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4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.11 23:10:00 -
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Looking on the leader broad and BETAMAX has lost some players, their top scorers what has happened? |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.10.11 23:11:00 -
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Oro?!... |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.11 23:28:00 -
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There is a rebranding going on. Betamax as a Sony Trademark ran into hurdles with sponsorship. People who are interested in the ultra-competitive are moving in waves due to various timers, real life schedules, and the like. Those who are more casual will remain with Betamax as a way to keep all you other scrubs in line This is a difference in attitude and logistics, Betamax will still be a name to pay attention to. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.11 23:34:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:There is a rebranding going on. Betamax as a Sony Trademark ran into hurdles with sponsorship. People are moving in waves due to various timers, real life schedules, and the like.
No more betamax then? |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.11 23:39:00 -
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4447 wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:There is a rebranding going on. Betamax as a Sony Trademark ran into hurdles with sponsorship. People are moving in waves due to various timers, real life schedules, and the like. No more betamax then?
It will continue as a more casual corp. Some of our competitive members are moving. We ran into real trademark issues with the name Betamax as sponsored team, therefore our talented members are simply desiring a new identity to keep our options open. Betamax will continue to thrive, but a lot of familiar faces are staying together to be the very best, like no one ever was, to ca... wait, wrong game. Anywho, nothing to see here, carry on the face pew pew. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.11 23:45:00 -
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shame, so understanding this correctly your all joining under different corp name? and all your big players will be joining to? |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
328
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Posted - 2012.10.11 23:52:00 -
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hey to all who left betamax i guess ill b the first jerk to try an post its like the sankuski case.. lol.. unless u guys are just creating a new corp then gl otherwise STB always needs more guys! |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.10.11 23:54:00 -
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Quickgloves wrote:hey to all who left betamax i guess ill b the first jerk to try an post its like the sankuski case.. lol.. unless u guys are just creating a new corp then gl otherwise STB always needs more guys! You guys seem to be pretty sizable already, honestly. |
Xavier Hastings
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
243
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Posted - 2012.10.11 23:57:00 -
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Well, there is always ZionTCD... |
The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
373
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Posted - 2012.10.12 00:04:00 -
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Xavier Hastings wrote:Well, there is always ZionTCD...
Not to piggy-back, but you guys are also welcome to even just play along with us, not necessarily join. It's all gravy either way |
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JAQ13
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
34
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Posted - 2012.10.12 00:08:00 -
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cant go wrong with ZionTCD :) |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.10.12 00:33:00 -
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^ 3 wise men =)
And to the neo-betamax corp, whatever your name is, best of luck. Looking forward to meeting you folks in your new incarnation. |
Icy Tiger
63
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Posted - 2012.10.12 00:53:00 -
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wait.... what's going on? |
Nickles Jester
BetaMax.
43
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Posted - 2012.10.12 00:54:00 -
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According to the head honchos we are restructuring, we haven't lost anyone yet tho in game some players are in an alternate corp. I have been assured that everything will be worked out once the restructuring is finished and all the new members are properly assessed. Thank you for your concern and no worries everyone's favorite or close to favorite rival isn't going anywhere for awhile. :) |
Nameless 514
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.10.12 02:12:00 -
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So it seems that if was failed to inform the reg member base of Betamax and all it cares about is the Top 10 killers? Why were they left in the dark? |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.12 02:14:00 -
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Nameless 514 wrote:So it seems that if was failed to inform the reg member base of Betamax and all it cares about is the Top 10 killers? Why were they left in the dark?
Spys. We knew we had them. That is all.
On a serious note, with the recent stream of applicants, not all are ready to move on and we didn't want to alarm anyone until plans are finalized. |
Nameless 514
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.10.12 02:18:00 -
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Thank you Noc for the reply. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.12 02:35:00 -
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Drama :D So who was zee spy? Stop being so cryptic. You ARE a bunch of Mercs working for the highest bidder right? Like Jenza said where you aren't freedom fighters or what not.
Loosen up...It's only a beta.
+1 for the staunch jobs worth security officer role playing though ;) |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.12 02:40:00 -
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There were no spies in betamax. It was false flag attempt to make betamax paraniod. It looks like it worked.
