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Piercing Serenity
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.09.28 03:46:00 -
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I just finished reading about some big EVE scandals and player riots. It got me thinking about how cool it was to make a change in a video game just by working together. Then I started thinking about how badly I wanted to wreck EVE as a Duster (Or Dust Bunny. Whatever we're called).
For all of the hate on Swarms and AV grenades, and hundreds of "Tanks are OP" threads, I hope EVE is ready for ProtomanX, Bad Furry, and the rest of Dust 514. I've never been big about EVE-O, but I'm ready to spit in the face of whichever Titan pilot thinks they run sh!t.
Can't wait for the time to come.
PSN: PiercingSerenity Country: US Class: Assault/Logistics |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.09.28 03:49:00 -
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Or the planetside Jita Scams.
Give me any number of dropsuits and I will pay them back to you doubled. |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.28 03:49:00 -
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Titan pilots aren't needed, I'll bombard you via Catalyst variant |
Ayures II
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Posted - 2012.09.28 04:23:00 -
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lol |
Cortez The Killer
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.09.28 04:40:00 -
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It will be some time before Dust Bunnies will have the clout to throw around to Eve. From what I gather on the interviews, the dev team and CCP leadership would like to eventually see that Dusters do have a significant influence in the tides of battle within New Eden. It kind of seems like the whole point of this grand experiment. There is no reason to think that the same comraderie and treachery will be excluded. I guarantee you that the extortion schemes are already in play, as is jockeying for competent incoming clans/corps.
Reminds me of Baghdad, circa 1993. |
VK deathslaer
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.28 04:46:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:I just finished reading about some big EVE scandals and player riots. It got me thinking about how cool it was to make a change in a video game just by working together. Then I started thinking about how badly I wanted to wreck EVE as a Duster (Or Dust Bunny. Whatever we're called).
For all of the hate on Swarms and AV grenades, and hundreds of "Tanks are OP" threads, I hope EVE is ready for ProtomanX, Bad Furry, and the rest of Dust 514. I've never been big about EVE-O, but I'm ready to spit in the face of whichever Titan pilot thinks they run sh!t.
Can't wait for the time to come.
PSN: PiercingSerenity Country: US Class: Assault/Logistics
u realize we pretty much own your contracts right? but thats beside the point. Why should a duster feel inclined to **** in a capsileers cheerios? we're apart of the same community here, you'll need us but we don't necessarily need you atm. I'm sorry but your chest beating has failed. dusters need to undstand how to organize groups outside of they're own PR and all that. Time and time again people in eve dismissed this minute detail and payed the price. eve players are willing to do any means necessary to win will you? will you spend the time infiltrating, orchestrating back room deals, major fleet and ground ops. jack prices so high your side can't afford anything, ect...
its not oh i'm gonna stomp on all eve players cuz i have a cool weapon, my corp's kdr is top notch, and we have 1k players. none absolutely none of that matters if you aren't willing to do as said above. the planning of these things is tremendous. its no longer a question of is dust better then eve or vice versa, its who is willing to comprimise and work together in an organized fashion. this my friend is where the bonds of warriors is formed. Where formidable alliances are forged through the fires of war and brotherhood. this, i one day would like to see, one where the lines of dust and eve aren't competitions but collaborations. fighting and thinking as one our future my friends this is us.
VK |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.09.28 04:50:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Or the planetside Jita Scams.
Give me any number of dropsuits and I will pay them back to you doubled.
lmao, yes, this. +1
Welcome to New Eden, where if it's not nailed down, under guard and encrypted people will try to steal it. If it is... well, they'll just try to shoot you and hope that helps them steal it |
Nexus Dragoon 514
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.28 04:55:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:I just finished reading about some big EVE scandals and player riots. It got me thinking about how cool it was to make a change in a video game just by working together. Then I started thinking about how badly I wanted to wreck EVE as a Duster (Or Dust Bunny. Whatever we're called).
For all of the hate on Swarms and AV grenades, and hundreds of "Tanks are OP" threads, I hope EVE is ready for ProtomanX, Bad Furry, and the rest of Dust 514. I've never been big about EVE-O, but I'm ready to spit in the face of whichever Titan pilot thinks they run sh!t.
Can't wait for the time to come.
PSN: PiercingSerenity Country: US Class: Assault/Logistics
sorry i got to say this but why is it "PiercingSerenity" sounds like a porno and as for " I've never been big about EVE-O," you can tell. titans pilot dont run bugger all they cant, read up on it they might think they do but its most likely there alt. its not a ship you can dock and store while you do other stuff. if you dont get it yet without eve there is no dust what your playing now are test match's really. if eve went under dust would just end thats it game over! |
Ayures II
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Posted - 2012.09.28 05:18:00 -
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Cortez The Killer wrote:Reminds me of Baghdad, circa 1993.
