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Heinz Doofenshertz
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Posted - 2012.09.09 13:30:00 -
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UPDATE: with open Beta, we are now in full release mode, WOOT
Hey guys, I'm here today to introduce something I've been working on for the Dust514 Community: Dust514stats. Now that we've finished up with some initial closed testing we are looking to release it to the wider beta community.
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Just what is Dust514stats? DUST514stats is built to help the community by providing both statistics tracking, and a deeper look into the statistics themselves. The site works by tracking member's characters kills, deaths and warpoints over time. Using these numbers, the site offers two new statistics; a Support Ratio, a simple comparison of war points generated for things other than kills to those generated by kills; and a Combo Score. This score is a combination of statistics which are run thru various formulas to derive a statistic that reflects better the game play of Dust514 as not just a shooter, but a squad based game. The Combo score, while complex in generation, is rather simple. We consider anything higher than .7 to be a good score with 2 being the very top of the range, though very rare. Beyond these new statistics, we have a progression graphs, and a leader board allowing you to track yourself and see where you rank against others with our scores.
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We are also implementing a system to help corporations and players to find each other. Corporations can have members register as Recruiters. Recruiters can then contact other players who have set their Mercenary's as recruitable via their profiles, but without the player needing to expose any contact details to the recruiter.-á We're also looking to use the API for DUST to be able to automatically update your statistics (as opposed to the current manual updates), but this isn't available from CCP yet.
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http://www.dust514stats.com
We also now have a mobile site for updates once you have created an account and created a character. it's still very rough but we are working on it. www.dust514stats.com/mobile.cfm
Anyway, have a go, and send me a message at [email protected] if you have any problems, suggestions or other feedback.
I would like to thank Grideris for help with this write up, as I am not always the best writer.
Update: We have updated the formulation to include the Win loss ratio CCP has provided us, sorry for the delay in adding it, as it took time to adjust the formulation.
Additional Update: We have added a new stat, this one at this time, will not be added to the leader boards. It is your support points per death. it is an average of the number of support points you earn per death in a match. Remember every time you die, you give away 50 points ;)
More Updates: Corp Section has been made live, we have reconfigured alot of things, including your ability to pledge alligence to your corp. if your a corp CEO and want you corp included email us at [email protected] with 2 web safe hexcode colors one light one dark and a logo 100x100 that would be able to pass the ccp rules laid out here: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Alliance_logo_submission_process
Further Updates: Completely rewrote the entire back end of the site for characters. if you find any errors please let me know. but it should be functioning. We have added avatars so now you can add a pic to your merc. and we continue to work on various other features. We did have to do a complete wipe of all Character information for this update, but should any more wipes become nessisary we have a way to do so without deleting characters, and have improved backend functionality for when we get the api. |
Gridboss
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.09 13:33:00 -
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I endorse this product and/or service (and this writing  ) |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.09 13:38:00 -
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Basically your stats say tanking ftw. Good job on that. Remove vehicle/kill assists and you'd actually have a decent support stat which doesn't blatantly favor vehicle use. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.09 13:40:00 -
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tanking is accounted for sir
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Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.09.09 13:44:00 -
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Say hello to Eve-kill's little brother... |
Ferocitan
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Posted - 2012.09.09 13:53:00 -
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I get no email for verification.. yet
Got it.
BUGREPORT:
after the authentication succeded. I pressed login/Register.
Mail with the error sendt to your mail. |
Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
225
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Posted - 2012.09.09 14:27:00 -
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But, aren't you evil? Wait `till I find Perry..... |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.09.09 14:36:00 -
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I will only support this if KD is taken out.
The only stats that this game really needs is warpoints,and variations of SP and ISK earned and wins and losses.Everything else is pretty much irrelevant.
K/D ratios are just another tool to support lone wolfing. |
dent 308
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
967
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Posted - 2012.09.09 15:11:00 -
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What is the datasource? Is the dust api up? |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:05:00 -
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no the dust api is not up yet, we are using manual insertion, however the data is monitored for abberations.
Kills and Deaths are used as part messures, because they are one of the few data points we have at the moment. more data points will be added as they given to us.
Bug reports have been received and will be processed as soon as possible, thank you for inclusion of the error code. |
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:21:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:tanking is accounted for sir
How so? You need to explain your Maths... |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:27:00 -
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I am sorry, but I am unable to comply with that request |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:34:00 -
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Then your stats are meaningless.
