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Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.10.04 19:29:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Public call outs in a beta are not really cool nor necessary.
Just saying. Why? Its not slander, it is truth. If you do it, expect to get called out. If you dont want to get called out dont do it. For every action, there is a reaction. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2012.10.04 20:08:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Public call outs in a beta are not really cool nor necessary.
Just saying.
Thats what I'm trying to say. Whose to say they arnt doing it to show CCP how broken the mechanic is? |
REGNUM CODEX DEI
46
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Posted - 2012.10.04 20:10:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Delta GAC (LAV driver) PIN0 CR7 (logistics) lino85 (squad leader)
Accelerating/reversing between buildings and calling in multiple orbital strikes.
EDIT: Before anyone asks why - I have posted up their names (and will be adding onto this list) for corporations to know who they are recruiting. If you don't want Boosters in your corporation, consider this is a way to knowing who they are.
ITs SANDBOX/ BETA chill out |
SYST3M 0V3RL0AD
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.10.04 21:28:00 -
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Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:Could add System Overload to the list too.
lol. Sure,add me to this list. I don't mind the notoriety! It's amusing to me that yesterday was the first time i spent any considerable amount of time on this and yet I've already earned a spot on this list. I was already capped beforehand and wasn't gaining any advantage. Check my rankings on the leaderboards and compare my stats to any of the actual boosters and you'll see a huge difference between someone that actually plays and someone that doesn't.
For the record though, those that have played with me know I do play the game 90% of the time. Unfortunately, I now hit the new SP cap very quickly from actual gameplay, so yes, you may see me goofing off in various ways boosting, bug hunting, exploring the map, etc.. If a game consists of an entire team of mentally challenged blue dots without mics, yep, i'll probably wander off and screw around to save myself the frustration.
I don't particularly care a for ignorant people, so throw your judgements around recklessly if you wish. I'll just and . Next time you see me doing something unusual, send me a game mail and ask what i'm up to. Join me, even. Find out why i'm actually doing it before passing your ill-informed judgement.
This is all.
Note: It's not slander if you get your facts straight. If you falsely accuse someone of foul-play without an actual understanding of their actions, that is indeed slander. |
Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
202
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Posted - 2012.10.04 21:34:00 -
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While I'm all for pointing out the worst offenders (those who do it exclusively to the detriment of their team mates) this shouldn't be a witch hunt where anyone and everyone who so muchs as dings their own LAV gets labeled. It is still a beta. However, find an exploit, report it, move on, don't sit in the corner abusing it all day every day. Not saying you have System, rather this post is in part defensive of you to a certain degree. |
SYST3M 0V3RL0AD
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.10.04 21:52:00 -
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Illuminaughty-696 wrote:While I'm all for pointing out the worst offenders (those who do it exclusively to the detriment of their team mates) this shouldn't be a witch hunt where anyone and everyone who so muchs as dings their own LAV gets labeled. It is still a beta. However, find an exploit, report it, move on, don't sit in the corner abusing it all day every day. Not saying you have System, rather this post is in part defensive of you to a certain degree.
Agreed. It's extremely obvious to see who is abusing it and who is not. Yet this numbnuts chose to call me out. I've got plenty of opinions on the topic with various points and counter-points but it's just not worth debating. I don't even really need to defend my actions, most people know what i'm about. It's just ridiculous that with the hours I put in and play legitimately and fairly, a guy I've never heard of before picks me out of the herd to point a finger at. There are far worse criminals than I to be worried about. |
RHYTHMIK Designs
BetaMax.
50
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Posted - 2012.10.04 21:55:00 -
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The problem is not some much the boosting, but the OS spam that comes with it. If someone is boosting on their own in a corner somewhere is one thing, but to do it and be rewarded w/ something that changes the outcome of a match is different. |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.10.04 21:56:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Nova Knife wrote:Public call outs in a beta are not really cool nor necessary.
