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HowDidThatTaste
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:19:00 -
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I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better than the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build? |
crazy space
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:36:00 -
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not this build. tech 2 is better. and advanced is cheaper and just as good. |
REGNUM'XY2K ASSAULT RIFLE
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:40:00 -
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I use proto heavey |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.09.26 18:00:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better then the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build?
No offense,but it boggles my mind how many people and how often people don't know the difference between using the word "then" and "than".
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Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
251
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Posted - 2012.09.26 18:04:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better then the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build? No offense,but it boggles my mind how many people and how often people don't know the difference between using the word "then" and "than".
No offense, but it boggles my mind how you could be so foolish as to not put a space after that comma. And also how you didn't put the period inside the quotation marks. SMH. |
DILLIGAD
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Posted - 2012.09.26 18:10:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better then the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build?
Armor Reps with max Repair skill! If you have that then the Tier 3 dropsuit is great! |
HowDidThatTaste
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Posted - 2012.09.26 18:13:00 -
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DILLIGAD wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better then the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build? Armor Reps with max Repair skill! If you have that then the Tier 3 dropsuit is great!
Yes I have those maxed too. Not seeing a huge reason to pay that much more for a quicker repair to my armor. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1900
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Posted - 2012.09.26 18:14:00 -
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I haven't wasted a single SP over T2 on any of the suits. They by FAR give you the best bang for your buck. Proto suits are kind of a joke right now. |
Tarn Adari
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
157
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Posted - 2012.09.26 18:18:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better then the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build? No offense,but it boggles my mind how many people and how often people don't know the difference between using the word "then" and "than". No offense, but it boggles my mind how you could be so foolish as to not put a space after that comma. And also how you didn't put the period inside the quotation marks. SMH.
I couldn't care less about small grammar or spelling errors, but if you have to correct people, you should know what you're talking about. The period would only be inside the quotation marks, if there was a complete sentence inside the quotation marks. In this case the quotation marks are used to tag the two words as objects instead of an adverb/conjunction. |
DILLIGAD
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Posted - 2012.09.26 18:18:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:DILLIGAD wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better then the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build? Armor Reps with max Repair skill! If you have that then the Tier 3 dropsuit is great! Yes I have those maxed too. Not seeing a huge reason to pay that much more for a quicker repair to my armor.
Whats your loadout? I run a Broadside or Gastun loadout with SMGs and AV nades with max HMG skills and max heavy skills. Mid proficiency skills. Takes a lot of power. But i rack up kills like crazy and heal fast. 10+ Hp/sec. In 30 seconds im generally full. After a couple of deaths i switch to a type 2. |
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HowDidThatTaste
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Posted - 2012.09.26 18:25:00 -
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DILLIGAD wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:DILLIGAD wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better then the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build? Armor Reps with max Repair skill! If you have that then the Tier 3 dropsuit is great! Yes I have those maxed too. Not seeing a huge reason to pay that much more for a quicker repair to my armor. Whats your loadout? I run a Broadside or Gastun loadout with SMGs and AV nades with max HMG skills and max heavy skills. Mid proficiency skills. Takes a lot of power. But i rack up kills like crazy and heal fast. 10+ Hp/sec. In 30 seconds im generally full. After a couple of deaths i switch to a type 2.
I run the type II 531 shields 527 armor
+5 armor repair
It is by far better than anything I've tried on advanced and proto. Because of the mobility it offers along with cost. |
DILLIGAD
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Posted - 2012.09.26 18:34:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:DILLIGAD wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:DILLIGAD wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better then the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build? Armor Reps with max Repair skill! If you have that then the Tier 3 dropsuit is great! Yes I have those maxed too. Not seeing a huge reason to pay that much more for a quicker repair to my armor. Whats your loadout? I run a Broadside or Gastun loadout with SMGs and AV nades with max HMG skills and max heavy skills. Mid proficiency skills. Takes a lot of power. But i rack up kills like crazy and heal fast. 10+ Hp/sec. In 30 seconds im generally full. After a couple of deaths i switch to a type 2. I run the type II 531 shields 527 armor +5 armor repair It is by far better than anything I've tried on advanced and proto. Because of the mobility it offers along with cost.
Ive gone a few games with 0 deaths using my proto. With the type 2 i generally die a few times. The one time i got a good logi with my proto I went 36-0. He just kept healing my while I kept killing people.