More like Somalia, present day. |
Cortez The Killer
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.09.28 05:27:00 -
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VK deathslaer wrote:Piercing Serenity wrote:I just finished reading about some big EVE scandals and player riots. It got me thinking about how cool it was to make a change in a video game just by working together. Then I started thinking about how badly I wanted to wreck EVE as a Duster (Or Dust Bunny. Whatever we're called).
For all of the hate on Swarms and AV grenades, and hundreds of "Tanks are OP" threads, I hope EVE is ready for ProtomanX, Bad Furry, and the rest of Dust 514. I've never been big about EVE-O, but I'm ready to spit in the face of whichever Titan pilot thinks they run sh!t.
Can't wait for the time to come.
PSN: PiercingSerenity Country: US Class: Assault/Logistics u realize we pretty much own your contracts right? but thats beside the point. Why should a duster feel inclined to **** in a capsileers cheerios? we're apart of the same community here, you'll need us but we don't necessarily need you atm. I'm sorry but your chest beating has failed. dusters need to undstand how to organize groups outside of they're own PR and all that. Time and time again people in eve dismissed this minute detail and payed the price. eve players are willing to do any means necessary to win will you? will you spend the time infiltrating, orchestrating back room deals, major fleet and ground ops. jack prices so high your side can't afford anything, ect... its not oh i'm gonna stomp on all eve players cuz i have a cool weapon, my corp's kdr is top notch, and we have 1k players. none absolutely none of that matters if you aren't willing to do as said above. the planning of these things is tremendous. its no longer a question of is dust better then eve or vice versa, its who is willing to comprimise and work together in an organized fashion. this my friend is where the bonds of warriors is formed. Where formidable alliances are forged through the fires of war and brotherhood. this, i one day would like to see, one where the lines of dust and eve aren't competitions but collaborations. fighting and thinking as one our future my friends this is us. VK
*Tries to read, applies bandages to eyes, and ultimately gives up.* Fix this Sh*t
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mongo flash
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.28 05:56:00 -
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This post made me giggle.
A few thing tho before u get you hole feet wet with kittens on eve players. I don't think you realize how big and how old and how organised the eve community is. You realize that people in eve have been stealing cheating and back stabing eachother for close to 10 years and you think that some group of fps twitchers are going to come on seen and show us something that hasn't already been done or thought of? At most you will be a pawn in an eve players plot to screw some other eve player. It will be a long long time before a dust Bunny is going to be able to effect eve in more than a feather ruffle.
Next point I remind you that he who controls the high ground... guess who has it and guess who doesn't. It will be hard to spit in the eye of that titan pilot that's sitting in a ship the size of New York that's in space when you are in your assault suit on the ground. Just saying.
Plus you would be amiss to think that the titan wielding alliance's are going to get mercs they don't know to do anything important for them. you would be sadly wrong. You realise that there are alliance's with thousands of members and allies right. You think they arnt going to have their own dust mercs?
Don't get me wrong I would love to read about a duster giving it to an eve player. Its a sand box and its this type of stuff that makes it fun. But I think you should aim alittle lower before you start shooting for the stars. So to speak. |
Cortez The Killer
Immobile Infantry
187
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Posted - 2012.09.28 06:22:00 -
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I'm coming to find how old and organized some of the incoming groups are. Many false perceptions are circulating.
Within New Eden we do have long standing histories between alliances, corporations, and individual players. The meta game is established and vibrant. Smoky backroom deals happen at every level. Backdoor intel happens at all levels, and trust is a big deal. Trust even in your enemies.
Mr. mongo, you'll find that titan weilding alliances have yet to see Dust as any significance at all. Those uf us that do play Dust at this point are generally considered to be mildly "less than brilliant". (the word I had was nixed) |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2012.09.28 07:07:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Titan pilots aren't needed, I'll bombard you via Catalyst variant
i believe the new warbarges and dreads are the only one that can bombard, and dread bombardment is much more dynamic and effective. |
Scurvy Granger
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.28 08:02:00 -
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mongo flash wrote:This post made me giggle. A few thing tho before u get you hole feet wet with kittens on eve players. I don't think you realize how big and how old and how organised the eve community is. You realize that people in eve have been stealing cheating and back stabing eachother for close to 10 years and you think that some group of fps twitchers are going to come on seen and show us something that hasn't already been done or thought of? At most you will be a pawn in an eve players plot to screw some other eve player. It will be a long long time before a dust Bunny is going to be able to effect eve in more than a feather ruffle. Next point I remind you that he who controls the high ground... guess who has it and guess who doesn't. It will be hard to spit in the eye of that titan pilot that's sitting in a ship the size of New York that's in space when you are in your assault suit on the ground. Just saying. Plus you would be amiss to think that the titan wielding alliance's are going to get mercs they don't know to do anything important for them. you would be sadly wrong. You realise that there are alliance's with thousands of members and allies right. You think they arnt going to have their own dust mercs? Don't get me wrong I would love to read about a duster giving it to an eve player. Its a sand box and its this type of stuff that makes it fun. But I think you should aim alittle lower before you start shooting for the stars. So to speak. I would agree with this except that Dust corps will be able to hold their own planets...so a pawn not so much. Plus another wise person says to not underestimate your opponents which it seems alot of EVE players are doing.
