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Ops Fox
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.14 05:03:00 -
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isnGÇÖt there some kind of Geneva convention about not using Av weapons on infantry? I was shooting some dudes running around when all of a sudden I find a heavy and I unload a clip into him with my assault then change to my sub and finish him off with that the whole time the grounds exploding and I never think anything of it thing heGÇÖs wasting forge blast like with a swarm.
I meet the same guy a few moments later and this time I donGÇÖt have conveniently place boxes to absorb the blast and the whole time I think heGÇÖs not heGÇÖs not oh god what do I do, it was a deer in the headlights moment for me as he blew me away with a forge I was pissed and for good reason what kinda noob uses a AV weapon to kill infantry?
But down to the point what should I do we they are using a forge? |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2242
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Posted - 2012.10.14 05:14:00 -
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Don't shoot at heavies. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.10.14 05:14:00 -
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Geneva convention? Tell that to terrorists using rps on infantry and innocent people |
Azold N'Kar
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Posted - 2012.10.14 05:17:00 -
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The only convention is that you must complete your contract at all costs! |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.10.14 05:18:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:what kinda noob uses a AV weapon to kill infantry?
YOLO |
Mindbender Steve
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.10.14 05:21:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:But down to the point what should I do we they are using a forge?
Shoot them. If you're feeling particularly adventurous, do so multiple times. |
Ignatius Crumwald
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
475
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Posted - 2012.10.14 05:22:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:
But down to the point what should I do we they are using a forge?
Well, you used to be able to get in close and circle strafe them so they'd have to swap to an smg or pistol. If they didn't it was usually one of the easiest kills in the game, but now I guess you just get in close and circle shimmy - not sure if that's effective... |
Ops Fox
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
197
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Posted - 2012.10.14 05:31:00 -
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why does a forge have more splash than railgun on tanks or instalation was the some inconsistesy know body in deveploment noticed...
@ yolo guy i dont know about you but i lived a couple times over once being an imortal infantry and all |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.14 05:33:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:I meet the same guy a few moments later and this time I donGÇÖt have conveniently place boxes to absorb the blast and the whole time I think heGÇÖs not heGÇÖs not oh god what do I do, it was a deer in the headlights moment for me as he blew me away with a forge I was pissed and for good reason what kinda noob uses a AV weapon to kill infantry?
A heavy with a Forge gun is primarily AV, it may be the only weapon he has available to him, should he be defenceless when running around in expensive AV gear?
As you saw in your first engagement, the Forge is a precision tool, you either hit, or you miss entirely, there is no splash to talk about.
If you can't take being shot at, go play Farmville. |
Azold N'Kar
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Posted - 2012.10.14 05:37:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Ops Fox wrote:I meet the same guy a few moments later and this time I donGÇÖt have conveniently place boxes to absorb the blast and the whole time I think heGÇÖs not heGÇÖs not oh god what do I do, it was a deer in the headlights moment for me as he blew me away with a forge I was pissed and for good reason what kinda noob uses a AV weapon to kill infantry?
A heavy with a Forge gun is, it may be the only weapon he has available to him, should he be defenceless when running around in expensive AV gear? As you saw in your first engagement, the Forge is a precision tool, you either hit, or you miss entirely, there is no splash to talk about. If you can't take being shot at, go play Farmville.
Forge guns aren't actually that easy to hit with. So if you put yourself in a position to be hit, then you are doing something wrong.
P.S. If you need real life examples, there are plenty where anti-tank weapons have been used on infantry. Its not some bizzare fantasy world thing that is happening here. Probably the only thing out of whack is friendly fire isn't turned on, yet. |
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Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.14 06:44:00 -
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Azold N'Kar wrote:P.S. If you need real life examples, there are plenty where anti-tank weapons have been used on infantry. Its not some bizzare fantasy world thing that is happening here. Probably the only thing out of whack is friendly fire isn't turned on, yet.
