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The Dragon Ascendant
Celtic Anarchy
101
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Posted - 2012.10.04 21:47:00 -
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Today, I am feeling disheartened. I wouldn't normally make a thread like this, but today I feel it's necessary, since every match I've had has been absolutely terrible.
Between joining every game half way through to find the enemy has already taken most of the objectives, before ultimately base raping us for the rest of the match, to the endless lag that is now so bad that even the announcer stutters on every word, all to get a measly 10k sp and 40k isk at best, I feel like I just can't do anything to get better, to level up or find the money to purchase better gear, and it's really getting me down.
I know I know, whine whine whine, but it's really not enjoyable when you join a game, take about 4 attempts at spawning in only to get shot immediately (once I swear I died before I had even spawned, due to the lag (thanks Tony Calif)), or when you start getting hit with constant OB spam whilst in your own spawn area andyou know you can't do anything about it, it just makes me think, "what's the point?", at which point I do what everyone else on the team seems to do and puts the controller down and waits in the spawn until the end of the match.
And then the score screen comes up and at least 2 or 3 people on the enemy team have about 20 kills and no deaths (and is usually named Jack Boost), with about twice the warpoints of anyone on our side. Then I just sigh, go back the merc quarters, morosely look over the skills I can't purchase with my crappy sp and the weapons and suits I can't afford with my empty wallet (and even if I had the funds, 1 death would probably render it all worthless anyway), before giving up and going back to play Borderlands instead, where I can have some fun.
Sorry, that got kinda depressing, duno what happened there. I didn't use to have this problem on the last build. I got that the game takes a while to skill up, but at least then I felt like I was making progress, slow as it was. Now it just all seems so.... pointless. |
Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.04 21:50:00 -
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whats really fun is it's going to be like that until the next build. |
Son of Belial
1
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Posted - 2012.10.04 21:52:00 -
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I have to admit I'm not feeling this build either. |
Ranger SnakeBlood
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
126
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Posted - 2012.10.04 21:53:00 -
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Strange as far as lag and frame rate goes its better for me on this build than last there has been the odd 5 minute lag spike with the AI speaker getting cut off for a match or 2, i find if the lag is that bad its possible it could be the internet somewhere between you and servor being clogged only way ive ever found to fix is to take a break play something else and try again tomorro. Good Luck getting better conection tho their is nothing more fustrating than dieng because the enemie is a few seconds ahead of you |
Government CheeseBurger
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
232
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Posted - 2012.10.04 21:54:00 -
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I agree. Soon can't come soon enough. CCP will make it right. |
RHYTHMIK Designs
BetaMax.
50
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Posted - 2012.10.04 21:58:00 -
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I feel your pain man |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:00:00 -
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I was about ready to quit and wait it out for the next build after a disastrous first day, but after getting used to the strafe speed, abandoning the scout class, and getting some passive skills back up a bit, I'm starting to not hate it as much. (I think having the A-listers thin out a bit after the first evening helped, too.)
Only ran into this famous lag once so far, but it got down to like 0.33 FPS for a while.
Try playing again at a different time to see if that helps reduce the lag and gankers. There is a lot to like about this build buried underneath all the awful bits.
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Son of Belial
1
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:00:00 -
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Ranger SnakeBlood wrote:Strange as far as lag and frame rate goes its better for me on this build than last there has been the odd 5 minute lag spike with the AI speaker getting cut off for a match or 2, i find if the lag is that bad its possible it could be the internet somewhere between you and servor being clogged only way ive ever found to fix is to take a break play something else and try again tomorro. Good Luck getting better conection tho their is nothing more fustrating than dieng because the enemie is a few seconds ahead of you I'm experiencing less lag and better hit detection this build, but with the jumping into to random games all the time, the strafe waddling, along with a couple of weird bugs, I haven't been participating in this build all that much. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:02:00 -
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I've got an infiltrator suit setup for redline situations. Low-sig w/ a drop uplink & a pistol it doubles as my first drop suit that I play in any match. I find the game to be much more fun when you walk up behind someone holding an ar or a sniper rifle & put a clip or two through the back of his facemask.