I also use my proto for decoys when I am with my squad. i just run and people follow me. Easy kills for my squads.
Protos have a lot of advantages if you got a good squad. |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.09.27 04:58:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better then the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build? No offense,but it boggles my mind how many people and how often people don't know the difference between using the word "then" and "than". No offense, but it boggles my mind how you could be so foolish as to not put a space after that comma. And also how you didn't put the period inside the quotation marks. SMH.
Because neither are correct.The space is optional,but the period inside the quote is all wrong.
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Ruthra V25
Conspiratus Immortalis
40
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Posted - 2012.09.27 05:33:00 -
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Not this build. I see no point in it.
No point in any suit but proto assault. Four proto assault can cover everything a squad could need, thats with equipment.
In this build as things are.
If its same next build I will just use assault for everything. AV, Recon, Logi, oh yeah Assault. |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
Doomheim
83
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Posted - 2012.09.27 06:53:00 -
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The main advantage of VK.O dropsuit is one extra high-slot, not the quantity of armor/shield. VK.0 allow you to deal more dmg from your main weapon. I think that's why people use it(and because of fancy colour's :P). |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.27 12:46:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better then the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build? No offense,but it boggles my mind how many people and how often people don't know the difference between using the word "then" and "than".
Offense taken grammar ***** will is are haz be hunted down shot den teabagged. Dat is all.
Also yea performance of the VK.0 is so small its just not worth it if your tight on isk. |
ertert1
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2012.09.27 13:16:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better then the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build? No offense,but it boggles my mind how many people and how often people don't know the difference between using the word "then" and "than". No offense, but it boggles my mind how you could be so foolish as to not put a space after that comma. And also how you didn't put the period inside the quotation marks. SMH.
LOL! |
Darky SI
232
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Posted - 2012.09.27 13:17:00 -
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Yup the cost and the performance of the higher tier heavy suits doesn't worth it, i run Type-2 with 500+ shield and armor and its doing great.
Obviously there is something wrong with current Heavy suits balance thats why you don't see many use them, as i said before the heavy users are minority in this beta and CCP is doing nothing to promote for this suit in fact i saw many people who were planning to specialize on heavy changed there minds after 2 build with no apparent fix for this suit and tbh am thinking to switch too if this continue. |
Riot Ruckus
Doomheim
56
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Posted - 2012.11.03 08:02:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better than the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build?
If it had another low slot i would use it. |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2012.11.03 08:06:00 -
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Riot Ruckus wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better than the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build? If it had another low slot i would use it.
This. I don't think anything past advanced is worth it. |
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Kleanur Guy
SyNergy Gaming
154
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Posted - 2012.11.03 10:37:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:Riot Ruckus wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better than the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build? If it had another low slot i would use it. This. I don't think anything past advanced is worth it.
Armor tank with more high slots than low slots >:(.
Not worth it. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2012.11.03 10:58:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I haven't wasted a single SP over T2 on any of the suits. They by FAR give you the best bang for your buck. Proto suits are kind of a joke right now.
not really
consider the B-Series and vk.1 suits are the T2 suit with more slots and more CPU/PG u can fit alot more high end stuff on ur suit |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2012.11.03 11:05:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I haven't wasted a single SP over T2 on any of the suits. They by FAR give you the best bang for your buck. Proto suits are kind of a joke right now. not really consider the B-Series and vk.1 suits are the T2 suit with more slots and more CPU/PG u can fit alot more high end stuff on ur suit
When it comes to heavies though there isn't much point going past advanced gear. |
Darky Kuzarian
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
143
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Posted - 2012.11.03 11:07:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:
I run the type II 531 shields 527 armor
+5 armor repair
It is by far better than anything I've tried on advanced and proto. Because of the mobility it offers along with cost.
Same here Type-2 with 531 shield and 527 armor, after I max out my HMG operations, adavance and proto suits will be an after thought.
i could careless about the number of slots or CPU/PG on the upper tier when they cost 100+ isk and seeing how easy to kill a heavy they are not a good investments. |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
194
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Posted - 2012.11.03 12:42:00 -
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If this is only ISK matter.. it is small cost to pay.. and win.
There was a lot fights that 1% of extra stuff decide to win...
