...You stated to me that there was a GÇ£Heated debateGÇ¥ on your goon efforts in DUST. Could you elaborate on the parties involved and what was said?


I wouldn't so much say heated debate, it was more me getting yelled at by Goonwaffe directors for having an interest in Dust and trying to push that agenda, apparently they don't want to commit to it yet till they know just how much of an impact it's going to have on EVE and certainly not until we have the Crest API functionality that we've been promised as that's a major part of any Nullsec alliances security measures, Without that anyone could get in and gain access to our forums etc and obviously Goonwaffe don't want that. So we're going to start the GLA as a separate entity and use it as our foundation for Dust, treat is as a experiment for Dust/EVE interaction and also use to gauge just how much interest there is in Dust from the SA community and CFC members in EVE.

Who are these people and why should I care?

Goonfleet and their allies practically own half of EVE's most lucrative space (nulsec)
That is why.

From a numbers prospective Goons are the second largest/best alliance in Eve with TEST having only just surpassed them

Who are these people and why should I care?

Check out the Interview of Cerebral Wolf (CEO of GoonFeet) at "GOONFEET" (Goon's Invade DUST)

Teaser:




SO it's clear, I am anti-Goon

From a numbers prospective Goons are the second largest/best alliance in Eve with TEST having only just surpassed them

TEST = Goons.

Needs more Yellow i think.

Well, all that nice blue NC. space is falling to us, slowly but it's falling, they are putting up a good fight, not sure about Razor though.

It's possible, we're talking about the possibility of installing renters in the future now due to the Tech nerf and a few other things.

The only reason your beating NC. is you bring 1200 vs 400. If it's equal numbers (or even 2:1) you lose every time.

Goons in Dust won't have the numbers advantage.

Indeed the northern campaign looks to be loads of good fights.
Down south our bads don't undock tengu, and then badpost at each other.

Congrats on the new job btw.

Not to start with we wont, same as we didn't at the start of EVE, but give it some time and some trolling and we'll be just fine.

Besides, i was giving a compliment to NC. for putting up a good fight, why the need to complain?

Who's complaining? Just stating facts so people here who don't know (that your dirty blobbers ) are not being mislead into thinking Goons are anything special. Huge numbers win (sadly) in Eve atm.

Yea, goons main power comes from numbers. You guys gonna figure out how to have 124 vs 24 matches?

Edit: I find it funny someone actually trolled goons and took goonfeet.

+1 to that guy.

Who are these people and why should I care?

I guess the real-world equvalent would be a single miltary and manufacturing superpower that controlled a significant(can anybody quantify this for us?) proportion of all the oil wells on Earth.

Just replace oil wells with moon goo and Earth with New Eden.

Who are these people and why should I care?

Who's complaining? Just stating facts so people here who don't know (that your dirty blobbers ) are not being mislead into thinking Goons are anything special. Huge numbers win (sadly) in Eve atm.

TBQH..........everyone is gonna have to earn their rep in DUST simply because its a different game and while numbers will be important it wont be as important as in EVE imho

TEST = Goons.

goons never tell the truth . so the interview is pointless . if goons can gain in eve from playing dust they will try to take dust over just like they have in eve . been playing eve 8years and goons so need to go they been running eve to long now . we need a new power block in eve or null people are just going to move to high sec or leave game .

there's vast amounts of null space unpopulated much less populated by goon.. so if those ppl are too stupid to find those then they were never really null ppl anyway and should go back to high sec, creating even more unpopulated space by doing so

so somebody can finally list goonswarm accomplishments on the PS3 in terms of competitive gaming without this turning into a multipage thread where people try to tell me and my compatriots how it's wrong for us to underestimate a zerg in a 16v16 FPS game.

How old are you? You throw insults around like a 15 year old.

How old are you? You throw insults around like a 15 year old.

Mom jokes tend to be his thing. So now you know...

...and knowing is half the battle.

You hate goonswarm? Yet you had no problem with me. Well I've got some bad news for you...

We can't because people here are unable to tell the difference between Goonswarm and someone who is a Goon.

Goonswarm is a group of Goons who play EVE and have nothing to do with FPS games as a group, thats not to say that members of Goonwaffe, such as myself don't play FPS games because we do, we have other Goons who play FPS games and don't play EVE, the fact that everyone things Goons just play EVE are idiotic.

