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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.01 19:51:00 -
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I'm facing the Zitros and Jenza and a couple of others, they're doing alright sure, but they've already dropped 12-13 OBs....did they change how frequently you can drop them or something? |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.01 19:52:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I'm facing the Zitros and Jenza and a couple of others, they're doing alright sure, but they've already dropped 12-13 OBs....did they change how frequently you can drop them or something?
They may be cordinating with Eve Players to drop it. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.01 19:53:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I'm facing the Zitros and Jenza and a couple of others, they're doing alright sure, but they've already dropped 12-13 OBs....did they change how frequently you can drop them or something? They may be cordinating with Eve Players to drop it.
Wait, that's live right now? |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.01 19:53:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I'm facing the Zitros and Jenza and a couple of others, they're doing alright sure, but they've already dropped 12-13 OBs....did they change how frequently you can drop them or something? They may be cordinating with Eve Players to drop it. Wait, that's live right now?
EVE Online players in the Codex update later on as we introduce the Orbital Strike feature whereby EVE capsuleers will be able to offer fire support to their DUST allies on the ground from space! |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.01 19:57:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote: EVE Online players in the Codex update later on as we introduce the Orbital Strike feature whereby EVE capsuleers will be able to offer fire support to their DUST allies on the ground from space!
Looks like you'll HAVE to get into a corp asap then >_<
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Ima Leet
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.10.01 19:58:00 -
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thats my corp! |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.01 19:59:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Sentient Archon wrote: EVE Online players in the Codex update later on as we introduce the Orbital Strike feature whereby EVE capsuleers will be able to offer fire support to their DUST allies on the ground from space!
Looks like you'll HAVE to get into a corp asap then >_<
Why? Cos those clowns sucked at gun fighting, so they have to take up orbital strikes? Check out any skirmish map. There are objectives well protected. And invest in the Orbital canons so that you can take out those dreadnaughts!
LMFAO! |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.01 19:59:00 -
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So what are the limitations on OBs? Does anyone know?
It was just one after another after another, clearing out our spawn again and again and again >_< |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:00:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:So what are the limitations on OBs? Does anyone know?
It was just one after another after another, clearing out our spawn again and again and again >_<
Invest in Orbital Canons! |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:00:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Sentient Archon wrote: EVE Online players in the Codex update later on as we introduce the Orbital Strike feature whereby EVE capsuleers will be able to offer fire support to their DUST allies on the ground from space!
Looks like you'll HAVE to get into a corp asap then >_< Why? Cos those clowns sucked at gun fighting, so they have to take up orbital strikes? Check out any skirmish map. There are objectives well protected. And invest in the Orbital canons so that you can take out those dreadnaughts! LMFAO!
We must be playing different games. I wasn't away we could buy OB cannons right now, and I'm not sure about you, but most objectives get a whole lot of sunshine, if you catch my drift. |
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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:04:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote: We must be playing different games. I wasn't away we could buy OB cannons right now, and I'm not sure about you, but most objectives get a whole lot of sunshine, if you catch my drift.
Its called Orbital Artillery. Check you skill trees. And your spawn point in any map has a lot of cover! If they shoot at you shoot back at them! |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:07:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote: We must be playing different games. I wasn't away we could buy OB cannons right now, and I'm not sure about you, but most objectives get a whole lot of sunshine, if you catch my drift.
Its called Orbital Artillery. Check you skill trees. And your spawn point in any map has a lot of cover! If they shoot at you shoot back at them!
Oh so you're trolling, no such skill exists. |
D3LTA NORMANDY
Doomheim
101
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:07:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Sentient Archon wrote: EVE Online players in the Codex update later on as we introduce the Orbital Strike feature whereby EVE capsuleers will be able to offer fire support to their DUST allies on the ground from space!
Looks like you'll HAVE to get into a corp asap then >_<
D3LTA FORC3 is still looking for players. www.d3ltaforc3.shivtr.com |
RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
101
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:14:00 -
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I was in same game lol. I think jenza dropped like 3 OB's in less than a minute. It was all silly and ****. I am butthurt a little lol. |
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CCP Contra Merc
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
112
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:19:00 -
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No Orbital Strikes yet, because EVE players are still not allowed into SiSi.