Anything that can kill a tank, can kill infantry. It may be overkill to do so, and aiming may be a problem, but I agree, an armour piercing round from a tank can kill a bunch of infantry quite easily. It it hits. |
Kleanur Guy
SyNergy Gaming
154
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Posted - 2012.10.14 06:46:00 -
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Mindbender Steve wrote:Ops Fox wrote:But down to the point what should I do we they are using a forge? Shoot them. If you're feeling particularly adventurous, do so multiple times.
lol +1. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.10.14 06:53:00 -
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Forge guns are slow to charge, and pretty obvious when charging. Just get out of the way, if they can manage to kill you with that weapon, then they deserve the kill. If you get killed by such a weapon, you deserved to be killed. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.14 07:03:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Forge guns are slow to charge, and pretty obvious when charging. Just get out of the way, if they can manage to kill you with that weapon, then they deserve the kill. If you get killed by such a weapon, you deserved to be killed.
Though it is a little annoying when sitting there, happily sniping, then you hear that wind up. It does take a few seconds to realize that it is coming from right behind you.
It sucks. |
Supercakers
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.10.14 07:33:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Azold N'Kar wrote:P.S. If you need real life examples, there are plenty where anti-tank weapons have been used on infantry. Its not some bizzare fantasy world thing that is happening here. Probably the only thing out of whack is friendly fire isn't turned on, yet. Anything that can kill a tank, can kill infantry. It may be overkill to do so, and aiming may be a problem, but I agree, an armour piercing round from a tank can kill a bunch of infantry quite easily. It it hits.
I don't think you can kill infantry with swarm launchers, they do minimal damage and the individual missiles spread all to hell. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.14 07:53:00 -
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Supercakers wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:Azold N'Kar wrote:P.S. If you need real life examples, there are plenty where anti-tank weapons have been used on infantry. Its not some bizzare fantasy world thing that is happening here. Probably the only thing out of whack is friendly fire isn't turned on, yet. Anything that can kill a tank, can kill infantry. It may be overkill to do so, and aiming may be a problem, but I agree, an armour piercing round from a tank can kill a bunch of infantry quite easily. It it hits. I don't think you can kill infantry with swarm launchers, they do minimal damage and the individual missiles spread all to hell.
Not any longer. They made the SL lock to fire only.
I was thinking in more general terms of power. And I think it should. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2012.10.14 08:12:00 -
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50 calibur rifles is considered an anti-equipment weapon.
Uniforms are considered equipment.
This is legal. |
Kaeralli Sturmovos
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
117
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Posted - 2012.10.14 12:18:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:
But down to the point what should I do we they are using a forge?
ya run around or flank him up front you get destroyed, but if you fear him you havnt seen nothing yet my forge puts in work before kiddies thought it was cool.  |
Wee Rick
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.10.14 13:32:00 -
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QQ'ing to a forum about getting killed in a FPS game? dammnn... put the controller down son.
I'm pretty sure that if a Forge can rip apart a tank, then it can melt a merc? Sounds logical to me. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:08:00 -
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Supercakers wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:Azold N'Kar wrote:P.S. If you need real life examples, there are plenty where anti-tank weapons have been used on infantry. Its not some bizzare fantasy world thing that is happening here. Probably the only thing out of whack is friendly fire isn't turned on, yet. Anything that can kill a tank, can kill infantry. It may be overkill to do so, and aiming may be a problem, but I agree, an armour piercing round from a tank can kill a bunch of infantry quite easily. It it hits. I don't think you can kill infantry with swarm launchers, they do minimal damage and the individual missiles spread all to hell.
Don't wish for things you won't like.... |
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droidb0ne
BetaMax.
12
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:49:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:isnGÇÖt there some kind of Geneva convention about not using Av weapons on infantry? I was shooting some dudes running around when all of a sudden I find a heavy and I unload a clip into him with my assault then change to my sub and finish him off with that the whole time the grounds exploding and I never think anything of it thing heGÇÖs wasting forge blast like with a swarm.
I meet the same guy a few moments later and this time I donGÇÖt have conveniently place boxes to absorb the blast and the whole time I think heGÇÖs not heGÇÖs not oh god what do I do, it was a deer in the headlights moment for me as he blew me away with a forge I was pissed and for good reason what kinda noob uses a AV weapon to kill infantry?
But down to the point what should I do we they are using a forge?
Ohh. Did my forge gun sting ya. |
SuperSaiyan4 Gogeta
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:50:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:isnGÇÖt there some kind of Geneva convention about not using Av weapons on infantry? I was shooting some dudes running around when all of a sudden I find a heavy and I unload a clip into him with my assault then change to my sub and finish him off with that the whole time the grounds exploding and I never think anything of it thing heGÇÖs wasting forge blast like with a swarm.