I've seen some substantial rewards come through (got 2 surya and 5 promethus as salvage in a match, and I've gotten a lot of high quality suit/weapon drops) to help offset the low ISK rewards...and complaining about the "low sp" is kind of like complaining that water contains less energy when measuring it in Celsius instead of Fahrenheit. Just because the numbers used to tick faster doesn't mean the water's going to boil any sooner. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:03:00 -
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I experienced all of these things, I feel your pain. Not important, but those were precision strikes, not orbital strikes. |
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Obama DAT
Doomheim
389
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:06:00 -
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I used to look forward to coming home from work and getting some games in. Now not so much. I have faith in CCP so I will continue testing for their sake. Here's to an improvement in gameplay in the next few weeks! |
jallukaa
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:08:00 -
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I agree with you. Ehhh it's so hard now to spare ISK on dropship with fitting when i earn each battle less then 30k ISK. Before there was much better with ISK rewards, before my avrage ISG gaining was 90K ISK each battle now my avrage ISK gaining is 20k ISK ehhh... |
Joey-Number1
Maniacal Miners INC The Omega Industries
32
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:10:00 -
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The Dragon Ascendant wrote:Today, I am feeling disheartened. I wouldn't normally make a thread like this, but today I feel it's necessary, since every match I've had has been absolutely terrible.
Between joining every game half way through to find the enemy has already taken most of the objectives, before ultimately base raping us for the rest of the match, to the endless lag that is now so bad that even the announcer stutters on every word, all to get a measly 10k sp and 40k isk at best, I feel like I just can't do anything to get better, to level up or find the money to purchase better gear, and it's really getting me down.
I know I know, whine whine whine, but it's really not enjoyable when you join a game, take about 4 attempts at spawning in only to get shot immediately (once I swear I died before I had even spawned, due to the lag (thanks Tony Calif)), or when you start getting hit with constant OB spam whilst in your own spawn area andyou know you can't do anything about it, it just makes me think, "what's the point?", at which point I do what everyone else on the team seems to do and puts the controller down and waits in the spawn until the end of the match.
And then the score screen comes up and at least 2 or 3 people on the enemy team have about 20 kills and no deaths (and is usually named Jack Boost), with about twice the warpoints of anyone on our side. Then I just sigh, go back the merc quarters, morosely look over the skills I can't purchase with my crappy sp and the weapons and suits I can't afford with my empty wallet (and even if I had the funds, 1 death would probably render it all worthless anyway), before giving up and going back to play Borderlands instead, where I can have some fun.
Sorry, that got kinda depressing, duno what happened there. I didn't use to have this problem on the last build. I got that the game takes a while to skill up, but at least then I felt like I was making progress, slow as it was. Now it just all seems so.... pointless.
You take it right out of my mind. I have to agree 100% with you. I wasnt making thread about it yet though. But I am thinking and experiencing same things as you, I love eve univers I love ccp but now with this build I have the need to said it too, these things you described are so frustrating that it makes me look on the forum for another hotfix or something... I even dont play the game now because theres really not a way how to advance in it right now.. no options basicly. I wanted to make money for one particular skill that cost 300k and I barely managed to cover my fittings resupplies from all day playing matches. ... What the heck.
And really all this changed in one build that adds a few things.. there was pretty much no problem with the last build only the nerf of the tanks was kinda bad.. but thats it.. now theres so much stuff that frustrates me... |
kellyn whiteheart
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
54
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:11:00 -
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i think they did fix a lot but there are some things that still need work and right now the SP farmers and constant orbital strikes or w/e beyond that i dont got much to complain about really. a few small odds and ends but its getting fixed. |
Foldenfly
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:12:00 -
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I feel ya, but a decent solution to this is to squad up with a group that will use it and learn those facets of the game. You will typically live longer and, if you follow squad leader commands, reap more SP.
It is proving to be a bit of a long haul situation in terms of getting SP and ISK, however. I used to think my gun game was decent, but not so much now. It's either that, or I'm in matches w/ groups that have a huge SP/skill advantage.
Or a mixture of both... |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:12:00 -
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at least this build looks pretty |
Khortez D
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:15:00 -
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The Dragon Ascendant wrote:Today, I am feeling disheartened. I wouldn't normally make a thread like this, but today I feel it's necessary, since every match I've had has been absolutely terrible.
Between joining every game half way through to find the enemy has already taken most of the objectives, before ultimately base raping us for the rest of the match, to the endless lag that is now so bad that even the announcer stutters on every word, all to get a measly 10k sp and 40k isk at best, I feel like I just can't do anything to get better, to level up or find the money to purchase better gear, and it's really getting me down.
I know I know, whine whine whine, but it's really not enjoyable when you join a game, take about 4 attempts at spawning in only to get shot immediately (once I swear I died before I had even spawned, due to the lag (thanks Tony Calif)), or when you start getting hit with constant OB spam whilst in your own spawn area andyou know you can't do anything about it, it just makes me think, "what's the point?", at which point I do what everyone else on the team seems to do and puts the controller down and waits in the spawn until the end of the match.