What you experience are warbarge "Precision Strikes", these are granted to squad leaders when they have earned enough war points during the match. |
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:20:00 -
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CCP Contra Merc wrote:No Orbital Strikes yet, because EVE players are still not allowed into SiSi.
What you experience are warbarge "Precision Strikes", these are granted to squad leaders when they have earned enough war points during the match.
Damn, they were doing alright, but they literally just dropped one strike after the other after the other, the same squad leader 3 times in a row....did you guys lower the requirements or something?? |
howard sanchez
Conspiratus Immortalis
448
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:23:00 -
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Itsa fair question that deserves a CCP reply. And not a reply by trolling kids looking for E-attention |
RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
101
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:27:00 -
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Wow, so if they have an objective lit up with a Squad Command and then drop a Precision Strike and kill 5 Mercs, then that must go toward the next strike? Hmmmm....it will be a never ending cycle if they could get back to back like that.
There should be a cooldown IMO |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:27:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:CCP Contra Merc wrote:No Orbital Strikes yet, because EVE players are still not allowed into SiSi.
What you experience are warbarge "Precision Strikes", these are granted to squad leaders when they have earned enough war points during the match. Damn, they were doing alright, but they literally just dropped one strike after the other after the other, the same squad leader 3 times in a row....did you guys lower the requirements or something??
you can save them up so if your squad earns its third strike and the first two went unused, that you could call in all 3 back to back to back if desired.
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843 pano
843 Boot Camp
200
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:28:00 -
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Sounds like SP farming to me. |
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:28:00 -
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RydogV wrote:Wow, so if they have an objective lit up with a Squad Command and then drop a Precision Strike and kill 5 Mercs, then that must go toward the next strike? Hmmmm....it will be a never ending cycle if they could get back to back like that.
There should be a cooldown IMO
That's what I was thinking, or the points from the strike shouldn't go towards the pool in order to call in another one. It just felt...silly |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:31:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:you can save them up so if your squad earns its third strike and the first two went unused, that you could call in all 3 back to back to back if desired.
Yea, but there was no saving being done >_< Those 3 were just the ones dropped back to back. Jenza had to have dropped 3-4 others, then a descent number of strikes came from the other squad leaders.
Crap, double post >_< |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:36:00 -
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Last build our squad was able to get between 4-7 Orbitals in a single match through killing and squad orders. |
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CCP Contra Merc
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
112
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:37:00 -
[24] - Quote
Take in consideration that the War points can later be used for an Orbital Strike. So you have the choice to save them. |
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Cyn Bruin
90
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:42:00 -
[25] - Quote
It's easy to get enough warpoints to drop orbital strikes. I know we would get 6-8 a game by using defend orders. |
Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
210
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:43:00 -
[26] - Quote
These are broken, i had 6 last game. |
D3LTA NORMANDY
Doomheim
101
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:44:00 -
[27] - Quote
If your OB kills enough people you have another soon. |
jackbubu
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
24
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Posted - 2012.10.01 20:54:00 -
[28] - Quote
how are they op? its easy enough to run out of the radius as soon as you see the blue rays, did this several time last match |
Ima Leet
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.10.01 21:09:00 -
[29] - Quote
jackbubu wrote:how are they op? its easy enough to run out of the radius as soon as you see the blue rays, did this several time last match lol i could not escape them. i hear them, then see them then run and i die.... plus they seems to actually have a larger diameter than is shown on the warning |
jackbubu
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
24
