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ALM1GHTY STATIUS
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:08:00 -
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so I was just informed that there's a skill point cap....
So right now, I can't even catch up to people simply because they played longer than me, even if I get more SP per game and time played. This is bull$hit CCP. Change your skill point system to how it works in EVE, thanks. |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:12:00 -
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I think the cap should be different for newer players so they are able to catch up and compete |
ALM1GHTY STATIUS
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:14:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:I think the cap should be different for newer players so they are able to catch up and compete
Oh I like this idea. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:14:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:I think the cap should be different for newer players so they are able to catch up and compete Yeah there needs to be a total player cap that moves up every month or week. The random that join in the game late should be able to grind as long as they want until they reach the max cap that the more veteran players are at. ccp has to give the new players a way to catch up to the no lifers. |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:18:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:I think the cap should be different for newer players so they are able to catch up and compete
I agree completely but ccp probably sees $ in people buying skill clusters and boosters to make up for their lack of SP...
They gotta make money but its getting more and more twisted all the time.....
Its play the game like a full time job, or pay to win or pay to catch up
Take your pick.
You know Black Ops 2 will be out soon, don't you?
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS
138
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:23:00 -
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Brahma El Indio wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:I think the cap should be different for newer players so they are able to catch up and compete I agree completely but ccp probably sees $ in people buying skill clusters and boosters to make up for their lack of SP... They gotta make money but its getting more and more twisted all the time..... Its play the game like a full time job, or pay to win or pay to catch up Take your pick. You know Black Ops 2 will be out soon, don't you?
all cod's are **** since mw2, Blops 2 will be the worst since mw2. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:27:00 -
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Did everyone take stupid pills this morning?
- The skill system has been adjusted to be more in line with EVE Online.
- The skill cap is in place to PREVENT the no-lifers from completely outstripping everyone else.
- You don't even need to play matches to receive passive skill points (1,000 of them every hour if I remember correctly).
- You don't need to "catch up" to the other players to be able to compete with them.
- ALM1GHTY STATIUS exists only to whine about things he doesn't like in the game.
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TheReaper852
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
62
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:28:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:I think the cap should be different for newer players so they are able to catch up and compete
I never thought of this but it's actually a great idea. CCP should take note of this idea. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:30:00 -
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Longshot Ravenwood wrote:
- ALM1GHTY STATIUS exists only to whine about things he doesn't like in the game.
Anyone that gives constructive criticism is whiner. I am so sick of the retards on this forum. |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:33:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Brahma El Indio wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:I think the cap should be different for newer players so they are able to catch up and compete I agree completely but ccp probably sees $ in people buying skill clusters and boosters to make up for their lack of SP... They gotta make money but its getting more and more twisted all the time..... Its play the game like a full time job, or pay to win or pay to catch up Take your pick. You know Black Ops 2 will be out soon, don't you? all cod's are **** since mw2, Blops 2 will be the worst since mw2.
Dear Mr almighty the statement was sarcastic, implying that most if not all fps on console are rubbish right now...lol...the point being you can grind dust, or pay to increase SP returns in a game where the concept is great but the execution ordinary, or pay to buy a game where the concept is dated and repeated, but the execution is slick and polished....
Either way, its bad....
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gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:33:00 -
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The cap is a waste of time, They just need too group people in games by skills. Players with 20 mil sp shouldnt play noobs with 5 mil |
ALM1GHTY STATIUS
138
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:36:00 -
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Longshot Ravenwood wrote: Did everyone take stupid pills this morning?
- The skill system has been adjusted to be more in line with EVE Online.
- The skill cap is in place to PREVENT the no-lifers from completely outstripping everyone else.
- You don't even need to play matches to receive passive skill points (1,000 of them every hour if I remember correctly).
- You don't need to "catch up" to the other players to be able to compete with them.
- ALM1GHTY STATIUS exists only to whine about things he doesn't like in the game.
