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Rayan Storm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.15 20:34:00 -
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Hey guys. I will be honest, when you ruled the battlefield and killed everything, it was actually kind of fun. A challenge to be honest. Now though, that challenge is gone, and tanks are rather easy to wipe out. So yes, even on the other side of the argument, some people agree with you all.
CCP, i think the tanks were edited a tad too much. Maybe they were too powerful, but hey, thats what real battle is like. I have a feeling that in real life, two/three grenades would not take out a full size tank
(Are the AV grenades weaker or is that just me?) |
Xavier Hastings
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
243
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Posted - 2012.09.15 20:39:00 -
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Rayan Storm wrote:Hey guys. I will be honest, when you ruled the battlefield and killed everything, it was actually kind of fun. A challenge to be honest. Now though, that challenge is gone, and tanks are rather easy to wipe out. So yes, even on the other side of the argument, some people agree with you all.
CCP, i think the tanks were edited a tad too much. Maybe they were too powerful, but hey, thats what real battle is like. I have a feeling that in real life, two/three grenades would not take out a full size tank
(Are the AV grenades weaker or is that just me?) Just like every thread on tanks I say: It crosses a line when tanks go on a hilltop and start sniping you. |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.15 20:41:00 -
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I was just thinking how much more enjoyable it is now! we really get to see the team work of certain crews. Have been in some epic battles yesterday and today. And oh guess what we were nit getting instant killed from no where. And oh there were several tanks in the matches. Much more fun.
Even the final scores reflected it no one ran away with huge kills and no deaths.
I think tank drivers forgot that AV had been nerfed most of this build along with the suits.
And the maps certainly favored tanks when they could one shot kill us, now they seem to think the maps don't favor them anymore? Huh?
Well different terrain means think about how you want to play it maybe its not good to run around in Tdm with a tank. Of course no one said anything before? |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.15 20:42:00 -
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Xavier Hastings wrote:Rayan Storm wrote:Hey guys. I will be honest, when you ruled the battlefield and killed everything, it was actually kind of fun. A challenge to be honest. Now though, that challenge is gone, and tanks are rather easy to wipe out. So yes, even on the other side of the argument, some people agree with you all.
CCP, i think the tanks were edited a tad too much. Maybe they were too powerful, but hey, thats what real battle is like. I have a feeling that in real life, two/three grenades would not take out a full size tank
(Are the AV grenades weaker or is that just me?) Just like every thread on tanks I say: It crosses a line when tanks go on a hilltop and start sniping you.
I've replied to this before. The fact remains this is the only thing tanks can still do effectively with no change do to these nerfs. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2012.09.15 20:44:00 -
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I think they're excellent adjustments when you consider what we're getting in the upcoming build. |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.15 20:44:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Xavier Hastings wrote:Rayan Storm wrote:Hey guys. I will be honest, when you ruled the battlefield and killed everything, it was actually kind of fun. A challenge to be honest. Now though, that challenge is gone, and tanks are rather easy to wipe out. So yes, even on the other side of the argument, some people agree with you all.
CCP, i think the tanks were edited a tad too much. Maybe they were too powerful, but hey, thats what real battle is like. I have a feeling that in real life, two/three grenades would not take out a full size tank
(Are the AV grenades weaker or is that just me?) Just like every thread on tanks I say: It crosses a line when tanks go on a hilltop and start sniping you. I've replied to this before. The fact remains this is the only thing tanks can still do effectively with no change do to these nerfs.
At least sniping takes some skill. |
Xavier Hastings
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
243
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Posted - 2012.09.15 20:45:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Xavier Hastings wrote:Rayan Storm wrote:Hey guys. I will be honest, when you ruled the battlefield and killed everything, it was actually kind of fun. A challenge to be honest. Now though, that challenge is gone, and tanks are rather easy to wipe out. So yes, even on the other side of the argument, some people agree with you all.
CCP, i think the tanks were edited a tad too much. Maybe they were too powerful, but hey, thats what real battle is like. I have a feeling that in real life, two/three grenades would not take out a full size tank
(Are the AV grenades weaker or is that just me?) Just like every thread on tanks I say: It crosses a line when tanks go on a hilltop and start sniping you. I've replied to this before. The fact remains this is the only thing tanks can still do effectively with no change do to these nerfs. Is that so? I honestly don't know, because all the tanks disappeared like it was the rapture. |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
358
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Posted - 2012.09.15 20:45:00 -
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I see the points you guys have. I guess i do have to agree. Teams really do work together better now, and i do not get long range sniped by a tank. So yes, i guess i do agree.
Still, i find it annoying that the first time i ever used a tank was right after the build, and i got annihilated immediately. |
Xavier Hastings
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
243
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Posted - 2012.09.15 20:48:00 -
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Was it Militia? |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.09.15 20:52:00 -
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Orbital Strikes need to kill tanks like at fanfest. |
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2012.09.15 20:53:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:Y ORBITAL STRIKE NO OHK HAVs?