I like the nation option though. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:41:00 -
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I'm sorry you feel this way, but as it has taken along time to create these statistics, giving them away would be detrimental. I hope that in the future we can provide some assistance to you in other ways. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:41:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:I will only support this if KD is taken out.
The only stats that this game really needs is warpoints,and variations of SP and ISK earned and wins and losses.Everything else is pretty much irrelevant.
K/D ratios are just another tool to support lone wolfing.
kd ratio doesnt support lone wolfing btw
thats a terrible argument.
if im in a grp chances are ill stay alive more due to having backup
ppl look down on kd all the time like its **** as an excuse for them blindly rushing objectives to get slaughtered over and over and claim "we were playin the objective"
no using that "playin the objective" as an excuse to be bad at the game isnt right. Not sayin u but speaking in general this is what alot of ppl in the FPS community likes to think.
Smart ppl will clear an area of hostiles 1st then look to initiate the capture of an objective then would need to setup to defend it and if u have a decent kd while pushing the objective then kd matters , campers and tankers need not apply here speaking solely of infantry.
It means ur chances of success at gettin to the objective and completing it are gonna be higher than the peeps with low kds who just runs in blindly or has no gun game and gets repeatedly slaughtered.
Now kd isnt the be all end all of a players abilities but it gives a decent guideline into if someone has potential/is good |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:45:00 -
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PS: what is combo ratio? |
Raynor Ragna
266
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:46:00 -
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Keeping 0 in Warpoints returns an error. |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
660
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:47:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:I'm sorry you feel this way, but as it has taken along time to create these statistics, giving them away would be detrimental. I hope that in the future we can provide some assistance to you in other ways.
Good for you protecting your hard work.
Tony Calif wrote:Then your stats are meaningless.
I like the nation option though.
I don't see your point. Do you also ask Google for their analytics formula or other sites you use? Of course not.
This guy spent a lot of effort building his site. If you don't like it, don't use it. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:48:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:I'm sorry you feel this way, but as it has taken along time to create these statistics, giving them away would be detrimental. I hope that in the future we can provide some assistance to you in other ways.
How is it detrimental to explain your numbers? Detrimental to whom? Forget it. It's pretty usual to give the formula used to work out a statistic.
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Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:52:00 -
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Yes 0 WP would return an error as if you have played a game you would have war points of some kind. and for the formulas to be run it can not be 0.
As to the combo ratio, it is a number generated by combining and weighing about 9 different statistics derived from those provided.over the course of the last 4 months me and several others have developed this number with the help of many other people, and numbers pulled from the Leaderboards in game. |
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.09.09 19:56:00 -
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Wow,I hate this forum.had a nice response about KDR,and it didn't get posted nor saved.Seems like this forum is another thing that CCP really needs to fix. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1005
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Posted - 2012.09.09 19:58:00 -
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nice work rucdoc ^^
betamax supports dust stats ^^
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Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.10 04:18:00 -
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Th3rdSun I am sorry your post about KDR was lost. I understand that alot of people do not like KDR as a statistic, as most people think it has to be insanely high or your rubbish. I Disagree with this thought process, which is why the stats on my site were developed. However, ignoring a statistic, no matter how hated, in trying to analyze someones ability can not be done. However it is not the end all be all, the support ratio we have shows your ratio of helping you team, captures, spawns, assists, ect. vs your kills, so even if you only get a few kills, but score a ton of support points, your support ratio is going to be very high, showing the world your a great logibro.
I encourage people to expand their understanding of what statistics can mean. and not just stop at how many people they can kill. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.09.10 04:30:00 -
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I'll have to check this out, sounds like the kind of info I've been wishing the end of match wrap up would display. (I will also mentally prepare myself to be reminded how much of a noob I still ham )
Thanks for putting this together :)
Cross |
Etero Narciss
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
112
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Posted - 2012.09.10 04:34:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:Th3rdSun I am sorry your post about KDR was lost. I understand that alot of people do not like KDR as a statistic, as most people think it has to be insanely high or your rubbish. I Disagree with this thought process, which is why the stats on my site were developed. However, ignoring a statistic, no matter how hated, in trying to analyze someones ability can not be done. However it is not the end all be all, the support ratio we have shows your ratio of helping you team, captures, spawns, assists, ect. vs your kills, so even if you only get a few kills, but score a ton of support points, your support ratio is going to be very high, showing the world your a great logibro.