1. Not enough, just because I haven't been playing up to this point I am now at a PERMANENT disadvantage, and will be in farther in a disadvantage the LESS I play. 2. Refer to number one. 3. oh boy 1k an hour! that'll get my 2m skills in no time!!!! 4. yeah but now I can never ever be as upgraded as them. 5. Yeah I'm the worst person in the world for trying to create competition, shoot me on sight. |
ALM1GHTY STATIUS
138
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:37:00 -
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Brahma El Indio wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Brahma El Indio wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:I think the cap should be different for newer players so they are able to catch up and compete I agree completely but ccp probably sees $ in people buying skill clusters and boosters to make up for their lack of SP... They gotta make money but its getting more and more twisted all the time..... Its play the game like a full time job, or pay to win or pay to catch up Take your pick. You know Black Ops 2 will be out soon, don't you? all cod's are **** since mw2, Blops 2 will be the worst since mw2. Dear Mr almighty the statement was sarcastic, implying that most if not all fps on console are rubbish right now...lol...the point being you can grind dust, or pay to increase SP returns in a game where the concept is great but the execution ordinary, or pay to buy a game where the concept is dated and repeated, but the execution is slick and polished.... Either way, its bad....
Halo 4, who wants to donate towards my xbox? |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:38:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:so I was just informed that there's a skill point cap....
So right now, I can't even catch up to people simply because they played longer than me, even if I get more SP per game and time played. This is bull$hit CCP. Change your skill point system to how it works in EVE, thanks.
if they change it to how it works in EVE u still wont catch up....because thats how its done in EVE lol day 1 ppl will have more SPs than day 30 ppl in EVE |
ALM1GHTY STATIUS
138
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:39:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:so I was just informed that there's a skill point cap....
So right now, I can't even catch up to people simply because they played longer than me, even if I get more SP per game and time played. This is bull$hit CCP. Change your skill point system to how it works in EVE, thanks. if they change it to how it works in EVE u still wont catch up....because thats how its done in EVE lol day 1 ppl will have more SPs than day 30 ppl in EVE
yeah but I won't fall behind for not playing. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:42:00 -
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"I am hilarious and you will qoute everything I say." - Ghost Nappa
Still on that same note -- BROOKYN RAGE!!!
I honestly agree though. The skill point cap is annoying, and unwarranted. I understand what they were trying to do for this build with it, but at the same time the only thing it has proven is that the people (that's us the players/Dusters) want it removed. More to the point removed as soon as possible. |
ReGnUM STBslayer DEI
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
158
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:42:00 -
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Brahma El Indio wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Brahma El Indio wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:I think the cap should be different for newer players so they are able to catch up and compete I agree completely but ccp probably sees $ in people buying skill clusters and boosters to make up for their lack of SP... They gotta make money but its getting more and more twisted all the time..... Its play the game like a full time job, or pay to win or pay to catch up Take your pick. You know Black Ops 2 will be out soon, don't you? all cod's are **** since mw2, Blops 2 will be the worst since mw2. Dear Mr almighty the statement was sarcastic, implying that most if not all fps on console are rubbish right now...lol...the point being you can grind dust, or pay to increase SP returns in a game where the concept is great but the execution ordinary, or pay to buy a game where the concept is dated and repeated, but the execution is slick and polished.... Either way, its bad....
Have you ever played a game of DUST. At least these so-called "rubbish games" can master simple game mechanics like: Hit-Detection and Frame Rate. You really want to know whats rububish really is? Its having a beautiful concept like DUST, getting ruined by Devs that do not have the slightest idea how to make a FPS.
FYI your just a delusional fan-boy
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS
138
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:44:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:
"I am hilarious and you will qoute everything I say." - Ghost Nappa
Still on that same note -- BROOKYN RAGE!!!
I honestly agree though. The skill point cap is annoying, and unwarranted. I understand what they were trying to do for this build with it, but at the same time the only thing it has proven is that the people (that's us the players/Dusters) want it removed. More to the point removed as soon as possible.
s-s-s-so you think I'm funny? good, I'm glad you do.
let's start a petition tbqh. |
ReGnUM STBslayer DEI
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
158
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:46:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:
"I am hilarious and you will qoute everything I say." - Ghost Nappa
Still on that same note -- BROOKYN RAGE!!!
