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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.17 12:27:00 -
[31] - Quote
Laurent, I think we're beyond being constructive. It really doesn't matter what we say/do. Who of last build balancing tanks/AV. Look at the % damage increase they've added or racial/marauder/turret skills. Remind me again why you need 55% extra damage on that large missile launcher? Or the railgun? Or a militia blaster tank? CCP just don't know what they're doing. It feels like reading a story book written by a 3 year old. No plot. No reasoning. Things just get happen. The bottom line, I think we really need CCP to answer basic questions... Which they don't. Except in IRC. If you are wondering why the ps3 crowd feels that EvE players are catered for specifically, it's partly because of IRC. I've grid this build. It's just boring. I can't quantify boring, they haven't made a unit of measurement for boredom.
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.17 12:38:00 -
[32] - Quote
I wont go on IRC. Why should I have the devs ear and eveyone else here gets the cold shoulder.
I'll stick with the underclass thankyouverymuchkthxbye.
My only hope atm is that CCP can see a very clear big picture and we are all just going to have to fight our way thu this mess to see the rainbow.
Its that or thery dont have a fracking clue |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.17 12:50:00 -
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You should all stop with this fantasy about IRC..... I go in there a lot and you're all very mistaken about what happens there... Beside, it is not filled with EVE players only. Devs show up for a few minutes and usually DONT say anything new. They can give pointers about date for hotfix, receive feedback on server's problem and then reboot the whole thing. For every suggestion, they ASK for a forum thread. Rest of the time, it's just common blatter on off-topic stuff. You're living in a total paranoia on this one...... Oh and btw, you should THANK some guys on IRC who take their OWN TIME to gather question here sometimes and bore devs to death for Q&A sessions.
But the whole, "oh they only listen IRC eve-tard" gnagnagna, feels like hearing 12 y-old kids whining about lil brother getting attention.
Now, i can't explain everything they do but let's face it. Most of you guys are, like me, bored by the less dynamic gameplay from the movement nerf..... And CCP said they're gonna explain to us the reason of this change in a forum post soon.
Why not just wait for that ?
And excuse me but is there any point in this type of flaming threads ? You dont like what is going on you're sure that everything you suggest is being ignored ? Then what good could possibly come out of being that agressive ?
"You dont know how to make FPS" "You listen EveTards only" . What does that bring to the table ? Nothing.
Now, codex is what ? in its 3rd week ? Devs have been away on holidays for a week, others a bit more ? What did you expect exactly ?
And saying the game is all wrong.... is all wrong. infantry weapon are pretty much balanced despise what people say about AR. HAVs i dont see much for the time being so i wont allow myself to judge for now. And boring ? sorry but no. Not as much run and gun as in precursor. ? yes.
I just hate this black\white reasonning 95% of people here have. "Oh it's brilliant. Oh it's crap". |
crouchwalking SCRUB
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2012.10.17 12:54:00 -
[34] - Quote
Laurent Cazaderon wrote:You should all stop with this fantasy about IRC..... I go in there a lot and you're all very mistaken about what happens there... Beside, it is not filled with EVE players only. Now, i can't explain everything they do but let's face it. Most of you guys are, like me, bored by the less dynamic gameplay from the movement nerf..... And CCP said they're gonna explain to us the reason of this change in a forum post soon. Why not just wait for that ? And excuse me but is there any point in this type of flaming threads ? You dont like what is going on you're sure that everything you suggest is being ignored ? Then what good could possibly come out of being that agressive ? "You dont know how to make FPS" "You listen EveTards only" . What does that bring to the table ? Nothing. Now, codex is what ? in its 3rd week ? Devs have been away on holidays for a week, others a bit more ? What did you expect exactly ? And saying the game is all wrong.... is all wrong. infantry weapon are pretty much balanced despise what people say about AR. HAVs i dont see much for the time being so i wont allow myself to judge for now. And boring ? sorry but no. Not as much run and gun as in precursor. ? yes. I just hate this black\white reasonning 95% of people here have. "Oh it's brilliant. Oh it's crap". That's because mmo aspects=brilliant. Gameplay=crap.
Most of us are tired of explaining ourselves. Its like beating a dead horse. If the game was moving forward in terms of game play I would be satisfied, but the game play is actually moving backwards. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.17 12:58:00 -
[35] - Quote
Except it's not. And MMO brilliant ? What exactly did you see as far as MMO stands for the moment ? Char customisation ? Skills ? Yeah welll. that doesnt make a MMO. I like it but it's far from brillant, i'm expecting a lot more than this and i'm very eager to know more about what will really be offered to dusters in this gigantic universe.
