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Xiree
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:08:00 -
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When these user's were in frame or you were in theirs. Massive lag was experienced -- Possibly glitching
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These users were giving massive frame drop when you were in frame of them or if they were in your frame. I will NOT post names of users I find glitching or experiencing odd activity with here because I would like to keep posting. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:16:00 -
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Interesting |
McFurious
BetaMax.
67
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Posted - 2012.10.03 05:25:00 -
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For me, just about everyone who comes into my view causes some kind of lag or frame skipping. The closer they are the worse it gets.  |
Kai Sakuemi
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.10.03 05:27:00 -
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All in the same match? You sure you weren't just in a bad game?
Also, I'm not sure if you should be naming-and-shaming people on public forums. |
Vexen Krios
Doomheim
95
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Posted - 2012.10.03 06:02:00 -
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if you come into contact, and by that i mean your character runs into or even touches another character, both characters end up freaking out in one way or another. |
Xiree
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2012.10.03 10:35:00 -
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No its only a few characters in game that cause the issue. You can tell who has problems and who doesn't just by spectating.
One will be just having all the good motion and the other player will be barely unresponsive.
I'll be making a list of users that I encounter the problem with. Hopefully it will not be so consistent.
But if it does... The names, if they are glitching or if its just / LAG/ USIN A WiFi / Cousin, bro, uncle, did something to their console... What ever they say it may be or its cause..
Hopefully I can give some off-end resolutions. AND I AIM TO PLEASE. |
Xiree
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2012.10.03 10:37:00 -
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@Kai
Few of those players were on my team. |
Conraire
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.10.03 12:55:00 -
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He's right, I've noticed that with Specific players, even before this patch.
Those players did include Bad Furry, that STB Youncuz dude, and I've encounted 4 others that caused it, in otherwise perfectly stable and lag free matches. It's repeatable with those specific characters, when shooting at or near others, I don't have a problem. These are also the people that almost never appear on Radar, even when you're looking at them.
The game will run perfectly smooth until you get specific people into your aim area. I think that's the point where it starts direct interaction. It could point to lag or a really crap connection on their end. Could be Other things that I'd like not to think about. |
Enderr Wigginn
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
57
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Posted - 2012.10.04 02:41:00 -
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First and foremost I do not condone cheating. How can you tell the differences between someone purposely wifi lagging and someone in Argentina with a poor internet connection trying to enjoy a great game ? You can not and therefore you should not blacklist people for lagging. Now crashing LAV and repairing them behind the red line eeeeeehhhh I am still not a fan of blacklisting people, They should have a report user feature. I like the PSN forum eula where blacklisting is forbidden just because a innocent person could potential become blacklisted. |
Xiree
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2012.10.04 09:05:00 -
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LOL enderr
There is numerous of ways for Server administrators to tell if someone is glitching.
There is numerous of ways for server Administrators to tell if someone really is not in Argintina, but really San Diego.
There is numerous of ways for server Administrators to tell it is not a Wifi modem.
Other then that, the names I'm posting isn't there real life names or anything... They could just be LAGGEd or they could be making others lag(on purpose) . The name list that will grow as I encount other errors / bugs / exploits by users... Will only be used to give Developers a username to lookup and pull their files.
If it is just lag, they will know... If it isn't lag, THEY WILL KNOW.
I don't see why such hositility always elevates this, I mean... Are you guilty of something ? |
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Templar1
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.10.04 09:39:00 -
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Possible that u were the one lagging? when ur internet took load?? |
Enderr Wigginn
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
57
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Posted - 2012.10.05 03:26:00 -
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]"LOL enderr
There is numerous of ways for Server administrators to tell if someone is glitching.
There is numerous of ways for server Administrators to tell if someone really is not in Argintina, but really San Diego.
There is numerous of ways for server Administrators to tell it is not a Wifi modem.
Other then that, the names I'm posting isn't there real life names or anything... They could just be LAGGEd or they could be making others lag(on purpose) . The name list that will grow as I encount other errors / bugs / exploits by users... Will only be used to give Developers a username to lookup and pull their files.
If it is just lag, they will know... If it isn't lag, THEY WILL KNOW.
I don't see why such hositility always elevates this, I mean... Are you guilty of something ?"
I think you are missing my point. Blacklisting players for lagging is wrong. Yes administrators can see someone pinging some crazy high number but he can not see why. Lets say hypothetical you are playing a round of Dust 514 (greatest shooter out) and your son comes home and starts streaming Breaking bad off Netflixs while down loading the Shadow of the Hegemon audio book. This is going to cause you to lag and you do not even notice but there is a player on the other team who's frame rate is dropping every time you get close to him and he posts your psn id online. Now any time you go online to play the greatest shooter out people constantly call you a cheater and cuss you out all because you son enjoys watching science teachers cook meth and epic sci fi novels. Okay lets take this one step farther lets say You jump online to play some Dust 514 then decide to stream my little pony and download fifty shades of grey audio book to purposely cause lag to give you a advantage in the greatest shooter out, how would a administrator tell the difference between either example of lag ? They can not and you can not and therefore you should not blacklist people because of lag. Now I personal think blacklisting is wrong period because who is to stop you from posting anyone's name on your list just because you do not like them or they powned you in a match.
Where was I showing hostility or are you just trying to make me look like a bad guy? Yes I am guilty of many things lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, pride but if you are trying to imply I am a cheater no I am not. |
DROG DAR
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.10.05 03:35:00 -
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I skipped through a lot of this so sorry if it was said.