I encourage people to expand their understanding of what statistics can mean. and not just stop at how many people they can kill.
You. I like you. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.10 04:59:00 -
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Thank you |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
291
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Posted - 2012.09.10 05:06:00 -
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I support this product/service. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:55:00 -
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Thank you for the support |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:22:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:I will only support this if KD is taken out.
The only stats that this game really needs is warpoints,and variations of SP and ISK earned and wins and losses.Everything else is pretty much irrelevant.
K/D ratios are just another tool to support lone wolfing. Those with the Highest KD's also have the most war points, ISK, and SP.
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Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
131
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:16:00 -
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Maybe I'm missing something, and I haven't put my stats in yet, but how are you getting these Combo/Support numbers if the only stats you can plug in are kills, deaths, and war points?
Are you just taking Kill number x50, subtracting that from the Warpoints and using the resulting number for Support and Combo? Because that doesn't seem to take into consideration kill assists, healing, hacks, people using your nanohives and droplinks, etc. It seems like someone who heals people and throws down a lot of drop uplinks and nanohives would get a higher Support score than someone with the same "Warpoints left over after kills" who just hacks stuff. Unless you are counting support as supporting the whole team in a game, in which case the opposite would be true.
And I haven't even touched on the monkey wrench that the squad objectives bonus gives to warpoints yet.
Still, I appreciate the time and effort put into this and support the idea. Also, I understand it's still a beta, because I know someone is going to point that out. |
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Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:29:00 -
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Parson, yes we understand that section of the war point system, I have been in the beta a very long time. And yes Support is currently defined as any action which would result in war points except for those gained by kills. and yes we only use 50 for kills, because following your command orders would be considered supporting your team. this probably will change once we have access to the API and can seperate the War points gained from different sources, if that information is included and tracked. I do have training and experience in statistics creation and analysis, as do some of the others who help craft these formula.
Zekain Kade, High KDR does not always mean high WP, SP, or ISK just as High SP, WP, or ISK does not means your KDR is high. That is improper assumption of the statistics. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.09.10 13:48:00 -
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Liking what the site has to offer so far during it's beta stage, looking forward to seeing it grow and refine as Dust does (and as more information is made available to the playerbase, come on CCP you know you want to give us API keys  ..of course I doubt that will happen until launch but even so :) ) |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
131
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Posted - 2012.09.10 13:52:00 -
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Admittedly I haven't taken any sort of statistics course, so maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about, but...
I'm a little skeptical with respect to how the Support and Combo scores are calculated relative to Ambush/Skirmish matches played. In some Ambush maps there aren't any supply depots so it isn't really viable to go in as anything that plays any sort of support role, not to mention that there's nothing to hack.
In other words, I imagine at some point you're going to compare the "Warpoints after Kills" to "Warpoints total" when calculating the Support and/or Combo roles. For those people who maybe prefer Ambush maps, or don't leave a map just because it isn't a Skirmish, it seems like this is going to skew against them because their warpoints from kills is going to be much higher (relative to warpoints total) than someone who either doesn't do as well in ambush maps, or plays predominantly skirmish mode.
I know I sound like I have some vendetta against this whole thing, but I really do like the idea. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.10 16:57:00 -
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Again, you get Support points from more things than hacking, drop a nano hive and resupply others, drop a uplink and let people spawn in, kill assists, repping people, reviving people, blowing up LAV/HAV/Dropships, and Following squad orders. there are plenty of opportunities in both game types to get non kill warpoints. However, no one is forcing anyone to use these stats, or the site, I'm putting it out there to help the community. It's is up to the community on how they use it, atm about 75% of the features are ones requested by members of the community. if you have an idea you think I should add to the site feel free to email me at the address provided in the OP |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.09.10 17:07:00 -
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Signed up. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.11 05:09:00 -
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Hope you enjoy it sir. |
Sake Monster
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
353
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Posted - 2012.09.11 05:20:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:I will only support this if KD is taken out.
The only stats that this game really needs is warpoints,and variations of SP and ISK earned and wins and losses.Everything else is pretty much irrelevant.
K/D ratios are just another tool to support lone wolfing. Those with the Highest KD's also have the most war points, ISK, and SP.
