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ELiTExPRO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:55:00 -
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I remember all the MAG community talking about this game, the controls are even the same! there like the only 2 FPS that have R2 for swap guns, and Triangle to crouch, i got in the beta :), i will definitely be playing this when it comes out |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
197
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:58:00 -
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Dust =/= MAG
Dust is REAL |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:03:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Dust =/= MAG
Dust is REAL
lolwut? real?
@OP no DUST =/= MAG DUST is an evolution of what MAG tried to be + more |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:05:00 -
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Dust is weak compared to MAG. You can't do the worm in Dust. Lame or what? |
STB-callmeanimal75-EV
Doomheim
31
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:13:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Dust =/= MAG
Dust is REAL lolwut? real? @OP no DUST =/= MAG DUST is an evolution of what MAG tried to be + more
yeah, really. and to think that we're only seeing a small fraction of what the real game is supposed to be. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:22:00 -
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DUST 514 == Cheese Burger Catnip Sandwich |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:39:00 -
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Planet side 2 is a lot more like MAG. Today, I was defending the same choke points for two hours.
It reminded me totally of MAG when in Sabo C is charged and the timer stops, and the match just keeps going until something gives....this was exactly like that but even better because there were a total of six letters being defended in close vicinity of each other, with enemies spawning from inside the letters at times, as well as an onslaught from all sides including armored vehicles, infantry and aircraft.
This battle went on for two hours, then finally the NC ahem SVER were pushed back to another hex.
This battle was the most insane, intense fps battle I have experienced. It was MAG on steroids, this was fps ecstacy.
If dust increases player numbers I think it could deliver a closer experience to MAG in terms of fps intensity and mechanics. I really hope that this does happen. Because, overall, despite obvious beta issues, dust is a very good game. Just needs time and patience.
But if you are looking for MAGorgasm then PS2 may be more your cup of tea...
No, I am not stew360 |
J0hlss0n
Doomheim
30
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:40:00 -
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Brahma El Indio wrote:No, I am not stew360
LOL
It's too bad that PS2 won't arrive on the PS3, I guess at this time I'll have to put my hope to Dust being able to grow into a game that I will enjoy just as much as I enjoyed MAG. =) |
mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
425
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:41:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Dust =/= MAG
Dust is REAL lolwut? real? @OP no DUST =/= MAG DUST is an evolution of what MAG tried to be + more
Agreed, Dust is the evolution of what Mag was/tried to be. However, Dust can learn something when it comes to gunplay and movement mechanics. |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:23:00 -
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Currently, MAG is way more enjoyable than Dust. |
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:26:00 -
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DUST is a bit like MAG, except better
PS2 is more like MAG because of the randoms you get put with, also 1 faction is UP and getting stomped on atm |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:34:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:DUST is a bit like MAG, except better
PS2 is more like MAG because of the randoms you get put with, also 1 faction is UP and getting stomped on atm Dust is a ****** FPS game. Everything else CCP is doing right. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:37:00 -
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TotalBreakage wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:DUST is a bit like MAG, except better
PS2 is more like MAG because of the randoms you get put with, also 1 faction is UP and getting stomped on atm Dust is a ****** FPS game. Everything else CCP is doing right.
Then go play MAG with 1 server and massive lag anyways so even if you do hit someone they can soak it up like a sponge and kill you instead |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:42:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Dust =/= MAG
Dust is REAL lolwut? real? @OP no DUST =/= MAG DUST is an evolution of what MAG tried to be + more
QFT |
drake sadani
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:43:00 -
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being a vet of mag. dust is better. i just hope our devs don't abandon us like zipper did.
its a sad day when your community is actively finding and categorizing bugs for you and telling you that want more add ons for your game . that they will pay for no less. and they get ignored ..aka zipper . and that was a full released game that cost actual money . :( but oh well enough my maker abandoned me on the battlefield with this stupid red dot stuck in a wall . back to dust :D |
PHAROAH AMEN RA
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:44:00 -
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whoa slow down if there was no mag there would be no dust mag was/is revolutionary dust is continuing in those steps MASSIVE ACTION GAME hence the title MAG b4 mag there were never ( i repeat NEVER) that many ppl on a server. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:45:00 -
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PHAROAH AMEN RA wrote:whoa slow down if there was no mag ther would be no dust mag was/is revolutionary dust is continuing in those steps MASSIVE ACTION GAME hence the title MAG b4 mag there were never ( i repeat NEVER) that many ppl on a server.