BOOOSH.
I just droped the bomb. |
Nameless 514
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.10.12 02:46:00 -
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It appears any who still hold the Betamax Tag is a spy |
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Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2012.10.12 02:46:00 -
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Always welcome to join us if it comes to it. :D |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1620
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Posted - 2012.10.12 02:55:00 -
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Hey my guys, make sure to be supportive to the Betamax crew and be respectful. Will support you Noc in any way we can. They are not gone, just under a new corp name(still same group on the inside)
If there is ever a day TCD needed to rebuild, we would want to same courtesy.
ZionTCD CEO, ZionShad |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.10.12 03:47:00 -
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dont like what i read here and i dont like it even more that ive got the news about it from a guy outside from betamax. Dont know how im gonna handle this situation now. I allready got a good offer from a different corp. |
Icy Tiger
63
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Posted - 2012.10.12 04:18:00 -
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Hmmmm.... |
crouchwalking SCRUB
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2012.10.12 04:24:00 -
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All this over "spies" that didn't exist. I know the people behind the spy hoax in betamax. The truth is there were no spies. That was just a hoax to make the higher ups in betamax paraniod.
LOL at betamax for falling for it. |
Nickles Jester
BetaMax.
43
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Posted - 2012.10.12 04:25:00 -
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Sorry you had to find out this way cloud. However there has been some talk about this on the Betamax website/forums. There have been discussions about assessments and the Betamax steamroller squad. I'm sure there has been much more discussion in the IRC channel which unfortunately I haven't seen/been part of because I have yet to redownload and join the IRC channel. There has also been talk about it in game where I got the bulk of information from. I'm sorry you missed this information but it's been out there in some form for some time. If you seriously want to leave because of this minor hiccup then please by all means take the offer, we'll miss ya if ya go, and I hope you show them more loyalty than you're showing us. I'm sorry if I am coming off as rude I don't mean to be, I just hope you understand just how much is going on and just how much work and organizing it's taking to make BetaMax a well oiled machine.
I also hope you understand this is a crucial time for BetaMax, what the leaders need is time, patience, understanding, and most importantly loyalty. If you can't give that then I don't understand how you or anyone with your attitude about this no matter how understandable it may be will make the cut. BetaMax has been, is, and will be one of the best corps in the game because it's thoughtful, methodical, precise, and experienced leadership. You can either try to be part of this and give them your all, or you can walk away when they need you the most. Choice is yours, I've made mine and it was an easy one. There are allot of great and noble Corps out there Zion TCD being one of them but at the end of the day I put my money on BetaMax, that's why I'm giving them my time, my patience, my understanding, and most importantly my loyalty. |
Nickles Jester
BetaMax.
43
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Posted - 2012.10.12 04:29:00 -
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crouchwalking SCRUB wrote:All this over "spies" that didn't exist. I know the people behind the spy hoax in betamax. The truth is there were no spies. That was just a hoax to make the higher ups in betamax paraniod. LOL at betamax for falling for it. I'm 90% sure Noc was joking about spies, hence the statement "on a serious note". What not enough people feeding you in the troll topic you made, so ya decide to come here? |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.10.12 04:32:00 -
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i would like to talk with zitro/jenza or who ever is in charge now to clear it up whats happening. I bet theres more behind it as ive heard from. |
crouchwalking SCRUB
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2012.10.12 04:33:00 -
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Nickles Jester wrote:crouchwalking SCRUB wrote:All this over "spies" that didn't exist. I know the people behind the spy hoax in betamax. The truth is there were no spies. That was just a hoax to make the higher ups in betamax paraniod. LOL at betamax for falling for it. I'm 90% sure Noc was joking about spies, hence the statement "on a serious note". What not enough people feeding you in the troll topic you made, so ya decide to come here? That thread disapeared into thin air. ccp ninja delete yo. |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1620
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Posted - 2012.10.12 07:09:00 -
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TCD Though we started the post I would like you to know will do our best not to Interfere or Poach its member base as things are worked out. Will allow this post to run its course.
We wish the best of luck to the members of Betamax |
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Tien TheSecond
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
198
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Posted - 2012.10.12 07:12:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:There is a rebranding going on. Betamax as a Sony Trademark ran into hurdles with sponsorship. People are moving in waves due to various timers, real life schedules, and the like.
