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Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.09 13:30:00 -
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UPDATE: with open Beta, we are now in full release mode, WOOT
Hey guys, I'm here today to introduce something I've been working on for the Dust514 Community: Dust514stats. Now that we've finished up with some initial closed testing we are looking to release it to the wider beta community.
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Just what is Dust514stats? DUST514stats is built to help the community by providing both statistics tracking, and a deeper look into the statistics themselves. The site works by tracking member's characters kills, deaths and warpoints over time. Using these numbers, the site offers two new statistics; a Support Ratio, a simple comparison of war points generated for things other than kills to those generated by kills; and a Combo Score. This score is a combination of statistics which are run thru various formulas to derive a statistic that reflects better the game play of Dust514 as not just a shooter, but a squad based game. The Combo score, while complex in generation, is rather simple. We consider anything higher than .7 to be a good score with 2 being the very top of the range, though very rare. Beyond these new statistics, we have a progression graphs, and a leader board allowing you to track yourself and see where you rank against others with our scores.
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We are also implementing a system to help corporations and players to find each other. Corporations can have members register as Recruiters. Recruiters can then contact other players who have set their Mercenary's as recruitable via their profiles, but without the player needing to expose any contact details to the recruiter.-á We're also looking to use the API for DUST to be able to automatically update your statistics (as opposed to the current manual updates), but this isn't available from CCP yet.
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http://www.dust514stats.com
We also now have a mobile site for updates once you have created an account and created a character. it's still very rough but we are working on it. www.dust514stats.com/mobile.cfm
Anyway, have a go, and send me a message at [email protected] if you have any problems, suggestions or other feedback.
I would like to thank Grideris for help with this write up, as I am not always the best writer.
Update: We have updated the formulation to include the Win loss ratio CCP has provided us, sorry for the delay in adding it, as it took time to adjust the formulation.
Additional Update: We have added a new stat, this one at this time, will not be added to the leader boards. It is your support points per death. it is an average of the number of support points you earn per death in a match. Remember every time you die, you give away 50 points ;)
More Updates: Corp Section has been made live, we have reconfigured alot of things, including your ability to pledge alligence to your corp. if your a corp CEO and want you corp included email us at [email protected] with 2 web safe hexcode colors one light one dark and a logo 100x100 that would be able to pass the ccp rules laid out here: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Alliance_logo_submission_process
Further Updates: Completely rewrote the entire back end of the site for characters. if you find any errors please let me know. but it should be functioning. We have added avatars so now you can add a pic to your merc. and we continue to work on various other features. We did have to do a complete wipe of all Character information for this update, but should any more wipes become nessisary we have a way to do so without deleting characters, and have improved backend functionality for when we get the api. |
Gridboss
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.09 13:33:00 -
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I endorse this product and/or service (and this writing  ) |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.09 13:38:00 -
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Basically your stats say tanking ftw. Good job on that. Remove vehicle/kill assists and you'd actually have a decent support stat which doesn't blatantly favor vehicle use. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.09 13:40:00 -
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tanking is accounted for sir
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Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.09.09 13:44:00 -
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Say hello to Eve-kill's little brother... |
Ferocitan
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Posted - 2012.09.09 13:53:00 -
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I get no email for verification.. yet
Got it.
BUGREPORT:
after the authentication succeded. I pressed login/Register.
Mail with the error sendt to your mail. |
Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.09.09 14:27:00 -
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But, aren't you evil? Wait `till I find Perry..... |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.09 14:36:00 -
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I will only support this if KD is taken out.
The only stats that this game really needs is warpoints,and variations of SP and ISK earned and wins and losses.Everything else is pretty much irrelevant.
K/D ratios are just another tool to support lone wolfing. |
dent 308
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.09.09 15:11:00 -
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What is the datasource? Is the dust api up? |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:05:00 -
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no the dust api is not up yet, we are using manual insertion, however the data is monitored for abberations.
Kills and Deaths are used as part messures, because they are one of the few data points we have at the moment. more data points will be added as they given to us.
Bug reports have been received and will be processed as soon as possible, thank you for inclusion of the error code. |
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:21:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:tanking is accounted for sir
How so? You need to explain your Maths... |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:27:00 -
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I am sorry, but I am unable to comply with that request |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:34:00 -
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Then your stats are meaningless.
I like the nation option though. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:41:00 -
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I'm sorry you feel this way, but as it has taken along time to create these statistics, giving them away would be detrimental. I hope that in the future we can provide some assistance to you in other ways. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:41:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:I will only support this if KD is taken out.
The only stats that this game really needs is warpoints,and variations of SP and ISK earned and wins and losses.Everything else is pretty much irrelevant.
K/D ratios are just another tool to support lone wolfing.
kd ratio doesnt support lone wolfing btw
thats a terrible argument.
if im in a grp chances are ill stay alive more due to having backup
ppl look down on kd all the time like its **** as an excuse for them blindly rushing objectives to get slaughtered over and over and claim "we were playin the objective"
no using that "playin the objective" as an excuse to be bad at the game isnt right. Not sayin u but speaking in general this is what alot of ppl in the FPS community likes to think.
