I don't understand..why do you post here if you haven't played nor intend to??

I have played all the builds. I did try this build only to see nothing has changed or improved with the game mechanics.

This game had potential.

This game isn't going anywhere.

I have played all the builds. I did try this build only to see nothing has changed or improved with the game mechanics.

This game had potential.

This game isn't going anywhere.

Still here? Thought you were leaving

Well, what would you like to see change in the game mechanics? My only issue is the slow movement but I've never used speed modules or upgraded my mobility skills so I'm not sure yet. Cause other than the slow movement, I don't see a lot wrong.

Plenty of people have been asking for increased movement for what 3 builds now.

You don't have to believe me. Just wait for the next patchnotes. ccp doesn't give a **** about BF/CoD/mag fans. The only thing ccp cares about is catering to their precious evetard fanbase.

Plenty of people have been asking for increased movement for what 3 builds now.

You don't have to believe me. Just wait for the next patchnotes. ccp doesn't give a **** about BF/CoD/mag fans. The only thing ccp cares about is catering to their precious evetard fanbase.

CCP cares about CCP Fans - which apparently your not - so don't let the door hit you on the way out back to whoever makes the games you like.

That's why I'm asking you, specifically, what would you like to see?

Nope.

Not yet.

I really hate saying it, but there are a few good points here. CCP seems to forget that this is an FPS, and like it or not they have to make some changes. You'll see it all over the forums: nerfing strafe speed, low rewards per game, making distinct differences in weapons... they do tend to cater to EVE players whining and crying more than anything, but they must realize that when the game is released, not many EVE players will actually play DUST, so why are they catering to them?

I love the concept of dust, and the depth of it. I love the metagame and the perpetual chess match it represents. But to be completely honest, that is the ONLY reason i'm personally still here. The game aspect of dust is not very well designed or implemented right now, which is the whole point of the BETA, or at least what i thought the beta was about. I'm not going back to any other game just yet, but its hard to keep the hundreds of my other FPS clan members and friends who have certain basic expectations from doing just that.

What proof or source can you offer to back up any of those points?

Is there some poll i missed asking if i wanted speed nerfed or lower rewards? did said poll then break down those players into what game they identify with the most?

Seems to me and I can't sight a poll either, but the people against the strafe nerf are a very vocal minority who claim to speak for vast groups of players that don't appear to actually exist.

The part that sickens me the most is the eve playerbase is so eager for us to leave. They want this game to fail "go back to CoD' is going to be on dusts grave when it dies becuase thats what people are going to do. We are going to go back to CoD because the only mmofps on console is a steaming pile of crap.

Such a great concept. Its a tragedy really.

I really hate saying it, but there are a few good points here. CCP seems to forget that this is an FPS, and like it or not they have to make some changes. You'll see it all over the forums: nerfing strafe speed, low rewards per game, making distinct differences in weapons... they do tend to cater to EVE players whining and crying more than anything, but they must realize that when the game is released, not many EVE players will actually play DUST, so why are they catering to them?

I love the concept of dust, and the depth of it. I love the metagame and the perpetual chess match it represents. But to be completely honest, that is the ONLY reason i'm personally still here. The game aspect of dust is not very well designed or implemented right now, which is the whole point of the BETA, or at least what i thought the beta was about. I'm not going back to any other game just yet, but its hard to keep the hundreds of my other FPS clan members and friends who have certain basic expectations from doing just that.

Plenty of people have been asking for increased movement for what 3 builds now.

You don't have to believe me. Just wait for the next patchnotes. ccp doesn't give a **** about BF/CoD/mag fans. The only thing ccp cares about is catering to their precious evetard fanbase.

The part that sickens me the most is the eve playerbase is so eager for us to leave. They want this game to fail "go back to CoD' is going to be on dusts grave when it dies becuase thats what people are going to do. We are going to go back to CoD because the only mmofps on console is a steaming pile of crap.

Such a great concept. Its a tragedy really.