HAHAHA fkin Sony, but then again anyone who remembers Betamax (film students mostly) know that it's a Sony format. GG on the rebrand though, betamax didn't win the format war.
Also sponsors? Must be the eve tourney, no e-sports for DUST yet. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.12 08:25:00 -
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Any idea if/when you guys will be up and running for corp battles? (what's the new name btw?) |
Ad ski
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
209
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:12:00 -
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This should be an interesting one to keep an eye on. Good luck Noc/zitro. |
Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
317
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:02:00 -
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so this corporation is colapsing before the game leaves BETA??
Interesting, |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:05:00 -
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We're all basically joining the same corp with a different name.
The dark cloud wrote:i would like to talk with zitro/jenza or who ever is in charge now to clear it up whats happening. I bet theres more behind it as ive heard from. It's not that big of a deal. |
Vadre Zekariah
Zoobog Enterprises
37
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Posted - 2012.10.12 11:56:00 -
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Umm, why is this news being made public?
I was under the impression Betamax was a more professional Corp who understood the value of discretion.
Either some in-house issues have made this Corp split in two.............or this is an attempt at a clever hoax to spread questions and dissension between Corps. Either way, as Zion said, let this lie. A splitting Corp deserves room to breathe, or a Corp who is spreading propaganda may need room.......period. |
Frank A
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
99
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Posted - 2012.10.12 12:12:00 -
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Vadre Zekariah wrote:Umm, why is this news being made public?
I was under the impression Betamax was a more professional Corp who understood the value of discretion.
Either some in-house issues have made this Corp split in two.............or this is an attempt at a clever hoax to spread questions and dissension between Corps. Either way, as Zion said, let this lie. A splitting Corp deserves room to breathe, or a Corp who is spreading propaganda may need room.......period.
Welcome to New Eden where 99% of hats (posts) are made of tinfoil. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
328
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Posted - 2012.10.12 12:20:00 -
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Nameless 514 wrote:It appears any who still hold the Betamax Tag is a spy
dude im a spy an i infiltrated STB to rip them apart abuuuhahhaahhh |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.12 15:44:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:We're all basically joining the same corp with a different name. The dark cloud wrote:i would like to talk with zitro/jenza or who ever is in charge now to clear it up whats happening. I bet theres more behind it as ive heard from. It's not that big of a deal.
This is true in some senses, but to the layman it is not. If you know Betamax history, it will feel that way (so that's why I talk about it that way) but the new corp is not directly affiliated, although it is officially endorsed as an avenue for our competitive branch to stay focused and keep options open. |
D3LTA SUP3RMAN
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
244
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Posted - 2012.10.12 16:01:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:Hey my guys, make sure to be supportive to the Betamax crew and be respectful. Will support you Noc in any way we can. They are not gone, just under a new corp name(still same group on the inside) If there is ever a day TCD needed to rebuild, we would want to same courtesy. ZionTCD CEO, ZionShad
Come on man. This is business. It's one thing if someone has personal problems, but this has nothing to do with that. This is nothing more than the inevitable result of the personalities represented there. A good dose of humility goes a long way, and i have no doubt there was a severe shortage of it in betamax. While i dont know any of them personally, i base my opinion off several posts found throughout these forums. Anyone who goes out of their way to talk about how good they are at something in reality is just over compensating. It will never last, because ego's will always get in the way.
Thats just a humble opinion from a little known corp CEO. We'll see how it all plays out in the end. |
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.12 16:11:00 -
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Nameless 514 wrote:It appears any who still hold the Betamax Tag is a spy
Sorry for missing this before. I know it's a joke, but it's not serious at all. I'll have to edit the "SPAIS! EVERYWHERE!!" Post if it is too confusing. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.12 17:08:00 -
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Well, I guess that's the end of Betamax. Imperfects is the new corp I assume... |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.10.12 17:10:00 -
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was there drama? otherwise not interested. clans always come and go. |
Nickles Jester
BetaMax.