See, black and white... This is brilliant, this is crap.... Useless.
Edit : and btw, as a IRC guy. Rest assured i talked about movement nerf quite a lot. Bored everyone there as much as possible about if.
EDIT 2 : moving backward ? No. moving in a different direction that you dont like. Yes. Do i like it ? No. Do i think it's the good way ? No. Will i **** all over the game cause of it ? no. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:03:00 -
[36] - Quote
The IRC is pure BS
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=284240#post284240
Proven in ther
Its biased and only used by ppl who want stuff for themselves and not for the good of the game |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:04:00 -
[37] - Quote
+ 1 |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:07:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote: + 1
You're all talking about stuff you know nothing about...... Ever been on IRC even for a day ? No. Then just shut the hell up. Why do you insist on affirming things when you have NEVER been on IRC long enough to even have a decent idea of what goes on there ?
and you're the guys saying that this community sucks ? Do you realize how dumb you sound ?
EDIT : and english, just read again the thread you just linked ? What does it proves apart from showing that you're agressing Iron Wolf when the guy tries to explain you how things goes in it and how it works. You obviously have problems. |
crouchwalking SCRUB
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:12:00 -
[39] - Quote
Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote: + 1 You're all talking about stuff you know nothing about...... Ever been on IRC even for a day ? No. Then just shut the hell up. Why do you insist on affirming things when you have NEVER been on IRC long enough to even have a decent idea of what goes on there ? and you're the guys saying that this community sucks ? Do you realize how dumb you sound ? This community is terrible. Its filled with a bunch of pseudointellectual douchbags that don't know **** about fps. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:17:00 -
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crouchwalking SCRUB wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote: + 1 You're all talking about stuff you know nothing about...... Ever been on IRC even for a day ? No. Then just shut the hell up. Why do you insist on affirming things when you have NEVER been on IRC long enough to even have a decent idea of what goes on there ? and you're the guys saying that this community sucks ? Do you realize how dumb you sound ? This community is terrible. Its filled with a bunch of pseudointellectual douchbags that don't know **** about fps.
If that's pointed at me then you dont know me at all. Anyway..
So, what makes YOU such an expert, i'm eager to know. I guess you have tons of experience in FPS development do you ? Or maybe you are FPS Pgm ? Come on, shoot. |
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:18:00 -
[41] - Quote
Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote: + 1 You're all talking about stuff you know nothing about...... Ever been on IRC even for a day ? No. Then just shut the hell up. Why do you insist on affirming things when you have NEVER been on IRC long enough to even have a decent idea of what goes on there ? and you're the guys saying that this community sucks ? Do you realize how dumb you sound ? EDIT : and english, just read again the thread you just linked ? What does it proves apart from showing that you're agressing Iron Wolf when the guy tries to explain you how things goes in it and how it works. You obviously have problems.
Its an outside 3rd party app which had a mod that bans anyone does basically doesnt agree with them as proven in my thread
It has relegated the forum to 2nd best when this is the official forums setup by CCP for feedback from everyone who is in the beta |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:21:00 -
[42] - Quote
EnglishSnake wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote: + 1 You're all talking about stuff you know nothing about...... Ever been on IRC even for a day ? No. Then just shut the hell up. Why do you insist on affirming things when you have NEVER been on IRC long enough to even have a decent idea of what goes on there ? and you're the guys saying that this community sucks ? Do you realize how dumb you sound ? EDIT : and english, just read again the thread you just linked ? What does it proves apart from showing that you're agressing Iron Wolf when the guy tries to explain you how things goes in it and how it works. You obviously have problems. Its an outside 3rd party app which had a mod that bans anyone does basically doesnt agree with them as proven in my thread It has relegated the forum to 2nd best when this is the official forums setup by CCP for feedback from everyone who is in the beta
Would be curious to have the full story about that ban thing. I brawled more than once over various topics and disagreed with the OPs and i never got banned or kicked or anything. Even with devs present. Even against Devs. But obviously, if that banned guy started to go "yooou scrubs, you evetard know notin of FPS etc..." like a lot of you guys are so prompt on doing then ban was what he deserves.
And i only wished same moderation could be done on this forum. Would make things a lot more clear.
Once more, if you're capable to debate over the game and listen to what the guy who disagrees as to say, please do come on IRC. Dont have time to ait for devs ? doesnt matter. Discussions there led me more than once to create a feedback topic more complete than the original idea i had. I may seem mad but in the end i dont care. What i just dont accept is the way you see people who are nice, not at all selfish and tryin to make the game what THEY want, and quite fun. But you're too stubborn to get that.
