DUST Search - DUST 514 = MAG

Brahma El Indio wrote:

Rorek IronBlood wrote:

Okay.. I love MAG as much as the next persons, and I was there playing MAG since the first [beta], but seriously the two are far from one another. They share the same grandeur ideas, and I do think CCP tries to pay homage when it can -- dropsuits and whatnot. However as everyone has said the two are far from one another. PlanetSide2 probably feels more like MAG, but that is more explainable by the fact that Sony and it's branch SOE (Sony Online Entertainement) own the IP (Intelectual Property) known as MAG and I can assure that some of people from Zipper probably took jobs with Sony again even after Sony closed down Zipper Interactive. Just saying things can be explained for that feeling of magic.

In terms though MAG compared to either Dust514, or PlanetSide2 is the ancient ancestor to a much grandeur realization. It's still a solid title to be sure. It's just a shame that Sony and both Zipper allowed it to die, and hindered it from ever being truelly better. They can pay their homage, but the three are still different with only loose ties to one another.

Partially true and I only say that because MAG was modelled from the original Planetside.

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ELiTExPRO Algintal Core Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2012.09.10 11:55:00 - [1] - Quote I remember all the MAG community talking about this game, the controls are even the same! there like the only 2 FPS that have R2 for swap guns, and Triangle to crouch, i got in the beta :), i will definitely be playing this when it comes out
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 197	Posted - 2012.09.10 11:58:00 - [2] - Quote Dust =/= MAG Dust is REAL
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.09.10 12:03:00 - [3] - Quote ChromeBreaker wrote: Dust =/= MAG Dust is REAL lolwut? real? @OP no DUST =/= MAG DUST is an evolution of what MAG tried to be + more
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.09.10 12:05:00 - [4] - Quote Dust is weak compared to MAG. You can't do the worm in Dust. Lame or what?
STB-callmeanimal75-EV Doomheim 31	Posted - 2012.09.10 12:13:00 - [5] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: ChromeBreaker wrote: Dust =/= MAG Dust is REAL lolwut? real? @OP no DUST =/= MAG DUST is an evolution of what MAG tried to be + more yeah, really. and to think that we're only seeing a small fraction of what the real game is supposed to be.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 437	Posted - 2012.09.10 12:22:00 - [6] - Quote DUST 514 == Cheese Burger Catnip Sandwich
Brahma El Indio Bragian Order Amarr Empire 171	Posted - 2012.09.10 12:39:00 - [7] - Quote Planet side 2 is a lot more like MAG. Today, I was defending the same choke points for two hours. It reminded me totally of MAG when in Sabo C is charged and the timer stops, and the match just keeps going until something gives....this was exactly like that but even better because there were a total of six letters being defended in close vicinity of each other, with enemies spawning from inside the letters at times, as well as an onslaught from all sides including armored vehicles, infantry and aircraft. This battle went on for two hours, then finally the NC ahem SVER were pushed back to another hex. This battle was the most insane, intense fps battle I have experienced. It was MAG on steroids, this was fps ecstacy. If dust increases player numbers I think it could deliver a closer experience to MAG in terms of fps intensity and mechanics. I really hope that this does happen. Because, overall, despite obvious beta issues, dust is a very good game. Just needs time and patience. But if you are looking for MAGorgasm then PS2 may be more your cup of tea... No, I am not stew360
J0hlss0n Doomheim 30	Posted - 2012.09.10 12:40:00 - [8] - Quote Brahma El Indio wrote: No, I am not stew360 LOL It's too bad that PS2 won't arrive on the PS3, I guess at this time I'll have to put my hope to Dust being able to grow into a game that I will enjoy just as much as I enjoyed MAG. =)
mikegunnz Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 425	Posted - 2012.09.10 12:41:00 - [9] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: ChromeBreaker wrote: Dust =/= MAG Dust is REAL lolwut? real? @OP no DUST =/= MAG DUST is an evolution of what MAG tried to be + more Agreed, Dust is the evolution of what Mag was/tried to be. However, Dust can learn something when it comes to gunplay and movement mechanics.
TotalBreakage Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 410	Posted - 2012.09.10 14:23:00 - [10] - Quote Currently, MAG is way more enjoyable than Dust.

EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.09.10 14:26:00 - [11] - Quote DUST is a bit like MAG, except better PS2 is more like MAG because of the randoms you get put with, also 1 faction is UP and getting stomped on atm
TotalBreakage Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 410	Posted - 2012.09.10 14:34:00 - [12] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: DUST is a bit like MAG, except better PS2 is more like MAG because of the randoms you get put with, also 1 faction is UP and getting stomped on atm Dust is a ****** FPS game. Everything else CCP is doing right.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.09.10 14:37:00 - [13] - Quote TotalBreakage wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: DUST is a bit like MAG, except better PS2 is more like MAG because of the randoms you get put with, also 1 faction is UP and getting stomped on atm Dust is a ****** FPS game. Everything else CCP is doing right. Then go play MAG with 1 server and massive lag anyways so even if you do hit someone they can soak it up like a sponge and kill you instead
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.09.10 14:42:00 - [14] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: ChromeBreaker wrote: Dust =/= MAG Dust is REAL lolwut? real? @OP no DUST =/= MAG DUST is an evolution of what MAG tried to be + more QFT
drake sadani Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2012.09.10 14:43:00 - [15] - Quote being a vet of mag. dust is better. i just hope our devs don't abandon us like zipper did. its a sad day when your community is actively finding and categorizing bugs for you and telling you that want more add ons for your game . that they will pay for no less. and they get ignored ..aka zipper . and that was a full released game that cost actual money . :( but oh well enough my maker abandoned me on the battlefield with this stupid red dot stuck in a wall . back to dust :D
PHAROAH AMEN RA Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2012.09.10 14:44:00 - [16] - Quote whoa slow down if there was no mag there would be no dust mag was/is revolutionary dust is continuing in those steps MASSIVE ACTION GAME hence the title MAG b4 mag there were never ( i repeat NEVER) that many ppl on a server.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.09.10 14:45:00 - [17] - Quote PHAROAH AMEN RA wrote: whoa slow down if there was no mag ther would be no dust mag was/is revolutionary dust is continuing in those steps MASSIVE ACTION GAME hence the title MAG b4 mag there were never ( i repeat NEVER) that many ppl on a server. You cant say that CCP still may have wanted to make an FPS to tie in with DUST
PHAROAH AMEN RA Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2012.09.10 14:49:00 - [18] - Quote My comment was to say that mag pushed the envelope. I will say it another way No DR JAY = NO JORDAN = NO KOBE. not taking anything away from either player. Get my point?
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.09.10 14:53:00 - [19] - Quote TotalBreakage wrote: Currently, MAG is way more enjoyable than Dust. TBQH....MAG is overrated. As someone who played MAG for 800 hours i can tell u ppl played MAG mainly because 1. the ppl they played with 2. easiest FPS on the market Ive seen alot of these "top" MAG clans try to adjust to other games and fly out suck DUST currently is very easy, gear USED to give u a big advantage making it even easier with all the current terrible ppl playin it. thank god CCP nerfed dropsuits so gear matters less and skill matters more tbh if this game didnt have FW/Nullsec/Gladiator arenas it would be terrible and just exactly like MAG with all the terrible randoms and players playin it. I hate ez games, im a competitive player so competition and challenge is what i seek. stats dont mean **** if im just rapin randoms which is why corp warfare and gladiator arenas are the 2 things that interest me in this game.
PHAROAH AMEN RA Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2012.09.10 14:58:00 - [20] - Quote But when u first saw mag and all the explosions you was like yeah i dont know whats going on but this is the sh*t ! i want in ! oh by the way whats a mortar battery ? loool am i right?