I honestly agree though. The skill point cap is annoying, and unwarranted. I understand what they were trying to do for this build with it, but at the same time the only thing it has proven is that the people (that's us the players/Dusters) want it removed. More to the point removed as soon as possible.
s-s-s-so you think I'm funny? good, I'm glad you do. let's start a petition tbqh.
Almighty buy xbox and H4 and lets GTFO B4 this game really hits rock bottom... ie next build |
ALM1GHTY STATIUS
138
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:47:00 -
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ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:
"I am hilarious and you will qoute everything I say." - Ghost Nappa
Still on that same note -- BROOKYN RAGE!!!
I honestly agree though. The skill point cap is annoying, and unwarranted. I understand what they were trying to do for this build with it, but at the same time the only thing it has proven is that the people (that's us the players/Dusters) want it removed. More to the point removed as soon as possible.
s-s-s-so you think I'm funny? good, I'm glad you do. let's start a petition tbqh. Almighty buy xbox and H4 and lets GTFO B4 this game really hits rock bottom... ie next build
you got a job and I don't so gimee your money |
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Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:49:00 -
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ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Brahma El Indio wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Brahma El Indio wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:I think the cap should be different for newer players so they are able to catch up and compete I agree completely but ccp probably sees $ in people buying skill clusters and boosters to make up for their lack of SP... They gotta make money but its getting more and more twisted all the time..... Its play the game like a full time job, or pay to win or pay to catch up Take your pick. You know Black Ops 2 will be out soon, don't you? all cod's are **** since mw2, Blops 2 will be the worst since mw2. Dear Mr almighty the statement was sarcastic, implying that most if not all fps on console are rubbish right now...lol...the point being you can grind dust, or pay to increase SP returns in a game where the concept is great but the execution ordinary, or pay to buy a game where the concept is dated and repeated, but the execution is slick and polished.... Either way, its bad.... Have you ever played a game of DUST. At least these so-called "rubbish games" can master simple game mechanics like: Hit-Detection and Frame Rate. You really want to know whats rububish really is? Its having a beautiful concept like DUST, getting ruined by Devs that do not have the slightest idea how to make a FPS. FYI your just a delusional fan-boy
Sarcasm?
Me a fan boy? Not sure if serious.
Re-Read what I wrote, its basically what you said.
Dust has a great concept but the execution is poor, the other fps are the same old fps concepts but they are executed professionally, so things like hit detection or frame rate, are not issues....
I play dust but it gets so boring playing in 1v1 or 1v2 matches on huge maps, so I stop after maybe two games and then go back to either Planetside2 beta, or MAG if I am feeling nostalgic.....
Understand now? |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:52:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Brahma El Indio wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Brahma El Indio wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:I think the cap should be different for newer players so they are able to catch up and compete I agree completely but ccp probably sees $ in people buying skill clusters and boosters to make up for their lack of SP... They gotta make money but its getting more and more twisted all the time..... Its play the game like a full time job, or pay to win or pay to catch up Take your pick. You know Black Ops 2 will be out soon, don't you? all cod's are **** since mw2, Blops 2 will be the worst since mw2. Dear Mr almighty the statement was sarcastic, implying that most if not all fps on console are rubbish right now...lol...the point being you can grind dust, or pay to increase SP returns in a game where the concept is great but the execution ordinary, or pay to buy a game where the concept is dated and repeated, but the execution is slick and polished.... Either way, its bad.... Halo 4, who wants to donate towards my xbox?
Kickstarter project? I'll pledge fifty bucks if you can get it past their censor and listed...
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xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:52:00 -
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everybody honestly needs to stop playing and boycott the game until they fix the fundamentals. |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:53:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:everybody honestly needs to stop playing and boycott the game until they fix the fundamentals.
Don't agree with you often, but sometimes....... |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:00:00 -
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Brahma El Indio wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:everybody honestly needs to stop playing and boycott the game until they fix the fundamentals. Don't agree with you often, but sometimes.......
Actually when I think about it, the numbers on the Asia server are so low, maybe people have boycotted already... |
Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:35:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:I think the cap should be different for newer players so they are able to catch up and compete Yeah there needs to be a total player cap that moves up every month or week. The random that join in the game late should be able to grind as long as they want until they reach the max cap that the more veteran players are at. ccp has to give the new players a way to catch up to the no lifers.