EVE is established, powerful, and knows what to expect in the current New Eden. EVE is not invincible, and as far as the EVE players getting into Dust, everyone has their style of play that they are best at FPS may not be theirs. FPS consolers have been waiting for a game of this caliber for quite some time and you may yet be surprised by what they can do when they get organized.
Also make no mistake, they ARE getting organized. EVE players should start seeking their alliances and mercenary contracts with the FPSers before they end up on the wrong side of their crosshairs. Dust may need to show some respect to EVE, but EVE needs to return that respect or they may not like the result. Dusters CAN build weapons to shoot down your beautiful ships.
"...titan wielding allainces are going to get mercs they don't know..." I see it happening, when your planets start falling to a different corp you're gonna want the best and quick...but wait you barely know them, they are just mercs can you trust them. As long as you pay the best you can. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2012.09.28 09:54:00 -
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Well this is just your typical FPS player not quite getting the whole dynamic at hand here. One's ability to perform well in an FPS game is so stupidly meaningless in actually affecting things in EVE it's not even worth considering as a factor. Oh you killed the enemy and captured the Skyfire and blew up some EVE ship in orbit? Woo......no one cares. People lose ships all the time in EVE, and although it can sometimes sting, its just the cost of doing business. Blowing up some ship in orbit will change very little, it won't cause a shift in power, it wont take out an alliance, it won't do anything. Your ability to shoot people on the ground means nothing.
Like someone said before, FPS ability has nothing to do with your cunning in the meta game. You can come riding in here on your ego horse and act like you're going to outsmart the EVE players because you can shoot people in the head...let me tell you, they will devour you. Non-EVE players are joining the game late, and everyone that's been around in EVE for a long time is going to put all of the new players to shame if they go showboating around thinking they'll make a difference.
Is EVE ready for players like protoman and BAD FURRY? Truth is, they don't give a ****. They are ants on a rock, and as individuals they are of no consequence to EVE in the least. All the EVE players care about is how they can use the Dust players to make a profit. To them, you are just tools and a means to an end. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.09.28 10:59:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Well this is just your typical FPS player not quite getting the whole dynamic at hand here. One's ability to perform well in an FPS game is so stupidly meaningless in actually affecting things in EVE it's not even worth considering as a factor. Oh you killed the enemy and captured the Skyfire and blew up some EVE ship in orbit? Woo......no one cares. People lose ships all the time in EVE, and although it can sometimes sting, its just the cost of doing business. Blowing up some ship in orbit will change very little, it won't cause a shift in power, it wont take out an alliance, it won't do anything. Your ability to shoot people on the ground means nothing.
Like someone said before, FPS ability has nothing to do with your cunning in the meta game. You can come riding in here on your ego horse and act like you're going to outsmart the EVE players because you can shoot people in the head...let me tell you, they will devour you. Non-EVE players are joining the game late, and everyone that's been around in EVE for a long time is going to put all of the new players to shame if they go showboating around thinking they'll make a difference.
Is EVE ready for players like protoman and BAD FURRY? Truth is, they don't give a ****. They are ants on a rock, and as individuals they are of no consequence to EVE in the least. All the EVE players care about is how they can use the Dust players to make a profit. To them, you are just tools and a means to an end.
This is very true, one thing i see people constantly fail to see is there are EVE players who are good at FPS games.
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Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.09.28 11:01:00 -
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Personally I wonder how many Dust players ARE EVE players. And more to the point how many EVE player Corps are extending an arm into Dust. FW is growing (and CCP has plans for it to become even bigger) plus there's the eventual rollout into Null Sec. We've already seen Goons on the Dust boards, I wonder how many others (tho honestly Goons is big enough to have an impact regardless). |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.09.28 11:04:00 -
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BAD FURRY, exclusively using anything that's OP, all day, every day. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.09.28 11:10:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Personally I wonder how many Dust players ARE EVE players. And more to the point how many EVE player Corps are extending an arm into Dust. FW is growing (and CCP has plans for it to become even bigger) plus there's the eventual rollout into Null Sec. We've already seen Goons on the Dust boards, I wonder how many others (tho honestly Goons is big enough to have an impact regardless).