Game is slower and after i biatched about it a lot, it still feels good now that i've adapt. Now was it better when movements were faster ? Yes. Did it had another layer in individual skills ? Yes again. Does it need a massive boost to please almost everyone ? No.

Now to the OP. You criticize in a very NOT constructive way a build you admit yourself you played very little. See my point coming ? And refrain from using evetard or other insult that makes absolutely no sense. You clearly have no idea what EVErs are like. Also, trying to make us believe that everyone who disagree is an EVE player is ridiculous. Things arent that simple.

In conclusion, your thread is, pointless, insulting and unconstructive. In your own image i guess.....

Game is slower and after i biatched about it a lot, it still feels good now that i've adapt. Now was it better when movements were faster ? Yes. Did it had another layer in individual skills ? Yes again. Does it need a massive boost to please almost everyone ? No.

Now to the OP. You criticize in a very NOT constructive way a build you admit yourself you played very little. See my point coming ? And refrain from using evetard or other insult that makes absolutely no sense. You clearly have no idea what EVErs are like. Also, trying to make us believe that everyone who disagree is an EVE player is ridiculous. Things arent that simple.

In conclusion, your thread is, pointless, insulting and unconstructive. In your own image i guess.....

The constructive threads I have started in the past get trolled and ignored by ccp. There is no point. I am done helping someone who is not going to listen with the help of a very unwelcoming community. I am just gonna let ccp do their thing.

How do you know your posts have been ignored by CCP? Thay may well be working on what you want right now. Just because a CCP Dev doesn't come into your post and answer you(and all the other posts) personally does not mean the haven't read it - and I'm sure in some cases agreed and even added it to their todo list. Personally I'd rather have CCP staff working on making Dust better than coming into every forum post just to tell us they read it.

You should all stop with this fantasy about IRC..... I go in there a lot and you're all very mistaken about what happens there... Beside, it is not filled with EVE players only.

Now, i can't explain everything they do but let's face it. Most of you guys are, like me, bored by the less dynamic gameplay from the movement nerf..... And CCP said they're gonna explain to us the reason of this change in a forum post soon.

Why not just wait for that ?

And excuse me but is there any point in this type of flaming threads ? You dont like what is going on you're sure that everything you suggest is being ignored ? Then what good could possibly come out of being that agressive ?

"You dont know how to make FPS" "You listen EveTards only" . What does that bring to the table ? Nothing.

Now, codex is what ? in its 3rd week ? Devs have been away on holidays for a week, others a bit more ? What did you expect exactly ?

And saying the game is all wrong.... is all wrong. infantry weapon are pretty much balanced despise what people say about AR. HAVs i dont see much for the time being so i wont allow myself to judge for now. And boring ? sorry but no. Not as much run and gun as in precursor. ? yes.

I just hate this black\white reasonning 95% of people here have. "Oh it's brilliant. Oh it's crap".

The IRC is pure BS

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=284240#post284240

Proven in ther

Its biased and only used by ppl who want stuff for themselves and not for the good of the game

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You're all talking about stuff you know nothing about...... Ever been on IRC even for a day ? No. Then just shut the hell up.
Why do you insist on affirming things when you have NEVER been on IRC long enough to even have a decent idea of what goes on there ?

and you're the guys saying that this community sucks ? Do you realize how dumb you sound ?

This community is terrible. Its filled with a bunch of pseudointellectual douchbags that don't know **** about fps.

You're all talking about stuff you know nothing about...... Ever been on IRC even for a day ? No. Then just shut the hell up.
Why do you insist on affirming things when you have NEVER been on IRC long enough to even have a decent idea of what goes on there ?

and you're the guys saying that this community sucks ? Do you realize how dumb you sound ?

EDIT : and english, just read again the thread you just linked ? What does it proves apart from showing that you're agressing Iron Wolf when the guy tries to explain you how things goes in it and how it works. You obviously have problems.

