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Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:02:00 -
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I waited months and months for this game and jumped immediately when the beta became available for $20 just to get a glimpse of what Dust might be. I gotta say, if it's gonna be anything similar to this, I'm terribly disappointed!
I got in the beta a couple months ago and was disappointed then. People in this forum kept telling me it would improve...well...it hasn't! They said that build was just bad...well....this one is too! In fact, I really see no improvements or changes from 2 months ago. I said back then that the beta we were playing would be basically the same game we would be playing and I still think that's true.
For all the time they had to plan and build this thing they sure have farted on it. At it's very most this could be considered a low grade-shooter worthy of being a $4.99 DLC that gets played for a week tops. I just see no possible way for them to make any money on this garbage.
Regardless of minor changes that will be made between now and release, this is the core game that wil be released, and it's just really pathetic!
I wish I could get my $20 back! |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:08:00 -
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Sorry you're dissatisfied with an incomplete game. |
Jaric Kieranson
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:13:00 -
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You need to learn what 'beta' means, obviously. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:13:00 -
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Oh no, your $20. Someone get the Prime Minister on the phone, we're taking this to the UN!
Seriously, what exactly were you expecting? "If it's gonna be anything similar to this"? No, man, don't fret, they're going to make it into a Hello Kitty themed racing game with the next build. |
Kane Fyea
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
65
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:14:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Oh no, your $20. Someone get the Prime Minister on the phone, we're taking this to the UN!
Seriously, what exactly were you expecting? "If it's gonna be anything similar to this"? No, man, don't fret, they're going to make it into a Hello Kitty themed racing game with the next build. With waffles. |
Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:15:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Sorry you're dissatisfied with an incomplete game. LOL!
I've played more betas than I care to list here. In every one of them the game we had in beta was basically the same game we had on release....this is no different. Aside from a few minor adjustments here and there, this is exactly the game you will be playing on release....notice I siad YOU will be playing. They've ganked me for enough cash already, don't think I'll fall for the old "it's a beta, it'll be better at release" line.
And...yes! I am dissatisfied with an incomplete game because aside from a complete trashing and rebuilding from the bottom up, I see no way to redeem this disaster!
Sorry bud, the "you don't know nuthin, this is only beta" doesn't work on me. I've seen way too many of them and know exactly how they all turn out. |
HT31
SIK NATION RISE of LEGION
57
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:16:00 -
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No improvements or changes in the last 2 months? The current build added many things to the game (sure there are patch notes somewhere) including squads.
And people keep saying the core game, what does that mean? Concept, graphics, controls, hit detection or any number of other things. For me the core game is the long run, the integration with eve. Even the market possibilities are enough to get me excited. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1594
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:19:00 -
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My troll senses have tingled. |
Sparten 269
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:19:00 -
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This beta is for TESTING PURPOSES not for you're enjoyment, it is also not representative of the final product. |
Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:20:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Oh no, your $20. Someone get the Prime Minister on the phone, we're taking this to the UN!
Seriously, what exactly were you expecting? "If it's gonna be anything similar to this"? No, man, don't fret, they're going to make it into a Hello Kitty themed racing game with the next build. Well...for 2 months I've been hearing how much it's going to change and be better and so far that's turned out to be nothing but hopeful disillusion.
You all enjoy yourselves....keep on playing and trying to convince yourselves that a miracle is gonna happen and they will **** out a decent game next build. Give em all your cash to play this pathetic excuse of a shooter. I'll be playing something entertaining!.
LMFAO @ all of you delusional hopefuls! |
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Sparten 269
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:21:00 -
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EVE beta was just like this one. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:23:00 -
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The game is planning on being free to play you know....
Major Assitch wrote:shooter worthy of being a $4.99 DLC
So...that's actually a pretty nice compliment -- for a work in progress.