Just saying. Thats what I'm trying to say. Whose to say they arnt doing it to show CCP how broken the mechanic is? Whatever helps you sleep at night, but its a known issue. Half the forum posts are about it, so nobody is buying that lame excuse anymore. |
VirtualxBucaneer
ROGUE SPADES
44
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:01:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Delta GAC (LAV driver) PIN0 CR7 (logistics) lino85 (squad leader)
Accelerating/reversing between buildings and calling in multiple orbital strikes.
EDIT: Before anyone asks why - I have posted up their names (and will be adding onto this list) for corporations to know who they are recruiting. If you don't want Boosters in your corporation, consider this is a way to knowing who they are.
I know those guys, but I don't play with them regularly. It's a shame I didn't know they were doing that, I will talk to them, Aeon Amadi. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:03:00 -
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VirtualxBucaneer wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Delta GAC (LAV driver) PIN0 CR7 (logistics) lino85 (squad leader)
Accelerating/reversing between buildings and calling in multiple orbital strikes.
EDIT: Before anyone asks why - I have posted up their names (and will be adding onto this list) for corporations to know who they are recruiting. If you don't want Boosters in your corporation, consider this is a way to knowing who they are. I know those guys, but I don't play with them regularly. It's a shame I didn't know they were doing that, I will talk to them, Aeon Amadi. Its boosting there's no need for an intervention, they aren't crackheads. |
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Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
202
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:07:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:VirtualxBucaneer wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Delta GAC (LAV driver) PIN0 CR7 (logistics) lino85 (squad leader)
Accelerating/reversing between buildings and calling in multiple orbital strikes.
EDIT: Before anyone asks why - I have posted up their names (and will be adding onto this list) for corporations to know who they are recruiting. If you don't want Boosters in your corporation, consider this is a way to knowing who they are. I know those guys, but I don't play with them regularly. It's a shame I didn't know they were doing that, I will talk to them, Aeon Amadi. Its boosting there's no need for an intervention, they aren't crackheads.
Interestingly, on a lighter note, boosting does sound drug related, and boosters sound like drug users. Anyway, sorry, back to angry time. |
VirtualxBucaneer
ROGUE SPADES
44
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:10:00 -
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I see. |
SYST3M 0V3RL0AD
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:18:00 -
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RHYTHMIK Designs wrote:The problem is not some much the boosting, but the OS spam that comes with it. If someone is boosting on their own in a corner somewhere is one thing, but to do it and be rewarded w/ something that changes the outcome of a match is different.
That's a valid thought and OB's can indeed affect a game. But the large majority of the time when people are boosting, that team loses. I can guarantee if you were on the other side you'd much rather 4 competent players screwing around somewhere instead of being on the battlefield in your face. Even if they called in Orbitals, you still wouldn't be as hindered as you would if they were playing. They would affect the battle far more on the battlefield than any number of Orbitals could. The orbitals are annoying, but keep in mind, it's not hard to obtain a large amount of Orbitals through actual gameplay. I have many times be leader of a squad that obtained Orbitals every 2-3 minutes legitimately playing the game. That is on par with some boosters. The Orbitals need balancing in general , not just because they are a byproduct of boosting and rewarding cheaters.
Sorry to get off topic and go off into left field about Orbitals. What were we discussing here?
Oh yea...
BURN THE BOOSTERS!!!