When time is come... you will pay any ISK for the case. |
4447
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.11.03 12:44:00 -
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REGNUM'XY2K ASSAULT RIFLE wrote:I use proto heavey
Yea, so anyone use proto heavy? |
Reimus Klinsman
BetaMax.
319
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Posted - 2012.11.03 14:54:00 -
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crazy space wrote:not this build. tech 2 is better. and advanced is cheaper and just as good.
Tier, not tech. We don't have any Tech 2 suits yet. You got my hopes up for a second. |
EGOMAN VIV
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2012.11.03 15:09:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:If this is only ISK matter.. it is small cost to pay.. and win.
There was a lot fights that 1% of extra stuff decide to win...
When time is come... you will pay any ISK for the case.
sadly its not about the isk Jack, the current stats of the heavy suit as you go up grade are disappointing there is almost no incentive to upgrade to the higher tiers.
The biggest problem i see is the amount of shield and armor being the same for all tiers its just wrong people needs more than a slot with few CPU/PG increase people need to increase there Survivability & performance when they decided to upgrade there stuff. |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
194
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Posted - 2012.11.03 15:53:00 -
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You must pay a lot for few PG/CPU more... and one slot. Yes... I know
But when ISK will be no problem... So then.. still militia? :)
Ppl will use best that they can acquire... no mater if this cost little fortune and give them only fancy light at top of box.
They buy it.. trash it and do it again.
Waste? Maybe. But this cant stop them from doing this.
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Tyrus Four
128
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Posted - 2012.11.03 19:33:00 -
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Unfortunately, I spread my SPs waaaaaaaay too thin, so I have not gotten to Proto anything yet. :(
I was experimenting with all the weapons to decide which ones I wanted to use. Still undecided between SMG and Pistol, but next build when we reset, I have a much clearer idea of how I want to build my character, so no more wasted SP. |
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HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2242
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:03:00 -
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Just checking if anyone is even considering a proto heavy the next few weeks? |
Reimus Klinsman
BetaMax.
319
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:17:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better then the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build? No offense,but it boggles my mind how many people and how often people don't know the difference between using the word "then" and "than". No offense, but it boggles my mind how you could be so foolish as to not put a space after that comma. And also how you didn't put the period inside the quotation marks. SMH.
It has always bugged me that the punctuation belonging to the sentence is susposed to go inside the quotes. I mean, if you are quoting something that doesn't end in a period, why have a period in there. English is bullshit. so if the quote is "then" and "than." does that mean that the correct sentence would be "..reason it is better than. the much.." |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:19:00 -
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I use skinweave its cheap. |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:23:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:You must pay a lot for few PG/CPU more... and one slot. Yes... I know
But when ISK will be no problem... So then.. still militia? :)
Ppl will use best that they can acquire... no mater if this cost little fortune and give them only fancy light at top of box.
They buy it.. trash it and do it again.
Waste? Maybe. But this cant stop them from doing this.
Best poster to read, I read his posts with a Russian accent. |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2242
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:41:00 -
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Belzeebub Santana wrote:Jack Boost wrote:You must pay a lot for few PG/CPU more... and one slot. Yes... I know
But when ISK will be no problem... So then.. still militia? :)
Ppl will use best that they can acquire... no mater if this cost little fortune and give them only fancy light at top of box.
They buy it.. trash it and do it again.
Waste? Maybe. But this cant stop them from doing this.
Best poster to read, I read his posts with a Russian accent.
IT definetly does make the posts even better with a Russian accent . |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:44:00 -
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Belzeebub Santana wrote:Jack Boost wrote:You must pay a lot for few PG/CPU more... and one slot. Yes... I know
But when ISK will be no problem... So then.. still militia? :)
Ppl will use best that they can acquire... no mater if this cost little fortune and give them only fancy light at top of box.
They buy it.. trash it and do it again.
Waste? Maybe. But this cant stop them from doing this.
Best poster to read, I read his posts with a Russian accent.
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.11.28 02:33:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Just checking if anyone is even considering a proto heavy the next few weeks?
My heavy dropsuit progression tree looks like this: Skinweave ~> Type II Advanced.
There is no incentive to move up to the more advanced suits.
My two cents is that what should change as we go up the suit tiers is damage resists, with varying shield/armor resists by race. |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2242
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Posted - 2012.11.28 03:04:00 -
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Here we are 3 months and two builds. And no one has gone for a proto heavy suit since they took out the extra HP.