TEST and Pandemic Legion are also here at the very least. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.09.28 11:14:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Cross Atu wrote:Personally I wonder how many Dust players ARE EVE players. And more to the point how many EVE player Corps are extending an arm into Dust. FW is growing (and CCP has plans for it to become even bigger) plus there's the eventual rollout into Null Sec. We've already seen Goons on the Dust boards, I wonder how many others (tho honestly Goons is big enough to have an impact regardless). TEST and Pandemic Legion are also here at the very least.
So we're looking at (directly or indirectly) the confirmed involvement of thousands of EVE players from the word 'go'. Or from before the word go lol
If a Dust player (who's new to New Eden) wants to make a splash I think the best idea is "who can I make alliances with" as opposed to "who can I try to gun down". Because really shifting the balance of power is a much more plausible way to impact New Eden than trying to pick up a rifle and come at it head on. That latter one will be fun to watch from the outside but isn't likely to get you very far. |
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Tyrael Valdare
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.09.28 11:15:00 -
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But But But what about those Dust trailers that say how one shot can destroy an empire huh huh huh? How bout that huh? |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.09.28 11:24:00 -
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Its the butterfly effect. |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.28 11:38:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Titan pilots aren't needed, I'll bombard you via Catalyst variant i believe the new warbarges and dreads are the only one that can bombard, and dread bombardment is much more dynamic and effective.
It's the destroyer class that will get a bombardment variant/bonus |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.09.28 11:44:00 -
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Yes, I'm sure EVE players will have no idea what hit them once some annoying furry guy and some random other guy start... uh... making bad posts on a public Dust release forum rather than a private closed beta forum? Why will EVE players give two ***** about anyone in Dust, again? |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.09.28 11:45:00 -
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Tyrael Valdare wrote:But But But what about those Dust trailers that say how one shot can destroy an empire huh huh huh? How bout that huh?
Butterfly effect |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.09.28 11:47:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Yes, I'm sure EVE players will have no idea what hit them once some annoying furry guy and some random other guy start... uh... making bad posts on a public Dust release forum rather than a private closed beta forum? Why will EVE players give two ***** about anyone in Dust, again?
Ask Test Alliance or Goonswarm. Some of them seem to care. |
Cobra of Chulak
Aideron Robotics
12
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Posted - 2012.09.28 11:57:00 -
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o_0
Wow... OP sure seems misinformed. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.09.28 12:11:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Yes, I'm sure EVE players will have no idea what hit them once some annoying furry guy and some random other guy start... uh... making bad posts on a public Dust release forum rather than a private closed beta forum? Why will EVE players give two ***** about anyone in Dust, again? Ask Test Alliance or Goonswarm. Some of them seem to care.
about what bad posting? |
Reefersmokintaz
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2012.09.28 12:12:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:I just finished reading about some big EVE scandals and player riots. It got me thinking about how cool it was to make a change in a video game just by working together. Then I started thinking about how badly I wanted to wreck EVE as a Duster (Or Dust Bunny. Whatever we're called).
For all of the hate on Swarms and AV grenades, and hundreds of "Tanks are OP" threads, I hope EVE is ready for ProtomanX, Bad Furry, and the rest of Dust 514. I've never been big about EVE-O, but I'm ready to spit in the face of whichever Titan pilot thinks they run sh!t.
Can't wait for the time to come.
PSN: PiercingSerenity Country: US Class: Assault/Logistics
lol that post made me LOL, seriously. Eve players give 2 sh*ts as to who Protoman or Bad Furry is. Protoman already proved his ego is so big, his head wont fit through the da*n EVE gate. Once it does, it will get deflated by the hungry masses of EVE players waiting to blow some dust bunnies up. I am an EVE player of only 3 years and have seen many coalitions get stomped by spies, chunks of space get flipped overnight, clouds of Titans popping and my clone's freezing corpse getting swooped up for someones sick idea of a collection. A person maybe known now but in a few months, he will be another nameless face in the crowd ready to be killed for the greater good of their Alliance or corp. |
mongo flash
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.09.28 12:57:00 -
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Cortez The Killer wrote:I'm coming to find how old and organized some of the incoming groups are. Many false perceptions are circulating.
