The only real problems with this build are isk glitches, and framerate issues. You guys just want the game how you want it to be, not how the devs want it to be. Go **** yourselves, and let the devs make the gameplay how they want the gameplay, not like every other shooter. You aren't here to change the game altogether, you're here for balancing, glitches, suggestions of things to implement, and ideas. Not design.

Fast strafe speeds was the game ccp had originally envisioned. You have it wrong. We are telling ccp to go back to the game they originally wanted to make before all the evetards started crying nerf.

Seriously nerfing weapons to balance a game is one thing. To nerf core game mechanics because the beta playerbase is full of whiny PC gamers is insanity.

I've never read anywhere that CCP originally envisioned Dust514 as an arcade-style shooter, with fast paced run'n'gun playstyles. In fact, I've read just the opposite. CCP wants the game to be a more serious game, relying on not dying, being given orders, having plans before attacking other players. Requiring resources, that you'll not want to waste.

I didn't say anything about an arcade shooter... Stop being willfully ignorant. This is about strafe speeds. CCP originally had fast strafe speeds. The evetard playerbase cried partly because they couldn't aim and partly because they didn't have KBM and they couldn't aim.

We are telling CCP to make the fast paced game they had originally wanted to make. Before the scrubs who couldn't aim started asking ccp to hold their hands.

Fast strafe = arcade style, dumbshit.

How the hell do you know how they originally intended for the game to be? They never told you, and they've implied the opposite, now, read my edited former post, and do as it says.

Not at all , just no patience for the idiots of the forums, and enjoy insulting them.. I haven't been around since replication, instead I've looked up anything that the devs have stated since the beginning of development.

Fast strafe = arcade? So without the killstreaks, perks etc. COD would still be arcade

So how about you stop talking about things you know nothing about. Seriously you look like an the biggest idiot right now.

CoD=low strafe speeds. . .

Seriously this kengfa guy doesn't know **** about fps don't listen to him.

CoD=low strafe speeds. . .

Seriously this kengfa guy doesn't know **** about fps don't listen to him. HE will just add to the confusion.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever you say. I truly don't need to defend my statements. I was just trying to point you in the right direction to something that you're looking for, seeing as how you can't figure it out for yourself.

My piont exactly

You can't defend your statements because you have no idea what you are talking about. Fast strafe speeds does not always equal arcade shooters btw. I would explain more but you obviously don't know **** about fps and I'm not running an fps 101 class here.

Let me guess you think ADS=advanced dodging skills.

And just the fact that you agree with him, proves how moronic he is. I mean, come on, you fuckin' tried to get isk off of selling publicly available vent channel, then tried to get back into the corp you tried to sell it from, after insulting the person you tried to sell it to. How much of an idiot, can one be?

And just the fact that you agree with him, proves how moronic he is. I mean, come on, you fuckin' tried to get isk off of selling publicly available vent channel, then tried to get back into the corp you tried to sell it from, after insulting the person you tried to sell it to. How much of an idiot, can one be?

And the fact that i strung you along into thinking i would actually do that makes you the only idiot in that situation

Oh yeah, you don't know **** about how a game that you shoot **** works. Wonderful post, my friend! I bet I also don't know **** about how you right click to move stuff works, or **** about how walking works?
All you've said here, is that YOU, don't want a slow-paced game, involving thinking, and planning. You want a game, where you can run into combat, run in circles, and whoever is better at running in circles wins.

When you finally make a real point as to why a fast-paced, arcade style game is better, THEN I'll reply to your post. Until then, I bid thee farewell.

I already told you this, i was bullsh*tting you the whole time just to see your reaction when you realize i haven't been spying for you and again i wonder why didn't you insult me when i was in a squad with you and actually talking to you

My piont exactly

if we were allowed to post gameplay videos this game would have been completely different from the pile of crap we have now.

CoD is all about who gets the first shots off, dust is all about movement and tactical decisions. Nuff said.

