Uhh, erm.... You get more points fighting than you do repairing a vehicle you had a hard time getting collision damage on, to begin with.

I agree that it is a legitimate thing being exploited now, but it shouldn't be a balancing concern. You don't want to screw repair skills when we'll NEED repairers soon.

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Only an idiot would do this, after realising the amount of WP they are getting.(WP seems to be the factor in SP from what I can tell)

Honestly, it is not a legitimate thing being exploited now. They would be getting more SP playing properly, than they are repairing their vehicle. It's just idiotic. I've tried exploiting this already, weeks ago, and it gets you 100WP a game, at most, as it's fairly difficult to damage through a shield, and not destroy the LAV altogether. (doing it in a tank would work, but it would be really damn hard to accomplish)
And then, even if they did successfully do it, they'd have to do it again, and again, and again, receiving 25 points for a full dropship or LAV repair, with 50 points for a full tank repair.

Only an idiot would do this, after realising the amount of WP they are getting.(WP seems to be the factor in SP from what I can tell)

Problem can be solved. Just assign penalties for self inflicted damage (collision or friendly fire) for the player causing the damage. So if you're a bad driver or shooter and cause accidental damage then you should be penalized for it too. The amount of penalty should be as much as the repair will give, thus the repairers will still gain the WP, but the guy causing the damage to a friendly target will lose it thus keeping it in balance.

Damage your own vehicle and repair it. Free SP.... take away collision damage repair points as people are abusing the system to get sp....

Sounds reasonable, If someone is getting negative points they wouldnt be doing it. But driving an LAV, you do wreck, I wouldn't wanna cripple the use of the LAV because you get negative points for wrecking it. How would the game determine who was at fault in a collision with another LAV. I just say put on an armor rep and fix your LAV that way. I have noticed with CCP when something it being used as unintended they fix the problem. This is a problem.

I saw 2 infamous dust players exploiting this yesterday, they were on my team and instead of capturing the 5 objectives, they did this .all game

I wouldnt mind if it were noobs doing this but these 2 guys are the biggest tankwhore spammers in the game.
Hilarious how neither have dared to enter this thread.

I'm curious did you report yourself for SP boosting/cheating rolling around in your OP tanks not too long ago?

This brings up another solve, at least for the more egregious uses of it. CCP is recording data, it shouldn't be too hard to review the specific actions of any squad members who spend most of their time in one area of the map (like starting spawn zones) and who take no enemy damage while still taking consistent damage. If CCP has the data to conclusively determine whether an exploit is in use they could always penalize anyone who uses it by revoking all SP & ISK gained by them that day.
Even if they only spot check for use of the exploit the consequences would be harsh enough to stop most of it (which presumably would make the other instances stand out even more).

I saw 2 infamous dust players exploiting this yesterday, they were on my team and instead of capturing the 5 objectives, they did this .all game

I wouldnt mind if it were noobs doing this but these 2 guys are the biggest tankwhore spammers in the game.
Hilarious how neither have dared to enter this thread.

This brings up another solve, at least for the more egregious uses of it. CCP is recording data, it shouldn't be too hard to review the specific actions of any squad members who spend most of their time in one area of the map (like starting spawn zones) and who take no enemy damage while still taking consistent damage. If CCP has the data to conclusively determine whether an exploit is in use they could always penalize anyone who uses it by revoking all SP & ISK gained by them that day.
Even if they only spot check for use of the exploit the consequences would be harsh enough to stop most of it (which presumably would make the other instances stand out even more).

I saw 2 infamous dust players exploiting this yesterday, they were on my team and instead of capturing the 5 objectives, they did this .all game

I wouldnt mind if it were noobs doing this but these 2 guys are the biggest tankwhore spammers in the game.
Hilarious how neither have dared to enter this thread.

Saw one of the top 10 standing up on the mcc repairing it the whole game a couple of days ago......

Cross, you've hit the nail on the head once again. That is the perfect solution if they set up a computer algorithm to search out these instances and then review the results that turn up. This guy^is a genius.

Did a little boost testing. There are definitely various successful ways to boost at the moment that i hope get patched. I'll be sending emails to CCP with my results. In my testing with 3 men, you can attain an orbital roughly every 1 1/2 minutes and a combined 500,000+ SP amongst them in under 10 minutes. That's pretty substantial on its own, but with more guys involved and particular skills increased and more advanced equipment, it would be considerably more.

Keep in mind people, this is a beta. It is our job to find these issues. Don't get bent out of shape when you see people boosting in a beta. We are getting wiped and these things will be patched, so relax. As long as you pass the info on to CCP you can rest assured it'll be fixed in the final release and we'll all be better off.

well done youve ruined the game ,

Damage your own vehicle and repair it. Free SP.... take away collision damage repair points as people are abusing the system to get sp....