43
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Posted - 2012.10.12 17:14:00 -
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Noc! important hope you see this, the point you made earlier about Betamax being copyrighted is a valid argument and I'm not contesting that. However I did some research and found that Imperfects is copyrighted as well so you have just as much trouble with that as with Betamax. I can't send a direct link to the page because it will say expired session so go here Copyrights Search for: Imperfects Search by: keyword then under the crystal clear link should be link 6 under the marvel copyrights and it's copyrighted as the name of a song. Just thought you guys should know with that current name you will likely face as many problems as you would with BetaMax. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.12 17:14:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:There is a rebranding going on. Betamax as a Sony Trademark ran into hurdles with sponsorship. People who are interested in the ultra-competitive are moving in waves due to various timers, real life schedules, and the like. Those who are more casual will remain with Betamax as a way to keep all you other scrubs in line This is a difference in attitude and logistics, Betamax will still be a name to pay attention to.
I like the Corp name! +1 for that! Best of luck with the new corp! |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.12 17:16:00 -
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Nickles Jester wrote:Noc! important hope you see this, the point you made earlier about Betamax being copyrighted is a valid argument and I'm not contesting that. However I did some research and found that Imperfects is copyrighted as well so you have just as much trouble with that as with Betamax. I can't send a direct link to the page because it will say expired session so go here Copyrights Search for: Imperfects Search by: keyword then under the crystal clear link should be link 6 under the marvel copyrights and it's copyrighted as the name of a song. Just thought you guys should know with that current name you will likely face as many problems as you would with BetaMax.
Any name right now is temporary. But thanks for the heads up |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2012.10.12 17:24:00 -
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Even if the spy paranoid story is true, ask yourself the question.
What damage was done?
Answer is absolutely none, spies can't claim they did anything serious by having beta max not only be shuffled about but become a honey net 'assest.' in the process.
Anyone in eve knows you can change labels but you cant change the contents. Notorious players will continue to be notorious players no matter which corp they're in. People years from now may still refer to noc and friends as betamax despite numerous name changes provided they stick together. |
843 pano
843 Boot Camp
200
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Posted - 2012.10.12 17:48:00 -
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What ever the reason this is truly a PR cluster kitten. I think every corp can learn from this.
I can understand why some of the larger corps would want an elite corp, due to the current corp ranking system. Using the betamax corp as your recruiting corp and funneling the current and newly found killers to an elite corp is smart, the new elite corp will rank well. it's worked well for the Marines/SEALS so it should work well for you too.
Best of luck and hope you all can work it out. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.12 18:15:00 -
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@Iron Wolf They did the damage themselves. If they're going to burn 50% of their corp, including some very good players, what corp in their right mind would hire them? One of them spoke about loyalty. He doesn't understand that splintering off to form your own "elite" corp isn't exactly the best display of loyalty. All you had to do was add everyone, and send them a message. I think that would have saved all the drama. |
Skytt Syysch
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
235
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Posted - 2012.10.12 18:18:00 -
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What drama? You guys are making all the drama yourselves by posting this thread and creating rumors and speculating on "what it all means." |
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Grimmiers
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2012.10.12 19:30:00 -
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Their making a new corp called "I can't Believe it's not Betamax". |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.12 19:38:00 -
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Awsome my spy made it into the new leet corp. I'm very proud of him / her. |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.10.13 03:41:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:We're all basically joining the same corp with a different name. The dark cloud wrote:i would like to talk with zitro/jenza or who ever is in charge now to clear it up whats happening. I bet theres more behind it as ive heard from. It's not that big of a deal. This is true in some senses, but to the layman it is not. If you know Betamax history, it will feel that way (so that's why I talk about it that way) but the new corp is not directly affiliated, although it is officially endorsed as an avenue for our competitive branch to stay focused and keep options open. I need to get around to joining it.
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Vadre Zekariah
Zoobog Enterprises
37
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Posted - 2012.10.14 11:26:00 -
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Grimmiers wrote:Their making a new corp called "I can't Believe it's not Betamax".
hahahah........
Been a bad day after a nasty Imperfects encounter. This was the first thing to put a smile on my face since. Too funny mate.
And the words ring true: Yes, I can't believe it's not BetaMax. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
251
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:42:00 -
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I'm a spy? AWESOME! |
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