Within New Eden we do have long standing histories between alliances, corporations, and individual players. The meta game is established and vibrant. Smoky backroom deals happen at every level. Backdoor intel happens at all levels, and trust is a big deal. Trust even in your enemies.
Mr. mongo, you'll find that titan weilding alliances have yet to see Dust as any significance at all. Those uf us that do play Dust at this point are generally considered to be mildly "less than brilliant". (the word I had was nixed)
Eh. ya. That was my point. They don't see dusters as threats because they arnt and I doubt they will be for some time if at all. The only way I see dusters being able to smote a titan pilot as the original poster has suggested would be if they were used by eve players in some larger eve skeem the same way a chess player uses pawns. |
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Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.09.28 13:00:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Ask Test Alliance or Goonswarm. Some of them seem to care.
No, they don't. The only people who know who bad furry or protoman or anyone else is are the people who frequent these forums. |
Ayures II
33
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Posted - 2012.09.28 13:17:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Ask Test Alliance or Goonswarm. Some of them seem to care. No, they don't. The only people who know who bad furry or protoman or anyone else is are the people who frequent these forums.
Testie here. I've seen them a lot. I still don't care about them, though. |
mongo flash
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.09.28 13:20:00 -
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Plus I would also like to add that I think it is cute how the op assumes that titan pilots are the ones in charge.
Titan pilots are more often then not, alts and are used more for bridges than for fighting. But you go and shoe them who is boss from your drop suit on some planet in the middle of some system they have never heard of |
Metaleroz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.09.28 13:30:00 -
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I see truth in what everyone has posted in this thread but everyone should recognize the possibilties that are before us. You may say that Dusters will kick ass ( a couple of names that have been posted in this thread already are, atleast mine a couple of times.) and you may say that Eve vets will abuse Dusters ( as that is in mind of a lot who are waiting for complete game integration). But I see a much dangerous and wonderful future, one I know a lot share, is that of huge powerful corps living and breathing in both games as they are two sides to a same coin, two ways to conquer and spread mayhem in one universe and two ways to grow and dominate in the heavens, on the ground, in the back alleys and under the tables. I am just one but like me thay are many, we might not be mayority but as many lost civilizations have learned the hard way victory does not always go hand in hand with overwhelming numbers but who has learned to use every and all means possible to obtain that elusive victory. All I know for sure is that I am gonna have a hell of a time playing this game, I always wanted to play Eve online but I do not have enough time to be able to fully enjoy it. I will try to be as active as I can in Dust 514. I wish you all, Eve vets and Dusters alike, a very good day, with a new dawn the tides are a changin-¦. Keep up the great work CCP cause this is epic. |
Katya Thurn
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.09.28 13:43:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Personally I wonder how many Dust players ARE EVE players. And more to the point how many EVE player Corps are extending an arm into Dust. FW is growing (and CCP has plans for it to become even bigger) plus there's the eventual rollout into Null Sec. We've already seen Goons on the Dust boards, I wonder how many others (tho honestly Goons is big enough to have an impact regardless).
I get the feeling that the majority of DUST mercs in the beta are not playing EVE Online although I may be mistaken. CCP has stated there will be very few negative effects for EVE capsuleers from the actions of DUST mercs so I don't think there will be too much to worry about. DUST 514 will be fully implemented within Factional Warfare in New Eden but I don't see it affecting nul-sec sovreignty. The CSM will see to that I expect. |
uruz7 fish
FDF Industries Hedonistic Imperative
108
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Posted - 2012.09.28 14:51:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:I just finished reading about some big EVE scandals and player riots. It got me thinking about how cool it was to make a change in a video game just by working together. Then I started thinking about how badly I wanted to wreck EVE as a Duster (Or Dust Bunny. Whatever we're called).
For all of the hate on Swarms and AV grenades, and hundreds of "Tanks are OP" threads, I hope EVE is ready for ProtomanX, Bad Furry, and the rest of Dust 514. I've never been big about EVE-O, but I'm ready to spit in the face of whichever Titan pilot thinks they run sh!t.
Can't wait for the time to come.
PSN: PiercingSerenity Country: US Class: Assault/Logistics
awesome post! I would love to put those eve guys in their place! we should team up and share our resources to beat those evetards into submission.
Can't wait till we can share gear! I have tonnes of stuff that you can have access too, just need you to share your stuff too! |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.09.28 16:17:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:
This is very true, one thing i see people constantly fail to see is there are EVE players who are good at FPS games.
Well I don't like to really whip out the e-peen but I feel I'm pretty good at FPS games, and I also play EVE. I'm no huge player in the meta game, but I know enough of what goes on to know that most of these Dust players are in way over their head....despite how large said head might be. |
Lonewolf514
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Posted - 2012.09.28 17:07:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:
This is very true, one thing i see people constantly fail to see is there are EVE players who are good at FPS games.