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Posted - 2012.10.01 21:11:00 -
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Ima Leet wrote:jackbubu wrote:how are they op? its easy enough to run out of the radius as soon as you see the blue rays, did this several time last match lol i could not escape them. i hear them, then see them then run and i die.... plus they seems to actually have a larger diameter than is shown on the warning maybe i was lucky and not in the center when the warning went off, but ive managed to escape multiple times now :P |
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.01 21:19:00 -
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Sounds like boosting |
Vane KoS
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2012.10.01 21:41:00 -
[32] - Quote
Something wierd going on - my first game and the guy spamming OS went 33-1 - the top WP scorer went 0-0, no idea if its connected but it just fealt wierd. We were hit by strike after strike. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.01 21:49:00 -
[33] - Quote
Vane KoS wrote:Something wierd going on - my first game and the guy spamming OS went 33-1 - the top WP scorer went 0-0, no idea if its connected but it just fealt wierd. We were hit by strike after strike. Sounds like some balance testing is in order. |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.10.01 22:06:00 -
[34] - Quote
so you can save them up for later? : D |
Volek Tahn
Greatness Achieved Through Training
8
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Posted - 2012.10.01 22:10:00 -
[35] - Quote
Those precision strikes are pretty easy to dodge, even with a heavy. If 3 are called in a tight area however, there is no escaping them. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.10.01 22:11:00 -
[36] - Quote
I got one for doing nothing >< |
Unit-775
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
36
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Posted - 2012.10.01 22:19:00 -
[37] - Quote
We just had the WARRIORS doing the SP farming and they where able to constantly bombard us wit OBs. Oh did i mention they lost the match as usual. |
Vane KoS
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2012.10.01 22:32:00 -
[38] - Quote
That makes sense - so the guy repping the lav gets max wp whilst the driver is squad leader and launches the OS. At least before they only got SP lol. |
Garrett Whetshaft
Hateful Munitions
31
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Posted - 2012.10.01 22:33:00 -
[39] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:[quote=CCP Contra Merc]...they literally just dropped one strike after the other after the other, the same squad leader 3 times in a row....did you guys lower the requirements or something??
If you: 1. Squad leader sets defend on ABCD or Vehicle 2. Squad member places nanohives and uplink 3. Squad makes kills 4. Squad member revives in the area 5. Squad resupplies
^ all that adds to squad warpoints
If your Squad leader bothers it is easy for one squad to get two or three OB in any gametype. The Teams are squads of 4. There are 4 or 5 squads per side.
In a match you could have anywhere up to 15 OB which works out to quite a few a minute.
In short if the other team is organised and they have better Leadership, this will place your game at a disadvantage.
I bet there is more that i missed, but that is what i worked out so far. I think that there are other elements but idk |
Garrett Whetshaft
Hateful Munitions
31
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Posted - 2012.10.01 22:37:00 -
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CCP Contra Merc wrote:Take in consideration that the War points can later be used for an Orbital Strike. So you have the choice to save them.
Forgive me for asking, if they can be used later, does this mean they carry into a new match? So you could start a new match and call it in?
Thanks |
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The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.10.01 22:46:00 -
[41] - Quote
You dont need a vehicle anymore to get the WP bonus. Try it on one of your squad mates and roll as a group. You can pretty much spam them. And i think the size of the area that gets hit is now larger and the warning time has beeing drastical lowered. I even have problems to escape from them. And thats why i wont spec into tanks anymore. 1 precision strike and they are taken down allmost instantly. Probs stay with the LAV. |
Tenchu-13
What The French
76
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Posted - 2012.10.01 22:49:00 -
[42] - Quote
Balancing is soooo needed, this is kinda totally ruining the game in my opinion.
1- there are way, and I mean WAY too many of them; 2- there often just isn't enough time to get out of the attack radius
If it means imminent death, then at least CAP the total numbers available per match, AND limit them on a time based manner. Add a XX sec. cooldown on them.
If capping the numbers isn't an option then add at least 2 secs between the first glow and actual impact so we at least have a freaking chance to get the frak out of there....
Now it is way to easy to just spam the strikes on whatever objective, kill ALL defenders and simply walk in and take it... It's eassier then walking into Mordor...