Incorrect sir. I have less than 2,000 kills and my kdr is less than 2, but i have massive WP, isk, and SP because I am a really good command logi usually with a great squad following my orders. There is plenty of opportunity for greatness and advancement without being just a killer |
Rugman91
Deep Space Republic
143
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Posted - 2012.09.11 05:25:00 -
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Thank you for your contribution |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.11 08:18:00 -
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we are happy your happy |
Captain-Awesome
38
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Posted - 2012.09.11 18:25:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:we are happy your happy
I'm no longer bottom of the list. what can I do to change this?
I figure tony wants to copy the idea otherwise he wouldn't be so adamant about getting equations to the end result, it doesn't concern him.
if ya don't like it, build your own. |
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Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.09.11 23:29:00 -
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What are your plans for data tracking between wipes? (of course this won't be an issue once live, and I doubt it will be a problem no matter how it's handled but I'm curious by nature  ) |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.12 05:31:00 -
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sadly when the wipe comes, I'm gonna dump the data I have, and then wipe the current chars. then I will sift thru all the data and do some statistics, and we all start over at 0. Once the game goes live, well yeah it's live and unless something goes sideways there won't be any wipes of data. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.09.14 00:54:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:sadly when the wipe comes, I'm gonna dump the data I have, and then wipe the current chars. then I will sift thru all the data and do some statistics, and we all start over at 0. Once the game goes live, well yeah it's live and unless something goes sideways there won't be any wipes of data.
Fair enough, I can see motives for doing it either way and you're the one building it so clearly it's your call (not to mention you have more info than I do). In any event thanks for the heads up and I'll try to make sure I update as near to right before wipe as I can because I'm interested to see what my final stats are on this build.
Cheers,
Cross
oh, and thanks again for the tool :) |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.14 06:54:00 -
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your welcome, the other reason for the wipe, as stated above is so I can do one last fine tune of the formulas before live, and make sure that they are functioning properly.
I hope you are all enjoying the tool, and if you have any suggestions or requests please let me know. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.14 07:09:00 -
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We are working hard to make sure this site is future capable. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.09.17 07:15:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:your welcome, the other reason for the wipe, as stated above is so I can do one last fine tune of the formulas before live, and make sure that they are functioning properly.
I hope you are all enjoying the tool, and if you have any suggestions or requests please let me know.
I have a minor request for during beta, would you please post here a few hours (or a day?) before you do the wipe?
I'd like to record my final stats and compare them to how I progress in the next build, give myself some context for what's working and what isn't.
I'm sure I'll have more substantive feedback as things progress, with the next build displaying more information (or so I've heard) and once APIs are opened up. Till then many of them will just have to wait (an ISK earned/destroyed/lost tally for example would be great but as far as I know the data to do that isn't available yet).
Cheers,
Cross |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.18 17:16:00 -
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I should be able to comply with that. and yes, I'm already working on api systems, using the current eve api system as a testbed. |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.09.18 18:44:00 -
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I dont see my name anywhere i guess ill comeback later. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.19 03:22:00 -
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I'm sorry you can't find your self, have you tried adding your data? |
Sake Monster
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
353
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Posted - 2012.09.19 08:30:00 -
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Hey Heinz, just a suggestion but when you click on a category it defaults to showing the list from low score-high score. Thinking it should default to the high score on the top. Not a big deal but how most statistic listings operate. Anyway, i support this and can't wait til it links with the API so everyone is shown. Nice work. |
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Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.19 08:40:00 -
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actually what is happening is both the focus and the direction are changed with the same click, so if with the list inverted you click a different set it will revert for that list. it's a feature I will talk with my coder about. |
Mister Hunt
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2012.09.19 09:18:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:I'm sorry you feel this way, but as it has taken along time to create these statistics, giving them away would be detrimental. I hope that in the future we can provide some assistance to you in other ways. How is it detrimental to explain your numbers? Detrimental to whom? Forget it. It's pretty usual to give the formula used to work out a statistic.
Where is the formulas that you claim are open source? Not even BCS formulas are out in the open. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.19 12:53:00 -
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BCS formula explained.
http://www.bcsknowhow.com/bcs-formula
@The side who said I'd steal the formula and make my own website... LoL. Why would I bother if this site exist? Pointless much?