Well I don't like to really whip out the e-peen but I feel I'm pretty good at FPS games, and I also play EVE. I'm no huge player in the meta game, but I know enough of what goes on to know that most of these Dust players are in way over their head....despite how large said head might be.
ye but your old :P
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.09.28 18:00:00 -
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Is 24 the new "old"? |
Lonewolf514
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Posted - 2012.09.28 18:02:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Is 24 the new "old"?
maybe old enough to have played really good games so i'll take that back.
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.09.28 18:13:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Is 24 the new "old"?
That makes me really old. |
Lonewolf514
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Posted - 2012.09.28 18:30:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Is 24 the new "old"? That makes me really old.
ah well knowlage is power. |
DILLIGAD
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Posted - 2012.09.28 18:32:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Is 24 the new "old"? That makes me really old.
Gawd! If you are old;- then Im ancient or sentient being! |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.09.28 18:33:00 -
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DILLIGAD wrote:
Gawd! If you are old;- then Im ancient or sentient being!
what? |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.09.28 18:37:00 -
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DILLIGAD wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Is 24 the new "old"? That makes me really old. Gawd! If you are old;- then Im ancient or sentient being!
yeah I've found that I'm often one of the younger players when it comes to EVE and Dust. At first this bothered be a bit but then I saw games like CoD that's full of 14 year olds and I decided that playing with older players is far better. |
fred orpaul
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
211
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Posted - 2012.09.28 19:54:00 -
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Scurvy Granger wrote:mongo flash wrote:This post made me giggle. A few thing tho before u get you hole feet wet with kittens on eve players. I don't think you realize how big and how old and how organised the eve community is. You realize that people in eve have been stealing cheating and back stabing eachother for close to 10 years and you think that some group of fps twitchers are going to come on seen and show us something that hasn't already been done or thought of? At most you will be a pawn in an eve players plot to screw some other eve player. It will be a long long time before a dust Bunny is going to be able to effect eve in more than a feather ruffle. Next point I remind you that he who controls the high ground... guess who has it and guess who doesn't. It will be hard to spit in the eye of that titan pilot that's sitting in a ship the size of New York that's in space when you are in your assault suit on the ground. Just saying. Plus you would be amiss to think that the titan wielding alliance's are going to get mercs they don't know to do anything important for them. you would be sadly wrong. You realise that there are alliance's with thousands of members and allies right. You think they arnt going to have their own dust mercs? Don't get me wrong I would love to read about a duster giving it to an eve player. Its a sand box and its this type of stuff that makes it fun. But I think you should aim alittle lower before you start shooting for the stars. So to speak. I would agree with this except that Dust corps will be able to hold their own planets...so a pawn not so much. Plus another wise person says to not underestimate your opponents which it seems alot of EVE players are doing. EVE is established, powerful, and knows what to expect in the current New Eden. EVE is not invincible, and as far as the EVE players getting into Dust, everyone has their style of play that they are best at FPS may not be theirs. FPS consolers have been waiting for a game of this caliber for quite some time and you may yet be surprised by what they can do when they get organized. Also make no mistake, they ARE getting organized. EVE players should start seeking their alliances and mercenary contracts with the FPSers before they end up on the wrong side of their crosshairs. Dust may need to show some respect to EVE, but EVE needs to return that respect or they may not like the result. Dusters CAN build weapons to shoot down your beautiful ships. "...titan wielding allainces are going to get mercs they don't know..." I see it happening, when your planets start falling to a different corp you're gonna want the best and quick...but wait you barely know them, they are just mercs can you trust them. As long as you pay the best you can.
well said sir! If dust is done any justice dust bunnies will be as pervasive a force as eve players in this universe, and if all goes well, we should see a lot of true merc corps that will be used for their reputation to get **** done and not because they are run by trusted players.
While dust bunnies wont be pissing all over eve pilots(I dont think they have that level of bladder pressure) I look forward to the same level of meta game that will cause the destruction and creation of eve and dust coalitions alike.... Which I think was to point of the parent post, so stop getting all but hurt you drama filled little girls.
also you all wish you were asa bad ass at eve/dust as me! |
fred orpaul
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
211
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Posted - 2012.09.28 20:06:00 -
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Ayures II wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Ask Test Alliance or Goonswarm. Some of them seem to care. No, they don't. The only people who know who bad furry or protoman or anyone else is are the people who frequent these forums. Testie here. I've seen them a lot. I still don't care about them, though.