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steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
338
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Posted - 2012.10.01 23:36:00 -
[43] - Quote
dam no love, i like how im the others -_-. i was running with the zitros and jenza :P, and we were just using defend orders and rally orders, each kill I netted a nice 125 points so between the 3 of us we were all just chaining up the OSes, however the other side could do it just as much as we had a few games we could not get off spawn to due to being OSed to hell.
tbh i like it as its keeping the game fluid as big groups of players are forced to move also adds to the atmo with strikes raining down.
but yeh no xploits here just god honest teamwork here. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1005
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Posted - 2012.10.01 23:46:00 -
[44] - Quote
Sentient Archon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Sentient Archon wrote: EVE Online players in the Codex update later on as we introduce the Orbital Strike feature whereby EVE capsuleers will be able to offer fire support to their DUST allies on the ground from space!
Looks like you'll HAVE to get into a corp asap then >_< Why? Cos those clowns sucked at gun fighting, so they have to take up orbital strikes? Check out any skirmish map. There are objectives well protected. And invest in the Orbital canons so that you can take out those dreadnaughts! LMFAO!
The zitros suck at gun game?
lol, oh you! |
Tenchu-13
What The French
76
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Posted - 2012.10.01 23:46:00 -
[45] - Quote
steadyhand amarr wrote:
tbh i like it as its keeping the game fluid as big groups of players are forced to move also adds to the atmo with strikes raining down.
I agree on that point, it does add some fluid game dynamics; keeping people from hording together... but the moment they can waste them on every single sniper, or just drop 3 in a row on an objective, just because they have plenty and don't have to make choices on where to drop them, it kills the same dynamic it creates.
I agree it adds something, that is once they limit it in numbers and people have to make decisions on where and when to drop them, not buttonmashing 24/7. |
Hawk of Battle
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
78
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Posted - 2012.10.01 23:57:00 -
[46] - Quote
I've played 2 games in the new build and I've probably seen more OS in just those 2 than all of last build combined. Even more annoyingly, I FINALLY had one myself on an ambush map, called it in on a large group hanging around the clone unit..... nothing. Didn't even fire. Possible bug? |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2012.10.02 00:15:00 -
[47] - Quote
People,people, people! These are PRECISION STRIKES from the MCC, NOT orbital strikes from EVE!
PRECISION STRIKES... |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.02 00:15:00 -
[48] - Quote
Hawk of Battle wrote:I've played 2 games in the new build and I've probably seen more OS in just those 2 than all of last build combined. Even more annoyingly, I FINALLY had one myself on an ambush map, called it in on a large group hanging around the clone unit..... nothing. Didn't even fire. Possible bug?
Yea I hear you, I played maybe 5 games and I can honestly say that was the most Orbital Strikes I have EVER seen in a single gaming session, by far. And they're much deadlier now. |
Tenchu-13
What The French
76
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Posted - 2012.10.02 00:35:00 -
[49] - Quote
As stated above already these are NOT orbital strikes, EVE players have no access to the server, these are precision strikes.
And yes they suck in their sheer numbers... can't wait till they fix them, or greatly cap them at least.
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Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2012.10.02 00:38:00 -
[50] - Quote
It's funny that most of the good solutions to these exploits in this game can be found in MAG.
Like this current fiasco with PS, have a cooldown meter before your next strikes.
Just sayin' MAG has a lot of good answers for problems in this game.
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NPA SAMAR
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2012.10.02 00:43:00 -
[51] - Quote
needs at least a 5minute cooldown between strikes. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1005
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Posted - 2012.10.02 01:59:00 -
[52] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:So what are the limitations on OBs? Does anyone know?
It was just one after another after another, clearing out our spawn again and again and again >_<
heh, like steadyhand said before, it was all great skill, good teamwork and constant communication,
i dont suppose this makes you interested to join betamax? :P i counted 17 strikes that we got in one match :D |
TEBOW BAGGlNS
Doomheim
17
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Posted - 2012.10.02 02:13:00 -
[53] - Quote
doushclans bombed all the way back to lolmag oh the humanity... |
Lasarte Ioni
Noob Gaming
72
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Posted - 2012.10.02 02:24:00 -
[54] - Quote
I've finally leared how to survive those "precision" strikes; you just have to run towards the center and stay still, while watchin the awesome explotions around you. I've survived 3 of 4 doing so, so maybe its worth a try.
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RHYTHMIK Designs
BetaMax.
