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ReGnUM STBslayer DEI
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:10:00 -
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Thoughts anyone? |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:11:00 -
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ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Thoughts anyone?
Lol, no. |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:12:00 -
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pointless thread you offer no real reason why we should even discuss this. |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:12:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Thoughts anyone? Lol, no.
Really cause I just played a guy who went 47-0 in the dropship
and no could shoot him down LOL |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:13:00 -
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Quit exaggerating, I only went 18-0.... |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:15:00 -
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ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Thoughts anyone?
Haha you no like dropships. :) Actually ReGnUM look at my dropship thread I do talk about a fix for this. A Hug problem is swarms follow the path you take and so you can outrun them in circles all day long. They need to make them take the shortest path towards dropships. also need to make a Anti Aircraft swarm that is faster but does less damage so it is not viable option against tanks also and LAVs
Dropship thread is on the second page of feedback. :P |
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ReGnUM STBslayer DEI
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:16:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Quit exaggerating, I only went 18-0....
Not you lol, but a person in a myrn a couple games ago... anyways if you can go 18-0 somthing must be wrong |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:19:00 -
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They came for the AV, and I said nothing They came for the tanks, and I said nothing, they came for the dropships, and what? |
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ReGnUM STBslayer DEI
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:21:00 -
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Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Thoughts anyone? Haha you no like dropships. :) Actually ReGnUM look at my dropship thread I do talk about a fix for this. A Hug problem is swarms follow the path you take and so you can outrun them in circles all day long. They need to make them take the shortest path towards dropships. also need to make a Anti Aircraft swarm that is faster but does less damage so it is not viable option against tanks also and LAVs Dropship thread is on the second page of feedback. :P
TY |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:21:00 -
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Wait three weeks, when some players have skilled up and invested in better versions of swarm launchers, and also better versions of dropships. We will see how the crying pans out.
Two guys with starter swarm fits can keep a dropship occupied so it doesn't really do anything other than fly around in circles or hide out low to the ground.
And yes, something is wrong when a team shoots at the drop ship with their assault rifles and otherwise lets one fly around and kill them. |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:22:00 -
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This is absolute crap. I mean no offense by that, but I can take out dropships just fine. You actually need people going after it (first off).
Secondly, why is no one considering the usefulness of the forge gun against dropships??? I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS! |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:24:00 -
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Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Thoughts anyone? Haha you no like dropships. :) Actually ReGnUM look at my dropship thread I do talk about a fix for this. A Hug problem is swarms follow the path you take and so you can outrun them in circles all day long. They need to make them take the shortest path towards dropships. also need to make a Anti Aircraft swarm that is faster but does less damage so it is not viable option against tanks also and LAVs Dropship thread is on the second page of feedback. :P
Damage will keep staking up from unavoidable rockets (or not?). I prefer faster speed, more damage but lower homing capabilities. As said, it's Anti Aircraft (Lock-on Only too), not intended to murder tanks -_- |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:26:00 -
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The Polish Hammer wrote:This is absolute crap. I mean no offense by that, but I can take out dropships just fine. You actually need people going after it (first off).
Secondly, why is no one considering the usefulness of the forge gun against dropships??? I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS!
Not a lot of people got to use the skills for Forge Guns... |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:27:00 -
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Dropships can't be all that bad, they haven't added the Webifier on the game. This will surely helps a lot. |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:29:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:The Polish Hammer wrote:This is absolute crap. I mean no offense by that, but I can take out dropships just fine. You actually need people going after it (first off).
Secondly, why is no one considering the usefulness of the forge gun against dropships??? I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS! Not a lot of people got to use the skills for Forge Guns...
I know, i'm just stating that the forge gun is VERY capable of taking down dropships. I sort of hope it drives more people to pick up the heavy class. |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:55:00 -
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i went with a forge gunning heavy on one of my alts and that thing is a dropship's worse nightmare |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:01:00 -
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You take out dropships with any of these 1) Forge guns (preferably massed) 2) Rail gun fire (turrets or tanks) 3) blaster fire when in range(turrets or tanks) 4) Filling the air with missiles while swarms force dropship to fly in a predictable path (LAV not turrets you need the accelerated missiles so they can't dodge) |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:03:00 -
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I'm still trying to figure out how to fly these bricks. |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:07:00 -
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Surviving infinity swarms in a dropship is trivially easy. The skills for that (flying in a fast circle around the map) are the first ones I developed when learning to fly.