This is almost exactly what I was thinking too. Lets say the cap each week is 900k cap, so week 1 would have 900k maximum. Week 2 would have a 1.8M maximum. Week 3 would have 2.4M maximum, etc etc. All these are grand totals, so everybody would have an equal chance to reach the same SP limit if they felt the urge to grind.
Another example is say I only got 400k in my first week, that would mean I could potentially earn 1.4M the next week (500k left over from previous week plus the new weekly 900k cap). The key here is that if somebody were to reach the cap 100% each week, their total SP could still be achieved/caught up if a player wanted to grind like crazy.
As it is now, if I miss a week, or don't reach the max cap, I am permanently behind and will never catch up to those who keep playing and consistently reach the cap each week. This is a pretty big problem I think. |
gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:54:00 -
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a cap rollover like cellphone minutes, If I dont get all the cap the remainder rolls over. If I miss playing a week the cap rolls over.
If you start a month behind you have a month worth of cap built |
Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.10.15 06:09:00 -
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gangsta nachos wrote:a cap rollover like cellphone minutes, If I dont get all the cap the remainder rolls over. If I miss playing a week the cap rolls over.
If you start a month behind you have a month worth of cap built
Yes, exactly!
SP rollover!! I knew there was an easier way to explain my idea. |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.10.15 06:14:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:a cap rollover like cellphone minutes, If I dont get all the cap the remainder rolls over. If I miss playing a week the cap rolls over.
If you start a month behind you have a month worth of cap built Yes, exactly! SP rollover!! I knew there was an easier way to explain my idea.
Come on down James Brown. |
Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.10.15 06:29:00 -
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I posted a thread in the feedback/request section about the SP rollover. I think it is a brilliant idea and hope the devs do too. |
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Andius Fidelitas
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.10.15 06:44:00 -
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I vote yes on this! |
Salazar Skye-fire
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
85
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Posted - 2012.10.15 06:48:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:so I was just informed that there's a skill point cap....
So right now, I can't even catch up to people simply because they played longer than me, even if I get more SP per game and time played. This is bull$hit CCP. Change your skill point system to how it works in EVE, thanks.
nub needs good gear to get his kills, go back to playing whatever ****** game you were playing nobody wants to see your tears. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.15 08:13:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:I think the cap should be different for newer players so they are able to catch up and compete
There is something you people seem to be forgetting quite fast... You're all seeing this short term : "oh god started two weeks late, i'll never be able to catch those people" .
But after 2-3 month worth of play, does it matter ? Also, if you're hardcore, won't you catch up 80% of the people who never reach cap every week ? Two weeks ? That's what 1 Million SP or less for most people in a game where characters will reach hundred million SP ?
Even in the case of a player starting 9 month later. When this dude will have a month and half of SP earned through battle he'll play with players of the same level, this guy will be as specialised and efficient in a specific role as anyone who started 9 month ago.
The way you're thinking this FPS is wronged by all the previous FPS experience you have regarding char progression where it was a matter of days\weeks where we're now in a game that matter over month\years.
The real problem at the moment is the diminishing returns that strikes too soon for hardcores and, imo, rewards casual too much. I'd rather see a week SP cap (like say 500K without booster a week) AND a per game CAP ( say 4000-5000 for a good game, those numbers are completely random and not thought).
This way, hardcores would complete the cap almost every week and feel rewarded compared to casuals who would reach 60-70 % of it. And it would avoid hardcores to earn NOTHING after just a few days.
My 2 ISK. |
Timothy Reaper
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
321
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Posted - 2012.10.15 08:30:00 -
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How well you play is determined by skill, and not the kind measured with points. Example:
During the last build someone put all the skill points he earned into getting the prototype heavy suit and a heavy weapon early in the build. He later posted on the forum that militia equipment was too powerful because they kept taking out his prototype suit.
Devoting all of your time to a game doesn't automatically make you an expert player, it's just means you have no life. |
Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
318
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Posted - 2012.10.15 08:45:00 -
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I dont understand where all the "I want something for nothing" attitude comes from, why should some one who plays once a week get the same SP as some one who plays 24/7??