Im gonna have to agree. When I see these two playing well with a successful corp in Null then I might give a crap, but being able to do one thing well as an individual does not mean you will be good or even useful in the dust end game.
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Typo Name
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Posted - 2012.09.29 01:43:00 -
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I'm betting that 90% of the dust population of eve corps (on day 1) will be people "infiltrating" from the enemy corp. |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.09.29 02:15:00 -
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All I can say is this: the first time someone Skyfire Batteries a Titan will be the best day in DUST. Ever.
Imagine the SP and ISK! The salvage!
Kill Titan +10,000,000,000
SP - 4,500,000 Possible booster bonus - 1,246,000 ISK - 1,320,000,000
Salvage - 1,450 Balac's Assault Rifle 900 Sagaris 1 Basic Shield Regulator
... LOL! XD |
Nexus Dragoon 514
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.29 05:48:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:All I can say is this: the first time someone Skyfire Batteries a Titan will be the best day in DUST. Ever.
Imagine the SP and ISK! The salvage!
Kill Titan +10,000,000,000
SP - 4,500,000 Possible booster bonus - 1,246,000 ISK - 1,320,000,000
Salvage - 1,450 Balac's Assault Rifle 900 Sagaris 1 Basic Shield Regulator
... LOL! XD got to stop and laugh at this that would be like shooting a squirt gun are an elephant. if they even notice its wouldnt be enough to even warrant it firing back lol not even a titan can kill another titan in a single shot not even 100. i dont think you have ever seen one in game, let alone been in a fight with one. you clearly dont get the scale of it and how your going to salvage a titan when its (if you could kill it) in space being picked clean in eve. you wouldnt get any salvage. Balac's Assault Rifle, Sagaris, and Basic Shield Regulators are not titan parts. |
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Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.09.29 06:18:00 -
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Tyrael Valdare wrote:But But But what about those Dust trailers that say how one shot can destroy an empire huh huh huh? How bout that huh?
Well, the right shot could have some interesting effects.
The down side is that if it has large effects it means you've gotten someones attention and it's likely not going to be a good day after that. Unless you have friends in which case it may work out quite nicely.
The real impact of Dust on EVE isn't going to come from "Dust vs EVE" it's going to come from new alliances forming between Dust and EVE players and the possible shifts in the balance of power that will result.
Cheers, Cross
ps ~ yes I know your post was all in good fun |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.29 07:20:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:All I can say is this: the first time someone Skyfire Batteries a Titan will be the best day in DUST. Ever.
Imagine the SP and ISK! The salvage!
Kill Titan +10,000,000,000
SP - 4,500,000 Possible booster bonus - 1,246,000 ISK - 1,320,000,000
Salvage - 1,450 Balac's Assault Rifle 900 Sagaris 1 Basic Shield Regulator
... LOL! XD
OK, this made me cackle.
+1 to you, good sir.
But if a Skyfire could engage a Titan, then the Titan could bring down a strike with it's Doomsday.
And that is one of those kinds of weapons where everything and everyone on the map (or maybe in the entire district) is free-floating atoms when its all over. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.09.29 07:28:00 -
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Yeah...considering Titans can be upwards of 17km long...our entire map would fit inside it's rectum. Skyfire might tickle a little. |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
291
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Posted - 2012.09.29 07:34:00 -
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Was looking for this:
EVE Size Comparison: Gallente Edition
Just as an aside to put ship sizes into perspective for Dusters. I'm not sure if they have released information on just how big the War Barge is yet. |
Unit-775
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.29 07:38:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Yeah...considering Titans can be upwards of 17km long...our entire map would fit inside it's rectum. Skyfire might tickle a little.
Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote: got to stop and laugh at this that would be like shooting a squirt gun are an elephant. if they even notice its wouldnt be enough to even warrant it firing back lol not even a titan can kill another titan in a single shot not even 100.
They fit a doomsday onto a titan ? How big could be a gun you fit onto a planet ? How many could be fit onto a planet ? How big could be the shield batterys on a planet installation ? Who is gona take out these shield batterys without ground forces aka Dusters ?
now come back with your lousy +£ber Titan and we talk again about firepower and size. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.09.29 09:58:00 -
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Minmatar Slave 74136 wrote:Was looking for this: EVE Size Comparison: Gallente EditionJust as an aside to put ship sizes into perspective for Dusters. I'm not sure if they have released information on just how big the War Barge is yet.
Personally i prefer the picture version of that, theres another one somewhere with titans on it.:
http://www.umluex.at/bilder/eve/EVE-ships.jpg
I'm going to put a warbarge somewhere around carrier/freighter size. |
Nexus Dragoon 514
BetaMax.