And then the score screen comes up and at least 2 or 3 people on the enemy team have about 20 kills and no deaths (and is usually named Jack Boost), with about twice the warpoints of anyone on our side. Then I just sigh, go back the merc quarters, morosely look over the skills I can't purchase with my crappy sp and the weapons and suits I can't afford with my empty wallet (and even if I had the funds, 1 death would probably render it all worthless anyway), before giving up and going back to play Borderlands instead, where I can have some fun.
Sorry, that got kinda depressing, duno what happened there. I didn't use to have this problem on the last build. I got that the game takes a while to skill up, but at least then I felt like I was making progress, slow as it was. Now it just all seems so.... pointless.
know the feeling
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Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:15:00 -
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I've barely touched this build tbh. Gameplay doesn't feel as good for me, you guys have explained the battle finder pretty well, and the new bugs have been keeping me out of matches. |
Vincam Velmoriar
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:55:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:I was about ready to quit and wait it out for the next build after a disastrous first day, but after getting used to the strafe speed, abandoning the scout class, and getting some passive skills back up a bit, I'm starting to not hate it as much. (I think having the A-listers thin out a bit after the first evening helped, too.)
Only ran into this famous lag once so far, but it got down to like 0.33 FPS for a while.
Try playing again at a different time to see if that helps reduce the lag and gankers. There is a lot to like about this build buried underneath all the awful bits.
This is why I'm not a fan of this build. I would like to play as a scout, but it doesn't make sense any more. I don't want to have to abandon any suit to have fun. I've enjoyed the heavy with this build and the assault, but not the scout. It doesn't have anything going for it to make up for its lack of armor/shields and limited PG/CPU. It's barely faster than the assault if you look at the numbers.
AR range is also too much. It's an automatic sniper rifle now.
I think (hope) CCP will fix it. Right now this is my least favorite build thus far (although it looks better and they fixed some bugs, and the new maps are great, etc). |
Ire's thug
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
272
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Posted - 2012.10.04 23:09:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:at least this build looks pretty
Haha! yeah now if only that really mattered as much as everything else. My friend is an EVE player and trolling me by saying: "haha! welcome to CCP this is how they operate! Every new build that comes out has a ton of new features but breaks the game.. In fact, its almost a race with the eve pilots to see who can find whats broken first but they eventually get around to fixing it".
That's actually a cool way to operate in my opinion but this may change depending on the speed at which they address these issues and THAT all depends on how thorough and speedy we are as beta testers. So lets compile the Sh*t out of these feedbacks and bug reports! |
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Ima Leet
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.10.04 23:14:00 -
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i too feel this build is a bit off. a lot of things are fixed and headed in the right direction, but some things just seem worse |
Asimov Black
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2012.10.04 23:47:00 -
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I feel the same way, I rage quit about an hour ago after being hit by 7 PS in a row then losing my good armor to a LAV running me over as I spawned. |
Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
205
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Posted - 2012.10.05 00:16:00 -
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Everything in this build is ok with me except for the isk nerf, and how there's orbital strike after orbital strike ,
I do love the new maps , the laser rifle is great even though up close it is terrible , I love the intro video and the tutorial video witch is amazing and I love player corps |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.10.05 01:12:00 -
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hoping thos is beta steps and we'll be ok by tuesday release
One issue is isk payment is based on if you are "in" the battle. But... what does that even mean? Do I get no isk for being a sniper? what about a logi? Shouldn't your drop links and kills with remote expolsives and such reset some of kind of "you are in battle" timer? |
Gus Miagi
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
11
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Posted - 2012.10.05 01:44:00 -
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The Dragon Ascendant wrote:Today, I am feeling disheartened. I wouldn't normally make a thread like this, but today I feel it's necessary, since every match I've had has been absolutely terrible.
Between joining every game half way through to find the enemy has already taken most of the objectives, before ultimately base raping us for the rest of the match, to the endless lag that is now so bad that even the announcer stutters on every word, all to get a measly 10k sp and 40k isk at best, I feel like I just can't do anything to get better, to level up or find the money to purchase better gear, and it's really getting me down.
I know I know, whine whine whine, but it's really not enjoyable when you join a game, take about 4 attempts at spawning in only to get shot immediately (once I swear I died before I had even spawned, due to the lag (thanks Tony Calif)), or when you start getting hit with constant OB spam whilst in your own spawn area andyou know you can't do anything about it, it just makes me think, "what's the point?", at which point I do what everyone else on the team seems to do and puts the controller down and waits in the spawn until the end of the match.
And then the score screen comes up and at least 2 or 3 people on the enemy team have about 20 kills and no deaths (and is usually named Jack Boost), with about twice the warpoints of anyone on our side. Then I just sigh, go back the merc quarters, morosely look over the skills I can't purchase with my crappy sp and the weapons and suits I can't afford with my empty wallet (and even if I had the funds, 1 death would probably render it all worthless anyway), before giving up and going back to play Borderlands instead, where I can have some fun.