I meet the same guy a few moments later and this time I donGÇÖt have conveniently place boxes to absorb the blast and the whole time I think heGÇÖs not heGÇÖs not oh god what do I do, it was a deer in the headlights moment for me as he blew me away with a forge I was pissed and for good reason what kinda noob uses a AV weapon to kill infantry?
But down to the point what should I do we they are using a forge?
I have encountered the same problem, and trust me on this, either A) Get ur friends and bank the heavy OR B) Get a Heavy type II and thrash his life with none other than: THE MINIGUN!!!! |
Tyrus Four
128
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Posted - 2012.10.14 20:25:00 -
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Supercakers wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:Azold N'Kar wrote:P.S. If you need real life examples, there are plenty where anti-tank weapons have been used on infantry. Its not some bizzare fantasy world thing that is happening here. Probably the only thing out of whack is friendly fire isn't turned on, yet. Anything that can kill a tank, can kill infantry. It may be overkill to do so, and aiming may be a problem, but I agree, an armour piercing round from a tank can kill a bunch of infantry quite easily. It it hits. I don't think you can kill infantry with swarm launchers, they do minimal damage and the individual missiles spread all to hell.
you can't even SHOOT at infantry with a swarm launcher. |
Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
205
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Posted - 2012.10.14 20:28:00 -
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I'm a heavy with a forge gun , why not use it to kill infantry , we wont just sit there and let you kill us |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
362
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Posted - 2012.10.14 21:14:00 -
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Hitting players with a Forge Gun is tough to do, especially if they're moving. Honestly it's not something that can really be done consistently so just keep moving and hope I don't guess correctly which way you're gonna go. Just know that if you get killed by one it was all skill as the forge gun has a huge aiming reticule and you almost have to just shoot it on feel as much anything. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.14 21:38:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:isnGÇÖt there some kind of Geneva convention about not using Av weapons on infantry? I was shooting some dudes running around when all of a sudden I find a heavy and I unload a clip into him with my assault then change to my sub and finish him off with that the whole time the grounds exploding and I never think anything of it thing heGÇÖs wasting forge blast like with a swarm.
I meet the same guy a few moments later and this time I donGÇÖt have conveniently place boxes to absorb the blast and the whole time I think heGÇÖs not heGÇÖs not oh god what do I do, it was a deer in the headlights moment for me as he blew me away with a forge I was pissed and for good reason what kinda noob uses a AV weapon to kill infantry?
But down to the point what should I do we they are using a forge?
- We don't have Geneva, we have Concord.
- Concord only really has 3 rules: "No Capital Ships in high-sec (a clause provides exceptions for Orcas, Freighters, and Jump-Freighters -- Enforced by Jump Gate Controls and various other system blockades)," "No Bombs in high-sec (enforced by firing lock placed on all bomb launcher modules)," and "If you attack someone you aren't supposed to they'll kill you to death (They have a squad leader who uses a death ray that will kill any ship in one blast)."
- The kind of "noob" who can accurately aim a shaking weapon in the direction of an infantry unit and time the release of his charged forge round so that it intersects closely enough to the offending unit to vaporize it in a small explosion.
- Kill them first with whatever weapon you can. A forge gun has to charge before it can fire and shakes like a beast in heat while you're trying to aim. Avoid the shot and shoot the guy to death or feed him a grenade.
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Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.15 06:46:00 -
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Tyrus Four wrote:you can't even SHOOT at infantry with a swarm launcher.
The Swarm and the Forge are two very different weapons types. One is a point and shoot, projectile or energy weapon. The other is a tracking/homing missile type, the latter should require a lock on a target before firing.
Besides, Swarms requires lighter suits, forge requires a heavy, meaning the swarm users have the ability to have a sidearm (pistol or SMG), the heavy does not have that slot, they should be allowed to use the Forge on people coming after them. |
Jack McReady
A.C.M.E Corp
71
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Posted - 2012.10.15 07:04:00 -
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forge guns can be very deadly against infantry with good aim and high SP investment. |
Tyrus Four
128
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Posted - 2012.10.15 07:08:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Tyrus Four wrote:you can't even SHOOT at infantry with a swarm launcher. The Swarm and the Forge are two very different weapons types. One is a point and shoot, projectile or energy weapon. The other is a tracking/homing missile type, the latter should require a lock on a target before firing. Besides, Swarms requires lighter suits, forge requires a heavy, meaning the swarm users have the ability to have a sidearm (pistol or SMG), the heavy does not have that slot, they should be allowed to use the Forge on people coming after them.