I'm enjoying trying out lots of different things to see what's working & what isn't. Finally figured out how to fly the drop ships -- used a stationed rail gun to take out a sniper's dropship on top of a structure, then spent the rest of the match stopping him from sniping any more of my teammates. It was great maneuverability training. Almost got a squish
If there is something you'd like to see improved on I'd recommend dropping into the bugs or feedback section & bringing it up. The devs have done a good job of listening to everyone. |
Sparten 269
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:24:00 -
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Please leave this game, no one cares. http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Lrr_VVtyUA8&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DLrr_VVtyUA8 |
Kane Fyea
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
65
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:27:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Sorry you're dissatisfied with an incomplete game. LOL! I've played more betas than I care to list here. In every one of them the game we had in beta was basically the same game we had on release....this is no different. Aside from a few minor adjustments here and there, this is exactly the game you will be playing on release....notice I siad YOU will be playing. They've ganked me for enough cash already, don't think I'll fall for the old "it's a beta, it'll be better at release" line. And...yes! I am dissatisfied with an incomplete game because aside from a complete trashing and rebuilding from the bottom up, I see no way to redeem this disaster! Sorry bud, the "you don't know nuthin, this is only beta" doesn't work on me. I've seen way too many of them and know exactly how they all turn out. You haven't been in a "real" beta then. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:28:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Sorry you're dissatisfied with an incomplete game. LOL! I've played more betas than I care to list here. In every one of them the game we had in beta was basically the same game we had on release....this is no different. Aside from a few minor adjustments here and there, this is exactly the game you will be playing on release....notice I siad YOU will be playing. They've ganked me for enough cash already, don't think I'll fall for the old "it's a beta, it'll be better at release" line. And...yes! I am dissatisfied with an incomplete game because aside from a complete trashing and rebuilding from the bottom up, I see no way to redeem this disaster! Sorry bud, the "you don't know nuthin, this is only beta" doesn't work on me. I've seen way too many of them and know exactly how they all turn out.
You do realize that this is a TRUE BETA, not a GLORIFIED DEMO? |
Jaric Kieranson
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:28:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Sorry you're dissatisfied with an incomplete game. LOL! I've played more betas than I care to list here. In every one of them the game we had in beta was basically the same game we had on release....this is no different. Aside from a few minor adjustments here and there, this is exactly the game you will be playing on release....notice I siad YOU will be playing. They've ganked me for enough cash already, don't think I'll fall for the old "it's a beta, it'll be better at release" line. And...yes! I am dissatisfied with an incomplete game because aside from a complete trashing and rebuilding from the bottom up, I see no way to redeem this disaster! Sorry bud, the "you don't know nuthin, this is only beta" doesn't work on me. I've seen way too many of them and know exactly how they all turn out.
And when is the release date of the full game? Why does this beta HAVE to be the same as every other beta you've ever participated in?
I have to agree with Maken here. His troll tingly senses seem fairly accurate. |
Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:28:00 -
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This is an actual beta in that significant progress is still being made in the game as testing continues. Many "betas" - as you mention - exist basically to test the network and tighten up any last few bugs. This is not that kind of beta.
Quote:In fact, I really see no improvements or changes from 2 months ago.
Mmhmm...
Numerous balancing alterations (AV/Vehicle, Installations, etc.). Significant graphical improvement. Vastly faster UI/Menu navigation. Completely different battle joining mechanism. Squads; the ability to play with a group of three other selected players. Significant weapon variations and salvage.
So if you are seeing "no improvements or changes" you appear be completely unaware of gameplay mechanics, blind or lacking much in the way of visual acuity, unaware of the passage of time, and playing completely solo without once entering a battle, finishing a battle, or viewing the market. Which would make me wonder how you are playing this game...
Troll on, brother. |
Mr Schmoove
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:34:00 -
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Drake Lyons wrote:This is an actual beta in that significant progress is still being made in the game as testing continues. Many "betas" - as you mention - exist basically to test the network and tighten up any last few bugs. This is not that kind of beta. Quote:In fact, I really see no improvements or changes from 2 months ago. Mmhmm... Numerous balancing alterations (AV/Vehicle, Installations, etc.). Significant graphical improvement. Vastly faster UI/Menu navigation. Completely different battle joining mechanism. Squads; the ability to play with a group of three other selected players. Significant weapon variations and salvage. So if you are seeing "no improvements or changes" you appear be completely unaware of gameplay mechanics, blind or lacking much in the way of visual acuity, unaware of the passage of time, and playing completely solo without once entering a battle, finishing a battle, or viewing the market. Which would make me wonder how you are playing this game... Troll on, brother.
Bazinga! |
Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:35:00 -
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HT31 wrote:No improvements or changes in the last 2 months? The current build added many things to the game (sure there are patch notes somewhere) including squads.
And people keep saying the core game, what does that mean? Concept, graphics, controls, hit detection or any number of other things. For me the core game is the long run, the integration with eve. Even the market possibilities are enough to get me excited. For me the "core game" is just basically the feel of it. Does it draw me in and make me feel like part of the action? This game fails! All the controls are sloppy to the point of ridiculousness, they've made a joke of the Unreal engine, vision is horrible....nothing at all about the game lets me feel like I'm in a battle. It's just poor execution is all.
In their effort to make an MMO, they forgot to make a shooter (which was the promise). It just doesn't play like a decent shooter in any way.