As previously mentioned, however, this forces you to maintain a wide arc flight path. It can make dropships fairly easy pickings to a forge gunner. HAVs and installations theoretically have a similar capacity to be dangerous, but I've found them to be easy enough to find and target that they're not that much of a problem. |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:19:00 -
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Its strange how swarms became the anti ground AV and forge is really the only effective anti air( as well as anti ground). |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:20:00 -
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Ayures II wrote:I'm still trying to figure out how to fly these bricks. You don't really fly dropships to transport friendlies. You fly dropships to try to evade countless swarms and missiles. This doesn't help but it gives you insight that once you figure out how to fly you quickly have to figure out how to evade infinite missiles. |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:26:00 -
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ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:... I just played a guy who went 47-0 in the dropship... got me beat. my best was 30-0 with Noc flying :) although the few games before that were 29-0, 23-0, 22-1. not bad. :) |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:27:00 -
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This thread is ridiculous. |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:52:00 -
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I just made one last a whole 5min. Maybe even longer. Aw, yeah. |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 04:11:00 -
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Ima Leet wrote:ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:... I just played a guy who went 47-0 in the dropship... got me beat. my best was 30-0 with Noc flying :) although the few games before that were 29-0, 23-0, 22-1. not bad. :)
Those are all noob cake scores. lol. 66-0 with Enigma one game. But ya I do agree they need to do work with swarms. One big problem with swarms is they follow your path instead of taking the most direct route. Which would force people to fly away then. |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 04:17:00 -
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I always thought swarms were meant for the ground anyway as their lock-on ability seems to mainly be geared to firing from cover as opposed to chasing the target (although it certainly helps for an LAV on the move). Forge guns always seemed more for dropships anyway. |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 04:17:00 -
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Calling dropships i win buttons is like calling regnum intelligent and gentlemanly |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 04:24:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Calling dropships i win buttons is like calling regnum intelligent and gentlemanly
THANK GOD a FPS only requires you to point and shoot HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAH |
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ReGnUM ALPHAandOMEGA DEI wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Calling dropships i win buttons is like calling regnum intelligent and gentlemanly THANK GOD a FPS only requires you to point and shoot HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
ANOTHER regnum ALT! WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO! WE'RE ALL DEAD! HE'S SUCH A TROLL! oh that's right, troll back.
U mad whiny voiced bro? |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 04:54:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:ReGnUM ALPHAandOMEGA DEI wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Calling dropships i win buttons is like calling regnum intelligent and gentlemanly THANK GOD a FPS only requires you to point and shoot HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAH ANOTHER regnum ALT! WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO! WE'RE ALL DEAD! HE'S SUCH A TROLL! oh that's right, troll back. U mad whiny voiced bro?
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Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Thoughts anyone? Haha you no like dropships. :) Actually ReGnUM look at my dropship thread I do talk about a fix for this. A Hug problem is swarms follow the path you take and so you can outrun them in circles all day long. They need to make them take the shortest path towards dropships. also need to make a Anti Aircraft swarm that is faster but does less damage so it is not viable option against tanks also and LAVs Dropship thread is on the second page of feedback. :P
Yup you can shoot swarm rockets at the drop ship all day long and only a few will hit if they are sitting still. Otherwise they can lazily drift in circles and avoid rockets.
When I say lazily, I mean someone with the reaction times of a slug can avoid rockets being shot by multiple players and barely lose 50% shields.
Rocket telemetry, speed and flight path all needs a buff.
Rockets are too weak, too slow, and very poor at tracking the target.
I would much rather just have a rocket that shoots straight so I can lead the target and actually hit the damned thing.
Right now, I have to wait for a lock on (wasting time) and then I watch as my rockets that fly so slow one is amazed that they stay in the air creep far behind the drop ship as the pilot leads them into walls and buildings with out much skill or effort.
The drop ship should not be nerfed. The problem is the rockets imo.
Right now the best way to take out a drop ship... is with another drop ship or tank.
Once again the swarm launcher is impotent in being effective against a vehicle... which of course is it sole intended purpose.
Hopefully CCP can fix this one pretty quick.