CUZ ITS PUNY WARBARGE STRIKE, NOT ACTUAL ORBITAL BOMBARDMENT
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Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2012.09.15 21:12:00 -
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Xavier Hastings wrote:Rayan Storm wrote:Hey guys. I will be honest, when you ruled the battlefield and killed everything, it was actually kind of fun. A challenge to be honest. Now though, that challenge is gone, and tanks are rather easy to wipe out. So yes, even on the other side of the argument, some people agree with you all.
CCP, i think the tanks were edited a tad too much. Maybe they were too powerful, but hey, thats what real battle is like. I have a feeling that in real life, two/three grenades would not take out a full size tank
(Are the AV grenades weaker or is that just me?) Just like every thread on tanks I say: It crosses a line when tanks go on a hilltop and start sniping you.
Because never in history has a tank shelled a position from another elevated position |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
326
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Posted - 2012.09.15 21:12:00 -
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They're going to ad web generator on the next build. We will see how is going to turn out. I haven't spec fora tank yet, so I don't know how powerful they are. Militias shouldn't be that powerful,,proto types should be able to. Id say ccp is doing a great job balancing the issues, but this one is hard to balance because we are limited to weaponry at this point. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.15 23:21:00 -
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Xavier Hastings wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Xavier Hastings wrote:Rayan Storm wrote:Hey guys. I will be honest, when you ruled the battlefield and killed everything, it was actually kind of fun. A challenge to be honest. Now though, that challenge is gone, and tanks are rather easy to wipe out. So yes, even on the other side of the argument, some people agree with you all.
CCP, i think the tanks were edited a tad too much. Maybe they were too powerful, but hey, thats what real battle is like. I have a feeling that in real life, two/three grenades would not take out a full size tank
(Are the AV grenades weaker or is that just me?) Just like every thread on tanks I say: It crosses a line when tanks go on a hilltop and start sniping you. I've replied to this before. The fact remains this is the only thing tanks can still do effectively with no change do to these nerfs. Is that so? I honestly don't know, because all the tanks disappeared like it was the rapture.
Because sniping at long range doesn't care about the splash radius reduction or the reduced health. |
ReGnUm ReSuRgAM DEI
33
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Posted - 2012.09.15 23:42:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:I was just thinking how much more enjoyable it is now! we really get to see the team work of certain crews. Have been in some epic battles yesterday and today. And oh guess what we were nit getting instant killed from no where. And oh there were several tanks in the matches. Much more fun.
Even the final scores reflected it no one ran away with huge kills and no deaths.
I think tank drivers forgot that AV had been nerfed most of this build along with the suits.
And the maps certainly favored tanks when they could one shot kill us, now they seem to think the maps don't favor them anymore? Huh?
Well different terrain means think about how you want to play it maybe its not good to run around in Tdm with a tank. Of course no one said anything before?
I murdered your crew last night in TDM |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.15 23:46:00 -
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Rayan Storm wrote:Hey guys. I will be honest, when you ruled the battlefield and killed everything, it was actually kind of fun. A challenge to be honest. Now though, that challenge is gone, and tanks are rather easy to wipe out. So yes, even on the other side of the argument, some people agree with you all.
CCP, i think the tanks were edited a tad too much. Maybe they were too powerful, but hey, thats what real battle is like. I have a feeling that in real life, two/three grenades would not take out a full size tank
(Are the AV grenades weaker or is that just me?)
The problem is that they should just have fixed the bugs allowing near invincible shield tanks (and apparently to a lesser extend armour hardeners, though I'm weary to call those OP, they were hardly working before) |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.15 23:47:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I think they're excellent adjustments when you consider what we're getting in the upcoming build.
You keep saying that, so I'll keep saying this. They should have waited with the nerf till the NEXT build then. |
ReGnUm ReSuRgAM DEI
33
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Posted - 2012.09.15 23:50:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Xavier Hastings wrote:Rayan Storm wrote:Hey guys. I will be honest, when you ruled the battlefield and killed everything, it was actually kind of fun. A challenge to be honest. Now though, that challenge is gone, and tanks are rather easy to wipe out. So yes, even on the other side of the argument, some people agree with you all.
CCP, i think the tanks were edited a tad too much. Maybe they were too powerful, but hey, thats what real battle is like. I have a feeling that in real life, two/three grenades would not take out a full size tank
(Are the AV grenades weaker or is that just me?) Just like every thread on tanks I say: It crosses a line when tanks go on a hilltop and start sniping you. Because never in history has a tank shelled a position from another elevated position
Paran your a cool kid ... I get it. However, what I don't get is why yoour whining so much. Furthermore, what really makes me laugh all over, is how you complain that people whine for the tank nerf, when your the biggest whiner out of all the tankers here.