You cant say that
CCP still may have wanted to make an FPS to tie in with DUST |
PHAROAH AMEN RA
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:49:00 -
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My comment was to say that mag pushed the envelope. I will say it another way No DR JAY = NO JORDAN = NO KOBE. not taking anything away from either player. Get my point? |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:53:00 -
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TotalBreakage wrote:Currently, MAG is way more enjoyable than Dust.
TBQH....MAG is overrated. As someone who played MAG for 800 hours i can tell u ppl played MAG mainly because
1. the ppl they played with 2. easiest FPS on the market
Ive seen alot of these "top" MAG clans try to adjust to other games and fly out suck DUST currently is very easy, gear USED to give u a big advantage making it even easier with all the current terrible ppl playin it. thank god CCP nerfed dropsuits so gear matters less and skill matters more
tbh if this game didnt have FW/Nullsec/Gladiator arenas it would be terrible and just exactly like MAG with all the terrible randoms and players playin it.
I hate ez games, im a competitive player so competition and challenge is what i seek. stats dont mean **** if im just rapin randoms
which is why corp warfare and gladiator arenas are the 2 things that interest me in this game. |
PHAROAH AMEN RA
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:58:00 -
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But when u first saw mag and all the explosions you was like yeah i dont know whats going on but this is the sh*t ! i want in ! oh by the way whats a mortar battery ? loool am i right? |
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PHAROAH AMEN RA
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:00:00 -
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I want DUST to be the same way ppl saying "I dont know whats going on but i want IN!" "whats this basic sheild repair thing do"? |
Creg Briffin
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.09.12 06:52:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:TotalBreakage wrote:Currently, MAG is way more enjoyable than Dust. TBQH....MAG is overrated. As someone who played MAG for 800 hours i can tell u ppl played MAG mainly because 1. the ppl they played with 2. easiest FPS on the market Ive seen alot of these "top" MAG clans try to adjust to other games and fly out suck DUST currently is very easy, gear USED to give u a big advantage making it even easier with all the current terrible ppl playin it. thank god CCP nerfed dropsuits so gear matters less and skill matters more tbh if this game didnt have FW/Nullsec/Gladiator arenas it would be terrible and just exactly like MAG with all the terrible randoms and players playin it. I hate ez games, im a competitive player so competition and challenge is what i seek. stats dont mean **** if im just rapin randoms which is why corp warfare and gladiator arenas are the 2 things that interest me in this game.
spoken like a true pro...
I hate that when people exploit gear to win, when they can't just pull out a rifle and shoot you straight up |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:59:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:TotalBreakage wrote:Currently, MAG is way more enjoyable than Dust. TBQH....MAG is overrated. As someone who played MAG for 800 hours i can tell u ppl played MAG mainly because 1. the ppl they played with 2. easiest FPS on the market Ive seen alot of these "top" MAG clans try to adjust to other games and fly out suck DUST currently is very easy, gear USED to give u a big advantage making it even easier with all the current terrible ppl playin it. thank god CCP nerfed dropsuits so gear matters less and skill matters more tbh if this game didnt have FW/Nullsec/Gladiator arenas it would be terrible and just exactly like MAG with all the terrible randoms and players playin it. I hate ez games, im a competitive player so competition and challenge is what i seek. stats dont mean **** if im just rapin randoms which is why corp warfare and gladiator arenas are the 2 things that interest me in this game. MAG is underrated. Not too many people know about it. I honestly don't care if the game is easy, I had a great time with it. Besides, clan battles and scrims where competative and challenging. My opinions in this thread and the other one are specifically based on my gaming experience.
Right now it's the close beta, so we can't be sure how good Dust will be. But it's important that CCP takes the positive aspects of MAG and uses them in Dust. |
Regis Mark V
91
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:44:00 -
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MAG was and is better than Dust could ever hope to be.
Planetside 2 is and will be better than Dust.