78
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Posted - 2012.09.29 10:46:00 -
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Unit-775 wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Yeah...considering Titans can be upwards of 17km long...our entire map would fit inside it's rectum. Skyfire might tickle a little. Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote: got to stop and laugh at this that would be like shooting a squirt gun are an elephant. if they even notice its wouldnt be enough to even warrant it firing back lol not even a titan can kill another titan in a single shot not even 100.
They fit a doomsday onto a titan ? How big could be a gun you fit onto a planet ? How many could be fit onto a planet ? How big could be the shield batterys on a planet installation ? Who is gona take out these shield batterys without ground forces aka Dusters ? now come back with your lousy +£ber Titan and we talk again about firepower and size.
clearly you have never seen a titan and dont really know what your talking about. there will be no titan slaying guns on the ground. do a little research first, or you start making really dumb comments, about stuff you have no idea about. |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
291
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Posted - 2012.09.29 12:03:00 -
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Personally, I see a lot of chestbeating and talking past each other from both sides of the EVE/DUST fence. I suppose that makes me on the fence, since I play both games.
It is still my .02 that the norm will become alliances who have both DUST and EVE corps under their banners, as well as corps who have a combination of both - in order to coordinate their efforts with an integral fleet and ground arm. essentially having your forces 'in house' |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.09.29 12:05:00 -
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Minmatar Slave 74136 wrote:Personally, I see a lot of chesbeating and talking past each other from both sides of the EVE/DUST fence. I suppose that makes me on the fence, since I play both games.
It is still my .02 that the norm will become alliances who have both DUST and EVE corps under their banners, as well as corps who have a combination of both - in order to coordinate their efforts with an integral fleet and ground arm. essentially having your forces 'in house'
+1 Think you nailed it.
Now can we all get back to shooting the Amarr and Caldari? |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.09.29 12:08:00 -
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Minmatar Slave 74136 wrote:Personally, I see a lot of chesbeating and talking past each other from both sides of the EVE/DUST fence. I suppose that makes me on the fence, since I play both games.
It is still my .02 that the norm will become alliances who have both DUST and EVE corps under their banners, as well as corps who have a combination of both - in order to coordinate their efforts with an integral fleet and ground arm. essentially having your forces 'in house'
I think thats the plan for a lot of the large EVE powers providing Dust keeps its promises. |
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
172
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Posted - 2012.09.29 12:40:00 -
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Meh. The chestbeaters will just be targets since they'll be spouting how good they are and what they can do and all of that while the shadier Dust corps will be slowly, but steadily, building up their empire so that they can ONE day become a mighty force in the EVE Universe. I'm pretty sure there is no real way of telling what impact Dust players will have but to just usher off the Dust players is kinda silly.
Imo. To be successful a Dust CEO must work with successful EVE corporations or get a trusty EVE advisor to help them pick which and what contracts to take and what planets would yield the best return of ISK (We get ISK for holding planets and gathering resources right?) but also wouldn't screw us over in the long run as far as being targets for certain corporations and pirates.
^And that's only for the Dust Corps who don't fully intergrated themselves into an exisiting corporation like the Goons(that's there name right?). Dusties who are in major corporations and acting like their PMC or army or whatever word you would like to use would be just a wing on those beasts. In the long run they'll also have a powerful standing and would make for a strong solo corps but would stay with said corporation because of their successful history, ISK gain, and combined reputation.
>.> Only my $0.2 with some cloudy info but I believe that's how they're going to work. |
Nexus Dragoon 514
BetaMax.
78
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Posted - 2012.09.29 13:11:00 -
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what a lot of people dont get is that titans and a good 95% of eve ships will only be able to support ships that can orbital strike dust. and these ships cant target from orbit. dust players have to do that. come on guys this is all old news. dont worry about what going to come if you have not even read what we already know |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.09.29 14:06:00 -
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Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote:what a lot of people dont get is that titans and a good 95% of eve ships will only be able to support ships that can orbital strike dust. and these ships cant target from orbit. dust players have to do that. come on guys this is all old news. dont worry about what going to come if you have not even read what we already know
Wait so I can't use my Noctis to bombard Dust players from orbit? |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.29 14:12:00 -
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I dont see it that way
I see it as EVE & DUST |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
291
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Posted - 2012.09.29 14:12:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote:what a lot of people dont get is that titans and a good 95% of eve ships will only be able to support ships that can orbital strike dust. and these ships cant target from orbit. dust players have to do that. come on guys this is all old news. dont worry about what going to come if you have not even read what we already know Wait so I can't use my Noctis to bombard Dust players from orbit?
You going to drop a bay full of salvaged space junk on them?
Come to think of it, that might be kinda fun...
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