Smart ppl will clear an area of hostiles 1st then look to initiate the capture of an objective then would need to setup to defend it and if u have a decent kd while pushing the objective then kd matters , campers and tankers need not apply here speaking solely of infantry.
It means ur chances of success at gettin to the objective and completing it are gonna be higher than the peeps with low kds who just runs in blindly or has no gun game and gets repeatedly slaughtered.
Now kd isnt the be all end all of a players abilities but it gives a decent guideline into if someone has potential/is good |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:45:00 -
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PS: what is combo ratio? |
Raynor Ragna
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:46:00 -
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Keeping 0 in Warpoints returns an error. |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
660
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:47:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:I'm sorry you feel this way, but as it has taken along time to create these statistics, giving them away would be detrimental. I hope that in the future we can provide some assistance to you in other ways.
Good for you protecting your hard work.
Tony Calif wrote:Then your stats are meaningless.
I like the nation option though.
I don't see your point. Do you also ask Google for their analytics formula or other sites you use? Of course not.
This guy spent a lot of effort building his site. If you don't like it, don't use it. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:48:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:I'm sorry you feel this way, but as it has taken along time to create these statistics, giving them away would be detrimental. I hope that in the future we can provide some assistance to you in other ways.
How is it detrimental to explain your numbers? Detrimental to whom? Forget it. It's pretty usual to give the formula used to work out a statistic.
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Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.09 16:52:00 -
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Yes 0 WP would return an error as if you have played a game you would have war points of some kind. and for the formulas to be run it can not be 0.
As to the combo ratio, it is a number generated by combining and weighing about 9 different statistics derived from those provided.over the course of the last 4 months me and several others have developed this number with the help of many other people, and numbers pulled from the Leaderboards in game. |
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.09.09 19:56:00 -
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Wow,I hate this forum.had a nice response about KDR,and it didn't get posted nor saved.Seems like this forum is another thing that CCP really needs to fix. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.09 19:58:00 -
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nice work rucdoc ^^
betamax supports dust stats ^^
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Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.10 04:18:00 -
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Th3rdSun I am sorry your post about KDR was lost. I understand that alot of people do not like KDR as a statistic, as most people think it has to be insanely high or your rubbish. I Disagree with this thought process, which is why the stats on my site were developed. However, ignoring a statistic, no matter how hated, in trying to analyze someones ability can not be done. However it is not the end all be all, the support ratio we have shows your ratio of helping you team, captures, spawns, assists, ect. vs your kills, so even if you only get a few kills, but score a ton of support points, your support ratio is going to be very high, showing the world your a great logibro.
I encourage people to expand their understanding of what statistics can mean. and not just stop at how many people they can kill. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2012.09.10 04:30:00 -
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I'll have to check this out, sounds like the kind of info I've been wishing the end of match wrap up would display. (I will also mentally prepare myself to be reminded how much of a noob I still ham )
Thanks for putting this together :)
Cross |
Etero Narciss
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.09.10 04:34:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:Th3rdSun I am sorry your post about KDR was lost. I understand that alot of people do not like KDR as a statistic, as most people think it has to be insanely high or your rubbish. I Disagree with this thought process, which is why the stats on my site were developed. However, ignoring a statistic, no matter how hated, in trying to analyze someones ability can not be done. However it is not the end all be all, the support ratio we have shows your ratio of helping you team, captures, spawns, assists, ect. vs your kills, so even if you only get a few kills, but score a ton of support points, your support ratio is going to be very high, showing the world your a great logibro.
I encourage people to expand their understanding of what statistics can mean. and not just stop at how many people they can kill.
You. I like you. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.10 04:59:00 -
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Thank you |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.10 05:06:00 -
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I support this product/service. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:55:00 -
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Thank you for the support |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:22:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:I will only support this if KD is taken out.
The only stats that this game really needs is warpoints,and variations of SP and ISK earned and wins and losses.Everything else is pretty much irrelevant.
K/D ratios are just another tool to support lone wolfing. Those with the Highest KD's also have the most war points, ISK, and SP.
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Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:16:00 -
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Maybe I'm missing something, and I haven't put my stats in yet, but how are you getting these Combo/Support numbers if the only stats you can plug in are kills, deaths, and war points?
Are you just taking Kill number x50, subtracting that from the Warpoints and using the resulting number for Support and Combo? Because that doesn't seem to take into consideration kill assists, healing, hacks, people using your nanohives and droplinks, etc. It seems like someone who heals people and throws down a lot of drop uplinks and nanohives would get a higher Support score than someone with the same "Warpoints left over after kills" who just hacks stuff. Unless you are counting support as supporting the whole team in a game, in which case the opposite would be true.
And I haven't even touched on the monkey wrench that the squad objectives bonus gives to warpoints yet.
Still, I appreciate the time and effort put into this and support the idea. Also, I understand it's still a beta, because I know someone is going to point that out. |
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