But but it has competitive play
Competitive play aka corp/clan battles mean **** if gunplay and movement sucks! |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1592
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:46:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Dust is weak compared to MAG. You can't do the worm in Dust. Lame or what?
OMG, really? What is with people these days that are so compelled to compare an incomplete beta (Dust) to a finished product (MAG)? There are no comparisons when one is incomplete in terms of development and another is complete. At least wait until Dust 514 is released. Then you can make the comparison. Sheesh. |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.09.12 12:20:00 -
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Regis Mark V wrote:MAG was and is better than Dust could ever hope to be.
Planetside 2 is and will be better than Dust.
But but it has competitive play
Competitive play aka corp/clan battles mean **** if gunplay and movement sucks!
Wow. That's a big turn around from one of the biggest supporters of dust and the biggest detractors of ps2.
Gotta say though, my experience with the two betas, PS2 is far closer to MAG and has been much more enjoyable, even as a beta, than dust.
I'm not saying dust is bad or garbage or anything like that, its just not as good as the ps2 beta.
PS2 is grander than MAG even in beta, where dust is a poor cousin to MAG while still a beta. Sure, MAG was a finished product, but as far as betas go, PS2 is ex MAG player heaven.
Edit: hey Regis what does Stew think of your new opinion? Lol |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.09.12 12:37:00 -
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Okay.. I love MAG as much as the next persons, and I was there playing MAG since the first [beta], but seriously the two are far from one another. They share the same grandeur ideas, and I do think CCP tries to pay homage when it can -- dropsuits and whatnot. However as everyone has said the two are far from one another. PlanetSide2 probably feels more like MAG, but that is more explainable by the fact that Sony and it's branch SOE (Sony Online Entertainement) own the IP (Intelectual Property) known as MAG and I can assure that some of people from Zipper probably took jobs with Sony again even after Sony closed down Zipper Interactive. Just saying things can be explained for that feeling of magic.
In terms though MAG compared to either Dust514, or PlanetSide2 is the ancient ancestor to a much grandeur realization. It's still a solid title to be sure. It's just a shame that Sony and both Zipper allowed it to die, and hindered it from ever being truelly better. They can pay their homage, but the three are still different with only loose ties to one another. |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.09.12 12:59:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:Okay.. I love MAG as much as the next persons, and I was there playing MAG since the first [beta], but seriously the two are far from one another. They share the same grandeur ideas, and I do think CCP tries to pay homage when it can -- dropsuits and whatnot. However as everyone has said the two are far from one another. PlanetSide2 probably feels more like MAG, but that is more explainable by the fact that Sony and it's branch SOE (Sony Online Entertainement) own the IP (Intelectual Property) known as MAG and I can assure that some of people from Zipper probably took jobs with Sony again even after Sony closed down Zipper Interactive. Just saying things can be explained for that feeling of magic.
In terms though MAG compared to either Dust514, or PlanetSide2 is the ancient ancestor to a much grandeur realization. It's still a solid title to be sure. It's just a shame that Sony and both Zipper allowed it to die, and hindered it from ever being truelly better. They can pay their homage, but the three are still different with only loose ties to one another.
Partially true and I only say that because MAG was modelled from the original Planetside. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.09.12 13:08:00 -
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Brahma El Indio wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:Okay.. I love MAG as much as the next persons, and I was there playing MAG since the first [beta], but seriously the two are far from one another. They share the same grandeur ideas, and I do think CCP tries to pay homage when it can -- dropsuits and whatnot. However as everyone has said the two are far from one another. PlanetSide2 probably feels more like MAG, but that is more explainable by the fact that Sony and it's branch SOE (Sony Online Entertainement) own the IP (Intelectual Property) known as MAG and I can assure that some of people from Zipper probably took jobs with Sony again even after Sony closed down Zipper Interactive. Just saying things can be explained for that feeling of magic.
In terms though MAG compared to either Dust514, or PlanetSide2 is the ancient ancestor to a much grandeur realization. It's still a solid title to be sure. It's just a shame that Sony and both Zipper allowed it to die, and hindered it from ever being truelly better. They can pay their homage, but the three are still different with only loose ties to one another. Partially true and I only say that because MAG was modelled from the original Planetside.