As I said, I've been in many betas and in every one of them the release ended up just like the beta aside from some minor adjustments to physics, graphics, response, etc. The "feel" of the game is always the same as the beta. I can't exactly describe what I mean by "feel" but it's that thing that draws you into a game and gives you the feeling like you're actually part of it. Like when you get shot and you actually jump in your seat, or when you're in a firefight and your heart is really racing because you don't want to die. This beta lacks that completely! Playing it feels detached from the action, like playing a browser game where you're going through all of the actions and doing the thing but it's just something you're doing and not something you're a part of.
I hope that helps. For me it's just difficult to explain my meaning, but a game must make me feel like what I'm doing matters and I don't see it happening with this one....ever! Maybe some of you people do feel like this game is exciting...for me it's just blah. Playing is like going through the motions but not really feeling anything....like having sex while drunk....you're doing all the stuff but you just aren't connected to it.
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Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:42:00 -
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I guess to each his own. If you guys are happy with what you're playing then whatever. I just expected so much more. It's just not at all anything I could get excited about. No adrenaline rush, no feeling of fear that I'm gonna die so I better get to cover soon, no feeling of immediacy to do anything...it's just going through the actions without any reward.
Enjoy!
I tried it 2 months ago and was told then that it would get better. Aside from the changes you all say have been made, it's still just a boring pile of sh** IMO. If it's free to play on release then I might give it a shot then to see if it's any better like you all seem to think it will be. If it's not free then I'll just chalk it up to another disappointment that I had high hopes for. No biggie! After all, it's only a friggin game, there's thousands of others to choose from. |
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tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
675
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Posted - 2012.09.21 04:46:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Oh no, your $20. Someone get the Prime Minister on the phone, we're taking this to the UN!
Seriously, what exactly were you expecting? "If it's gonna be anything similar to this"? No, man, don't fret, they're going to make it into a Hello Kitty themed racing game with the next build. Well...for 2 months I've been hearing how much it's going to change and be better and so far that's turned out to be nothing but hopeful disillusion. You all enjoy yourselves....keep on playing and trying to convince yourselves that a miracle is gonna happen and they will **** out a decent game next build. Give em all your cash to play this pathetic excuse of a shooter. I'll be playing something entertaining!. LMFAO @ all of you delusional hopefuls!
So if you've been here two months then you weren't here for the build before the E3 build right? If you had been then you would see how far it's came. And by you saying you've played betas before, would one of those be the bf3 glorified demo with beta label? That TO THIS DAY they still can't get the goddam game right!! and they're STILL trying to fix it....and why is that? Because they didn't.....run....a......proper.......beta. They didn't do what ccp are doing, they didn't build the game based on the community's input, they did what THEY wanted to do. 'Hey dice, the maps are too big for 24 players on console, please increase to 48 at leaste', dice: 'no, although we have tested said amount of players, you're not getting it'.
'Hey ccp, the maps are really big, what's the chances of a player increase?' Ccp: 'sure fellas, how many do you want? You tell US what you want in the game'. See the difference there? ?
PS.........I suggest you change your name to major a$$hole if you think that your lame excuse of a troll thread is going to affect us in any way, see ya! |
Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.09.21 05:17:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Major Assitch wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Oh no, your $20. Someone get the Prime Minister on the phone, we're taking this to the UN!
Seriously, what exactly were you expecting? "If it's gonna be anything similar to this"? No, man, don't fret, they're going to make it into a Hello Kitty themed racing game with the next build. Well...for 2 months I've been hearing how much it's going to change and be better and so far that's turned out to be nothing but hopeful disillusion. You all enjoy yourselves....keep on playing and trying to convince yourselves that a miracle is gonna happen and they will **** out a decent game next build. Give em all your cash to play this pathetic excuse of a shooter. I'll be playing something entertaining!. LMFAO @ all of you delusional hopefuls! So if you've been here two months then you weren't here for the build before the E3 build right? If you had been then you would see how far it's came. And by you saying you've played betas before, would one of those be the bf3 glorified demo with beta label? That TO THIS DAY they still can't get the goddam game right!! and they're STILL trying to fix it....and why is that? Because they didn't.....run....a......proper.......beta. They didn't do what ccp are doing, they didn't build the game based on the community's input, they did what THEY wanted to do. 'Hey dice, the maps are too big for 24 players on console, please increase to 48 at leaste', dice: 'no, although we have tested said amount of players, you're not getting it'. 'Hey ccp, the maps are really big, what's the chances of a player increase?' Ccp: 'sure fellas, how many do you want? You tell US what you want in the game'. See the difference there? ? PS.........I suggest you change your name to major a$$hole if you think that your lame excuse of a troll thread is going to affect us in any way, see ya!
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Major Assitch
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.09.21 05:33:00 -
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Oh crap! Half an hour of typing was with that last quote and it's all lost. What a waste of time!
I won't go through it all again, just let me say a couple things and I'll let you all have it until release.