Why have Proto heavy suits if no one sees any reason to use them in their current state?
Something needs to be done to increase the desire to run a proto heavy. The obvious solution is more slots and CPU
Or higher HP or auto armor repair allowing the actual use of the low slots for anything other than armor repair.
We really need to balance out the heavy better, I see proto assault everywhere and even a few logi and scout but not one single proto heavy.
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.11.28 03:07:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Here we are 3 months and two builds. And no one has gone for a proto heavy suit since they took out the extra HP.
Why have Proto heavy suits if no one sees any reason to use them in their current state?
Something needs to be done to increase the desire to run a proto heavy. The obvious solution is more slots and CPU
Or higher HP or auto armor repair allowing the actual use of the low slots for anything other than armor repair.
We really need to balance out the heavy better, I see proto assault everywhere and even a few logi and scout but not one single proto heavy.
The price is too damn high. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.11.28 04:24:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Here we are 3 months and two builds. And no one has gone for a proto heavy suit since they took out the extra HP.
Why have Proto heavy suits if no one sees any reason to use them in their current state?
Something needs to be done to increase the desire to run a proto heavy. The obvious solution is more slots and CPU
Or higher HP or auto armor repair allowing the actual use of the low slots for anything other than armor repair.
We really need to balance out the heavy better, I see proto assault everywhere and even a few logi and scout but not one single proto heavy.
I like the idea of built-in armor repair, HowDidThatTaste. It fits the heavy perfectly. With a couple of reppers and no stacking penalty from the built-in repping the higher tier suits might become attractive. The nice thing about armor repping is that it's only an advantage if you play smart.
Your idea is more interesting than that though - if CCP designs a couple more lowslot modules it would be great for adding some variety to the heavy suit. A built-in nanohive lowslot module would be welcome, ofc, but i'm sure there are better ideas than that out there.
With a few interesting and useful modules, extra lowslots could be the motivation for peeps to invest the skillpoints in the upper tier dropsuits. |
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Sake Monster
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
353
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Posted - 2012.11.28 07:36:00 -
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I am 200,000 sp away from my Proto heavy, will have it tomorrow after downtime. Mainly going for it because i bought 400 Vk.1's when I had Eve money. It's true that the incentive isn't great, but this will all be wiped eventually anyway so... What the hell, ill check it out. |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2242
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Posted - 2012.12.08 14:23:00 -
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Anyone even considering it?
@ sake... good luck mate it is not gonna help you at our 1v 1. If it does I'm so gonna hafta get mine. |
Hollow M Ling
Doomheim
30
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Posted - 2012.12.08 14:40:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Anyone even considering it? @ sake... good luck mate it is not gonna help you at our 1v 1 . If it does I'm so gonna hafta get mine.
At those prices I wouldn't. |
Gaff Origami
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
49
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Posted - 2012.12.08 15:12:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:You must pay a lot for few PG/CPU more... and one slot. Yes... I know
But when ISK will be no problem... So then.. still militia? :)
Ppl will use best that they can acquire... no mater if this cost little fortune and give them only fancy light at top of box.
They buy it.. trash it and do it again.
Waste? Maybe. But this cant stop them from doing this.
I completely agree.
At this point in the game it makes more sense to use the best "value" configurations. Eventually when things start getting real after the final wipe it will be like an arms race. Corps will pay any amount of ISK for the smallest advantage. Some will pay to use top tier gear just for bragging rights, even in Public matches where there is no point.
This is very much like real life, there is no point in driving a Ferrari in Manhatten...but people do it anyway. |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
Doomheim
83
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Posted - 2012.12.08 15:58:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Here we are 3 months and two builds. And no one has gone for a proto heavy suit since they took out the extra HP.
Why have Proto heavy suits if no one sees any reason to use them in their current state?
Something needs to be done to increase the desire to run a proto heavy. The obvious solution is more slots and CPU
Or higher HP or auto armor repair allowing the actual use of the low slots for anything other than armor repair.
We really need to balance out the heavy better, I see proto assault everywhere and even a few logi and scout but not one single proto heavy.
Beyond adding more slots, or CPU/PG more adv. suits could also be batter at scanning. |
Fargen Icehole
SyNergy Gaming
67
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Posted - 2012.12.08 16:21:00 -
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Figured I'd chime in too, as a fellow heavy.