Oh and, became second ? main informations, they just pop a forum link..... Again, dont talk about what you dont know. |
Umbat Boki
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
157
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:21:00 -
[43] - Quote
crouchwalking SCRUB wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote: + 1 You're all talking about stuff you know nothing about...... Ever been on IRC even for a day ? No. Then just shut the hell up. Why do you insist on affirming things when you have NEVER been on IRC long enough to even have a decent idea of what goes on there ? and you're the guys saying that this community sucks ? Do you realize how dumb you sound ? This community is terrible. Its filled with a bunch of pseudointellectual douchbags that don't know **** about fps.
Did he say anything about fps? Also, I'm curious, what make you think that you'r expert in FPS? Have you developed several FPS games? Are you a pro games who have won some tournament? |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:25:00 -
[44] - Quote
Hehehehe....hehehehehe..hehe
hehehe... |
crouchwalking SCRUB
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:36:00 -
[45] - Quote
Umbat Boki wrote:crouchwalking SCRUB wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote: + 1 You're all talking about stuff you know nothing about...... Ever been on IRC even for a day ? No. Then just shut the hell up. Why do you insist on affirming things when you have NEVER been on IRC long enough to even have a decent idea of what goes on there ? and you're the guys saying that this community sucks ? Do you realize how dumb you sound ? This community is terrible. Its filled with a bunch of pseudointellectual douchbags that don't know **** about fps. Did he say anything about fps? Also, I'm curious, what make you think that you'r expert in FPS? Have you developed several FPS games? Are you a pro games who have won some tournament? Half of the people on these forums are to busy spending all there time on eve to actually know what an fps is.
CoD is a fish right? |
Matobar
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
123
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:45:00 -
[46] - Quote
The amount of failure on behalf of the OP in this thread makes me sad.
I mean really, if you're going to complain so much, and in such an inconsistent and stupid way, you really should just leave. We'd be happier without the crap you're giving us. What CCP DOES need is warm bodies playing the crap out of their beta. What they DO NOT need are threads like this one making useless statements that do nothing but clutter the forums and lead to Dev intervention. You really should be ashamed of yourself. You talk about liking the idea of this game, but what you are doing right now is working directly against its success. You will not make things better with threads like this. All I can imagine this does is make your epeen feel good, which is sad in and of itself.
I am NOT an "evetard" and I play lots of FPS games, and I say that the current Codex build is a huge step in the right direction. I strongly prefer the game now that the characters aren't running about like squirrels on caffeine. But I don't even need to talk about that, because as we can see in this thread both people who like and dislike Codex have come together to tell you that this thread is crap. If you're going to continue whining, please make good on your promise and go away. If not, I hope a Dev bans you. |
Hawkeye Alpha
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
9
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:46:00 -
[47] - Quote
I realize that people are never going to be satisfied and that is the last thing we want. We will never progress forward, but there is a line between wanting to make the game better and just whining. We all have to understand the monumental task CCP has before them, making a FPS inside of an existing game being synced in real time, without crashing either of the games, to allow PC and console gamers to play together. I think strafe speed is the least of their worries right now, my guess is that they are working on the mechanical hassle and the miles of code they have to work with to make the games compatable. once that happens i'm sure they will start looking into the mediocre things.
I hope you guys realize that it takes time to make a game worth playing. For me the reason that this game is worth playing to me is that this is going to be a game that will be the building block for future gaming. I can't speak for you people, but i can stand a month or two of bad game mechanics and say i stuck through it to see it become what was visualized.
Hawkeye Alpha Signing In..... |
Hawkeye Alpha
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
9
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:49:00 -
[48] - Quote
Matobar wrote:The amount of failure on behalf of the OP in this thread makes me sad.
I mean really, if you're going to complain so much, and in such an inconsistent and stupid way, you really should just leave. We'd be happier without the crap you're giving us. What CCP DOES need is warm bodies playing the crap out of their beta. What they DO NOT need are threads like this one making useless statements that do nothing but clutter the forums and lead to Dev intervention. You really should be ashamed of yourself. You talk about liking the idea of this game, but what you are doing right now is working directly against its success. You will not make things better with threads like this. All I can imagine this does is make your epeen feel good, which is sad in and of itself.
I am NOT an "evetard" and I play lots of FPS games, and I say that the current Codex build is a huge step in the right direction. I strongly prefer the game now that the characters aren't running about like squirrels on caffeine. But I don't even need to talk about that, because as we can see in this thread both people who like and dislike Codex have come together to tell you that this thread is crap. If you're going to continue whining, please make good on your promise and go away. If not, I hope a Dev bans you.