If you want some thing you have to put the time in. Its the same for EVERY game. Like Laurent Cazaderon said after 2-3 months it wont matter.
You dont need the best equipment to kill people just follow a no lifer around and steal his kills :P
less QQ more pewpew |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.15 09:07:00 -
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Sir Meode wrote:I dont understand where all the "I want something for nothing" attitude comes from, why should some one who plays once a week get the same SP as some one who plays 24/7??
If you want some thing you have to put the time in. Its the same for EVERY game. Like Laurent Cazaderon said after 2-3 months it wont matter.
You dont need the best equipment to kill people just follow a no lifer around and steal his kills :P
less QQ more pewpew
Thus me suggesting : Keep the cap as it is. Make reaching the cap longer by "killing" the diminishing return.
Effect : Still prevent a massive grinding from hardcores. Still reward hardcores for playing more than casuals week after week.
Start 3 month later ? : well deal with it dude and play logi ammo biatch or scout drop uplink biatch until you can get in a big fight after a good month of skilling |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.10.15 09:07:00 -
[37] - Quote
ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:so I was just informed that there's a skill point cap....
So right now, I can't even catch up to people simply because they played longer than me, even if I get more SP per game and time played. This is bull$hit CCP. Change your skill point system to how it works in EVE, thanks. if they change it to how it works in EVE u still wont catch up....because thats how its done in EVE lol day 1 ppl will have more SPs than day 30 ppl in EVE yeah but I won't fall behind for not playing.
yea but that is worse cuz new ppl wont ever catch up no matter if they play or not |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
15
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Posted - 2012.10.15 09:13:00 -
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The SP cap is good and it should be completely passive. Yes I should have more SP because I started before you. No you shouldn't be able to catch up. Threads like this is why the game is going down. You all cry because you can't max everything out in one month. This game is about playing not leveling, proto gear is not much better, if you are good then you have no worries. My gun game sucks, no amount of SP or high powered weapon is going to change that. STOP CRYING. What are you going to do when you max everything? That's right you and will stop playing just like every other fps out there. If cry babies don't completely ruin the game then it should last for years not months. But, like with most things, the game will be washed out and full whiners who want everything on the first day. Go play COD and do the same thing with the same guns on the same maps for the next year until the next COD comes out with the same guns, maps, and boring story. Then do it next year and keep doing it till you have proven to all of us that you are sheep. There is no need yo reply to this post because I don't care and I won't read it again. Stop crying and play the game like it is supposed to be played or go away. |
Gawdbotherer
Doomheim
6
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Posted - 2012.10.15 12:25:00 -
[39] - Quote
Theres a strangly simple soultion to this, Hit the SP cap on one character? Why not just jump on another and hit the cap with that character? Im no where near hitting the cap on my second and they both have boosters.
If your hitting the Cap with three characters then im affraid you should be getting more sun. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
169
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Posted - 2012.10.15 12:40:00 -
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Gawdbotherer wrote:Theres a strangly simple soultion to this, Hit the SP cap on one character? Why not just jump on another and hit the cap with that character? Im no where near hitting the cap on my second and they both have boosters.
If your hitting the Cap with three characters then im affraid you should be getting more sun.
Because I don't have Merc Pack on my second or third characters, not buying any more. Boosters are now useless with SP cap being reached within 2-3 days. |
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Badly Owned
xOne Man Armyx
49
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Posted - 2012.10.15 14:09:00 -
[41] - Quote
previous sp tweek ideas
meh they should just remove the diminishing returns let me hit cap as fast as i can then farm isk. if i don't need isk then let me go play another game or get some sun, not play 30 more games till i hit 0 just to squeeze everthing out of it. |
Corban Lahnder
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2012.10.15 14:14:00 -
[42] - Quote
ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:so I was just informed that there's a skill point cap....
So right now, I can't even catch up to people simply because they played longer than me, even if I get more SP per game and time played. This is bull$hit CCP. Change your skill point system to how it works in EVE, thanks.
Yet another problem with the sp cap Idea. If you cant get in the time you cant catch up. The thing designed to hold back power leveling people ends up hurting new players attempting to catch up far more then the power levelers.