Right now this thing is boring! No, I wasn't here before E3 so I don't know how many changes have been done since then....don't care either. It was boring 2 months ago and it's still boring. If they don't start focusing on the shooter aspect of it soon then it's going to stay boring. Plus....it's not going to make any money! They're selling it as an MMO shooter but so far all I see is an MMO with lame shooter aspects added on as a side note.
It doesn't matter how much work they've done on it or will do on it. If they don't do the RIGHT work on it then it's gonna be a flop. Maybe you all can offer the right feedback to make it into something worth playing....maybe you can't, we'll see!
Telling others who have a disgreeable opinion to yours to leave isn't going to make this thing any better. It's exactly those people who the developers need to hear because they (we) will be the deciding factor whether it makes any money or not.
Sitting back and telling others that this is beta and it will be better at release isn't going to make it so!
Trying to convince people that find it boring into thinking it's really good isn't going to make it so.
I see no way to make this thing into a decent game at this point. Maybe I'll be proven wrong...I hope I am because I had highhopes of a long term investment in this game. Right now (and for the past 2 months) I find it boring, despite any changes they've made in the past 2 months, it's still boring! Like I said...all the work in the world won't make it a good game, it must be the RIGHT work.
One downside to long betas is that people have plenty of time to get bored with them and leave before the game even releases. I've seen it happen several times! Unless they start doing something to make this thing enjoyable and exciting, they won't have to worry about release because many would be players will have already decided it's crap.
Much work needs done in order to make this game exciting and enjoyable....it's about time they started doing that work!
If you disgree and think this is a great beta then that's OK by me. I had hoped for more excitement. Hopefully it's free to play so I get another chance to try it after release to see how much better you all helped them make it. As for what I've seen over 2 months of work on it I'm just a little less than confident that it's going to be an enjoyable game on release and aside from some really rave reviews from trusted friends, I wouldn't bother spending anything on it...and I'm not the only one! |
Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.21 05:34:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:If it's free to play on release then I might give it a shot then to see if it's any better like you all seem to think it will be.
Barring a major change of plans, it will be a free to play game.
And, like EVE, it will grow significantly over time.
Some people like that. They like to invest in a universe, in a character, that will last - we'll, EVE is closing in on a decade now. Other people want a quick fix that'll last for a little while before getting the next quick fix of similar gameplay.
See: Battlefield 1942, The Road to Rome, Secret Weapons of WWII, Battlefield 2, Special Forces, Euro Force, Armored Fury, Battlefield 3 Battlefield Vietnam, Battlefield 2: Modern Combat, Battlefield 2142, Northern Strike. Battlefield 1943, Battlefield: Bad Company, Battlefield: Bad Company 2.
See Also: Call of Duty, United Offensive, Finest Hour, Call of Duty 2, Big Red One, Call of Duty 3 Roads to Victory, Modern Warfare, Modern Warfare 2, Mobilized, Modern Warfare 3, Defiance, World at War, Final Fronts, Black Ops, Zombies, Declassified, Black Ops II.
Nothing wrong with either - there are plenty of options. DUST is a new and different choice. |
Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.21 05:37:00 -
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And I suppose I should add we are supposed to get a new patch pretty much anytime over the next week or two which seems to be offering some significant improvements... |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.09.21 07:07:00 -
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Major Assitch wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Sorry you're dissatisfied with an incomplete game. LOL! I've played more betas than I care to list here. In every one of them the game we had in beta was basically the same game we had on release....this is no different.
That's called a demo. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
675
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Posted - 2012.09.21 07:29:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Major Assitch wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Sorry you're dissatisfied with an incomplete game. LOL! I've played more betas than I care to list here. In every one of them the game we had in beta was basically the same game we had on release....this is no different. That's called a demo. RIGHT! I dont think half of some of em even know what beta means, they think a real beta reflects final code lmao |
Azmode Deamus
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2012.09.21 08:55:00 -
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The man said his peice and people act like children and flame him for it? Dust isn't for everyone. And hes disappointed with the way the game plays I'm sure of it. The gun game, graphics, and other things are not as tight as they should be. Will CCP keep adding animations and make the environments better before release? I sure hope so. As of now dust will fail if it is released or it won't succeed highly. If CCP were smart they won't release the game till the spring. Keep working on it until everything is integrated and it shocks people with how smooth the game is. How deep the mechanics are. And how tight the gun play is.
If you have nothin constructive to say don't say it all. I love how people are calling the OP a troll when they |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:05:00 -
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OP not interested in ur wurds but thankyou for your $20 to help support the game. You can find your own way out right |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
197
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:12:00 -
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\o/ i do enjoy these threads.
There's only so many times you can tell someone its a BETA tho. (That's not a pre-release to make some peeps feel special for getting into a game early. A real development beta) |
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