1+ my thoughts almost exactly |
crouchwalking SCRUB
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:49:00 -
[49] - Quote
Matobar wrote:The amount of failure on behalf of the OP in this thread makes me sad.
I mean really, if you're going to complain so much, and in such an inconsistent and stupid way, you really should just leave. We'd be happier without the crap you're giving us. What CCP DOES need is warm bodies playing the crap out of their beta. What they DO NOT need are threads like this one making useless statements that do nothing but clutter the forums and lead to Dev intervention. You really should be ashamed of yourself. You talk about liking the idea of this game, but what you are doing right now is working directly against its success. You will not make things better with threads like this. All I can imagine this does is make your epeen feel good, which is sad in and of itself.
I am NOT an "evetard" and I play lots of FPS games, and I say that the current Codex build is a huge step in the right direction. I strongly prefer the game now that the characters aren't running about like squirrels on caffeine. But I don't even need to talk about that, because as we can see in this thread both people who like and dislike Codex have come together to tell you that this thread is crap. If you're going to continue whining, please make good on your promise and go away. If not, I hope a Dev bans you. Most people agree with me that ccp cares to much about the evetards. Sorry if you don't see it but some of us have been around since before the eve players got their scrubby hands on the beta and started crying nerf on everything that could move.
Game had potential.
ccp messed up by giving the beta codes out to eve players who had never played an fps before.
While I might be a negative nancy and a douchebag, I am right about them catering to the eve players first and then looking at what the console players want second. If you have half a brain and you have been reading the patchnotes you can see it bright as day. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:53:00 -
[50] - Quote
Some of us eve players been around since the beta started. Check your self, before the devs come round and drop the ban hammer on ya. |
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Matobar
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
123
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:54:00 -
[51] - Quote
crouchwalking SCRUB wrote:Matobar wrote:The amount of failure on behalf of the OP in this thread makes me sad.
I mean really, if you're going to complain so much, and in such an inconsistent and stupid way, you really should just leave. We'd be happier without the crap you're giving us. What CCP DOES need is warm bodies playing the crap out of their beta. What they DO NOT need are threads like this one making useless statements that do nothing but clutter the forums and lead to Dev intervention. You really should be ashamed of yourself. You talk about liking the idea of this game, but what you are doing right now is working directly against its success. You will not make things better with threads like this. All I can imagine this does is make your epeen feel good, which is sad in and of itself.
I am NOT an "evetard" and I play lots of FPS games, and I say that the current Codex build is a huge step in the right direction. I strongly prefer the game now that the characters aren't running about like squirrels on caffeine. But I don't even need to talk about that, because as we can see in this thread both people who like and dislike Codex have come together to tell you that this thread is crap. If you're going to continue whining, please make good on your promise and go away. If not, I hope a Dev bans you. Most people agree with me that ccp cares to much about the evetards. Sorry if you don't see it but some of us have been around since before the eve players got their scrubby hands on the beta and started crying nerf on everything that could move. Game had potential.
Ha.
Haha.
You're funny.
Who are these "most people" you're talking about? From what I can see, ~80% of the people who have posted in this thread have disagreed with you. And what is an "evetard" anyways? People who play EVE? Does that mean they can't be good FPS players as well? And you realize the hardcore FPS gamers all play on the PC, right? Your logic is just terrible. I mean, you throw around all these odd words that don't make sense, and then pretend you have all this popular support that doesn't actually exist, and then you say it gives you the right to make threads like this which are completely unproductive and just serve to upset and divide the fanbase while making CCP's job harder. |
Matobar
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
123
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:56:00 -
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crouchwalking SCRUB wrote:
ccp messed up by giving the beta codes out to eve players who had never played an fps before.
While I might be a negative nancy and a douchebag, I am right about them catering to the eve players first and then looking at what the console players want second. If you have half a brain and you have been reading the patchnotes you can see it bright as day.
So, which patch notes are these, exactly? All the patchnotes I see are the ones filled with gameplay fixes. Could you point out which set of notes proves that CCP doesn't care about the console gamers? And could you please tell me which players in the beta have never played an FPS before and are "evetards?" Because I'd really like to know. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.17 14:05:00 -
[53] - Quote
drop it guys. talking to a wall would be more pleasant and usefull. |
crouchwalking SCRUB
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2012.10.17 14:08:00 -
[54] - Quote
The funny thing about this thread its actually a little late. 25% of the player base has already left.
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Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2012.10.17 14:09:00 -
[55] - Quote
One of the things many Beta testers that I could generally call the FPS /console crowd wanted was for there to be really minimal difference between the starting gear and the prototype gear.
