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Smoke2Bowls
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:29:00 -
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Two hard freezes mid game in a row. Is it from flying? Look into this **** like now before you completely break my ps3.
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KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:44:00 -
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I was playing yesterday and mu PS3 just shut off mid game all on its own. I've never had that happen before with another game. |
Smoke2Bowls
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
93
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:48:00 -
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If CCP Lets this get any worse. OR just lets the minor ones like this continue ANY longer than they are gonna have law suits on their hands for droppin people $300 systems. |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:56:00 -
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Smoke2Bowls wrote:If CCP Lets this get any worse. OR just lets the minor ones like this continue ANY longer than they are gonna have law suits on their hands for droppin people $300 systems. You know that you agreed to the possibility of system harm when you play this beta. Your threats of lawsuits are hollow. |
Smoke2Bowls
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
93
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:01:00 -
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I mean im not sue'in **** but i can see some1 trying because thier ps3 got trashed. Im not trying to threaten, im trying to see if CCP cares at all if their players are not only losing plenty of money ingame to bugs but they have the real possibilty of losing a lot of real money. Does CCP care about its player base? Id like to see a dev comment on this with a little concern. Not the answer to the simplest question in a thread. |
Loss Tovas
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
236
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:10:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Smoke2Bowls wrote:If CCP Lets this get any worse. OR just lets the minor ones like this continue ANY longer than they are gonna have law suits on their hands for droppin people $300 systems. You know that you agreed to the possibility of system harm when you play this beta. Your threats of lawsuits are hollow.
If you aren't a lawyer than your legal opinion on contract law is meaningless. |
Smoke2Bowls
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
93
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:13:00 -
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Smoke2Bowls wrote:I mean im not sue'in **** but i can see some1 trying because thier ps3 got trashed. Im not trying to threaten, im trying to see if CCP cares at all if their players are not only losing plenty of money ingame to bugs but they have the real possibilty of losing a lot of real money. Does CCP care about its player base? Id like to see a dev comment on this with a little concern. Not the answer to the simplest question in a thread.
Did you forget to read this one guy? |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:16:00 -
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Loss Tovas wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Smoke2Bowls wrote:If CCP Lets this get any worse. OR just lets the minor ones like this continue ANY longer than they are gonna have law suits on their hands for droppin people $300 systems. You know that you agreed to the possibility of system harm when you play this beta. Your threats of lawsuits are hollow. If you aren't a lawyer than your legal opinion on contract law is meaningless. I didnt draw up the agreement, lawyers did. I am sure they did it airtight, but I am sure though that a guy named smoke2bowls will win a lawsuit against SONY and their army of lawyers. |
Loss Tovas
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
236
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:19:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote: I didnt draw up the agreement, lawyers did. I am sure they did it airtight, but I am sure though that a guy named smoke2bowls will win a lawsuit against SONY and their army of lawyers.
Like I said, your opinion is meaningless if you aren't a lawyer that specializes in contract law. Your reply doesn't change that. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:20:00 -
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Iv'e had this **** kill 2 of my mics already too :( don't know how or why, but it has |
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Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:21:00 -
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Loss Tovas wrote:Jin Robot wrote: I didnt draw up the agreement, lawyers did. I am sure they did it airtight, but I am sure though that a guy named smoke2bowls will win a lawsuit against SONY and their army of lawyers.
Like I said, your opinion is meaningless if you aren't a lawyer that specializes in contract law. Your reply doesn't change that. I am not a plumber either, but I know how a toilet works. |
Loss Tovas
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:21:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote: I am not a plumber either, but I know how a toilet works.
Because there is a BAR exam for plumbing...