So if I have this right group A is mad cause group B whined about strafe speeds and got it nerfed. Now we have a bunch of threads from group A wanting a Buff. Sounds familiar maybe even Irony let the Devs decide what kind of shooter they want. I'm sure they have a Design Doc describing exactly what kind of shooter the want to make. This goes to both sides if the games not your style move on to the next game til next build cause raging is not gonna help.

So if I have this right group A is mad cause group B whined about strafe speeds and got it nerfed. Now we have a bunch of threads from group A wanting a Buff. Sounds familiar maybe even Irony let the Devs decide what kind of shooter they want. I'm sure they have a Design Doc describing exactly what kind of shooter the want to make. This goes to both sides if the games not your style move on to the next game til next build cause raging is not gonna help.

So if I have this right group A is mad cause group B whined about strafe speeds and got it nerfed. Now we have a bunch of threads from group A wanting a Buff. Sounds familiar maybe even Irony let the Devs decide what kind of shooter they want. I'm sure they have a Design Doc describing exactly what kind of shooter the want to make. This goes to both sides if the games not your style move on to the next game til next build cause raging is not gonna help.

I didn't insult you while playing, because you weren't on the forums being a dumbass. I was enjoying myself, playing a game, that I enjoy playing. Having a squad is more fun. You weren't acting like a moron. As for the other part of that, yeah, okay, whatever you say.

So despite the fact that before then you call me idiot, ***, etc. While on the forum you saw no reason to continue the discussion the fastest way possible or telling me how you feel about me outside of typing it on the forum? Excuses, excuses

Not at all. Why would I? I think you're an idiot, you know I think you're an idiot. I don't mind joining a match with you, or anybody else. Hell, I'd join with quickgloves and probably enjoy myself. The forums, are the forums, where stupid ideas are thrown about and criticized, or get the poster insulted, by me. I'm friends with people that have done stupider **** than you tried to do.

It seems like someone with the brass to criticize me on the forums would be able to actually say what they've typed, just saying. And if i did try to find sh*t out i would've but instead i decided to just f*ck with you until you found out i wasn't doing anything

;lol rage is what got it nerfed in the first place.

Seriously though we never got to see how fun replication speeds could have been if it had good hit detection. We are still in beta there is no reason why ccp can't or won't try it out if we ask enough.

Your logi moved slower than my heavy and died faster/more often, you struggled just to keep up with me so how would you have blocked my gun?

Your memory is astounding. All your memories are changed into whatever makes you look better in the thread? How wonderful. Well, seeing as how that's what goes on here, I think i'll be done replying to you as well. Anyways, there's something known as "other fittings"

lolheadglitching behind cover
zero recoil standard AR's

@nachos from what i heard MoH 2012 is like a mix between COD and BF. Probably won't have any staying power on the xbox since halo release is so close. Might last for two weeks on the playstation at the most. Blackops 2 is going to be a great game though.

I realize it's a beta, so I'm trying to give feedback

This build is bland. Tasteless

We need Dust.

It's starting to become rock paper scissors with lag =_=

Some quality 'feedback' there mate. Way to go for giving them something to work with.

I'd +1 you, but I think this post is witty/sarcastic enough.

Regards

and framerate issues.

Slower movement doesn't make the game more skill based or tactical Kefka. The movement we currently have is like Call of Duty, which obviously is a VERY tactical and kill based shooter right? It's not fast paced at all./sarcasm.


People here speak from experience. CCP's first idea was to make starting and overall movement speeds much higher. Hence, the stamina bar, which is barely used now. People cried and whined, and they reduced it to this crap. If you'd played the older builds, you would know.

Slower movement doesn't make the game more skill based or tactical Kefka. The movement we currently have is like Call of Duty, which obviously is a VERY tactical and kill based shooter right? It's not fast paced at all./sarcasm.