Which was pretty large for it's time -- however also it had the advantage of being at the time it's only competition, and on the computer too with a subscription fee. Meaning constant reveneu and profit. I knew one person who played the original PlanetSide he enjoyed it. He had his nitpickings at the time though. MAG though helped to set a bar though for the home entertainement systems though. It tried atleast.. |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2012.09.12 13:09:00 -
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Lol if Stew360 saw this he would be having a nerdgasm.
I wish I could try PS2 but unfortunately I don't have a gaming computer and I'm not about to buy one. |
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Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.09.12 13:21:00 -
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TotalBreakage wrote:Lol if Stew360 saw this he would be having a nerdgasm.
I wish I could try PS2 but unfortunately I don't have a gaming computer and I'm not about to buy one.
The spec isnt that fancy. For the love of MAG...is all I can say lol because this is, after all, a dust forum....but I'll say a bit more
I will be playing both when launched but my prediction is that I will spend a lot more time on PS2 because its like that intensity/ecstacy of a timer stopped sabo game, but on a domination numbers game with unlimited time...
if the situation is right, it doesn't last for just that extra five or ten minutes, but that battle goes on for hours at a time....thats what I just cannot get over.....I spent over two hours on the same choke points with just so much intense action because just like MAG SVER, the PS2 equivalents the NC just push hard....two hours I ran between six letters in close proximity...the numbers on each faction in this area, were mind boggling.....ain't ever seen anything like it in my whole life...colossal battle... |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2012.09.12 13:51:00 -
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Brahma El Indio wrote:TotalBreakage wrote:Lol if Stew360 saw this he would be having a nerdgasm.
I wish I could try PS2 but unfortunately I don't have a gaming computer and I'm not about to buy one. The spec isnt that fancy. For the love of MAG...is all I can say lol because this is, after all, a dust forum....but I'll say a bit more I will be playing both when launched but my prediction is that I will spend a lot more time on PS2 because its like that intensity/ecstacy of a timer stopped sabo game, but on a domination numbers game with unlimited time... if the situation is right, it doesn't last for just that extra five or ten minutes, but that battle goes on for hours at a time....thats what I just cannot get over.....I spent over two hours on the same choke points with just so much intense action because just like MAG SVER, the PS2 equivalents the NC just push hard....two hours I ran between six letters in close proximity...the numbers on each faction in this area, were mind boggling.....ain't ever seen anything like it in my whole life...colossal battle... It sounds awesome, how are the FPS mechanics? RBS, aim assist, or any of that type of bullshit? In other words, does skill matter in this game? |
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2012.09.12 14:04:00 -
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J0hlss0n wrote:Brahma El Indio wrote:No, I am not stew360 LOL It's too bad that PS2 won't arrive on the PS3, I guess at this time I'll have to put my hope to Dust being able to grow into a game that I will enjoy just as much as I enjoyed MAG. =)
I lol'd |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.09.12 20:46:00 -
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TotalBreakage wrote:Brahma El Indio wrote:TotalBreakage wrote:Lol if Stew360 saw this he would be having a nerdgasm.
I wish I could try PS2 but unfortunately I don't have a gaming computer and I'm not about to buy one. The spec isnt that fancy. For the love of MAG...is all I can say lol because this is, after all, a dust forum....but I'll say a bit more I will be playing both when launched but my prediction is that I will spend a lot more time on PS2 because its like that intensity/ecstacy of a timer stopped sabo game, but on a domination numbers game with unlimited time... if the situation is right, it doesn't last for just that extra five or ten minutes, but that battle goes on for hours at a time....thats what I just cannot get over.....I spent over two hours on the same choke points with just so much intense action because just like MAG SVER, the PS2 equivalents the NC just push hard....two hours I ran between six letters in close proximity...the numbers on each faction in this area, were mind boggling.....ain't ever seen anything like it in my whole life...colossal battle... It sounds awesome, how are the FPS mechanics? RBS, aim assist, or any of that type of bullshit? In other words, does skill matter in this game?