CCP take note. |
mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
425
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Posted - 2012.10.15 15:16:00 -
[43] - Quote
Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Sir Meode wrote:I dont understand where all the "I want something for nothing" attitude comes from, why should some one who plays once a week get the same SP as some one who plays 24/7??
If you want some thing you have to put the time in. Its the same for EVERY game. Like Laurent Cazaderon said after 2-3 months it wont matter.
You dont need the best equipment to kill people just follow a no lifer around and steal his kills :P
less QQ more pewpew Thus me suggesting : Keep the cap as it is. Make reaching the cap longer by "killing" the diminishing return. Effect : Still prevent a massive grinding from hardcores. Still reward hardcores for playing more than casuals week after week. Start 3 month later ? : well deal with it dude and play logi ammo biatch or scout drop uplink biatch until you can get in a big fight after a good month of skilling
I have to say, proto and others have a point. Something needs to be done, to allow newbies 6months after launch, the OPPORTUNITY to catch up. Maybe a roll over of SP cap would work, but I like your idea better Laurent.
Instead of the SP decay going down to basically zero, why not limit the SP decay to no less than 25% of what you'd earn.
Right now, say you earn 10000 SP in a match, eventually you'll earn 0 (or close to it) once you hit the cap. Maybe adjust the decay, so that once you hit the cap, you're still earning 2500 SP. It makes ppl feel like they're accomplishing something, but also gives new guys an opportunity to "no-life" the game and close the SP gap with the vets. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.15 15:37:00 -
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CCP cant win
If ther is no cap no lifers get well ahead and never will be caught up, new guys are ******
If ther is a cap no lifers hit it and then complain that they cant earn anymore and stop playing after until it resets, they dont take into account that alot is missing and they should stick on for organized battles etc, casual players dont mind they at least get to stick close enough to the no lifers and the gap wont be stupidly big unless they start 9months away
If diminihsing returns is in it annoys ppl because they playing for next to no SP
If its EVE style then a new player is new and wont catch up to the 9months old player but can specialize at least
Possible only way is that you have EVE style with an active SP gain for matches, so just say Weapon V takes 4days to train passivly and if you play a match and do well enough it will say knock off an hour off of the time it takes to train it
Either way CCP are ****** right now |
mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.10.16 00:25:00 -
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I commend their effort, but I think it doesn't accurately address the problem. It addresses the problem of "no-lifers" vs ppl who maybe play 3-4x a week for 2 hours a pop.
HOWEVER, it arguably hurts new guys, who are trying the game for the first time... 6 months after release.
I think limiting the SP decay, is a decent compromise to both. |
h3lenK3ller
Doomheim
13
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Posted - 2012.10.19 05:50:00 -
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I think that if a player spends the time, and dedicates his/her free time to earning SP and etc. they should always have an advantage on a noob or someone just starting the game. Take Call of Duty in example, someone can just pick up the game and dominate. Sure it might take a couple months to get use to the mechanics of the game, but once you got it, you got it. At least in this game a player can dominate in set skills and time spent. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.10.19 06:06:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:so I was just informed that there's a skill point cap....
So right now, I can't even catch up to people simply because they played longer than me, even if I get more SP per game and time played. This is bull$hit CCP. Change your skill point system to how it works in EVE, thanks. if they change it to how it works in EVE u still wont catch up....because thats how its done in EVE lol day 1 ppl will have more SPs than day 30 ppl in EVE
Yea...I was thinking the same thing when I read the OP lol. In EVE, it's all about how long you've been subscribed and training skills. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
285
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Posted - 2012.10.23 05:38:00 -
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An all-time cap that gradually increases is the best solution I can think of. Day1 players will always have an advantage thanks to passive sp, but new players won't have to be stricken with a permanent gulf in skills. Right now I struggle to keep my AV build competitive against well made gunlogis. Who's gonna want to spend weeks getting terrorised by prototype tanks before the sp they put into forge guns can actually pay dividends? All because they joined a month late. If they aren't as restricted by diminishing returns, those 100s of 1000s of sp won't seem like Everest to a new player, and dust might just seem worth playing. |
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