PHAROAH AMEN RA Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2012.09.10 15:00:00 - [21] - Quote I want DUST to be the same way ppl saying "I dont know whats going on but i want IN!" "whats this basic sheild repair thing do"?
Creg Briffin Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2012.09.12 06:52:00 - [22] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: TotalBreakage wrote: Currently, MAG is way more enjoyable than Dust. TBQH....MAG is overrated. As someone who played MAG for 800 hours i can tell u ppl played MAG mainly because 1. the ppl they played with 2. easiest FPS on the market Ive seen alot of these "top" MAG clans try to adjust to other games and fly out suck DUST currently is very easy, gear USED to give u a big advantage making it even easier with all the current terrible ppl playin it. thank god CCP nerfed dropsuits so gear matters less and skill matters more tbh if this game didnt have FW/Nullsec/Gladiator arenas it would be terrible and just exactly like MAG with all the terrible randoms and players playin it. I hate ez games, im a competitive player so competition and challenge is what i seek. stats dont mean **** if im just rapin randoms which is why corp warfare and gladiator arenas are the 2 things that interest me in this game. spoken like a true pro... I hate that when people exploit gear to win, when they can't just pull out a rifle and shoot you straight up
TotalBreakage Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 410	Posted - 2012.09.12 10:59:00 - [23] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: TotalBreakage wrote: Currently, MAG is way more enjoyable than Dust. TBQH....MAG is overrated. As someone who played MAG for 800 hours i can tell u ppl played MAG mainly because 1. the ppl they played with 2. easiest FPS on the market Ive seen alot of these "top" MAG clans try to adjust to other games and fly out suck DUST currently is very easy, gear USED to give u a big advantage making it even easier with all the current terrible ppl playin it. thank god CCP nerfed dropsuits so gear matters less and skill matters more tbh if this game didnt have FW/Nullsec/Gladiator arenas it would be terrible and just exactly like MAG with all the terrible randoms and players playin it. I hate ez games, im a competitive player so competition and challenge is what i seek. stats dont mean **** if im just rapin randoms which is why corp warfare and gladiator arenas are the 2 things that interest me in this game. MAG is underrated. Not too many people know about it. I honestly don't care if the game is easy, I had a great time with it. Besides, clan battles and scrims where competative and challenging. My opinions in this thread and the other one are specifically based on my gaming experience. Right now it's the close beta, so we can't be sure how good Dust will be. But it's important that CCP takes the positive aspects of MAG and uses them in Dust.
Regis Mark V 91	Posted - 2012.09.12 11:44:00 - [24] - Quote MAG was and is better than Dust could ever hope to be. Planetside 2 is and will be better than Dust. But but it has competitive play Competitive play aka corp/clan battles mean **** if gunplay and movement sucks!
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1592	Posted - 2012.09.12 11:46:00 - [25] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Dust is weak compared to MAG. You can't do the worm in Dust. Lame or what? OMG, really? What is with people these days that are so compelled to compare an incomplete beta (Dust) to a finished product (MAG)? There are no comparisons when one is incomplete in terms of development and another is complete. At least wait until Dust 514 is released. Then you can make the comparison. Sheesh.
Brahma El Indio Bragian Order Amarr Empire 171	Posted - 2012.09.12 12:20:00 - [26] - Quote Regis Mark V wrote: MAG was and is better than Dust could ever hope to be. Planetside 2 is and will be better than Dust. But but it has competitive play Competitive play aka corp/clan battles mean **** if gunplay and movement sucks! Wow. That's a big turn around from one of the biggest supporters of dust and the biggest detractors of ps2. Gotta say though, my experience with the two betas, PS2 is far closer to MAG and has been much more enjoyable, even as a beta, than dust. I'm not saying dust is bad or garbage or anything like that, its just not as good as the ps2 beta. PS2 is grander than MAG even in beta, where dust is a poor cousin to MAG while still a beta. Sure, MAG was a finished product, but as far as betas go, PS2 is ex MAG player heaven. Edit: hey Regis what does Stew think of your new opinion? Lol