50
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Posted - 2012.10.02 02:49:00 -
[55] - Quote
I just played a match w/ Icecreamking and Bendedcave called down 23, yes 23 OS's. The were basically spawn camping with actually being in the line of fire. Plus they both got like 7k war points. Definite farming and exploiting going on. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.02 03:01:00 -
[56] - Quote
jenza aranda wrote:i dont suppose this makes you interested to join betamax? :P i counted 17 strikes that we got in one match :D
It very well might, actually. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1005
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Posted - 2012.10.02 03:23:00 -
[57] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:jenza aranda wrote:i dont suppose this makes you interested to join betamax? :P i counted 17 strikes that we got in one match :D It very well might, actually.
The guys in the squad with me are steadyhand, Mr. Zitro and Omnipitus Zitro. Omni is the general of our forces and director of internal affairs and quite possibly on of, if not the best player in the beta though he claims Mr. Zitro, his brother is better.
they are part of whats known in betamax as the steamroller squad, a team of players that we consider to be the best in the corp and is our frontline team, the team that we intend to deploy for matches we simply cant afford to lose. any one of the steamrollers can be a carry for a random team, but the betamax steamroller in its entirety is a serious force to be reckoned with, and we intend to prove it with this build ;) |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
251
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Posted - 2012.10.02 03:26:00 -
[58] - Quote
Belzeebub Santana wrote:It's funny that most of the good solutions to these exploits in this game can be found in MAG.
Like this current fiasco with PS, have a cooldown meter before your next strikes.
Just sayin' MAG has a lot of good answers for problems in this game.
Don't call my name... |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
251
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Posted - 2012.10.02 03:28:00 -
[59] - Quote
jenza aranda wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:jenza aranda wrote:i dont suppose this makes you interested to join betamax? :P i counted 17 strikes that we got in one match :D It very well might, actually. The guys in the squad with me are steadyhand, Mr. Zitro and Omnipitus Zitro. Omni is the general of our forces and director of internal affairs and quite possibly on of, if not the best player in the beta though he claims Mr. Zitro, his brother is better. they are part of whats known in betamax as the steamroller squad, a team of players that we consider to be the best in the corp and is our frontline team, the team that we intend to deploy for matches we simply cant afford to lose. any one of the steamrollers can be a carry for a random team, but the betamax steamroller in its entirety is a serious force to be reckoned with, and we intend to prove it with this build ;)
AR + damage mod = steamroller.
Easy peasy. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.10.02 03:31:00 -
[60] - Quote
Fiasco Llana wrote:jenza aranda wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:jenza aranda wrote:i dont suppose this makes you interested to join betamax? :P i counted 17 strikes that we got in one match :D It very well might, actually. The guys in the squad with me are steadyhand, Mr. Zitro and Omnipitus Zitro. Omni is the general of our forces and director of internal affairs and quite possibly on of, if not the best player in the beta though he claims Mr. Zitro, his brother is better. they are part of whats known in betamax as the steamroller squad, a team of players that we consider to be the best in the corp and is our frontline team, the team that we intend to deploy for matches we simply cant afford to lose. any one of the steamrollers can be a carry for a random team, but the betamax steamroller in its entirety is a serious force to be reckoned with, and we intend to prove it with this build ;) AR + damage mod = steamroller. Easy peasy. I'm in Betamax, and I was in a squad of Betamax members, and we ended up against the Steamroller Squad. I think the high point of that game was managing to get a single Orbital Strike, and kill Mr. Zitro with it. Other than that, we got facerolled. |
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Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2012.10.02 03:45:00 -
[61] - Quote
Garrett Whetshaft wrote:CCP Contra Merc wrote:Take in consideration that the War points can later be used for an Orbital Strike. So you have the choice to save them. Forgive me for asking, if they can be used later, does this mean they carry into a new match? So you could start a new match and call it in? Thanks He means that the capability will be introduced later. |
Anax 01
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.10.02 03:46:00 -
[62] - Quote
Lasarte Ioni wrote:I've finally leared how to survive those "precision" strikes; you just have to run towards the center and stay still, while watchin the awesome explotions around you. I've survived 3 of 4 doing so, so maybe its worth a try.