To better aid in the witch hunt, here's a proven method of identifying those witches....or....boosters. |
SYST3M 0V3RL0AD
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:30:00 -
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Furthermore, you should be far more concerned with the concept that the boosters are hitting their new SP cap immediately, which allows them to skill up before everyone and potentially kill you more for the duration of the week until the cap is reset, and they again hit the cap immediately, skill up immediately, and kill you even more. Over time, some player may not hit their cap every week for lack of time to play. The boosters *always* hit theirs every week. They are also banking millions of ISK since they are not spending any on suits per game. In the beginning (now) the affects are negligible. In the long term,however, they will absolutely be ahead of everyone else in SP and have an unfair advantage. They will have far higher skill levels and have an absurd amount of expendable ISK. Most people are so focused on the Orbitals or these people being ranked highly on the leaderboards, or causing their team to lose,or pointing out their lame W/L ratio, but secretly they are laughing at you because they ARE gaining a huge advantage in the long run and that is what everyone should be concerned about here. Open your eyes to the bigger picture, folks. |
Foldenfly
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:41:00 -
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It's also important to note that the OBs will not always be in our hands, if I am interpreting CCP correctly. Down the line, OBs will be called in by Dusters who are communicating to the EvE corp who contracted them. They will be launched from ships in orbit over the planet. The real question in that event is how many orbitals can those ships launch, how frequently, and can more than one ship launch them at a time? |
SYST3M 0V3RL0AD
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:46:00 -
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Foldenfly wrote:It's also important to note that the OBs will not always be in our hands, if I am interpreting CCP correctly. Down the line, OBs will be called in by Dusters who are communicating to the EvE corp who contracted them. They will be launched from ships in orbit over the planet. The real question in that event is how many orbitals can those ships launch, how frequently, and can more than one ship launch them at a time?
Indeed. They did test the OB dust/eve interaction on Buckingham recently. So, my guess is that will be coming in sooner than later. I do believe Orbitals will be far more rare when that happens. Right now the orbitals are annoying so people QQ about it. That should be the least of their concerns though and it will be when all of these boosters are running protogear nonstop and spamming high end vehicles. |
Foldenfly
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:58:00 -
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SYST3M 0V3RL0AD wrote:Foldenfly wrote:It's also important to note that the OBs will not always be in our hands, if I am interpreting CCP correctly. Down the line, OBs will be called in by Dusters who are communicating to the EvE corp who contracted them. They will be launched from ships in orbit over the planet. The real question in that event is how many orbitals can those ships launch, how frequently, and can more than one ship launch them at a time? Indeed. They did test the OB dust/eve interaction on Buckingham recently. So, my guess is that will be coming in sooner than later. I do believe Orbitals will be far more rare when that happens. Right now the orbitals are annoying so people QQ about it. That should be the least of their concerns though and it will be when all of these boosters are running protogear nonstop and spamming high end vehicles.
Yeah, I know and agree. You had commented earlier that you don't see much of a difference as of yet, but I have personally seen my gun game go to shite this build (if that could be possible over the last build). I could just suck, or I could be getting dropped into matches were the SP ratio discrepancy is already apparent. Could honestly go either way, but I do think the "grinders" (not to mention the boosters) already have a huge advantage. Add the Aurum/Active Boost aspect to the mix, and that advantage will continue to rocket forward.
Not attacking grinders, as they have usually earned and deserve their advantage over those of us who only play a few hours a day at most. I'm just pointing out there are legitimate players out there who have earned their advantage, in addition to the boosters. |
WhoShotcha79
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
0
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Posted - 2012.10.04 23:04:00 -
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SYST3M 0V3RL0AD wrote:Foldenfly wrote:It's also important to note that the OBs will not always be in our hands, if I am interpreting CCP correctly. Down the line, OBs will be called in by Dusters who are communicating to the EvE corp who contracted them. They will be launched from ships in orbit over the planet. The real question in that event is how many orbitals can those ships launch, how frequently, and can more than one ship launch them at a time? Indeed. They did test the OB dust/eve interaction on Buckingham recently. So, my guess is that will be coming in sooner than later. I do believe Orbitals will be far more rare when that happens. Right now the orbitals are annoying so people QQ about it. That should be the least of their concerns though and it will be when all of these boosters are running protogear nonstop and spamming high end vehicles.