People here speak from experience. CCP's first idea was to make starting and overall movement speeds much higher. Hence, the stamina bar, which is barely used now. People cried and whined, and they reduced it to this crap. If you'd played the older builds, you would know.

Back in replication the excuse "it's a beta" was perfectly valid. However, here we are 7 months later and this game has went to complete ****. CCP needs to stop adding more crap to this game and iron out the fundamentals, or this game will almost certainly be dead on arrival.

Adding back any mechanic that will make the game fast and exciting to play will not take away from the strategic elements of the game.

2 or 3 players setting up a good zone of fire can always take down any super adhd, twitch, jump, and strafe super kid no matter how fast they can strafe, jump, mid air turn and fire their weapon all at the same time. Even if the game allowed you to do cartwheels, though it might look silly, again, it wouldn't take away from the strategic elements that are already in the game.

What they have done with this build is remove one entire aspect of game play (though anathema to some players) that wasn't competing or with or taking away from any other. The game used to be a little more upbeat and stupid. Now it just seems slow and stupid. Stupid in that the vast majority of players aren't really evolving strategies beyond "Win with overwhelming force!". That takes time to develop, though, and meanwhileGǪ game is too slow.

However, if they had to slow down the strafe speed to improve hit detection and compensate for lag that is another thing entirely. If that is the case then it would be worthwhile to see if it is possible to uncoupled hit detection from strafing speed so that hit detection remains constant and strafing speed can be adjusted.

Exactly. The fact that there are corps, grouping, hundreds of different suit combinations etc. All of these play into the tactical part. Not many people are having "fun" with the new build.

You don't know what the **** you're talking about. But anyways...

Op your not alone man.

Anyone know of any strafe nerf support groups? I'm having a hard time moving on and dealing with it


its just this game was so epic fun. Why ccp why?

CCP needs to turn this game into the game they originally wanted to make back in replication. Eve players got there hands on beta codes and cried nerf. Seriously? Nerf core game mechanics? The game was action packed and exiting. The problem was never the strafing anyways. It was hit detection.

The community wanted core game mechanics nerfed before they even got to see how the game ran with proper hit detection.

So sad.

Why do people keep raging about this game like little girls on this forum?

Why do people keep raging about this game like little girls on this forum?

Lol if I was ccp I would ban you LOL. U the same dude who said you wanted TO WATCH the game fail. Or that was another troll?

Guys, stop quoting him. He's on my block list, and when you quote him, I accidentally see stuff he types and it makes me annoyed.

Why block people on a beta forum? Are you that scared someone will hurt your feelings?

[This game used to be fast action packed goodness. Now its a boring campfest.

Bring back the adrenaline ccp\

Buff strafe speeds back to replication status.

It's not a fair comparison. But then, they're all already lvl 50, 2nd play through complete. I just finishe first play through because I'n sold on Dust. Correction, WAS sold on Dust.
Really, no-one cares about Dust.

It's not a fair comparison. But then, they're all already lvl 50, 2nd play through complete. I just finishe first play through because I'n sold on Dust. Correction, WAS sold on Dust.
Really, no-one cares about Dust.

All 4 of us are grinders. Heck, we got 90% of the pearlescents in #1. Never did find the Anshin Rose. They'll be playing until they have a lvl 50 version of every unique. It's fun. Just throw it on, kill some dudes, maybe find some cool stuff.

Dust just isn't fun. There is very little incentive to play a game which isn't fun.

That summarizes the arguments of all lone wolfers crying out loud at the moment as they feel they won't get their kicks and high kdr's WITHOUT TEAMPLAY.

To each and every one of you wanting strafe buff and power into their personal hands:
Sorry, having small scale battle lines and fronts of infantry making a break into each other is not your 'boring campfest'.

Replication was Dust at it's weakest with majority of mid-close encounters degenerating into turn&burn fights with reload speed competition (no matter what hit detection is).

high strafe speeds make it too easy to dodge, especially when combined with the fact that dust suits have shields and stuff.