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Let me be clear. I don't think that one guy should be able to shoot down a Drop Ship with only one volley of swarm rockets. But if he is locked on with in 50m of the target... he should be able to land most of them on the drop ship.
Right now it doesn't play out that way due to the almost ridiculously slow speed at which the rockets travel.
Buff the rockets, leave the drop ships alone. |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 06:12:00 -
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STYLIE77 wrote:Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Thoughts anyone? Haha you no like dropships. :) Actually ReGnUM look at my dropship thread I do talk about a fix for this. A Hug problem is swarms follow the path you take and so you can outrun them in circles all day long. They need to make them take the shortest path towards dropships. also need to make a Anti Aircraft swarm that is faster but does less damage so it is not viable option against tanks also and LAVs Dropship thread is on the second page of feedback. :P Yup you can shoot swarm rockets at the drop ship all day long and only a few will hit if they are sitting still. Otherwise they can lazily drift in circles and avoid rockets. When I say lazily, I mean someone with the reaction times of a slug can avoid rockets being shot by multiple players and barely lose 50% shields. Rocket telemetry, speed and flight path all needs a buff. Rockets are too weak, too slow, and very poor at tracking the target. I would much rather just have a rocket that shoots straight so I can lead the target and actually hit the damned thing. Right now, I have to wait for a lock on (wasting time) and then I watch as my rockets that fly so slow one is amazed that they stay in the air creep far behind the drop ship as the pilot leads them into walls and buildings with out much skill or effort. The drop ship should not be nerfed. The problem is the rockets imo. Right now the best way to take out a drop ship... is with another drop ship or tank. Once again the swarm launcher is impotent in being effective against a vehicle... which of course is it sole intended purpose. Hopefully CCP can fix this one pretty quick. ====================== Let me be clear. I don't think that one guy should be able to shoot down a Drop Ship with only one volley of swarm rockets. But if he is locked on with in 50m of the target... he should be able to land most of them on the drop ship. Right now it doesn't play out that way due to the almost ridiculously slow speed at which the rockets travel.
Buff the rockets, leave the drop ships alone. What u talking about a swarm missils tracking is horrendously wel u cant dodge them just out runthem then they send dropships for a whirl if they hit the pilot unexpectedly or just right to where u make the dropship crash. Swarms have enough dmg to eat through a well armored dropships tank most can take 3-4 shots befor going down or being in dire needs of repair. Yes a swarm missile is slow enough to where it cant match a dropships top speed but it takes a dropship a long time to go from a siting still hover to top speed then if u make a tight turn u lose ur sped and wam ur hit by a barrage of swarms thats built up over time. Dodging swarms are imposible and ive tried this i have actually flown straight over incomeing swarms so we are now heading in opposite directions which would cause most missels to lose a lock. My gunners then sit there in amazement as they watch the same missiles make a 90 degree turn and come straight back and ur telling me the tracking aint good enogh.
As i see it forge guns are abusive to dropships as there a big ass gun ment to take on tanks shooting at a fly with pinpoint percision. Now should they be able to hit us yes but at full strength no im thinking for the forge gun we use somethng similer to eves falloff system. This will eather make it so when a forger is shooting beyond a given distance appropriate for there strength of gun the bullit begins to fall off its path in a random direction makeing them somewhat like a musket in terms of bullet dynamics. Or we could have the dmg decrease as the bullit travels further again hampering a forgers ability to place sniper shots from sniping distances that kill anyone in one shot. This could be explained as the los of plasma and energy over long ranges |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 06:34:00 -
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How to kill a dropship with swarm launchers.