I HAVENT noticed it myself in dust 514.
but lag switches can me made easily and bought cheaply.
there is every possibility that people are using them. simply from the fact that they exist.
normally, when lag is experienced the person with worst connection will lose. that is if you lag you cannot track and shoot your opponent and they can track and shoot you.
How ever, with a lag switch it is the other way around. if you see another player you press the activate the lag switch (momentary or push button) and you lag. however you can still move and shoot as normal. what ever you do while lagged is not perceived by the other player(s). so move a bit, shoot the other player and depress the lag switch. from there perspective they experience lag and your actions are instantaneous and (if you shot them) they die.
the only way to counteract this is for enough people to notice it happening regularly and report them. |
Enderr Wigginn
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
57
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Posted - 2012.10.05 03:49:00 -
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How do you tell the difference between someone using a lag switch and someone who just has a poor connection. I have played with friends who have slow internet and it acts the exact same has some using a lag switch and I know they are not cheating. |
DROG DAR
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.10.05 03:53:00 -
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there is a huge difference between the two. if you saw it you could tell the difference if you were observing at a distance.
really though... it is undetectable. |
DROG DAR
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.10.05 03:57:00 -
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this is a bit extreme but this shows what i am talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vP1837P-tY
the other players are still moving and shooting as normal. but to him (guy using it) they are not. so when he does damage to them and then releases the lag switch button the game recognizes that they took the damage and they all die. on their screen im sure they were all else where on the map.
edit - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC2T0Dc4I0w&feature=related this shows it from the other end |
Enderr Wigginn
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
57
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Posted - 2012.10.05 04:08:00 -
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I do apologize I am not trying to defend cheaters in all of my badgering, I am only trying to defend the guy who is accidentally lagging but accused of cheating. I am a sniper so I hate laggers and I personal think we snipers are at the greatest disadvantage against someone lagging. I have been playing online shooters for a long time and I accepted occasional lag has part of the game and when it is real bad I just find a new server. |
Ambival
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.10.05 04:10:00 -
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That was pretty annoying when it happened to me tonight. Only had 30 mins to play, but got treated to bomber spam. |
Xiree
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2012.10.05 05:00:00 -
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Edited
These users were giving massive frame drop when you were in frame of them or if they were in your fame. |
Xiree
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2012.10.05 09:33:00 -
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Edited Fired every round I had of sniper rifle ammo -- At the guy, direct hits at the head, even had sheild flickerings... He was inside mini-radar range. Used up all my dang ammo, but not even the sheild was depleting.
These users were giving massive frame drop when you were in frame of them or if they were in your fame. |
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2012.10.05 16:00:00 -
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I've seen this happen a lot. I'm betting it's poor coding tbh. It's as though the game is not loading their loadout up until you look at them or meet them on the field. I've come across a few of those players you mentioned and never once thought, "that guy is a cheat!".
I have seen lag switches trying to be used however, but only once in 3 builds now. The guy got his arse handed to him anyway, but you could tell he was doing it. He was warping everywhere and soaking up bullets. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
169
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Posted - 2012.10.05 16:19:00 -
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lol...
Ever thought that this was not intentional? This happened to me a few times and was unable to play the whole match. After that I had to restart my PS3. This still occurred in the last build but not as frequent. |
Xiree
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2012.10.07 07:49:00 -
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@Ty
Its not poor coding... The game is in beta and at least things can be worked now, instead of way later.
Its not but a few users who do this. Losers just want to ruin the game for everyone else...
Its kinda funny though, how I sit there and unload rounds into a guys head yet, he just busy spamming not even realize that I'm going to follow up on a complaint as I'm sitting there lodgen bullets in his head and he is unaware.
Shooting clippers / ones who warp... Is sorta easy, its all about just shooting where they will be next.
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Xiree
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2012.10.07 07:50:00 -
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Edited |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.07 09:28:00 -
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It MAY not be deliberately.
There are some people I just can not snipe. I fps or scope glitch when I try. My guess is lag. That some players are on the other side of the world, are causing the ping time to THEM to delay whatever I'm about to do. |
Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
203
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Posted - 2012.10.07 14:44:00 -
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Just to point it out . . . lag can be one-sided. Zion had two squads in, one on each side of the match, and my side got zero lag, while after the match they reported being so laggy they could barely aim. We walked up to where they were dropping out of the MCC and mowed them down as they stood there erratically trying to turn and shoot us. Anyway, if, and I mean if people have found a way to do this it needs to be dealt with, but there are potentially a hundred explanations (okay, maybe not a hundred but whatever). |
Xiree
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2012.10.08 03:40:00 -
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Edited |
Jimbeezy
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.10.08 05:09:00 -
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I don't have a clue to what you are talking about. Check your internet buddy. |
Xiree
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2012.10.08 05:15:00 -
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Yea, I know you don't.
But I shot you a few times while u were running... You took damage, and then once you had me in your frame / HUD(HEADS UP DISPLAY) you stopped taking damage. Even though u stopped moving, and took some shots to the face `LIKE A BOSS -- You just stopped taking damage.
I hope that makes it easier for you to understand. People get confused by the usages of Frame.
Possibly was a connection issue, not coming from me though. Because until u turned at me -- You were taking damage. |
GIZMO2606
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
293
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:28:00 -
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No thread has ever wanted to make me face-brick till now. |
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