Not to mention that i've had this conversation with you multiple times and each time i've attempted to explain everything to you, from our EVE players to Goons in general and the fact their are Goons who play TF2 and MAG competitively but you're too big headed and stubborn to accept anything that's been said to you or even have a level headed conversation.

i simply was pointing out the fact to the so called 8 year eve vet that goon does not own the entire null space that there are vast amounts of null sec that are not populated. then i was randomly insulted by some fgt before he summoned his boyfriend, cerebral wolf, to do his forum battling for him which was pretty immature on his own part- cerebral apparently trying to score some points with his lover, so i resulted to more immaturity since these guys are morons anyway

If you were CFC, you would know how stupid that statement is. TEST has pretty much put together their own coalition, but they still work with us. Why do you think all their vids now say CFC + Honeybadgers?

Also, as a CFC member, if you're looking for world domination, its either us or getting steamrolled by us. Take your pick.

How hard is it to come up with a simple list of FPS accomplishments on the PS3? I've been asking for a simple list for the past several months and you guys still can't come up with the list.

This is exactly my point, you'd rather go around in circles than attempt to understand the whole culture of Goons and where they come from which is something you need to understand before this can even be answered.

It's like talking to a rock.

@ CW JR, how about just using google:

http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/EVE-DUST-514/This-interview-is-G-O-A-T-material/td-p/36333206

http://www.google.com/search?q=xprotoman23&sugexp=chrome,mod=19&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

http://www.google.com/search?q=xjumpman23&sugexp=chrome,mod=19&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

It's amazing what a search engine can find.

Nice diplomatic answer from another EV Drone, fact is reputation in EVE will be a big factor in Dust, don't matter if you like that or not or if its technically another game or not.

All the FPS clans that come here from other games maybe good at the FPS game but that won't win them everything they want, they are going to have to learn a lot about EVE first.

Sure there will be a lot of new names come up and some new potential alliances etc with it but if you think our EVE reputation and experience won't matter here you're clearly as blind as "The Hive Mind".

You hate goonswarm? Yet you had no problem with me. Well I've got some bad news for you...

How hard is it to come up with a simple list of FPS accomplishments on the PS3? I've been asking for a simple list for the past several months and you guys still can't come up with the list.

I'm sure their skills will earn them quite a lot, but their lack of serious ability at playing the political game will loose them a lot more. Anyone that plays the Nullsec game will know that.

Many have already ascertained your specific unemployability when evaluating you based on youtube clips and spergings on PSN forums. Rather, you shall be kept as a prize fighter- a toy if you will - to buy and sell. You've already proven you can do **** all when it comes to objectives and teamwork.

That being said, asking for specific achievements from an entropic swarm has not only been counterproductive, it's been amusing.

Wow this thread got rough, it brings me back to the EVE drama out there. To the GOONS as an Ex BRUCE member I give respect on your game to all who trash GOONS never **** in your back yard!!

My KD/R is all that matters, goons will get stomped.


GET AT MY MLG-PRO SKILLS

so somebody can finally list goonswarm accomplishments on the PS3 in terms of competitive gaming without this turning into a multipage thread where people try to tell me and my compatriots how it's wrong for us to underestimate a zerg in a 16v16 FPS game.

You're clearly the type of idiot thats going to fail horribly in Dust if you're unable and unwilling to make any effort with even your enemys.

How about you give me your list of FPS accomplishments?

I'm within the %1 of players who are actually good at this game. I've been dominating DUST514 ever since mid March when I was first invited to the beta. It's extremely hard to "fail" when your within the top tier of players on the game, and make a profit off of every match you play. It's extremely hard to "fail" when have map knowledge and can choke out anybody you play against on a map. It's extremely hard to fail when you understand vehicle warfare just as the biggest vehicle whores on this game. It's extremely hard to fail when you've figured out how to practically rain down OS almost at will. It's extremely hard to fail when you understand the mechanics of this game better than the biggest EVE nerd ( i mean no disrespect to EVE nerds either)

Prove to me that you aren't a bunch of zerging pansies and list your accomplishments i've been asking for the past several months I don't understand what's so hard about listing them out. What have you done competitively on the PS3?

its easy to list PS3 accomplishments... just PSN friend each other and you can see what games have been played and if those games award badges, what badges have been earned.


As for EvE and Goons... well personally i think Goons are Bullies :P... but if it wasn't them then it would be someone else.

VFK by January!

Some Podcasts and youtube vids to check out to find out more on Goons. Bottom line Goon's=Bad Guys

Anyone? lol

Hopefully as soon as the new World of Warcraft comes out... We wont see any goons fr a while.

So it looks like we're going to be limited in numbers for the next build as it's going to be on SISI not TQ, that means i've got to waste ISK and SP on setting the corp up rather than just throwing ISK at the problem.