Shoot at its rear end do not fire while he's looking at you. |
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wathak 514 wrote:STYLIE77 wrote:Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Thoughts anyone? Haha you no like dropships. :) Actually ReGnUM look at my dropship thread I do talk about a fix for this. A Hug problem is swarms follow the path you take and so you can outrun them in circles all day long. They need to make them take the shortest path towards dropships. also need to make a Anti Aircraft swarm that is faster but does less damage so it is not viable option against tanks also and LAVs Dropship thread is on the second page of feedback. :P Yup you can shoot swarm rockets at the drop ship all day long and only a few will hit if they are sitting still. Otherwise they can lazily drift in circles and avoid rockets. When I say lazily, I mean someone with the reaction times of a slug can avoid rockets being shot by multiple players and barely lose 50% shields. Rocket telemetry, speed and flight path all needs a buff. Rockets are too weak, too slow, and very poor at tracking the target. I would much rather just have a rocket that shoots straight so I can lead the target and actually hit the damned thing. Right now, I have to wait for a lock on (wasting time) and then I watch as my rockets that fly so slow one is amazed that they stay in the air creep far behind the drop ship as the pilot leads them into walls and buildings with out much skill or effort. The drop ship should not be nerfed. The problem is the rockets imo. Right now the best way to take out a drop ship... is with another drop ship or tank. Once again the swarm launcher is impotent in being effective against a vehicle... which of course is it sole intended purpose. Hopefully CCP can fix this one pretty quick. ====================== Let me be clear. I don't think that one guy should be able to shoot down a Drop Ship with only one volley of swarm rockets. But if he is locked on with in 50m of the target... he should be able to land most of them on the drop ship. Right now it doesn't play out that way due to the almost ridiculously slow speed at which the rockets travel.
Buff the rockets, leave the drop ships alone. What u talking about a swarm missils tracking is horrendously wel u cant dodge them just out runthem then they send dropships for a whirl if they hit the pilot unexpectedly or just right to where u make the dropship crash. Swarms have enough dmg to eat through a well armored dropships tank most can take 3-4 shots befor going down or being in dire needs of repair. Yes a swarm missile is slow enough to where it cant match a dropships top speed but it takes a dropship a long time to go from a siting still hover to top speed then if u make a tight turn u lose ur sped and wam ur hit by a barrage of swarms thats built up over time. Dodging swarms are imposible and ive tried this i have actually flown straight over incomeing swarms so we are now heading in opposite directions which would cause most missels to lose a lock. My gunners then sit there in amazement as they watch the same missiles make a 90 degree turn and come straight back and ur telling me the tracking aint good enogh. As i see it forge guns are abusive to dropships as there a big ass gun ment to take on tanks shooting at a fly with pinpoint percision. Now should they be able to hit us yes but at full strength no im thinking for the forge gun we use somethng similer to eves falloff system. This will eather make it so when a forger is shooting beyond a given distance appropriate for there strength of gun the bullit begins to fall off its path in a random direction makeing them somewhat like a musket in terms of bullet dynamics. Or we could have the dmg decrease as the bullit travels further again hampering a forgers ability to place sniper shots from sniping distances that kill anyone in one shot. This could be explained as the los of plasma and energy over long ranges
Right, because the forge gun needs to be nerfed to the point of being unusable. Also, vehicles need to be able to last an entire round unopposed.
Reasoning like this makes me happy I am training forge guns. I love knocking dropships out of the sky, one shoting LAVS and ripping tanks apart who are single handedly holding my team at bay. Right now, forge guns are a good counter to vehicle pilots, who otherwise decimate enemy infantry. |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 07:55:00 -
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LOL
I wonder if any of the people who say dropships should be nerfed (and swarms buffed because of dropships) ever tried to fly. I run AV and I manage to solo a dropship. Unless the pilot stays in red zone for prolonged time he will die sooner or later, just use his damn blind zone. There is still no chance to solo a tank in this game, even now, swarms are laughable against them. But no, let's nerf the flying casket, because it can run.
Why do I call it that? Because I've killed few of them and recently I'm trying to master one. Sure, I can outrun swarms... unless you shoot me in the back during my sweep (not fly-through!), which is a 50/50 chance of flipping me or pushing me on nearby structures or slamming me in the ground. I shout for my people to jump ****, but we mostly get crushed anyway (low altitude jumps, lol). It's only militia, so it's like 200k a pop, no biggie. Oh, yeah, I can only get negative KDR while I pilot this thing, because for some reason tank pilot controls the main cannon and DS pilot can only be responsible for his/hers bladder. Best case scenario I go 0/0. A win button indeed. Oh, did you mean that it's a win button for my gunners? Sheeeeit, son, let's punish me then, good idea.
Also guys spamming with OB fired 3 successive strikes yesterday just to take me down and the third one worked -- I did not see that coming.
