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Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:21:00 -
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There are people on irc from all different roles including some of the top tank drivers. I really find it hard to believe that someone is complaining about improved communication. It's like someone who is using letter writing complaining about someone using a telephone.
I know a lot of the IRC guys have actually gone out of there way to get the devs to participate more on the forums. IRC is open to all players and I'm sure the guys would love to discuss issues with you. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:29:00 -
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GM Unicorn wrote:What I'm always saying is "if you have a feedback, post in the appropriate section" because is more helpful DEV-side than a log. Jump in if you are curious ! That's all :)
Trying. Server is being coy. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:29:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Whats wrong if people use IRC to give the devs their opinions and feedback. Just like these forums irc is an important component in addressing any issues with the game; What is wrong is that there are no LOG for other people to see, this forum does at least provide that. Would you like to see a log of everything spoken amongst the devs as well. The fact of the matter is everything official will be stated publicly just because things are being discussed doesn't mean that they will happen. Go on IRC and keep record of everything that is said and post it if you'd like, you have the option to do that.
Of course not. I think I've used the terms "dev and player" a few times trying to clarify THAT aspect. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:32:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:I agree with the OP, forums should be the main source of info, special tidbits for the cool kids on IRC should stop. L2RL devs are real people who like talking to their fans. Nothing on IRC is official so you already have exactly what you are asking for. Yet the few dev "friends" seem to be passing on a lot of information, and Iron even have gone as far as boasting that he convinced a dev about some mechanics at some point. It may have been one of the other IRC users and I don't recall the details, but I do recall it came to pass, at the detriment of Tank drivers yet again.
I have never convinced them of anything. Trust me if I was doing such thing far less of you would be driving tanks now and DS controls be reverted. I also don't brag about convincing devs of anything I just go around an mediate, IE gather questions to ask developers the next time they show up for questioning.
Also I was specifically instructed not to quote several lines in my last transcription, thus I have been censored a bit and demanding a logs of some of these sessions is rather quite inappropriate.
I just post what I hear and ask when allowed to, I try not to waste questions and tailor the questions on the queue to each developer right now I would do alot to get another session with CCP Wolfman but cant.
The most amount of influence an IRCer has is pointing out a bug and the exact replication steps as the dev is on the client at the same time.
As for you tank whiners/defenders. None of you have gotten to the same level of complaints and depth the IRC channel has torn it apart, the closest example I saw today was a math post that was LEAGUES off from acutal paper stats. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:37:00 -
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Nothing to see here folks...move along...nothing to see...just another useless thread
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Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:37:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:Nothing to see here folks...move along...nothing to see...just another useless thread .
Very helpful. if you have nothing to contribute. crawl home. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:39:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:Nothing to see here folks...move along...nothing to see...just another useless thread . Very helpful. if you have nothing to contribute. crawl home.
do you hav anything to contribute |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:40:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:Nothing to see here folks...move along...nothing to see...just another useless thread . Very helpful. if you have nothing to contribute. crawl home.
Almost as helpful as your thread |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:41:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:Nothing to see here folks...move along...nothing to see...just another useless thread . Very helpful. if you have nothing to contribute. crawl home. do you hav anything to contribute
yes, just nothing you want to hear it seems. That doesn't invalidate my opinions. |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:42:00 -
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GM Unicorn wrote:Long story short: the IRC channel is nothing secret or private. You are more that welcome to join and read what's going on. I'll keep an eye on this tread. As soon as turns into a massive flame, I'll lock it in order to avoid casualties ;)
yeah dude its easy to join the IRC channel |
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Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:44:00 -
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When the IRC guide says I have to type /msg ns register password email address
I assume the only thing I want to change in that line is the "email address" to my own
Sadly it keeps coming back with *** ns: No such nick/channel |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:44:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:Nothing to see here folks...move along...nothing to see...just another useless thread . Very helpful. if you have nothing to contribute. crawl home. do you hav anything to contribute yes, just nothing you want to hear it seems. That doesn't invalidate my opinions.
no you wanted to get rid of a channel of communication with the devs thats the opposite
but if you really want to contribute go post the logs you wanted so badly |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:50:00 -
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Dewie, this one's for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpBDqPYVuO4 |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:52:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote: but if you really want to contribute go post the logs you wanted so badly
I would, if I had them, which even an idiot could be able to guess, so that you don't only suggest you are either a troll, or blatantly dishonest. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:52:00 -
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Thanks Noc. This is where I'd say something appropriate, but I doubt the Devs would like me to. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:54:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote: but if you really want to contribute go post the logs you wanted so badly
I would, if I had them, which even an idiot could be able to guess, so that you don't only suggest you are either a troll, or blatantly dishonest.
I mean get started there will be more in the future lol. I realize you don't have the older ones but nothing anyone can do about that.
unless you can get someone else who has them to release them |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:55:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Thanks Noc. This is where I'd say something appropriate, but I doubt the Devs would like me to.
Just chill out. Tin foil hats can be put down and we can all sing Kumbaya while blasting each other's virtual brains out instead. |
Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:56:00 -
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Imagine sending an e-mail to support@ccp, discussing a problem and suggesting potential fix. That's off-forum heresy!
Imagine sending a DM via twitter toa dev . Off-forum heresy!
Imagine owning/running a fansite and occasionally getting an opportunity to talk with the devs. Off-forum heresy once more!
Imagine going to E3, or Gamescon, or Fanfest and actually talking to a developer - privately - about DUST. The highest form of heresy, treachery, and sedition again this official forum!
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As has been said. The IRC room a public channel. Join whenever you want, just don't act like an idiot whilst in someone else's house.