@Heinz
Reading the explanations you have given I'd say your combo score doesn't take into account tank assist. In fairness we don't have the raw data (no assists/vehicle assists stat on char sheet), so I'm stickIng with my original view that the results are highly subjective. Good job anyway. When they allow us to provide more accurate data (assists, repair points, basically all the stats MAG gave you...) I might get something out of it. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.20 07:04:00 -
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I'm sorry tony, but I am still not releasing the formula. I feel we have properly taken tanks into account, but yes as more data is avalible it will be used. I would hope you would get something out of the site now if for nothing else then the tracking over you stats over time, even if you disagree with them |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.25 08:57:00 -
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Just a quick Update, we have seperated the KDR graph from the other scores, as this was causing some issues for those with really high KDR, and have begun code refinement to allow corporations to have their own look within the site. I would once again like to say thank you to everyone is helping to test the site. and we hope that it helps you in the future. |
Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.25 09:51:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:BCS formula explained. http://www.bcsknowhow.com/bcs-formula@The side who said I'd steal the formula and make my own website... LoL. Why would I bother if this site exist? Pointless much? @Heinz Reading the explanations you have given I'd say your combo score doesn't take into account tank assist. In fairness we don't have the raw data (no assists/vehicle assists stat on char sheet), so I'm stickIng with my original view that the results are highly subjective. Good job anyway. When they allow us to provide more accurate data (assists, repair points, basically all the stats MAG gave you...) I might get something out of it.
Fact of the matter is, if someone is tearing it up, it doesn't really matter in New Eden how they did it. If a massive cap fleet takes your entire alliance to pieces...too bad, so sad.
If someone is posting up great scores and points because they are a great tanker, cool. Dropship pilot? Cool. Dedicated turreteer? Good, I want you on my team in our turrets. Discounting vehicles because they aren't "gun game" enough in this game just doesn't have a place. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.25 12:21:00 -
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it's not that we are discounting tankers, or anyone else, however, the formula takes them into account so that everyone, no matter the play style can be judged with the same numbers. If you look at the leaderboard, you will find tankers at the top, in the middle and at the bottom, same as logibros, snipers, and heavies. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.09.28 06:04:00 -
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Looking like the wipe may happen next week, and with news that the API system for Dust and the new API system for EVE will be the same system it sounds like good days ahead for Dust stats
Again thanks for putting this together great to be able to track progress along more than one vector.
Cheers,
Cross |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.09.30 05:31:00 -
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Thank you for your support and yes it looks like the Wipe will occur on monday morning, I will also be doing a stat wipe and have sent a message to all users about this. if you wish to get your final scores in and copy them down please do so before DT on monday, as I am not sure when monday morning I will be doing the updates.
Have a great final weekend for this build and a Great time in the new build. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.01 13:56:00 -
[60] - Quote
Will you be sending another e-mail once the site is up and running again now that CODEX is live, or should we just keep trying 
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Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.10.02 03:02:00 -
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The Site is now back live, with an updated Formula and a new section that we are working on, the ability for corps to appoint recruiters and be able to send recruitment messages to players who have said their mercs are recruitable, without having to give out contact information. this feature is live on the char side, but not on the recruiter side as that is being worked on.
We will be sending out an Email letting everyone know the site is back active, and waiting for them. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.10.03 14:51:00 -
[62] - Quote
After a few requests from folks, we have added a mobile site to the site, it's very rough, and still needs work, but I figured I'd let you guys use it if you want. It is very no frills, and can only update exsisting characters. Anyway heres the site link
www.dust514stats.com/mobile.cfm |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.03 15:43:00 -
[63] - Quote
Info updated, as always thanks for the service.
Cross |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.10.03 21:57:00 -
[64] - Quote
we aim to please.
work will continue over the next week to improve the mobile site.
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J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.10.03 22:36:00 -
[65] - Quote
Once DUST API can be used this will be a good site. For now its just a nice foundation, but kudoes noentheless. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.10.04 03:37:00 -
[66] - Quote
thank you, I hope you enjoy your stay :) |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.04 03:51:00 -
[67] - Quote
I second the looking forward to Dust API sentiment.
Site already provides useful info above and beyond game client, going to be so much the better once the API is live.