In the previous build someone called one on top of me because I was sniping in an Ambush map, up in the hills. I just couldn't move fast enough, so I just knelt there waiting to die. Well, I didn't. I took absolutely no damage. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2012.10.02 03:51:00 -
[63] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:So what are the limitations on OBs? Does anyone know?
It was just one after another after another, clearing out our spawn again and again and again >_<
Someone reported earlier getting an OB at the end of the match. He had two people in his team, and they had a combined 18xx War points when the match ended. Seems 1800 may be the magic number. This makes sense and accounts for the high volume of orbitals we are getting. If you are in a squad that is using orders (rally now gives WP people!) then you will get massive WP and as a result massive numbers of Orbitals.
And Eve players cannot access SiSi, so there are not orbitals coming from Eve players (yet). |
DeathwindRising
ROGUE SPADES
3
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Posted - 2012.10.02 03:56:00 -
[64] - Quote
why not just limit the OS's a squad leader can call in per match to 3? |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2012.10.02 03:57:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:why not just limit the OS's a squad leader can call in per match to 3?
Dear lord no! I like it - it adds SO much to the game. And the fear people have of them now that they can't run away as easily due to the shorter delay between calling them in and them hitting... PRICELESS! |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2012.10.02 04:06:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:So what are the limitations on OBs? Does anyone know?
It was just one after another after another, clearing out our spawn again and again and again >_< Someone reported earlier getting an OB at the end of the match. He had two people in his team, and they had a combined 18xx War points when the match ended. Seems 1800 may be the magic number. This makes sense and accounts for the high volume of orbitals we are getting. If you are in a squad that is using orders (rally now gives WP people!) then you will get massive WP and as a result massive numbers of Orbitals. And Eve players cannot access SiSi, so there are not orbitals coming from Eve players (yet).
Here's the thread:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=38593&find=unread |
Anax 01
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.10.02 13:12:00 -
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Since precision strikes are called in a lot more often in the new build, I've had a lot of 'em cast on me as I was perched on the most remote spot I could find. I haven't counted them, but so far the must have been about 10. Every single time I've been kneeling and expecting to die and every single time I have come out unscathed. I don't even know if you die instantly or lose your HP bit by bit.
Now I wonder if there's a bug or if it's pure dumb luck. |
m621 zma
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
22
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Posted - 2012.10.02 13:20:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:[quote=DUST Fiend]Someone reported earlier getting an OB at the end of the match. He had two people in his team, and they had a combined 18xx War points when the match ended. Seems 1800 may be the magic number. This makes sense and accounts for the high volume of orbitals we are getting.
I think you'll find OB's are available for 1250 warpoints - you can get that repping a LAV in a game as a '1 man squad' |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.10.02 13:48:00 -
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It's important that the cost of precision strikes and orbital bombardment is kept as is, cause that makes it obvious when someone has found an WP exploit. |
Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
210
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Posted - 2012.10.02 13:56:00 -
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Last night with my main STB guys i was calling in sometimes 7-8 orbitals a game. While i agree that we should pull in more than most crews that number seemed a little high. 5 for a team that constantly was setting objectives in the best positions should be able to rain down fire from the heavens, just not more than 5 times. My vote is up the wp requirement by another 500 points and that might even it out a bit. |
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Valx Valor
Prototype Technology Corp.
5
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Posted - 2012.10.02 14:27:00 -
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There should be an ISK cost to them. 50k would deter people from spamming them. |
Jin J'Rayle
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:04:00 -
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I think a cooldown timer between strikes is the way to go. Accumulate all the war points you want, but the MCC should require time to reload their big guns. |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:59:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I'm facing the Zitros and Jenza and a couple of others, they're doing alright sure, but they've already dropped 12-13 OBs....did they change how frequently you can drop them or something?
you can now use orbitals to get more orbitals. Not sure if Corp matches would be worth it since it would be 2 corrdinated teams and what 12 orbitals per squad per game, 16 people per team 8 squads total and what thats 96 orbital strikes per match? thats about how many bullets i shoot in the current ambush map with a tac rifle. |
Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:14:00 -
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CCP Contra Merc wrote:No Orbital Strikes yet, because EVE players are still not allowed into SiSi.