agreed system, its anoying now but it will be downright game breaking later on when these players are non stop proto spaming and tanked marauders spamming all game every game. |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.10.04 23:14:00 -
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WhoShotcha79 wrote:SYST3M 0V3RL0AD wrote:Foldenfly wrote:It's also important to note that the OBs will not always be in our hands, if I am interpreting CCP correctly. Down the line, OBs will be called in by Dusters who are communicating to the EvE corp who contracted them. They will be launched from ships in orbit over the planet. The real question in that event is how many orbitals can those ships launch, how frequently, and can more than one ship launch them at a time? Indeed. They did test the OB dust/eve interaction on Buckingham recently. So, my guess is that will be coming in sooner than later. I do believe Orbitals will be far more rare when that happens. Right now the orbitals are annoying so people QQ about it. That should be the least of their concerns though and it will be when all of these boosters are running protogear nonstop and spamming high end vehicles. agreed system, its anoying now but it will be downright game breaking later on when these players are non stop proto spaming and tanked marauders spamming all game every game. The OB spam is symptomatic of the sp farming. I agree other issues besides OB spam will present themselves. |
miahus
CrimeWave Syndicate
78
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Posted - 2012.10.05 08:54:00 -
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I just had a game where oliver oakes and jack the r1pper were boosting. I got my lav and ruined their set up. instead of going out and shooting red dots, jack the r1pper got in his lav and started team killing our entire team. here is my list so far OLIVER OAKES LISA MICHELLE LITTLE ANGUS JACK THE R1PPER ridgeway simper fi |
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JACK THE R1PPER
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
84
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Posted - 2012.10.05 09:03:00 -
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MWAAH HA HAA
You know what that was way more fun
HTFU This is EVE Welcome to New Eden.
Mess with me and prepare to meet JACK. |
JACK THE R1PPER
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
84
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Posted - 2012.10.05 09:10:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:ICECREAMKONG wrote:Ahhhhh. If I only had a tortoise for every fish. I like how you went 0-1 and had 6969 wp. last night.
lol....... Good for you genius, well done. |
Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.10.05 09:20:00 -
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SYST3M 0V3RL0AD wrote:Illuminaughty-696 wrote:While I'm all for pointing out the worst offenders (those who do it exclusively to the detriment of their team mates) this shouldn't be a witch hunt where anyone and everyone who so muchs as dings their own LAV gets labeled. It is still a beta. However, find an exploit, report it, move on, don't sit in the corner abusing it all day every day. Not saying you have System, rather this post is in part defensive of you to a certain degree. Agreed. It's extremely obvious to see who is abusing it and who is not. Yet this numbnuts chose to call me out. I've got plenty of opinions on the topic with various points and counter-points but it's just not worth debating. I don't even really need to defend my actions, most people know what i'm about. It's just ridiculous that with the hours I put in and play legitimately and fairly, a guy I've never heard of before picks me out of the herd to point a finger at. There are far worse criminals than I to be worried about.
So it shouldnt be illegal to rob a small amount? Shouldnt be illegal to assault someone if you dont hurt them too much?
Whilst you may not have boosted much you still boosted knowing it was wrong which IMO is just as bad as someone boosting all day.
The only positive is atleast you're showing remorse so there is hope for you yet!!!!! |
JACK THE R1PPER
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
84
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Posted - 2012.10.05 09:44:00 -
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SYST3M 0V3RL0AD wrote:Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:Could add System Overload to the list too. lol. Sure,add me to this list. I don't mind the notoriety! It's amusing to me that yesterday was the first time i spent any considerable amount of time on this and yet I've already earned a spot on this list. I was already capped beforehand and wasn't gaining any advantage. Check my rankings on the leaderboards and compare my stats to any of the actual boosters and you'll see a huge difference between someone that actually plays and someone that doesn't. For the record though, those that have played with me know I do play the game 90% of the time. Unfortunately, I now hit the new SP cap very quickly from actual gameplay, so yes, you may see me goofing off in various ways boosting, bug hunting, exploring the map, etc.. If a game consists of an entire team of mentally challenged blue dots without mics, yep, i'll probably wander off and screw around to save myself the frustration. I don't particularly care a for ignorant people, so throw your judgements around recklessly if you wish. I'll just and . Next time you see me doing something unusual, send me a game mail and ask what i'm up to. Join me, even. Find out why i'm actually doing it before passing your ill-informed judgement. This is all. Note: It's not slander if you get your facts straight. If you falsely accuse someone of foul-play without an actual understanding of their actions, that is indeed slander.