Bro this is MAG on a bigger scale.....right now I can't see RBS, this is point and shoot and you gotta aim....sometimes the beta has lag issues but us west servers have been very stable.....skill matters in PS2....aiming for the head does the job....what's totally amazing is the similarity to MAG... 3 factions and NC cough cough SVER are so much like MAG but without their my map is op advantages...but NC right now still has slightly better weapons sorta like how SVER had the Tamsen....awesome game man....going to jump back on shortly! |
YGGDRASSIL MONDE
Helion Production Labs Mildly Sober
3
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Posted - 2012.09.12 20:59:00 -
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PHAROAH AMEN RA wrote:whoa slow down if there was no mag there would be no dust mag was/is revolutionary dust is continuing in those steps MASSIVE ACTION GAME hence the title MAG b4 mag there were never ( i repeat NEVER) that many ppl on a server. Dust has been in devlepment since 2009 |
Kosen Driago
WarRavens
25
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Posted - 2012.09.12 21:26:00 -
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I have MAG.... And loved it. However, after playing the DUST beta since E3, never once has that game popped up in my head. The concept of the game is far more reminiscent of PS2 in my opinion. DUST is so far from finished, I dont even know why some of you guys are bothering to even compare the two (or anything else for that matter) right now. Have any of you even read all the stuff they've been talking about in the IRC? At least wait for the next build. Not ony that, the games dont even play the same! Even in closed beta, you can see the difference in gameplay mechanics. |
Phantomnom
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
505
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Posted - 2012.09.12 21:33:00 -
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DUST is nowhere near as good as MAG was. |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.09.12 21:36:00 -
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Phantomnom wrote:DUST is nowhere near as good as MAG was.
Thanks for showing up Englebert. Good to have you along. Get a PC and get into PS2 if you wanna go to MAG heaven.... |
Boxoffire
Lost-Legion
47
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Posted - 2012.09.12 23:34:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:TotalBreakage wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:DUST is a bit like MAG, except better
PS2 is more like MAG because of the randoms you get put with, also 1 faction is UP and getting stomped on atm Dust is a ****** FPS game. Everything else CCP is doing right. Then go play MAG with 1 server and massive lag anyways so even if you do hit someone they can soak it up like a sponge and kill you instead You obviously never played MAG. never ues unless it was on my side.
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PHAROAH AMEN RA
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.09.13 00:58:00 -
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YGGDRASSIL MONDE wrote:PHAROAH AMEN RA wrote:whoa slow down if there was no mag there would be no dust mag was/is revolutionary dust is continuing in those steps MASSIVE ACTION GAME hence the title MAG b4 mag there were never ( i repeat NEVER) that many ppl on a server. Dust has been in devlepment since 2009
umm we were playing mag already your point is? ooohh u think mag just came out !! oh i get it Its been dead for a yr !
news flash: sony killed zipper a year ago and let it die a slow death! |
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crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.09.13 01:20:00 -
[41] - Quote
Rasatsu wrote:DUST 514 == Cheese Burger Catnip Sandwich
The furries are doomed, they won't be able to keep their hands off this game! |
Phantomnom
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
505
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Posted - 2012.09.13 09:40:00 -
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Brahma El Indio wrote:Phantomnom wrote:DUST is nowhere near as good as MAG was. Thanks for showing up Englebert. Good to have you along. Get a PC and get into PS2 if you wanna go to MAG heaven....
I'm considering it. Just brought a new stock PC as my old one is kaput so, I'll take a look at some Graphics cards at some point before release and maybe give PS2 a whirl. |
miahus
CrimeWave Syndicate
78
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Posted - 2012.09.13 11:22:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Dust =/= MAG
Dust is REAL lolwut? real? @OP no DUST =/= MAG DUST is an evolution of what MAG tried to be + more correction Dust is an evolution of what MAG wouldn't want to be + more.
I always thought CCP should get some of the guys from team zipper. They made MAG in 2009, which was awesome for its time, and are familiar with all sorts of issues in big battles over very few server. as far as i know, they only had 3 servers, in asia, europe, and north america with players from all around the world, and they're still up and running. |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.09.13 11:25:00 -
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miahus wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Dust =/= MAG
Dust is REAL lolwut? real? @OP no DUST =/= MAG DUST is an evolution of what MAG tried to be + more correction Dust is an evolution of what MAG wouldn't want to be + more. I always thought CCP should get some of the guys from team zipper. They made MAG in 2009, which was awesome for its time, and are familiar with all sorts of issues in big battles over very few server. as far as i know, they only had 3 servers, in asia, europe, and north america with players from all around the world, and they're still up and running.