Its an outside 3rd party app which had a mod that bans anyone does basically doesnt agree with them as proven in my thread

It has relegated the forum to 2nd best when this is the official forums setup by CCP for feedback from everyone who is in the beta

This community is terrible. Its filled with a bunch of pseudointellectual douchbags that don't know **** about fps.

Did he say anything about fps?
Also, I'm curious, what make you think that you'r expert in FPS? Have you developed several FPS games? Are you a pro games who have won some tournament?

The amount of failure on behalf of the OP in this thread makes me sad.

I mean really, if you're going to complain so much, and in such an inconsistent and stupid way, you really should just leave. We'd be happier without the crap you're giving us. What CCP DOES need is warm bodies playing the crap out of their beta. What they DO NOT need are threads like this one making useless statements that do nothing but clutter the forums and lead to Dev intervention. You really should be ashamed of yourself. You talk about liking the idea of this game, but what you are doing right now is working directly against its success. You will not make things better with threads like this. All I can imagine this does is make your epeen feel good, which is sad in and of itself.

I am NOT an "evetard" and I play lots of FPS games, and I say that the current Codex build is a huge step in the right direction. I strongly prefer the game now that the characters aren't running about like squirrels on caffeine. But I don't even need to talk about that, because as we can see in this thread both people who like and dislike Codex have come together to tell you that this thread is crap. If you're going to continue whining, please make good on your promise and go away. If not, I hope a Dev bans you.

The amount of failure on behalf of the OP in this thread makes me sad.

I mean really, if you're going to complain so much, and in such an inconsistent and stupid way, you really should just leave. We'd be happier without the crap you're giving us. What CCP DOES need is warm bodies playing the crap out of their beta. What they DO NOT need are threads like this one making useless statements that do nothing but clutter the forums and lead to Dev intervention. You really should be ashamed of yourself. You talk about liking the idea of this game, but what you are doing right now is working directly against its success. You will not make things better with threads like this. All I can imagine this does is make your epeen feel good, which is sad in and of itself.

I am NOT an "evetard" and I play lots of FPS games, and I say that the current Codex build is a huge step in the right direction. I strongly prefer the game now that the characters aren't running about like squirrels on caffeine. But I don't even need to talk about that, because as we can see in this thread both people who like and dislike Codex have come together to tell you that this thread is crap. If you're going to continue whining, please make good on your promise and go away. If not, I hope a Dev bans you.

Most people agree with me that ccp cares to much about the evetards. Sorry if you don't see it but some of us have been around since before the eve players got their scrubby hands on the beta and started crying nerf on everything that could move.

Game had potential.

ccp messed up by giving the beta codes out to eve players who had never played an fps before.

While I might be a negative nancy and a douchebag, I am right about them catering to the eve players first and then looking at what the console players want second. If you have half a brain and you have been reading the patchnotes you can see it bright as day.

Laurent, I think we're beyond being constructive. It really doesn't matter what we say/do. Who of last build balancing tanks/AV. Look at the % damage increase they've added or racial/marauder/turret skills. Remind me again why you need 55% extra damage on that large missile launcher? Or the railgun? Or a militia blaster tank?
CCP just don't know what they're doing. It feels like reading a story book written by a 3 year old. No plot. No reasoning. Things just get happen. The bottom line, I think we really need CCP to answer basic questions...
Which they don't. Except in IRC.
If you are wondering why the ps3 crowd feels that EvE players are catered for specifically, it's partly because of IRC. I've grid this build. It's just boring. I can't quantify boring, they haven't made a unit of measurement for boredom.

this is why i hate beta testing console games.

never see this stuff on pc betas.
not this level anyway.

Peace
B

Sorry PC master race. We'll just smile nod and agree...
You wonder why the console guys get so hacked off they call people EvEtards and such? This is why. Whole "it's be better on PC", "this never happens in PC betas" ect ect.

After a while you just end up thinking all EvE players / PC elite are dicks.

@IRC
More information has come from There than is in the Dev updates. So people who aren't in the IRC will have the perception that it's become the DEVs first port of call.
Regardless of what actually goes on there.