kthxbai |
Fasjh
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.10.05 10:06:00 -
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SLEEPY -1 wrote:confirmed grasses ^^^ do you want people like this in your corp
ahhh yes, the insult that the guilty use to defend themselves when caught. there is nothing wrong with "grassing", if you're a kitten, then you should expect to be grassed, it's what keeps the whole planet on a level moral playing field.
that is all |
JACK THE R1PPER
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
84
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Posted - 2012.10.05 10:13:00 -
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Fasjh wrote:SLEEPY -1 wrote:confirmed grasses ^^^ do you want people like this in your corp ahhh yes, the insult that the guilty use to defend themselves when caught. there is nothing wrong with "grassing", if you're a kitten, then you should expect to be grassed, it's what keeps the whole planet on a level moral playing field. that is all
WOW....................... Being a grass is ok ?
I hope you never go to prison sonny. You have a lot to learn about life.
I would say ask your friends but you probably don't have any, they're probably waiting to get out and shank you. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.10.05 10:23:00 -
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Why are you guys trying to discourage them from exploiting this?
The more it gets misused, the more orbital strikes get called, the quicker and harder CCP will swing the nerfbat. |
Fasjh
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.10.05 10:23:00 -
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JACK THE R1PPER wrote:Fasjh wrote:SLEEPY -1 wrote:confirmed grasses ^^^ do you want people like this in your corp ahhh yes, the insult that the guilty use to defend themselves when caught. there is nothing wrong with "grassing", if you're a kitten, then you should expect to be grassed, it's what keeps the whole planet on a level moral playing field. that is all WOW....................... Being a grass is ok ? I hope you never go to prison sonny. You have a lot to learn about life. I would say ask your friends but you probably don't have any, they're probably waiting to get out and shank you.
yes, being a grass is fine. I hope I never go to prison, but then, I don't do anything illegal, so why would I end up in a cess pit with the lowest forms of life? don't call me sonny, I'm no relation to you (thank the gods) and you don't know me. I have plenty of friends, and none of them would consider shanking anyone, if your friends are like that maybe you should reconsider who you hang around with? I've already learned plenty about life; mostly how it's full of kittens and tards who will just kitten you over for a few dollars/quid. |
Fasjh
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.10.05 10:28:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Why are you guys trying to discourage them from exploiting this?
The more it gets misused, the more orbital strikes get called, the quicker and harder CCP will swing the nerfbat.
because what they are doing is poor beta testing, actually it isn't testing at all, they are just exploiting a known loophole. beta testing isn't a badge of honour, it's what good gamers do to try and make games better, if you don't want to test, kitten off somewhere where you can exploit and kill n00bs. |
JACK THE R1PPER
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
84
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Posted - 2012.10.05 10:29:00 -
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Fasjh wrote:JACK THE R1PPER wrote:Fasjh wrote:SLEEPY -1 wrote:confirmed grasses ^^^ do you want people like this in your corp ahhh yes, the insult that the guilty use to defend themselves when caught. there is nothing wrong with "grassing", if you're a kitten, then you should expect to be grassed, it's what keeps the whole planet on a level moral playing field. that is all WOW....................... Being a grass is ok ? I hope you never go to prison sonny. You have a lot to learn about life. I would say ask your friends but you probably don't have any, they're probably waiting to get out and shank you. yes, being a grass is fine. I hope I never go to prison, but then, I don't do anything illegal, so why would I end up in a cess pit with the lowest forms of life? don't call me sonny, I'm no relation to you (thank the gods) and you don't know me. I have plenty of friends, and none of them would consider shanking anyone, if your friends are like that maybe you should reconsider who you hang around with? I've already learned plenty about life; mostly how it's full of kittens and tards who will just kitten you over for a few dollars/quid.
LOL.............. Whatever SONNY.
I'd shank you just for talking such utter garbage. |
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