It's just not worth going past adv level type2. The cost of a spec'd up proto/complex fit, using proto suit and HMG, complex mods, etc, is near half a million isk. You just don't get that much more benefit over even just the standard type2 fit. And the standard suit, with adv gun, and complex mods will only run you around 80k isk. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.12.08 16:31:00 -
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Bet it'll still get OHKed by my remote explosives |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.12.08 17:42:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=46293&find=unread
Heavies are broken, expect them to be deleted at launch - there's just no real way to balance out defense and offense between casual and hardcore players for heavies. anything CCP does will always seem to tip the scale in hardcores favor, and there's no real way to balance a fight between assault and heavy. We're either like every other suit and have multiple choices or we're the only suit that can only do one of two things. Defense and AV. But if that's our only roles - hardly anyone will choose anything but assaults. |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2012.12.08 20:36:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=46293&find=unread
Heavies are broken, expect them to be deleted at launch - there's just no real way to balance out defense and offense between casual and hardcore players for heavies. anything CCP does will always seem to tip the scale in hardcores favor, and there's no real way to balance a fight between assault and heavy. We're either like every other suit and have multiple choices or we're the only suit that can only do one of two things. Defense and AV. But if that's our only roles - hardly anyone will choose anything but assaults.
If they are deleted, I will be sad. I'm sick of assault suits everywhere, so I'll go back to being a logi, even though CCP doesn't do much for them either.
As an alternate suggestion for making proto suits actually worth something, what if they had better built in resistances. I don't play EVE, but from what I've seen different ships have different resistances to different damage types- what if proto heavies had better resistance compared to the other suits. It would make them able to take more damage, without directly increasing the hp. Although randoms would probably cry that it's too ha to kill heavies because they have so much health blah blah blah and get them nerfed again. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.12.14 00:44:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=46293&find=unread
Heavies are broken, expect them to be deleted at launch - there's just no real way to balance out defense and offense between casual and hardcore players for heavies. anything CCP does will always seem to tip the scale in hardcores favor, and there's no real way to balance a fight between assault and heavy. We're either like every other suit and have multiple choices or we're the only suit that can only do one of two things. Defense and AV. But if that's our only roles - hardly anyone will choose anything but assaults.
Your argument is a good one Sota, but if heavies go something important will be lost.
I believe that balance is not the be-all and end-all that it is in other FPSs. And we've yet to see how CCP will address the hardcore/casual issue, but with security status, flexible contracts, matchmaking filters and gamemodes they've got a lot of tools at their disposal.
As an assault i NEED to have that Oh ****! experience of unexpectedly meeting a heavy and running for cover like a little girl. On a regular basis.
Heavies are one of the things that make DUST DUST. CCP is getting close to a sweet spot with the current tank/dps/cost balance on the lower tier suits. Now they need to tweak the top end and let us playtest that. |
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GOLD IS GOOD BABY! just one thing were my BIG GOLD GUN AT HONEY |
MassiveNine
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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I have my B class heavy now and I love it. I probably won't go to proto this build, but I definitely recommend getting the B. |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects
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Posted - 2012.12.14 02:10:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:I have my B class heavy now and I love it. I probably won't go to proto this build, but I definitely recommend getting the B.
I recently got my b too and can't decide if I like it better or not. Are you using double repair or one of the shield regulators, do those things even work? |
William HBonney
Imperfects
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Posted - 2012.12.14 02:51:00 -
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"Th3rdSun wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:I have been dabbling with it but can't see any reason it is better then the much cheaper tier II suit. Anyone feel it is worth using this build? No offense,but it boggles my mind how many people and how often people don't know the difference between using the word "then" and "than".
It is suppose to be "than " not "then" . He had it correct in his OP. Than is used for comparison. Then is used for time frames, as in "You were being a grammar ****, then you were corrected." |
MassiveNine
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.12.14 03:06:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:MassiveNine wrote:I have my B class heavy now and I love it. I probably won't go to proto this build, but I definitely recommend getting the B. I recently got my b too and can't decide if I like it better or not. Are you using double repair or one of the shield regulators, do those things even work?
I felt with the less armor double repair isn't really needed. I've got a 5 h/p repair and it's plenty; I'm usually fully repaired by the time I make it to the next objective. No clue on the shield reg, I was so used to the slow shield rep on the A class it was going from coach to first class  |
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