I don't play EVE, bu I was and am still completely opposed to this idea. I think it is short sighted, lacks vision, makes the game flat, boring, is not innovative and is just really a poor game decision for DUST 514. Really limits character progression and planning, strategy, counter strategy, etc.
The argument was made again and again that new players would be out gunned, rage quit, and the game would fail. I never bought in to that argument and still don't. I believe the solution is to offer incentives that will separate new players from vets geographically, and generally keep all but the most dedicated low life gankers and greifers out of the kiddie pool. But instead it looks like the game is being changed to give everyone a more equal fighting chance in the same shallow end of the pool.
There are already a huge number of FPS games where all the gear is essentially the same. Why make DUST 514 even more generic?
But there has been a general trend since I have been in beta to collapse the differences between various tiers of gear. Look at drop suit hit points, as one example. The cost both in SP and ISK to upgrade a dropsuit vs. the reward makes it seem almost pointless. At least to me. I like games where there is a gear progression such that you start with lowly items that are laughably weak and work your way up to really amazing gear that makes you feel like a god. I have loved that sort of progression through a game since playing Legend of Zelda as a kid at my relative's on vacation.
I feel like changes to gear have been gradually taking that fulfillment away.
I would much rather die six or nine times more often in battle (not that a prototype suit would help me to survive those deaths) and skill up in other areas than try to invest in a dropsuit. Or make a few different fittings that I can change out depending on the situation rather than take the one suit fits all path. If and when I reach a point where I need more CPU or PG I might have to go up.
On the other hand, I really do find moment to moment gameplay and character movement slow and clunky and not very satisfying.
So it cuts both ways. Everyone has seen some part of the game that they really liked get nerfed to hell. Not just the FPS aficionados. The real risk is that in trying to please everyone, DUST 514 pleases no one...
So, to the what I will call "FPS whiners" you have been getting your way. You have been getting your way all along and you haven't even bothered to stop throwing tantrums for five seconds to realize it. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.10.17 15:13:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Laurent, I think we're beyond being constructive. It really doesn't matter what we say/do. Who of last build balancing tanks/AV. Look at the % damage increase they've added or racial/marauder/turret skills. Remind me again why you need 55% extra damage on that large missile launcher? Or the railgun? Or a militia blaster tank? CCP just don't know what they're doing. It feels like reading a story book written by a 3 year old. No plot. No reasoning. Things just get happen. The bottom line, I think we really need CCP to answer basic questions... Which they don't. Except in IRC. If you are wondering why the ps3 crowd feels that EvE players are catered for specifically, it's partly because of IRC. I've grid this build. It's just boring. I can't quantify boring, they haven't made a unit of measurement for boredom.
Agree I've been saying for the four builds i've been here that the very forum ccp have put up for us to give feed back and our concerns is a barren waste land when it comes to dev input.
The irc is there I know but why should I have to use it when they have the forums to use, this is the poorest beta in regard to dev feed back and information I taken part in to date, i.ve been doing beta since the days of 250mhz pentiums and dial up modems.
Yes it is boring so much so that I spend more time on the forum than testing this build, it's like the game is in a vortex with no clear route of which way to go or what there overall goal is, if it's a fps it's not good enough and if it's an mmo it's not nearly good enough.
They need to focus on getting one thing right and ask us what is needed to do this otherwise we will be in the same position a year from now, not there bullish just change it and see how it works out attitude. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
169
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Posted - 2012.10.17 15:44:00 -
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This thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhZl73et6GE&feature=related |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
109
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Posted - 2012.10.17 16:10:00 -
[58] - Quote
this is why i hate beta testing console games.
never see this stuff on pc betas. not this level anyway.
Peace B |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.17 16:37:00 -
[59] - Quote
BASSMEANT wrote:this is why i hate beta testing console games.
never see this stuff on pc betas. not this level anyway.
Peace B
Sorry PC master race. We'll just smile nod and agree... You wonder why the console guys get so hacked off they call people EvEtards and such? This is why. Whole "it's be better on PC", "this never happens in PC betas" ect ect.
After a while you just end up thinking all EvE players / PC elite are dicks.
@IRC More information has come from There than is in the Dev updates. So people who aren't in the IRC will have the perception that it's become the DEVs first port of call. Regardless of what actually goes on there. |
Madeleine Kriziah
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.10.17 16:45:00 -
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CCP is out to get you and they love EVE players.
That is why they are making DUST 514 to tell people how much more they care about EVE.
EVERYBODY'S COMING TO GET ME!!
Btw I do not understand what an EVEtard is. And where are you getting all the facts from? About how most players this and that? Is there a Web site I do not know about? We are all doomed if there is a Web site that can read minds. |
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