I just wonder why isn't everybody speccing into DS now, like it was in the tank world build. When tanks were a win button everybody specced into them. Is it because DS pilots can not pew pew? Or because single swarmer/forger/railgun operator can kill your vehicle before you notice where is fire coming from?
How about you either learn to run AV properly or hide from the vehicles, instead of breaking the game in another way? |
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The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.10.10 22:46:00 -
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just wait until forge guns show there heads again. we get no love |
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Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.10.10 22:50:00 -
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Gunner Needed wrote:just wait until forge guns show there heads again. we get no love
We're already here ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) |
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Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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slap26 wrote:i went with a forge gunning heavy on one of my alts and that thing is a dropship's worse nightmare guys guys, wait for people to skill up. This is only natural lol. Did you know AV gernades will hom in on a drop ship? Just climb a crazy tall ladder drop a nanohive and make that dropship down.
Plus putting a drop uplink on top of a building, and then spawning as a forge gun heavy? Classic.
In other words, ladders are the new counter to dropships. |
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Governor Odius
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.10.10 22:52:00 -
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Gotta love that infantry can now go higher than dropships. |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 23:00:00 -
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Forge guns kill dropships, swarm launchers keep them moving.
Seriously, people actually have trouble killing dropships now? Even with the new height ceiling?
People are so bad at life. |
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Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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This sounds a lot like the "nerf strafing" posts when it was really hit detection the whole time. LEAVE THE GAME BE UNTIL EVERYTHING IS IMPLEMEMTED! does anyone know what a webifier is? |
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The Southern Legion
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The Polish Hammer wrote:Gunner Needed wrote:just wait until forge guns show there heads again. we get no love We're already here ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
lol! but honestly my ship has 5000 on its shields, i dont even try to avoid single swarm gunners...until yesterday "oh here comes a swarm, ill just let it hit the bottom so I dont fly into the ground at 100 miles an hour" KA-BOOM! 1 load did at least 2500 damage. so spec your missiles dude, theres a BIG diffferance
Oh and dont bother with Forge guns they just dont work against us.................![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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Gunner Needed wrote:The Polish Hammer wrote:Gunner Needed wrote:just wait until forge guns show there heads again. we get no love We're already here ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) lol! but honestly my ship has 5000 on its shields, i dont even try to avoid single swarm gunners...until yesterday "oh here comes a swarm, ill just let it hit the bottom so I dont fly into the ground at 100 miles an hour" KA-BOOM! 1 load did at least 2500 damage. so spec your missiles dude, theres a BIG diffferance Oh and dont bother with Forge guns they just dont work against us................. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
I'll take that challenge. ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) |
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The Southern Legion
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The Polish Hammer wrote:Gunner Needed wrote:The Polish Hammer wrote:Gunner Needed wrote:just wait until forge guns show there heads again. we get no love We're already here ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) lol! but honestly my ship has 5000 on its shields, i dont even try to avoid single swarm gunners...until yesterday "oh here comes a swarm, ill just let it hit the bottom so I dont fly into the ground at 100 miles an hour" KA-BOOM! 1 load did at least 2500 damage. so spec your missiles dude, theres a BIG diffferance Oh and dont bother with Forge guns they just dont work against us................. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) I'll take that challenge. ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
*DAMN* |
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The Polish Hammer wrote:Gunner Needed wrote:The Polish Hammer wrote:Gunner Needed wrote:just wait until forge guns show there heads again. we get no love We're already here ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) lol! but honestly my ship has 5000 on its shields, i dont even try to avoid single swarm gunners...until yesterday "oh here comes a swarm, ill just let it hit the bottom so I dont fly into the ground at 100 miles an hour" KA-BOOM! 1 load did at least 2500 damage. so spec your missiles dude, theres a BIG diffferance Oh and dont bother with Forge guns they just dont work against us................. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) I'll take that challenge. ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) Right on my brother |
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Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.10.10 23:36:00 -
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Bad thread is bad.
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Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.10 23:38:00 -
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ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Thoughts anyone? Just another STB junkie everyone. There is still a future ahead for all of us... |
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ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Thoughts anyone? So, far, on none of my characters this build, have I seen someone use a dropship.
Assault rifles are the win button right now. |
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Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.11 01:23:00 -
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OMG! Look at that huge thing in the sky!
I shoot at it ALL THE TIME and it takes the ENTIRE MATCH to blow it up!