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Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.10.05 03:38:00 -
[68] - Quote
I have updated the main post to include the link for the mobile site, and we have updated the mobile code so it displays a bit better. please forgive me for the roughness of it, as coding for mobile devices is new to me. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.10.06 21:03:00 -
[69] - Quote
As a note, please do not add corporation stats to the site, at this time we are not setup for corps |
Seamie Schmoove
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
64
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Posted - 2012.10.07 04:18:00 -
[70] - Quote
It would seem I've done something different the last few days as my CR has plummeted
Definitely like what you've done here guys. Look forward to seeing the future of the site |
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Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.10.16 06:20:00 -
[71] - Quote
Just a quick update for all our users, and everyone else, we have updated the data entry to include the Win loss ratio CCP has provided. We do appologize for the delay in including it, but we needed to run alot of data thru the system to make sure the new version of the formula is balanced. Thank you all for your continued support. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.16 06:30:00 -
[72] - Quote
Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:Just a quick update for all our users, and everyone else, we have updated the data entry to include the Win loss ratio CCP has provided. We do appologize for the delay in including it, but we needed to run alot of data thru the system to make sure the new version of the formula is balanced. Thank you all for your continued support.
Looks like I'll have to update my data
Also gives me extra incentive to prod CCP again about fixing the whole "drop you into the last 25% of the match and punish you if you leave" thing
Thanks for the updates  |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.10.16 07:10:00 -
[73] - Quote
Looks like I forgot to upload one of the files, sorry bout that it is fixed now. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.10.21 22:20:00 -
[74] - Quote
Just wanted to let everyone know we Have added a new stat to the site, Support Points Per Death. It's pretty self explanitory it is the average number of support points you earn for every time you die. at this time we do not intend on adding this to the leaderboard, if you think we should let us know. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.23 22:08:00 -
[75] - Quote
The more info the better, keep it commin' |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.10.31 09:19:00 -
[76] - Quote
Just wanted to let everyone know we are working on some layout changes. not sure when they will be finished but do not be alarmed if the site looks different every so often |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.10.31 11:51:00 -
[77] - Quote
Implement weekly and monthly stats...and it will be uber awesome |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.12.14 18:48:00 -
[78] - Quote
Quote:
Self-evaluation
As a mercenary, your battle history defines you, so knowing how you performed and in what areas you can improve is vital. Going forward, the end of battle screen will provide a comprehensive breakdown of your battle stats, allowing you to compare your performance with friends and rivals.
Source: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/12/11/dust-514-war-and-profit/
Looks like you'll have more to work with very soon |
axis alpha
Red Star.
30
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Posted - 2012.12.14 20:54:00 -
[79] - Quote
buncha crock. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.12.16 10:18:00 -
[80] - Quote
I know Cross, I welcome the new stats.
Axis, can you ellaborate on what you dislike about the site, otherwise how can I address it :)
As a bit of an update. I have added a new option for recruiters, but that will be left to an email to the to expound on. I am also working on the corp section for the site. for the time being only the admin will be able to add corps or update their stats until we have a way of ensuring that only ceo's have the ability to add or update their corps so that we can ensure data authenticity.
Again if you have any problems, questions, suggestions please email me. If your a ceo and want a custom color set for the site for you corp, or want someone to be able to act as a recruiter for you, send an email to [email protected] Understand that I do have to limit these options to ceo's only as they are the only people we can verify without access to the api. |
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1005
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Posted - 2012.12.16 11:20:00 -
[81] - Quote
I, for one, rejoice at our new statistics overlords! |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2012.12.20 11:10:00 -
[82] - Quote
WOOT, Just wanted to let everyone know that after a very long week of coding we have re-written alot of the site, expanded the corp section, and updated the alligence ability of all our users. if your corp is in our database you can select it and have a color set picked by your corp leaders as well as your corp logo at the top of the page. to change this simply go to the edit my account page off the dropdown from your user name. if your corp isn't on the list poke your corp ceo and have him send a mail with the following: 2 web safe hex code colors one light one dark, and a 100x100 pixel logo that will pass the rules set forth by ccp here: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Alliance_logo_submission_process to [email protected] we do have to limit this to corp ceo's as this information needs to be verified in game so that someone doesn't hyjack your corp and do something not nice to the colors.
Again at this time updates to corp stats will be done by our admin staff to make sure all corp data is updated properly and ensure that the data is correct. once we get API access these will become automatic and released to the director or ceo's of the corps.