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.09.16 00:00:00 -
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That's cause he thinks if he whines enough CCP is gunna give him back his opsolowtfpwn mobile, tankers sealed their fate in the dev vs players game where they tanked the devs into the redline and gave them a taste of what players have been copping for weeks. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.16 00:10:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:That's cause he thinks if he whines enough CCP is gunna give him back his opsolowtfpwn mobile, tankers sealed their fate in the dev vs players game where they tanked the devs into the redline and gave them a taste of what players have been copping for weeks.
The devs were ****, and undermanned. running 4-8 man teams. Anything would redline that. |
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ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS
134
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Posted - 2012.09.16 00:17:00 -
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I'm luvvin this tanky '' hey i'm not a god anymore, i don't want to play like everyone else, i'm no good at FPS '' |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.09.16 00:17:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:That's cause he thinks if he whines enough CCP is gunna give him back his opsolowtfpwn mobile, tankers sealed their fate in the dev vs players game where they tanked the devs into the redline and gave them a taste of what players have been copping for weeks. The devs were ****, and undermanned. running 4-8 man teams. Anything would redline that.
Yes , but the tanks added insult to injury. Seriously, who in their right mind would pound the Devs with their favorite toy?
It's just screams, "See how annoying I really am?" |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.16 00:25:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:That's cause he thinks if he whines enough CCP is gunna give him back his opsolowtfpwn mobile, tankers sealed their fate in the dev vs players game where they tanked the devs into the redline and gave them a taste of what players have been copping for weeks. The devs were ****, and undermanned. running 4-8 man teams. Anything would redline that. Yes , but the tanks added insult to injury. Seriously, who in their right mind would pound the Devs with their favorite toy? It's just screams, "See how annoying I really am?"
People keep forgetting one MAJOR point. Tanks had bugs, especially shield tanks (Like the Sagaris), that made them very hard to kill. All they had to do were to FIX that bug, but noooo, they had to KILL tanks instead. If that is the result of the kill the devs battles, the devs are stupid and shallow beyond belief, and to be honest, I don't think they are. Misinformed by the near anti-tank only crowd on IRC (I've been there, I've seen this), definitely, but not stupid. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2012.09.16 00:28:00 -
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These changes are in anticipation of the upcoming changes, lots of new goodies coming down the pipe soon |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.16 00:39:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:These changes are in anticipation of the upcoming changes, lots of new goodies coming down the pipe soon
I repeat, as you do, that if the changes are in anticipation of goodies in the next build, they should have waited with the changes. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2012.09.16 00:41:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:These changes are in anticipation of the upcoming changes, lots of new goodies coming down the pipe soon I repeat, as you do, that if the changes are in anticipation of goodies in the next build, they should have waited with the changes.
Data collection waits for no man. Why didn't I see you campaigning when AV weapons were nerfed into the dirt? |
Typo Name
78
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Posted - 2012.09.16 00:50:00 -
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As a logi trying to repair the tanks, I like it more now. Not as boring, and more points for repairs. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.09.16 01:17:00 -
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Xavier Hastings wrote:Rayan Storm wrote:Hey guys. I will be honest, when you ruled the battlefield and killed everything, it was actually kind of fun. A challenge to be honest. Now though, that challenge is gone, and tanks are rather easy to wipe out. So yes, even on the other side of the argument, some people agree with you all.
CCP, i think the tanks were edited a tad too much. Maybe they were too powerful, but hey, thats what real battle is like. I have a feeling that in real life, two/three grenades would not take out a full size tank
(Are the AV grenades weaker or is that just me?) Just like every thread on tanks I say: It crosses a line when tanks go on a hilltop and start sniping you. In the Mexican-American war, Ulysses S. Grant had several of his men wrestle a cannon up into a bell tower so that they could easily fire down across the entire field.
That being said, I will reiterate that HAVs should require both a driver and a gunner to function. One man should not be able to fully operate a tank. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2012.09.16 01:42:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote: In the Mexican-American war, Ulysses S. Grant had several of his men wrestle a cannon up into a bell tower so that they could easily fire down across the entire field.
That being said, I will reiterate that HAVs should require both a driver and a gunner to function. One man should not be able to fully operate a tank.
I completely agree, this will really thin out the tank herd and leave a more dedicated group of support players in their wake, who don't mind working in teams. They should also add skills into the game for people using turrets, that way it encourages people who want to be dedicated turret operators.
The ONLY thing I'll say against the idea of splitting the turret from the driver, is they NEED to add in a kick player option, to boot people out of your turrets. This is NEEDED anyways, especially in dropships, but it would SUCK to be a tank driver and get some idiot troll in your main gun. When kicked from a turret, you can't enter again for 10-15 seconds. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.09.16 01:54:00 -
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Rayan Storm wrote: CCP, i think the tanks were edited a tad too much. Maybe they were too powerful, but hey, thats what real battle is like. I have a feeling that in real life, two/three grenades would not take out a full size tank
you're right, it should be one grenade. right into the tank hold and everyone inside gets turned to goo because someone climbed aboard.
and then the person gets to hack the tank because there is no one inside it. |
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