Sorry, that got kinda depressing, duno what happened there. I didn't use to have this problem on the last build. I got that the game takes a while to skill up, but at least then I felt like I was making progress, slow as it was. Now it just all seems so.... pointless.
Yep getting all the same problems,
But you did save me having to write it all. Well done fella |
Malfearion
Jadablade Black Core Alliance
18
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Posted - 2012.10.05 01:44:00 -
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I feel the pain of this one as well, if you don't play 24/7 you get way behind quick, I stay with knowledge things will get better over time. some things I can addressed, Lag and hit detection, A new wireless router solved all my lag problems so if you are using wireless try going wired. if wired try updating your router firmware or get a new one. helped me a bunch. Sp and ISK ... well CCP you have your work cut out on that one for balancing. personally I like the EVE method of sp better (shush!!) on isk I do believe that an front line assault class should already have Caldari assaults suits to level 1 and not have to come up with 240K isk to purchase the skill book right off the bat ... well unless you plan to have each class with suits from each race with different pro's and cons. then I could see it having your race to level I ok I am rambling now. Stick with it guys CCP will fix it eventually
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NopeNopeNope
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.10.05 01:50:00 -
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The Dragon Ascendant wrote:Today, I am feeling disheartened. I wouldn't normally make a thread like this, but today I feel it's necessary, since every match I've had has been absolutely terrible.
Between joining every game half way through to find the enemy has already taken most of the objectives, before ultimately base raping us for the rest of the match, to the endless lag that is now so bad that even the announcer stutters on every word, all to get a measly 10k sp and 40k isk at best, I feel like I just can't do anything to get better, to level up or find the money to purchase better gear, and it's really getting me down.
I know I know, whine whine whine, but it's really not enjoyable when you join a game, take about 4 attempts at spawning in only to get shot immediately (once I swear I died before I had even spawned, due to the lag (thanks Tony Calif)), or when you start getting hit with constant OB spam whilst in your own spawn area andyou know you can't do anything about it, it just makes me think, "what's the point?", at which point I do what everyone else on the team seems to do and puts the controller down and waits in the spawn until the end of the match.
And then the score screen comes up and at least 2 or 3 people on the enemy team have about 20 kills and no deaths (and is usually named Jack Boost), with about twice the warpoints of anyone on our side. Then I just sigh, go back the merc quarters, morosely look over the skills I can't purchase with my crappy sp and the weapons and suits I can't afford with my empty wallet (and even if I had the funds, 1 death would probably render it all worthless anyway), before giving up and going back to play Borderlands instead, where I can have some fun.
Sorry, that got kinda depressing, duno what happened there. I didn't use to have this problem on the last build. I got that the game takes a while to skill up, but at least then I felt like I was making progress, slow as it was. Now it just all seems so.... pointless.
The game is a mediocre arena FPS right now, the gameplay is probably going to stay entirely mediocre. Wait until the grand strategy elements (never) arrive, then all your struggling will gain some meaning. |
Destheren Taichi
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.10.05 02:03:00 -
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I'm not really observant.. but I don't feel good about anything in this build, not even the new "pretty looks". I had some friends that got beta access whom I've been trying to get to play, but now I wouldn't even suggest it. I'll just do what I normally do when I ragequit something, pick it back up a day, week, or month later. |
RedBleach LeSanglant
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
136
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Posted - 2012.10.05 02:17:00 -
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Overall I'm satisfied with the build save for two points that have been brought up - spawn and spawn camping issues and then the Precision Strike/Orbital bombardment farming.
Some maps completely protect one sides spawns and leave the other open - not a way to play.
but, it'll all be fixed soon |
Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.10.05 02:23:00 -
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I am also having tons of problems with this build. I had a lot of issues in the previous one as well, but nothing of this scope and magnitude.
In the previous build, if I could manage to get in a match it was pretty playable (aside from annoying lag spikes and whatnot), but in this build, even if I manage to get in a game it seems about 70% of the time the game either starts out unplayable (frame-rate of 1 FPS or less) or the game is smooth at start, but steadily gets worse and worse, and by the end of the game I can barely move at all without absolutely crippling frame-rate problems.
Aside from the game-breaking frame-rate issues, there is a whole ton of other problems I have to deal with each and every night I play on the new build. Getting random disconnects, end-game scoreboard (or player list while in game) never showing up, being almost impossible to play with friends, squad invites never showing up, chat rooms not showing my and other peoples chats, getting the invalid label error, massive abuse of orbital/precision strikes, etc etc... the game is practically unplayable for me. In a given night of trying to play for ~4 hours, I might get 3 or 4 solid games in. |
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