Only the north American mag server remans |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
132
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:22:00 -
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We all can agree MAG is/was great. Zipper, however, (read 'Sony' because they bought the Zipper and chained them to a SOCCOM production line) was a bad content provider. I don't blame zipper people, though - in the end they all got fired by Sony (I live in Seattle and Zipper was a local company, so I feel bad for the guys) - they created a great product but unfortunately (this is just my opinion) in the end were just slaves to Sony and were unable to support MAG and its community. Despite the lack of support, MAG is hands down the best FPS. The kind of game that was played by and enjoyed by people over 20 . Epic battles clashes, fairly balanced weapons. Gunplay was amazing - hard to master, no auto aim Bullshit, extremely rewarding once you master it. Clan system when excellent, there was communication and team based tactics - you don't find this in any other game. It's hard to compare Dust to MAG because Dust has not been released yet but I think it's fair to say what my (or our - MAG community's) expectations are toward DUST - it should be similar to MAG. It has to reward team play and communication and it has to be a good FPS (gunplay should be much better than what it is now). What it could and should try to do better than MAG is a better clan war system - I am totally confident that the game will succeed at that because clan war/ turf conquest is at its core. Likewise, the game will offer a living breathing vast world, something that MAG unfortunately never had. I think one thing is for sure: DUST SHOULD BE THE IDEOLOGICAL HEIR TO MAG. When a non MAG fan starts explaining how DUST is not MAG and should not aim to be - just think about THIS: most people who are truly excited about DUST are MAG fans who are looking for a new clan/ team tactics based FPS (after Sony dumped MAG and stopped supporting our community). There is just nothing on Playstation now besides DUST that fills that niche. At the core of DUST community are not Eve fans who continue to fly their ships and care little to none about DUST - I play Eve and at least in my corp there were only two guys who were curious about DUST, the rest just ignore it. So if DUST developers ignore the wishes of old MAG vets, the only FPS community that cares deeply about clan wars and the META game that comes with it, they will lose a lot of support of a huge chunk of their core supporters. On my part I can say that I bought the Merc pack - not because I want that flashy AUR gun - but to show my support for DUST developers and as a gesture of good will that DUST will be a polished product that is as fun to play as MAG. Please, add likes if you agree with the post. MAG community should have a voice in DUST. |
Loss Tovas
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:41:00 -
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@Ludvig -
I agree with you. Some of the most memorable things I have ever done in a game I have done in MAG. That game provided an experienced that you had to have had in order to understand why that game is so special to so many players. There is just something about how that game funneled people together and was able to make you feel like you were apart of something great.
I think Dust will accomplish what MAG did, but I think Dust will be much better at it. Being set in New Eden gives us the chance to actually participate in a living universe the likes of which, potentially, no FPS player has ever seen. Think instead of SVER/VALOR/RAVEN that player created corps will be just as large as those factions and the space they occupy, the territory they control, won't be some arbitrary line in the sand. The politics, the wars, the story will all be player created and that creation will take on a life of its own in way that MAG could never have hoped. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.09.17 04:30:00 -
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Loss Tovas wrote:@Ludvig -
I agree with you. Some of the most memorable things I have ever done in a game I have done in MAG. That game provided an experienced that you had to have had in order to understand why that game is so special to so many players. There is just something about how that game funneled people together and was able to make you feel like you were apart of something great.
I think Dust will accomplish what MAG did, but I think Dust will be much better at it. Being set in New Eden gives us the chance to actually participate in a living universe the likes of which, potentially, no FPS player has ever seen. Think instead of SVER/VALOR/RAVEN that player created corps will be just as large as those factions and the space they occupy, the territory they control, won't be some arbitrary line in the sand. The politics, the wars, the story will all be player created and that creation will take on a life of its own in way that MAG could never have hoped.
Well said. + 1 |
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GM Kiriap
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:39:00 -
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