As has been said. It's just chat. Just like might happen in any of the above instances. Devs aren't giving out Jovian dropsuits, they aren't giving away advice for figuring out the most OP play style, and they aren't giving anything major away. And anything minor that they give away ends up here anyway within a couple of days. They aren't giving out early passes to the next build, super-weapons, or special "dev-sauce". None of it is official, and even what people in IRC think they know could change before the next build. So...what?
There was a time disparity that was absolutely meaningless regarding knowledge of something that may or may not come to fruition, so IRC must be shut down?
The devs have short infrequent casual conversations with players somewhere other than the forums, so IRC must be shut down? |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:56:00 -
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I find it fairly interesting that as soon as a Dev states he'll keep an eye on a thread, locking it if it starts flaming, a little group of haters start doing just that, with what I can only see as being an attempt at getting a thread closed they happen to disagree with.
Unicorn, if you get this far, please do not lock it over these minor members, but instead just lock them for disrupting a thread. |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
903
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:57:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:When the IRC guide says I have to type /msg ns register password email address
I assume the only thing I want to change in that line is the "email address" to my own
Sadly it keeps coming back with *** ns: No such nick/channel
It's been 17 years since I last used IRC, I guess I'm a little rusty.
You also need to replace password with your own unique password. Make sure you are entering it in the status window as well.
Edit:
I think I used the flash client to register myself. |
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Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:58:00 -
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Drake Lyons wrote:Imagine sending an e-mail to support@ccp, discussing a problem and suggesting potential fix. That's off-forum heresy!
This is not what I said. Was it?
A support issue is just that, if you started sending suggesting grievances about balance to them, I'm fairly certain they'll point you to the forum. |
Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:58:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:I find it fairly interesting that as soon as a Dev states he'll keep an eye on a thread, locking it if it starts flaming, a little group of haters start doing just that, with what I can only see as being an attempt at getting a thread closed they happen to disagree with.
Unicorn, if you get this far, please do not lock it over these minor members, but instead just lock them for disrupting a thread.
This is, indeed, all a big conspiracy. We're talking about it on irc while playing the final release build on the secret "Hedgehog" server...
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GM Unicorn
Hedion University Amarr Empire
265
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:59:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:When the IRC guide says I have to type /msg ns register password email address
I assume the only thing I want to change in that line is the "email address" to my own
Sadly it keeps coming back with *** ns: No such nick/channel
It's been 17 years since I last used IRC, I guess I'm a little rusty.
nope, use this format
/ns register 123456 [email protected]
The golden rule is "remove the msg bit from every command :p "
ps:sorry I edited your post by mistake, instead of quoting it. Should be fine now. |
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Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:59:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:I find it fairly interesting that as soon as a Dev states he'll keep an eye on a thread, locking it if it starts flaming, a little group of haters start doing just that, with what I can only see as being an attempt at getting a thread closed they happen to disagree with.
Unicorn, if you get this far, please do not lock it over these minor members, but instead just lock them for disrupting a thread.
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Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.11 18:00:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Drake Lyons wrote:Imagine sending an e-mail to support@ccp, discussing a problem and suggesting potential fix. That's off-forum heresy!
This is not what I said. Was it? A support issue is just that, if you started sending suggesting grievances about balance to them, I'm fairly certain they'll point you to the forum.
And yet, if you'd been on IRC, you'd know that a lot of the talk on there centers around fixing bugs and how that is progressing. So...once again, not really an issue. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.11 18:00:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:I find it fairly interesting that as soon as a Dev states he'll keep an eye on a thread, locking it if it starts flaming, a little group of haters start doing just that, with what I can only see as being an attempt at getting a thread closed they happen to disagree with.
Unicorn, if you get this far, please do not lock it over these minor members, but instead just lock them for disrupting a thread.
There are only conflicting opinions, I wouldn't call it hate |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.11 18:00:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:When the IRC guide says I have to type /msg ns register password email address
I assume the only thing I want to change in that line is the "email address" to my own
Sadly it keeps coming back with *** ns: No such nick/channel
It's been 17 years since I last used IRC, I guess I'm a little rusty. You also need to replace password with your own unique password. Make sure you are entering it in the status window as well. Edit: I think I used the flash client to register myself.
I did that as well, with the same result. I'm using the flash client.
Should ns is to be replaced by my nickname?
Edit. Got it by following the Dev suggestion. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.11 18:02:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:I find it fairly interesting that as soon as a Dev states he'll keep an eye on a thread, locking it if it starts flaming, a little group of haters start doing just that, with what I can only see as being an attempt at getting a thread closed they happen to disagree with.
Unicorn, if you get this far, please do not lock it over these minor members, but instead just lock them for disrupting a thread. There are only conflicting opinions, I wouldn't call it hate
I would. I hate snipers . Intereferes with my knife game. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.11 18:04:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:I find it fairly interesting that as soon as a Dev states he'll keep an eye on a thread, locking it if it starts flaming, a little group of haters start doing just that, with what I can only see as being an attempt at getting a thread closed they happen to disagree with.
Unicorn, if you get this far, please do not lock it over these minor members, but instead just lock them for disrupting a thread. There are only conflicting opinions, I wouldn't call it hate I would. I hate snipers
I hate tankers seeing that railgun makes my sniper feel inferior |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.11 18:05:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:I find it fairly interesting that as soon as a Dev states he'll keep an eye on a thread, locking it if it starts flaming, a little group of haters start doing just that, with what I can only see as being an attempt at getting a thread closed they happen to disagree with.
Unicorn, if you get this far, please do not lock it over these minor members, but instead just lock them for disrupting a thread. There are only conflicting opinions, I wouldn't call it hate I would. I hate snipers I hate tankers
OMG Flame on you! |
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