ETA: Oh wait, you are being serious. Let me laugh harder. |
Smoke2Bowls
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:22:00 -
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Ok well after you come fix my toilet you can come over and brief me on everylaw that has anything to deal with contracts. I expect to win this case sense you know so much.... lol |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:23:00 -
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Good luck with your lawsuit and tears |
Loss Tovas
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
236
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:25:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Good luck with your lawsuit and tears
OMG LOOK GUYZ I TROLL THEM!!!! |
miahus
CrimeWave Syndicate
78
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:26:00 -
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you have no idea how bad the standard hard drive on the ps3 is. I recommend getting a better hard drive for your ps3, and if you can afford it, get a solid state drive, makes a world of difference. |
Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
324
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:26:00 -
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When I get bored at work I can always count on the dust forums giving me something to laugh about. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:28:00 -
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miahus wrote:you have no idea how bad the standard hard drive on the ps3 is. I recommend getting a better hard drive for your ps3, and if you can afford it, get a solid state drive, makes a world of difference.
what does the hard drive have to do with this? |
WiZdomTooTh
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:28:00 -
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Meh, I'll just buy a couple of back up PS3's.....jic. |
Smoke2Bowls
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
93
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:31:00 -
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Hahaha the forums are the best. Im sitting here watchin some Bob Marley documentary Enjoying this thread. |
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:33:00 -
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Stating that this is damaging PS3's should not be met with "Herp Derp, read the EULA!". The fact is this is doing some pretty serious damage in some cases.
Myself I've had this particular build make my PS3 shut off due to over-heating, it never happened last build or any of the previous ones. Now it wont last being on more than 5 minute without resetting itself and going into shutdown. The fact is that this build it has something beyond game breaking in it.
Have you seriously not noticed the massive frame drops and audio stuttering after playing a while?. I regular see 3 different people with different playstations all suffering this issue.
You can say "It's a beta!" or any crap that relates to the EULA. The fact is it is DAMAGING SYSTEMS by straining them to breaking and overheat point.
Pointing this out should not be met with cries of you read the law now deal with it. Are you all that mental not to realise that there's actually an issue here?.
I don't want money back I know what I signed up to, but there's definately an issue this build and I'm pretty sure it's to do with that skirmish map that should've been removed last build, not tweaked and put back in. |
Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
324
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:34:00 -
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Dust basically uses the hard drive as a big swap file, since the PS3 is lacking in RAM. If your drive is slow, then it takes longer to load assets. It wouldn't be surprising if the crashes were being caused by inefficient caching of resources. Usually when I lock up I'm zoomed in on something when it explodes, or some other situation when a new piece of artwork is being loaded / presented. |
miahus
CrimeWave Syndicate
78
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:34:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:miahus wrote:you have no idea how bad the standard hard drive on the ps3 is. I recommend getting a better hard drive for your ps3, and if you can afford it, get a solid state drive, makes a world of difference. what does the hard drive have to do with this? your game is intalled on your hard drive, it has everything to do with it. |
WiZdomTooTh
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:35:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:miahus wrote:you have no idea how bad the standard hard drive on the ps3 is. I recommend getting a better hard drive for your ps3, and if you can afford it, get a solid state drive, makes a world of difference. what does the hard drive have to do with this? What is this "hard drive" you are referring to? Crazy talk. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:35:00 -
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Smoke2Bowls wrote:I mean im not sue'in ****...
Really?
Smoke2Bowls wrote:...OR just lets the minor ones like this continue ANY longer than they are gonna have law suits on their hands for droppin people $300 systems.
What the frakk do you call this then?
None of those threats of lawsuits is going to happen. Every player should know by now that beta testing entails risks to hardware. If you don't get that concept, then get out of Dust Beta. In fact, get out of beta testing of any game in general because that's just the way it is. People have reported seeing their PS3 consoles locking up to the point of physical damage from just beta testing MASS EFFECT games and that is just one example. Were the developers sued for that? No. The beta testers agreed to the risks.
Enough said. |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:39:00 -
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The bottom line is that the risks are not hidden, if you dont want to take the risk dont test the beta. Coming on the forums talking lawsuits is childish. |
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:40:00 -
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It's obviously nothing to do with the HDD if you ask me, it's not corruption or dataloss. It's blatantly straining components and over heating them if you ask me.