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.09.12 12:37:00 - [27] - Quote Okay.. I love MAG as much as the next persons, and I was there playing MAG since the first [beta], but seriously the two are far from one another. They share the same grandeur ideas, and I do think CCP tries to pay homage when it can -- dropsuits and whatnot. However as everyone has said the two are far from one another. PlanetSide2 probably feels more like MAG, but that is more explainable by the fact that Sony and it's branch SOE (Sony Online Entertainement) own the IP (Intelectual Property) known as MAG and I can assure that some of people from Zipper probably took jobs with Sony again even after Sony closed down Zipper Interactive. Just saying things can be explained for that feeling of magic. In terms though MAG compared to either Dust514, or PlanetSide2 is the ancient ancestor to a much grandeur realization. It's still a solid title to be sure. It's just a shame that Sony and both Zipper allowed it to die, and hindered it from ever being truelly better. They can pay their homage, but the three are still different with only loose ties to one another.
Brahma El Indio Bragian Order Amarr Empire 171	Posted - 2012.09.12 12:59:00 - [28] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: Okay.. I love MAG as much as the next persons, and I was there playing MAG since the first [beta], but seriously the two are far from one another. They share the same grandeur ideas, and I do think CCP tries to pay homage when it can -- dropsuits and whatnot. However as everyone has said the two are far from one another. PlanetSide2 probably feels more like MAG, but that is more explainable by the fact that Sony and it's branch SOE (Sony Online Entertainement) own the IP (Intelectual Property) known as MAG and I can assure that some of people from Zipper probably took jobs with Sony again even after Sony closed down Zipper Interactive. Just saying things can be explained for that feeling of magic. In terms though MAG compared to either Dust514, or PlanetSide2 is the ancient ancestor to a much grandeur realization. It's still a solid title to be sure. It's just a shame that Sony and both Zipper allowed it to die, and hindered it from ever being truelly better. They can pay their homage, but the three are still different with only loose ties to one another. Partially true and I only say that because MAG was modelled from the original Planetside.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.09.12 13:08:00 - [29] - Quote Brahma El Indio wrote: Rorek IronBlood wrote: Okay.. I love MAG as much as the next persons, and I was there playing MAG since the first [beta], but seriously the two are far from one another. They share the same grandeur ideas, and I do think CCP tries to pay homage when it can -- dropsuits and whatnot. However as everyone has said the two are far from one another. PlanetSide2 probably feels more like MAG, but that is more explainable by the fact that Sony and it's branch SOE (Sony Online Entertainement) own the IP (Intelectual Property) known as MAG and I can assure that some of people from Zipper probably took jobs with Sony again even after Sony closed down Zipper Interactive. Just saying things can be explained for that feeling of magic. In terms though MAG compared to either Dust514, or PlanetSide2 is the ancient ancestor to a much grandeur realization. It's still a solid title to be sure. It's just a shame that Sony and both Zipper allowed it to die, and hindered it from ever being truelly better. They can pay their homage, but the three are still different with only loose ties to one another. Partially true and I only say that because MAG was modelled from the original Planetside. Which was pretty large for it's time -- however also it had the advantage of being at the time it's only competition, and on the computer too with a subscription fee. Meaning constant reveneu and profit. I knew one person who played the original PlanetSide he enjoyed it. He had his nitpickings at the time though. MAG though helped to set a bar though for the home entertainement systems though. It tried atleast..
TotalBreakage Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 410	Posted - 2012.09.12 13:09:00 - [30] - Quote Lol if Stew360 saw this he would be having a nerdgasm. I wish I could try PS2 but unfortunately I don't have a gaming computer and I'm not about to buy one.



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