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Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2012.10.05 04:42:00 -
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i have noticed numerous times when i am sniping other snipers on rocky maps that i will get a clean shot at one of them and fire at their ugly face and the shield animation happens as if i just hit them but they take no damage.
they just stand there eat the round a few times then they hit me in my face like it didn't phase them.
i filled out a bug report but i wanted to check to see if any other snipers are having the same thing happen.
also there is another sniper bug in certain areas that a sniper can duck behind completely and still fire out. i don't know if they fixed that because it was last build and i haven't encountered it yet because i am dealing with the no damage taken snipers.
how am i supposed to support my team when snipers are immune to damage |
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Keradil Ledeuxieme
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.10.05 06:26:00 -
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Got the "hit them but did no damage" bug today myself... It is incredibly frustrating |
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Sir Shoot-a-lot
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.05 06:29:00 -
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me too, in that same map, i had to make 23 shots until i got the guy down, feeling of acompplisment for not giving up tho lol |
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Xiree
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.05 06:36:00 -
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I believe some sheilds deflect blows that are not directly aimed at the enemy. I've also had times... I fired several shots, none of the blows even took hold or hit the shield. It would be as, the first shot hit them.. Gliff shield and gave sheild damage. They get frame on me and none of my shots can make contact.... IT weird or something.
If you shoot at them and their sheild doesn't fringe making that lil flicker. Something else is up. |
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grease man
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.05 06:42:00 -
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I have gotten this bug a few times. I have had the guys head dead in my scope pull that trigger shield gets hit but no damage to the player. Like I am shooting rubber bullets. Where is my sniper laser rifle lol. |
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Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2012.10.05 06:44:00 -
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yeah, it is extremely frustrating when i get the drop on others thanks to my profile and then i give away my position as i hit their face and it literally does nothing and i try again just to watch the stupid flicker and then i immediately go down as he hits my face. |
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Fasjh
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.05 11:18:00 -
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had this lots. idk if it's a range thing, would be nice to see a range to target along with all the other info we now get from scoping. my KD is kitten because of this, and I've practically stopped playing. |
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Nicol Bolas Planeswalker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:51:00 -
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Happens a lot. Almost completely stopped sniping because of this. |
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Wintars Boar
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.05 16:43:00 -
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1 in 3 shots I'd say encounter this. No fun |
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Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2012.10.05 18:01:00 -
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Fasjh wrote:had this lots. idk if it's a range thing, would be nice to see a range to target along with all the other info we now get from scoping. my KD is kitten because of this, and I've practically stopped playing. that is what i thought at first, but i was extreamly confident it isn't a range issue because i get sniped right after the failed to wound shots by the guy i was shooting.
it even happened on the same rock face i was on, i pointed my rifle at a clear shot of him crouching and he just staring at me as i fired 3 rounds into his face.
he was in AR range so it couldn't of been a range issue. |
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Anima Fletcher
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.05 19:07:00 -
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Yeah same problem here, got this bug in nearly every game. Idk if this problem has something to do with the hit detection or if it caused by lag. Are there some dev statements about this bug ?
Last time i sat on a mountain, my target stand completly still and i had clear vision, 4-5 shots and nothing happens (his shield flashed but no damage) but after i changed my position a bit i could hit him. Someone else got this ?
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Stzy514
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.05 19:34:00 -
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I don't feel like this is a bug - a shot of many hunders of meters is suppost to be difficult. Just because you think you have a perfect shot doesn't mean it's going to hit. Just because you have a red dot doesn't mean it's going to hit. A few times I've shot someone at a distance with the red dot turned blue as I pull the trigger, but got a hit anyway.
Now, that being said, I've also experienced this "issue", but I just look at it as the challenge of using a sniper rifle. Do I think the hit detection could be better - YES, but we all play by the same rules, so it is what it is - adapt and live with it. |
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Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.10.05 20:03:00 -
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This was a problem in the last build too, the reason that snipers tend to notice more is because they use single shot weapons. It does happen to other weapon types too but it's a lot harder to spot. |
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Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:49:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:This was a problem in the last build too, the reason that snipers tend to notice more is because they use single shot weapons. It does happen to other weapon types too but it's a lot harder to spot.
might be the same bug that caused grenades to be dudes or missiles would disappear for no reason.
Stzy514 wrote:I don't feel like this is a bug - a shot of many hunders of meters is suppost to be difficult. Just because you think you have a perfect shot doesn't mean it's going to hit. Just because you have a red dot doesn't mean it's going to hit. A few times I've shot someone at a distance with the red dot turned blue as I pull the trigger, but got a hit anyway.
if that was the case then there would be no shield reflect at all and as i said before this happens at medium range as well not at the mile long shots. |
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Enderr Wigginn
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.10.09 02:28:00 -
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I run into this a lot, until they fix it I have found if you stand up and side step you can hit them. |
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Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.09 03:09:00 -
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I would probably have many hundreds more of kills if I hadn't encountered this bug so many times. |
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Mo Gallas Gentralde
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.09 03:24:00 -
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I've seen this happen, for several builds now.
The core result of this is because your shots actually clip the rocks that you are sitting beside, or the rocks your enemy is sitting beside. What do I mean by that? Well the "Body" of a rock actually extends a slight distance beyond the edge of the visual, about a hands width or so if your character was measuring, and if you fire into this, your Playstatoin goes "oh that was a clean shot" so it plays the shield animation, but the server goes, "Nope, that hit the edge of the rock you were hiding behind." So when the other guy turns to shoot you, your head is sticking up beyond the edge of the invisible rock boundary and you get hit.
The only remedy for this is to move out of your hiding spot a tiny bit before firing. Also of note, sometimes the enemy's rock can block your bullets from hitting him, in that case you have to re position your shot to hit someplace else that looks exposed. |
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Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2012.10.09 04:13:00 -
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Mo Gallas Gentralde wrote:I've seen this happen, for several builds now.
The core result of this is because your shots actually clip the rocks that you are sitting beside, or the rocks your enemy is sitting beside. What do I mean by that? Well the "Body" of a rock actually extends a slight distance beyond the edge of the visual, about a hands width or so if your character was measuring, and if you fire into this, your Playstatoin goes "oh that was a clean shot" so it plays the shield animation, but the server goes, "Nope, that hit the edge of the rock you were hiding behind." So when the other guy turns to shoot you, your head is sticking up beyond the edge of the invisible rock boundary and you get hit.
The only remedy for this is to move out of your hiding spot a tiny bit before firing. Also of note, sometimes the enemy's rock can block your bullets from hitting him, in that case you have to re position your shot to hit someplace else that looks exposed.
that is why it's a bug and is causing problems for the gameplay and needs to be brought to the attention of the devs. |
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Allie-Chan
Pan-Galactic SDF
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Posted - 2012.10.09 06:36:00 -
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agreed, I've hit a few people multiple times from different locations with the same result.
the actual edges extend beyond what can be seen and it needs a fix. |
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Wintars Boar
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.09 16:04:00 -
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It could be the rick glitch described, but I've also had it with clear lines of fire, 250m they were standing I was on a hill side with no rock in front. Sometimes a side step helps, but not always |
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