DUST Search - 7 orbital strikes in a row same guy LITTLE MUCH YOU THINK

Rank Gank wrote:

Jaysin 011584 wrote:

The orbital kills you get should not count to your next orbital and/or that player should have a cool down time cuz it is getting ridiculous. It takes away from they actual gameplay, and you don't even have time to call in a vehicle as soon as they see it STRIKE, try it again SAME GUY STRIKE

Please fix this i do like using the orbital, however there are times when even i am like i have it again man this is not even fair.

Its not that, there is an exploit to get a huge amount of war points. Precision Strikes do not lead to the next strike or war points.

The exploit is were a squad on the opposing team calls in a jeep, squad leader issues a defend order on it then drives in a ditch or pot hole that can give the vehicle damage. the other squad members repair the vehicle over and over again to rack war points. the method is closely similar to the EOD bot Exploit for Battlefield 3. I haven't seen this in action but I've been hearing it around Dust 514 players.

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Jaysin 011584 Scorpions At War 90	Posted - 2012.10.04 05:46:00 - [1] - Quote The orbital kills you get should not count to your next orbital and/or that player should have a cool down time cuz it is getting ridiculous. It takes away from they actual gameplay, and you don't even have time to call in a vehicle as soon as they see it STRIKE, try it again SAME GUY STRIKE Please fix this i do like using the orbital, however there are times when even i am like i have it again man this is not even fair.
Rank Gank Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1	Posted - 2012.10.04 06:11:00 - [2] - Quote Jaysin 011584 wrote: The orbital kills you get should not count to your next orbital and/or that player should have a cool down time cuz it is getting ridiculous. It takes away from they actual gameplay, and you don't even have time to call in a vehicle as soon as they see it STRIKE, try it again SAME GUY STRIKE Please fix this i do like using the orbital, however there are times when even i am like i have it again man this is not even fair. Its not that, there is an exploit to get a huge amount of war points. Precision Strikes do not lead to the next strike or war points. The exploit is were a squad on the opposing team calls in a jeep, squad leader issues a defend order on it then drives in a ditch or pot hole that can give the vehicle damage. the other squad members repair the vehicle over and over again to rack war points. the method is closely similar to the EOD bot Exploit for Battlefield 3. I haven't seen this in action but I've been hearing it around Dust 514 players.
Brush Master HavoK Core 163	Posted - 2012.10.04 06:30:00 - [3] - Quote Yes this being heavily abused. You can pretty much get infinite OB with reping an lav and large amounts of sp/isk.
chuckuall RestlessSpirits 16	Posted - 2012.10.04 07:09:00 - [4] - Quote This was a problem on mag for a time ccp should take a note from what they did and make it so friendly damage repairs don't give points.
Jaysin 011584 Scorpions At War 90	Posted - 2012.10.04 07:17:00 - [5] - Quote no i know for a fact one orbital leads to the next i called a strike on a tank got another orbital right away two back to back and we do not farm
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.10.04 07:27:00 - [6] - Quote yeah in a simple ambush map i put a defend order on myself and was running around with my team shooting things and i got about 8 OBs
flegmat tropku Algintal Core Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2012.10.04 08:22:00 - [7] - Quote Would it be too radical to change the defend order for "fixed installations only"?
Vickers S Grunt Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 67	Posted - 2012.10.04 09:30:00 - [8] - Quote Apart from all the farming its much to easy to get a OB just using normal gameplay and a full squad thy should be at least 2x as much war points
Templar1 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 7	Posted - 2012.10.04 09:35:00 - [9] - Quote why not make the orbital strike a skill that you have to learn not just given to you as a squad leader? but still alowing the defend and attack installations and what not
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.10.04 09:37:00 - [10] - Quote Vickers S Grunt wrote: Apart from all the farming its much to easy to get a OB just using normal gameplay and a full squad thy should be at least 2x as much war points at least, i would prefer 4 X or 5 X