Heavies have Sidearm slots. at least some of them do. mine does.
and i wasn't saying that not shooting swarms at infantry was a bad thing. was just correcting someone who thought they could.
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
Doomheim
83
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Posted - 2012.10.15 10:10:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:isnGÇÖt there some kind of Geneva convention about not using Av weapons on infantry? I was shooting some dudes running around when all of a sudden I find a heavy and I unload a clip into him with my assault then change to my sub and finish him off with that the whole time the grounds exploding and I never think anything of it thing heGÇÖs wasting forge blast like with a swarm.
I meet the same guy a few moments later and this time I donGÇÖt have conveniently place boxes to absorb the blast and the whole time I think heGÇÖs not heGÇÖs not oh god what do I do, it was a deer in the headlights moment for me as he blew me away with a forge I was pissed and for good reason what kinda noob uses a AV weapon to kill infantry?
But down to the point what should I do we they are using a forge?
Before rushing on open space make sure that no one is on the roof - if you see heavy on roof, snipe him. If Heavy is on the ground, try to hide behind box, or small hill to prevent him from shooting on ground next to you. If he is good AT-guy he will try to shot you in the chest instead, so all you need to do is to strafe randomly in both directions, one time on every 1-2 sec. Use your grenades they may not kill him, but he will certainly count them as threat and try to move far away from them - you can try to use that moment to engage him on close range. You will win on close if you attack him from back, or side and you try to stay on his back. Don't rush to heavy when he looking at you, because you will burn out part of your stamina very quickly, and heavy that see you have 100% of it and he can crush you on close as peanut. |
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xMarauder
Doomheim
139
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Posted - 2012.10.15 10:19:00 -
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I don't get killed by forge guns often, but when I do, I get my forge gun. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.15 12:02:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:isnGÇÖt there some kind of Geneva convention about not using Av weapons on infantry? I was shooting some dudes running around when all of a sudden I find a heavy and I unload a clip into him with my assault then change to my sub and finish him off with that the whole time the grounds exploding and I never think anything of it thing heGÇÖs wasting forge blast like with a swarm.
I meet the same guy a few moments later and this time I donGÇÖt have conveniently place boxes to absorb the blast and the whole time I think heGÇÖs not heGÇÖs not oh god what do I do, it was a deer in the headlights moment for me as he blew me away with a forge I was pissed and for good reason what kinda noob uses a AV weapon to kill infantry?
But down to the point what should I do we they are using a forge?
It could have been me that forge gunned you! I have been running into a lot of zion guys of late. And an experienced forge gunner like me can pretty much shoot down anything. I have been forge gunned in the face too. It aint that bad :)! |
Gawdbotherer
Doomheim
6
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Posted - 2012.10.15 12:28:00 -
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I was using as Forge gun this weekend, I only started the character on Friday and had to dump all my SP into the skills needed to even use one, Much fun was had especially "counter sniping" which invovoled either 1 shotting them on hitting them once and watch them jump about as if a honets nest had just landed net to them.
1 Hits most infantry close or at range and LAV's are like a xmas present packed with little +50's.
PS As your about to fire crouch steady your aim and fire, especially for any long range shots. Also the reticle will change color to orange when you are aimed dead on a target, yet it won't always hit so then when crouching comes into play. |
miahus
CrimeWave Syndicate
78
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Posted - 2012.10.15 12:42:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:isnGÇÖt there some kind of Geneva convention about not using Av weapons on infantry? I was shooting some dudes running around when all of a sudden I find a heavy and I unload a clip into him with my assault then change to my sub and finish him off with that the whole time the grounds exploding and I never think anything of it thing heGÇÖs wasting forge blast like with a swarm.
I meet the same guy a few moments later and this time I donGÇÖt have conveniently place boxes to absorb the blast and the whole time I think heGÇÖs not heGÇÖs not oh god what do I do, it was a deer in the headlights moment for me as he blew me away with a forge I was pissed and for good reason what kinda noob uses a AV weapon to kill infantry?
But down to the point what should I do we they are using a forge?
unless his shields and armor are down and is tenderized for a kill, unless you're a buffed heavy with a heavy weapon....RUN. |
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