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Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:43:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Smoke2Bowls wrote:I mean im not sue'in ****... Really? Smoke2Bowls wrote:...OR just lets the minor ones like this continue ANY longer than they are gonna have law suits on their hands for droppin people $300 systems. What the frakk do you call this then? None of those threats of lawsuits is going to happen. Every player should know by now that beta testing entails risks to hardware. If you don't get that concept, then get out of Dust Beta. In fact, get out of beta testing of any game in general because that's just the way it is. People have reported seeing their PS3 consoles locking up to the point of physical damage from just beta testing MASS EFFECT games and that is just one example. Were the developers sued for that? No. The beta testers agreed to the risks. Enough said.
he said people , not his 300$ system.. therefore meaning others will sue.. genius
They do compensate 50$ if they happen to fry your ****. They know it has been making some peoples systems run way to hard, more then they were designed to. It has been reported for awhile, and needs to continue being reported.. because guess what happens when beta is gone and this occurs again but to wayyyyy more people.. guess what it is.. cmon now, just 1 guess... LAWSUIT.. so troll elsewhere and let people express thier concerns |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:47:00 -
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:It's obviously nothing to do with the HDD if you ask me, it's not corruption or dataloss. It's blatantly straining components and over heating them if you ask me.
Thats what I was thinking aswell, but some guy a few posts above said they trying someting different with the hdd to work with the offset from ****** RAM.. Not sure how the hell they pull this off, but it's not my field anyhow.. so I shouldn't know lol |
Smoke2Bowls
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
93
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:48:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Smoke2Bowls wrote:I mean im not sue'in ****... Really? Smoke2Bowls wrote:...OR just lets the minor ones like this continue ANY longer than they are gonna have law suits on their hands for droppin people $300 systems. What the frakk do you call this then? None of those threats of lawsuits is going to happen. Every player should know by now that beta testing entails risks to hardware. If you don't get that concept, then get out of Dust Beta. In fact, get out of beta testing of any game in general because that's just the way it is. People have reported seeing their PS3 consoles locking up to the point of physical damage from just beta testing MASS EFFECT games and that is just one example. Were the developers sued for that? No. The beta testers agreed to the risks. Enough said. he said people , not his 300$ system.. therefore meaning others will sue.. genius They do compensate 50$ if they happen to fry your ****. They know it has been making some peoples systems run way to hard, more then they were designed to. It has been reported for awhile, and needs to continue being reported.. because guess what happens when beta is gone and this occurs again but to wayyyyy more people.. guess what it is.. cmon now, just 1 guess... LAWSUIT.. so troll elsewhere and let people express thier concerns
Thank god some1 else pointed that out before i had to. But like i said earlier, im enjoying the trolls. Some are funny.
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Loss Tovas
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
236
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:50:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:The bottom line is that the risks are not hidden, if you dont want to take the risk dont test the beta. Coming on the forums talking lawsuits is childish.
Interesting, I am of the opinion that it is childish to believe you are powerless simply because some one said so. |
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2012.10.04 17:25:00 -
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Loss Tovas wrote:Interesting, I am of the opinion that it is childish to believe you are powerless simply because some one said so.
If only more people thought like this, perhaps more big companies wouldn't walk all over their consumers. |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2012.10.04 17:44:00 -
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:Stating that this is damaging PS3's should not be met with "Herp Derp, read the EULA!". The fact is this is doing some pretty serious damage in some cases.
Myself I've had this particular build make my PS3 shut off due to over-heating, it never happened last build or any of the previous ones. Now it wont last being on more than 5 minute without resetting itself and going into shutdown. The fact is that this build it has something beyond game breaking in it.
Have you seriously not noticed the massive frame drops and audio stuttering after playing a while?. I regular see 3 different people with different playstations all suffering this issue.
You can say "It's a beta!" or any crap that relates to the EULA. The fact is it is DAMAGING SYSTEMS by straining them to breaking and overheat point.
Pointing this out should not be met with cries of you read the law now deal with it. Are you all that mental not to realise that there's actually an issue here?.
I don't want money back I know what I signed up to, but there's definately an issue this build and I'm pretty sure it's to do with that skirmish map that should've been removed last build, not tweaked and put back in.
I'm pretty sure my problem was an overheating issue as well. I haven't turned it back on since but I hope it isn't damaged! |
J0hlss0n
Doomheim
30
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Posted - 2012.10.04 17:55:00 -
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KripnawtiQ Prime wrote:I was playing yesterday and mu PS3 just shut off mid game all on its own. I've never had that happen before with another game.