Cortez The Killer Immobile Infantry 189	Posted - 2012.10.04 11:46:00 - [11] - Quote Templar1 wrote: why not make the orbital strike a skill that you have to learn not just given to you as a squad leader? but still alowing the defend and attack installations and what not This makes sense. If the command heirarchy is developed like it is in Eve, the Strike command could even be bumped up into the hands of a platoon leader. As for LAV repair/WP farming... why doesn't CCP recognize it as an exploit, declare it as such, and start enforcing it with the Banhammer? This sounds a whole lot simpler than re-coding the game. Better yet, just enable friendly fire and let us police ourselves if CCP won't.
SKITZMORRIS I A Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION 3	Posted - 2012.10.04 14:27:00 - [12] - Quote This is a big problem happened in loads of games to me and my friends it is taking away from the gameplay please fix soon its putting people off this great game.
SKITZMORRIS I A Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION 3	Posted - 2012.10.04 14:28:00 - [13] - Quote This is a big problem happened in loads of games to me and my friends it is taking away from the gameplay please fix soon its putting people off this great game.
Illuminaughty-696 Omega Risk Control Services 203	Posted - 2012.10.04 15:52:00 - [14] - Quote Jaysin 011584 wrote: no i know for a fact one orbital leads to the next i called a strike on a tank got another orbital right away two back to back and we do not farm First, kill WP farming then let's see how it is. I've gotten seven or so in a match, but it was a long, drawn out skirmish. They did not come back to back, even when we were in a groove. Dropping a single precision strike, then getting another one a second later, doesn't happen in normal game play. You can store them, meaning if you missed the message about getting one, then get another one, you have two in the bank, so to speak. I've saved up three one time. So, not to be an arse, but your facts doesn't seem quite right unless you got a very rare, just for you bug OR your team accomplished a LOT in that one second between strikes. You most likely had one saved you didn't realize.
Black Ninja09 Antares L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 11	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:11:00 - [15] - Quote As for the WP farming & SP farming, I know of one specific group that does this! They are known as the "Warriors". I feel that WP & SP farming should make a group banned from the game, as it is simply cheating to get orbital strikes and rediculous amounts of SP! I also feel that a defend order should be able to be placed not only on installations, but vehicles and people as well, just no WP or SP given for self damaging said vehicles and then repairing for SP & WP. If defended object is damaged by enemy fire and then repaired, then the appropriate WP & SP should apply in that scenario only, as that is what repairs are meant for!
Destheren Taichi Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2012.10.05 01:50:00 - [16] - Quote Black Ninja09 Antares wrote: As for the WP farming & SP farming, I know of one specific group that does this! They are known as the "Warriors". I feel that WP & SP farming should make a group banned from the game, as it is simply cheating to get orbital strikes and rediculous amounts of SP! I also feel that a defend order should be able to be placed not only on installations, but vehicles and people as well, just no WP or SP given for self damaging said vehicles and then repairing for SP & WP. If defended object is damaged by enemy fire and then repaired, then the appropriate WP & SP should apply in that scenario only, as that is what repairs are meant for! ..... So THAT'S why there were 'idiots' in LAVs at the spawn just driving back and forth and crashing into things. That was... really pissing me off, and even more now that they can get strikes doing that. It's kinda funny though, now that I look back at it. I was just raging, going WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU DOING? ARE YOU THIS BORED? heh.
sansey Inferno Inferno Inc 43	Posted - 2012.10.05 11:00:00 - [17] - Quote today my teammate and I see how to easy make WP (PINO CR7, Vedah Nightwing, lino85 and some other ppl from corporation Grupo de Asalto Chacal use this) after math they have more than 7-8k WP ) in main resp (red zone) squadleader take lav - make command defend him, after that damage it used for that some wall. few squad members use repair tools and repair jeep and very fast take precision strikes and destroy many enemies... its very unfair gameplay and must be fixed. To resolve this problem just remove expirience (WP, SP ) for repairing or all activities in red zone PS. we few matches tested that exploite and in one match have easy take 10k WP and 80k SP.... i hope ccp soon fix that
Brush Master HavoK Core 163	Posted - 2012.10.05 18:19:00 - [18] - Quote ya this method is spreading like wildfire and I'm sure CCP will do something about it. Why would people do the battle when you can get 2-3x more sp/wp/isk repping an lav and laying down 20 orbs a match. About every game I've been going into lately, tha'ts all that is going on. Can't say I haven't tried it out and I know some my crew are doing it from time to time just because everyone else is doing it thus getting top end gear faster and owning it up. This is literally taking a lot of fun out of matches.
8404-0000 GREEN Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 20	Posted - 2012.10.05 23:24:00 - [19] - Quote It did seem to happen kinda quick in the one game. Does it cause friendly fire? I've been fortunate enough to find cover anytime I hear the warning. I ask because it would be nice to have "precision planetary missile" strikes rather than just artillery style raining down, and any friendly deaths would hurt your WP and what not. Plus the missile(s) would be laser guided or something so you could prevent it from actually hitting by taking out the spotter(s). This could also introduce a class of skills for Laser Guided Accuracy and Spotter Skill. Then there also could be Ballistic Missile Defense systems adding more places to fight over and capture....sorry off on a tangent I know.... Some food for thought based on how the worlds real navies are operating today and I know in EVE you have everything from Shells to Drones to fling at enemy ships. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMaOxAqT2Qc
JaySin V11584 Scorpions At War 0	Posted - 2012.10.08 23:45:00 - [20] - Quote In ambush I think maybe ONE orbital In skirmish maybe two Also i like putting the defend on someone because it keeps your squad together

DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1904	Posted - 2012.10.09 00:11:00 - [21] - Quote Rank Gank wrote: Precision Strikes do not lead to the next strike or war points. Yea they do, each time you kill someone with a PS you get +50 points, which goes straight towards your next PS
ATR Kuan Ti Above The Rest 64	Posted - 2012.10.09 01:15:00 - [22] - Quote Jaysin 011584 wrote: The orbital kills you get should not count to your next orbital and/or that player should have a cool down time cuz it is getting ridiculous. It takes away from they actual gameplay, and you don't even have time to call in a vehicle as soon as they see it STRIKE, try it again SAME GUY STRIKE Please fix this i do like using the orbital, however there are times when even i am like i have it again man this is not even fair. you can stack them and if you got a good squad 7 to 10 is about how meny we get in game heres how you do it put defend on a squad member in your squad Cap A B C D E turrent clone and resupplys as a team if your doing it as a team and kill as a team the hint is team work
Mo Gallas Gentralde Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 178	Posted - 2012.10.09 03:52:00 - [23] - Quote Cortez The Killer wrote: As for LAV repair/WP farming... why doesn't CCP recognize it as an exploit, declare it as such, and start enforcing it with the Banhammer? This sounds a whole lot simpler than re-coding the game. Better yet, just enable friendly fire and let us police ourselves if CCP won't. 1. They still have to fix faulty Terrain damage issues. 2. They could apply a WP cap per vehicle, or per game for vehicle repairs and have it taper off so they can visually see their new earnings dwindle to 1 then 0. 3. That friendly fire option is a horrible idea. They "boost" because they're bored and want a giggle or some kind of bonus. What would they do if Friendly Fire was ON? Team Kill... for giggles or a thrill. In other words they'd "police" you. :/
Aq'sa L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 44	Posted - 2012.10.09 21:01:00 - [24] - Quote Rank Gank wrote: Jaysin 011584 wrote: The orbital kills you get should not count to your next orbital and/or that player should have a cool down time cuz it is getting ridiculous. It takes away from they actual gameplay, and you don't even have time to call in a vehicle as soon as they see it STRIKE, try it again SAME GUY STRIKE Please fix this i do like using the orbital, however there are times when even i am like i have it again man this is not even fair. Its not that, there is an exploit to get a huge amount of war points. Precision Strikes do not lead to the next strike or war points. The exploit is were a squad on the opposing team calls in a jeep, squad leader issues a defend order on it then drives in a ditch or pot hole that can give the vehicle damage. the other squad members repair the vehicle over and over again to rack war points. the method is closely similar to the EOD bot Exploit for Battlefield 3. I haven't seen this in action but I've been hearing it around Dust 514 players. Our squad built up 5 Precision strikes the other day without any WP farming, just kills. Squad leader didn't use them for awhile into the match, then could drop them consecutively... Maybe this is what you saw?
8404-0000 GREEN Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 20	Posted - 2012.10.09 21:04:00 - [25] - Quote In regards to number 3 I figured the did it to not just get the strike, but the points for easy skill and ISK etc to get the good stuff faster.... I'd imagine that once this goes live with the EVE world, you wont have pilots above fulfilling B.S. orders for people who hurt there score too. Plus the strike I imagine would be cleared by the overall commander of the team. Its never in the hands of "boots on the ground" to approve strikes. There's also going to be some lead time from request, approval and fulfillment. This is just a test of part you "see" I'd imagine.
Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 416	Posted - 2012.10.09 21:38:00 - [26] - Quote i'd definitely like having that short delay back between the targeting laser part of the strike, and the deadly deadly explosions part of the strike.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2012.10.10 00:08:00 - [27] - Quote We can easily fix this. Triple the points needed for a Orbital Strike, Don't allow any WP gain in the Redzone (Include the Spawn Area), Place a Time Limit (Call it a recharge on the War Barges cannons) for 30 seconds or more. This means people need more points to call it in, have to actually get into the game to earn points OR if they want to continue farming, run the risk of being killed. This also means a person cannot get 3-4 Orbit Strikes saved up and call them in repeatedly. I'm always the Squad Leader for my group, I regularly get 3-9 Orbit Strikes per match (3 being my bad runs), I've never farmed and I'm always getting kills. Funnily enough I got accused of Farming the other day, even though I was actively defending a point with my Squad and people were throwing themselves at us to try and capture the objective. (btw, you should try to die less, stop giving the enemy points ;) ) I feel an Orbit Strike should be a really powerful thing to use, that shouldn't be given out repeatedly. That said, I don't feel it has a large enough Radius, I usually escape most ones called down on me and if we did increase the points needed, it'd be unfair to be able to just escape by taking a few steps or it completely missing you whilst you're in its radius..


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