Have a great day and a merry Christmas. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2013.01.11 07:30:00 -
[83] - Quote
Another Update, We have done a full Wipe of all Characters as well as a data wipe for Corps. We have re-writen the entire back end of the site for Characters to make in function better. I updated the OP to reflect some of the changes made. as always if you have any issues let me know, and may all your battles be profitable |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2013.01.14 07:30:00 -
[84] - Quote
quick update the mobile version of the site has been reactivated. it can be accessed at www.dust514stats.com/mobile.cfm
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Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:28:00 -
[85] - Quote
We are now Live |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Talos Incorporated
153
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Posted - 2013.01.23 04:24:00 -
[86] - Quote
How long should it take for the confirmation email to reach the address? I've been waiting for 30 minutes since my registration now. |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
131
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Posted - 2013.01.23 05:30:00 -
[87] - Quote
How do you add statistics for the Corporation you're in? |
All Hail GLORT
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.01.23 06:22:00 -
[88] - Quote
Heinz ,
Your Combo Ratio is slightly broken ... It will not allow values above 2. My character has several entries that should have had a Combo Ratio above 2.0 but your table defaulted it down to 1.xx.
My character has a KDR bouncing between 3.0 - 3.5 and a support ratio hovering around 1.5 and his Combo Ratio changes from the 1.8 - 1.9 range to 1.0 - 1.1 range instead of going up to 2.0 - 2.1 range. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2013.01.23 12:21:00 -
[89] - Quote
This is not an error. |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Talos Incorporated
153
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Posted - 2013.01.23 12:30:00 -
[90] - Quote
Heinz, I didn't receive any email from the site post-registration. So now I can neither log in not register again. What should I do? |
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Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2013.01.23 13:48:00 -
[91] - Quote
I will look into this as soon as I can
EDIT: should be fixed now |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2013.01.27 11:14:00 -
[92] - Quote
Bump |
Sada Mokmo
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2013.01.30 18:33:00 -
[93] - Quote
So basically, the stats we're given in game are Kills, Kill/Death Ratio, Warpoints and Win/Loss Ratio.
So whe have to somehow calculate the Deaths number... Or i can't find it in game.
But that's not my problem, my problem is that it keeps saying Sada Mokmo is already used so i can't add her to my account... |
James-5955
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
151
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Posted - 2013.01.30 18:40:00 -
[94] - Quote
Sada Mokmo wrote:So basically, the stats we're given in game are Kills, Kill/Death Ratio, Warpoints and Win/Loss Ratio.
So whe have to somehow calculate the Deaths number... Or i can't find it in game.
But that's not my problem, my problem is that it keeps saying Sada Mokmo is already used so i can't add her to my account...
Character sheet shows your death count.
I find it difficult to put any faith into stats that I don't know the calculations behind though. That being said, sadly until I know the calculations I consider the site just as useful at the leaderboard in the game. |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
183
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Posted - 2013.01.30 19:16:00 -
[95] - Quote
Any logibros want to share their 'support per death' stat? Mine is 90 atm. I think its probably low. |
Naturi Riclenore
BetaMax.
120
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Posted - 2013.01.30 19:43:00 -
[96] - Quote
James-5955 wrote:Sada Mokmo wrote:So basically, the stats we're given in game are Kills, Kill/Death Ratio, Warpoints and Win/Loss Ratio.
So whe have to somehow calculate the Deaths number... Or i can't find it in game.
But that's not my problem, my problem is that it keeps saying Sada Mokmo is already used so i can't add her to my account... Character sheet shows your death count. I find it difficult to put any faith into stats that I don't know the calculations behind though. That being said, sadly until I know the calculations I consider the site just as useful at the leaderboard in the game.
how can you not figure out the calculations.. they are fairly simple if you just look at them. The homepage even explains them.