Same here. |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
172
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Posted - 2012.10.04 20:17:00 -
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:Stating that this is damaging PS3's should not be met with "Herp Derp, read the EULA!". The fact is this is doing some pretty serious damage in some cases.
Myself I've had this particular build make my PS3 shut off due to over-heating, it never happened last build or any of the previous ones. Now it wont last being on more than 5 minute without resetting itself and going into shutdown. The fact is that this build it has something beyond game breaking in it.
Have you seriously not noticed the massive frame drops and audio stuttering after playing a while?. I regular see 3 different people with different playstations all suffering this issue.
You can say "It's a beta!" or any crap that relates to the EULA. The fact is it is DAMAGING SYSTEMS by straining them to breaking and overheat point.
Pointing this out should not be met with cries of you read the law now deal with it. Are you all that mental not to realise that there's actually an issue here?.
I don't want money back I know what I signed up to, but there's definately an issue this build and I'm pretty sure it's to do with that skirmish map that should've been removed last build, not tweaked and put back in.
Not sure if srs
You're raging about people telling a raging person that he will not get any money because of the broken PS3 hard drive. I guess it's a bit cruel to just say "They're not obligated because of the contract." but it is, what it is. I sympathize for you and question why mines hasn't done the same (it's been running smoothly) but I'm pretty sure everyone is tired of repeating the same thing...seeing how there have been past threads with the same topic with the same type of OP who won't listen to everyone and who has apparently not read the contract. I mean I didn't go through the complete contract :I but it's not like I'd continue ranting about them paying after the first post.
Now. They do need to fix that because it's something that can cause fear, especially with the new PS3s being shipped... |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.10.04 20:18:00 -
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hey, that's better then my tuesday.. only few hundred SP a match.
probably had 3 k SP that whole day it seemed so slow. |
Smoke2Bowls
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:38:00 -
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So many people overlooked what this thread is about. I didnt say i wanted money or to sue once. I said people will start trying to if their **** gets broke you guys know it. So i figure their gonna need to fix it pretty soon. Now with that said, i was angry when i posted this from it happening two games in a row earlier. I coulda had a better tone i suppose but lets not forget the main problem, Dust is crashing consoles. It should get fixed. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
785
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:42:00 -
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Just so you know, the chances of any software ruining your hardware unintentionally are pretty low. Almost impossible, really.
A hard freeze has almost no chance to ruin your PS3's ability to run. Neither does yanking out your power cord. However, yanking out your power cord can damage the cord or the input jack which CAN kitten up your PS3. Just hold the button down whenever you freeze and nothing bad will happen.
The "Checking hard drive" message that shows up after an unexpected shutdown is just a safety check and can almost always be skipped and ignored. Let it run once a month or so and run the rebuild database feature included with your PS3, and everything will be fine. |
Goat of Dover
Shadow Company HQ
161
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Posted - 2012.10.04 23:03:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Just so you know, the chances of any software ruining your hardware unintentionally are pretty low. Almost impossible, really.
A hard freeze has almost no chance to ruin your PS3's ability to run. Neither does yanking out your power cord. However, yanking out your power cord can damage the cord or the input jack which CAN kitten up your PS3. Just hold the button down whenever you freeze and nothing bad will happen.
The "Checking hard drive" message that shows up after an unexpected shutdown is just a safety check and can almost always be skipped and ignored. Let it run once a month or so and run the rebuild database feature included with your PS3, and everything will be fine.
This is so the truth I used to play another game that was released and was not a beta, that would cause hard freezes, data corruption memo, and any other type of freeze problem you have probably seen with a PS3. Everyone had this problem usually every other day on the reg, it was a such a common thing that they had acronyms so people could type it faster in chat. I played this game for over a year all together. Never once did I have any problems outside of having to reload the game. I did however do exactly what this man just said. Except the first time it happened it scared the crap out of me I freaked out and went online trying to figure out what the hell just happened to my PS3.
So for those freaking or getting worried please go look up the chance of anything actually happening from these problems. Also for those who say it could happen, In all honesty a tree with a momma bear that has not eating in over a month could fall on your car at any given moment that you are going down a road with a wooded roadside. Just pointing out what could happen |
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