You really need to nerf that kittening kitten MCC, or this game will FAIL!!! |
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ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Thoughts anyone? Lol, no. Really cause I just played a guy who went 47-0 in the dropship and no could shoot him down LOL How was a pilot getting kills? |
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Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.11 05:15:00 -
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The only time I've seen a dropship this build, it died within minutes, and hid most of the time. I've never taken any damage from a dropship weapon, and am actually happy people are reporting them out there. Personally, I don't have that kind of money to throw away 1/2 a million isk or so for a couple minute joyride when I'm getting ~100k / match.
My swarm launcher is gathering dust.. bring back the vehicles. |
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Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Thoughts anyone? Lol, no. Really cause I just played a guy who went 47-0 in the dropship and no could shoot him down LOL How was a pilot getting kills?
this.
Answer - he wasn't.
And if Dropships act like Mobile MCU's in vehicles, he wasn't getting any SP for being a mobile spawn location either.
He got hella nerfed though. |
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ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.11 08:26:00 -
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he got kills for his gunners? |
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.10.11 10:18:00 -
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Buff swarm launcher rocket speed.
Leave drop ship specs and mechanics alone. |
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Doomheim
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Alldin Kan wrote:The Polish Hammer wrote:This is absolute crap. I mean no offense by that, but I can take out dropships just fine. You actually need people going after it (first off).
Secondly, why is no one considering the usefulness of the forge gun against dropships??? I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS! Not a lot of people got to use the skills for Forge Guns...
Yet |
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.10.11 12:19:00 -
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Lost 3 myrons so far because yes I'm an awful pilot and need to get good but also because every time the swarms punched me into the ground.
Ground + swarm kinetic physics > Any AV damage |
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Lost 3 myrons so far because yes I'm an awful pilot and need to get good but also because every time the swarms punched me into the ground.
Ground + swarm kinetic physics > Any AV damage
Fly in circles faster. |
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Thanks |
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ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.11 22:46:00 -
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Quick note on Drop Ship WP system.
There isn't one. Driver gets 35 points for vehichle assist. And it never changes. With out without squad orders. To protect ship, pilot, gunner, nothin. |
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Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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I have thoughts yeah,
Anti-Armor (starter) is vastly over powered.. Why grind to finally get a drop ship, ungodly skills needed, then ungodly ISK paid..The bare minimum Dropship with no armor shield or gun upgrades is 220k... Now go through several of these just learning to fly the thing.
Along comes some guy with no eye-hand coordination yet he has a anti armor gun which basically a monkey could lock it on ..release fire..and the damn thing is guided in with no skill to blow all the hard work out of the air..
Yes.. anti -Armor...IS VASTLY overpowered. |
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Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.11 23:46:00 -
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Before you go hating more on dropship pilots let me give you an idea of what it's like in this build:
Imagine you take a couple of your friends out partying one night. You buy a limo (dropship) and stock it with booze (missile launchers). If you are really nice to your buddies you buy them the expensive stuff (proto missile launchers).
Now you spend the evening driving them from bar to bar (target to target), but you are drinking soda because you are the designated driver. They are having a great time in the back while you drive around town without slowing down or stopping because the moment you do some jerk will come out and throw bottles at your limo and try to smash your windshiield.
You just drive along in boring circles avoiding obsticals. Your buddies in LAV's get to play Grand Theft Auto, from stealing a ride to killing pedestrians, but not you. You just keep driving in circles.
If your friends are having a particularly good time and annoying the neighborhood someone will eventually haul out a high caliber firearm (Forge Gun) and put several rounds through your engine block and destroy your limo.
You may get a small tip from your buddies, but you are out the price of your limo including any upgrades you put into it.
If you still think that piots are having too much fun just list your favorite weapon and I will make suggestions about how CCP can make that just as rewarding as flying a dropship. |
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IwillNameHim GEORGE
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.12 01:19:00 -
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I actually like the launchers in this build...Im pretty sure I outran a missile last build, so im perfectly content where things stand now |
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Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.10.12 01:31:00 -
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ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Thoughts anyone? Lol, no. Really cause I just played a guy who went 47-0 in the dropship and no could shoot him down LOL
that must have been me then :P |
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Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.10.12 04:36:00 -
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The answer to every problem, be it drop ships or anything: Forge Gun. |
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