The calculations are simple:
KDR = We all know how this one is calculated
Support Ratio = WP's for Support vs WP's for Kills... Support / Kill ratio
Support per death = How many WP's you get every DEATH that is not related directly to KILLS (50 WPs for a kill)
Combo Ratio = Combines other scores (for instance, Support Ratio, KDR, Kills |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2013.01.30 20:04:00 -
[97] - Quote
The only stat that I have not said how it's calculated is the Combo score, which I will not be revealing sorry. |
Jason Punk
DUST University
Ivy League
71
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Posted - 2013.01.30 20:11:00 -
[98] - Quote
This a fantastic step in the right direction and I'm looking forward to a more open CREST so we can get this thing up and running. Thank you for all the passion and work so far fellas |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
183
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Posted - 2013.01.30 20:20:00 -
[99] - Quote
So I figured out Support Ratio:
It is (WP from support)/(WP from kills). or ((WP-(kills*50))/(kills*50)) |
DEADPOOL5241
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
231
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Posted - 2013.01.30 20:56:00 -
[100] - Quote
Beren Hurin wrote:Any logibros want to share their 'support per death' stat? Mine is 90 atm. I think its probably low.
145.074 support per death
Combo ranking of 1.9525
Support Ratio 1.4391 |
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Naturi Riclenore
BetaMax.
120
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Posted - 2013.01.30 20:59:00 -
[101] - Quote
ill post again as my original post was blank..
KDR = We all know how this one is calculated
Support Ratio = WP's for Support vs WP's for Kills... Support / Kill ratio
Support per death = How many WP's you get every DEATH that is not related directly to KILLS (50 WPs for a kill)
Combo Ratio = Combines other scores (for instance, Support Ratio, KDR, Kills
2.963 - Support 0.850 - Combo 253 -K 742 - D
50,136 - WP 50.520 - Support Per Death
12,650
37,486
KDR = K / D (simple)
Support Ratio = Warpoints from Support / Warpoints From Kills
Support Per death = (WP - (Kill*50 )) / Deaths
Combo = he's keeping it secret |
James-5955
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
151
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Posted - 2013.01.30 21:08:00 -
[102] - Quote
Naturi Riclenore wrote:ill post again as my original post was blank..
KDR = We all know how this one is calculated
Support Ratio = WP's for Support vs WP's for Kills Ratio ... (similar to KDR only with WP's)
Support per death = How many WP's you get every DEATH that is not related directly to KILLS (50 WPs for a kill)
Combo Ratio = Combines other scores (for instance, Support Ratio, KDR, Kills
If I end up needing to look at stats to compare a logi or tanker to each other then I know where to look :)
Thanks for the hard work. |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
183
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Posted - 2013.01.30 21:13:00 -
[103] - Quote
Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:The only stat that I have not said how it's calculated is the Combo score, which I will not be revealing sorry.
How much would you pay a mercenary for it not to be revealed...not saying I know it yet...I suck at algebra, but I know some excel-fu. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2013.02.09 08:42:00 -
[104] - Quote
I pay alot to keep it safe, I have 4 corps guarding it :)
I have a few small updates posted today, the Leaderboards are now outward facing, been meaning to do this since the NDA dropped, but had not. it's done, I also added the timestmap to the leaderboards for when that merc was last updated, so you can shame your friends and enemies into updating :P and I am tracking two new stats in the background to see how they play out before I make them public. the first is deathpoints, it's just what it sounds like the base points you have given away for your deaths, the second is a refactor of the support per death into a ratio, so new and old at the same time, but can be used for other things more easily MWAHAHAHAHAHA.
also I entered into the fansite skirmish, though I don't think I qualify, as you guys provide the content not me, But hey maybe I can win, a outside the box prize :P
Thanks again for the support. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2013.02.11 09:34:00 -
[105] - Quote
Added 2 more stats and displayed 4 of the new ones you guys weren't getting yet.
so go and Update, see the new stats, let me know what you think |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
164
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Posted - 2013.02.11 11:49:00 -
[106] - Quote
Awesome work fella :)
ETA on auto update from servers, and no account requirement? |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2013.02.17 09:47:00 -
[107] - Quote
ETA on Crest Implimitation is Soon(tm)
Probably not going to drop the account requirement fully, as it's a barrier to spam merc additions, gives me a way to contact all my users, and ensures the only one who can update your merc is you.
So for an Update about the site, I have posted a inital release of the ability to see which mercs are from which corps, this is a very rough page still, as it is not liking me right now, but it lists the names of those who have said they are members of that corp.
If you know some of your members are on the site, but not listed for your corp, poke them to update their account with your corp as their selected empire. |
Scalesdini
Universal Allies Inc.
58
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Posted - 2013.02.17 18:25:00 -
[108] - Quote
The site is missing Universal Allies as one of the corps you can select. |
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