What you experience are warbarge "Precision Strikes", these are granted to squad leaders when they have earned enough war points during the match.
Potato = potato tomato = tomato ok OB doesn't = PS however the whole mechanic is kittened up due to allowing exploiters to run wild in the game and rewarding their UBER exploit skills with damn near infinate OB's (read PS's if it annoy you for us to get the lingo wrong but as OB's dont exist yet i'm sure you know what we mean )
This is ruining the experience for everyone and silence on the issue will only reduce peoples opinion of your ability to fight the war against exploitation. Currently it looks like CCP approves of Exploiting and gives the fingers to everyone it hurts.
So far the only way we can counter (according to posts ive seen from DEV's) this exploit is to waste countless isk on tanks, 1 dev made the statement in a thread that we need to fit tanks better to survive. So Merc's dropships and LAV's have no chance because well fitted tank struggle with the ammount of PS spam.
Atleast we now know the anwser to what the 514 in the title means. The average number of PS's an exploiter is entitled too. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
169
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:19:00 -
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Jin J'Rayle wrote:I think a cooldown timer between strikes is the way to go. Accumulate all the war points you want, but the MCC should require time to reload their big guns.
Cooldown fails... increase requirement instead. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:21:00 -
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The problem is how ridiculously easy it is to farm WP. Yesterday I saw one from "Warriors" getting over 10k WP, and only 16 kills, which I'm certain he got from the strikes, which he dropped constantly for the last half of the battle. Another from Warriors got well over 9000 WP that round.
We still lost because we were only a handful of people actually engaging the enemy.
CCP. Please force a corp rename on "Warriors" to "Farmers" |
Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
203
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:42:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:CCP Contra Merc wrote:No Orbital Strikes yet, because EVE players are still not allowed into SiSi.
What you experience are warbarge "Precision Strikes", these are granted to squad leaders when they have earned enough war points during the match. Damn, they were doing alright, but they literally just dropped one strike after the other after the other, the same squad leader 3 times in a row....did you guys lower the requirements or something??
You can bank them. You don't have to use it as soon as you get it. I've saved three up before and dropped them consecutively. Now if one squad leader is getting 10+ a match, they are almost definitely boosting and WP farming, which has led to the misrepresentation of precision strikes as the problem, when it is WP farming that is to blame.
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Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:20:00 -
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I had a match where there was constant ps over most the game. The other side had the betamax steamroller squad placed 3rd to 4th, and 2 warriors had about 50% more sp then the zitro brothers. And two players on my team had around 3-4k wp. So, around 30k wp worth of orbitals from 1/4 the players.
The farming needs fixed, I can adapt to the really good squads. When a team has farmers and good squads... I could just image the strikes from 32vs32 corp battle if each side was farming or 1/2 as good as steamroller squad. Orbitalstrike warning might sound like a dj is scratching a record, orbit-or-or-or-orbital str-str-str-strike, lol. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
165
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Posted - 2012.10.04 17:00:00 -
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What The French Beta Corp can be added to the list of Corps farming. The last game I played there was no sign of the opposition for the first 4 min yet there was 10 on the other team. All of a sudden it was a non stop barrage of precision strikes with fire teams running around behind them. If I had simply joined during the game I would have thought it was just good squad work by the whole team, but to go from my team having the whole battle ground to not having a chance to breath between strike coupled with their top player going 34-0 with over 8000wp, well, farming is all it could have been. Seeing as this is a beta though I'm ok with this as only by groups being obvious about the farming can CCP fix the problem. My pleasure in playing this game far out weights any irritation the farmers cause. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1005
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Posted - 2012.10.04 17:15:00 -
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I would just like to state that we where not farming in the game that OP first mentioned, it was actually one of the first games we played after the build hit and trust me, we where just as suprised as you where at how many OBs we where getting.
Basically the Zitros are both awesome killers for those who havnt seen them, by placing an squad order on them, i was able to make massive points from their kills plus the bonus they got for killing which all raked up for a commendation |
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