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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

SoLJae wrote:

Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:

Why's it a silly IRC transcription?.... You guys are all crying because there's not enough information given to you, someone makes the effort to help you have access to the information as you're too lazy to use IRC and you call him out for trying to help you?

It's silly because in the end it should be an official release of information by CCP on this forum which falls under the NDA.

It's silly because it's basically BIASED information that has been filtered through a non-official source--Iron Wolf Sabre--who relishes his role as "information director."

It's silly because it's like that game "telephone" where you line up ten people in a row, start at one end and whisper to that person a piece of information, that person relays the info to the next in line and so on. At the end, the last person to receive it has a completely different version of the beginning information. He only has the information that he "heard."

Lets play then. Give me a 4 paragraph story and force me to ask that in a form of a question in two or less setences and I have to reguritate an entire chat log longe rthan the character limits back into forum readable format.

IRC dont translate so well between here and the forums. Also CCP had an evil hamster to slay.

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Kengfa 138	Posted - 2012.09.03 13:33:00 - [1] - Quote As you all might not know, we've been meeting the devs in the dust lounge in PS Home, every sunday morning at 12 - EST. Against my better judgement I decided to transcribe this mornings session. Please don't go attacking me, the users or devs or these will stop either from dev end or my end. I present this information for the sake of those who cannot log into PS Home or spend the time to stay up the same hours as I do. I am also gathering questions to ask for next time one pops in so feel free to leave em. Remember keep em short and simple PS Home cant handel entire paragraphs, if your question is better answered in a forum post make the new thread then point it here. Also one of these here came from twitter. CCP nothin dropped in to say hi and give us updates. Unlike previous session with CCP Wolfman, CCP nothin is more of a backgrond person so some questions are answered very differently and some questions where better off waiting for ccp wolfman or CCP Command Wang instead. As stated previously and due to the very informal nature of PS Home all things here are summarized and are not direct quotes. Do not hold the developer accountable for anything not being true everything stated is subject to change and everything here is possible magic crystal ball fuel if anything skin me first. Previous postings can be found here look here first before posting your question I may have missed your due to the last one being burned up a bit. Also focus on the topics discussed below, PS Home and other communciation issues can be discussed here This session was about 3 minutes long. Battleservers crashing ALOT 'Memory Leak, we are trying to plug them but its been difficult but we're on it.' Invalid fits 'Please help us here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=286191#post286191' Normalized suit HP vs Modules vs Skills 'We're talking about reducing direct damage bonsues provided by skills on weapons now that suits are lower hp this will hopefully make modules more prevaltant, however this is only being discussed atm.' Infantry Mobility on maps. 'Things are changing alot here with both maps and infantry it will be difficult to give a clear answer now.' ISK and SP Rewards 'More refinements being made, such as taking into account time on the field, and awarding despite disconnects expect this next build." Compare Market Tool 'Being discussed and a desired feature.' Preview Market items 'Being implimented should make it in next build, possibly, waiting finalization and polish' Mapping Controllers of all kinds 'Ask CCP wolfman' Ghost Battles 'Poking around to see if this is a problem' AV and Suit Hotfix Feedback 'Taking a look into now' Isk Rewards at end of match 'Going to be further elaborated next build also if you disconnect youll be rewarded for what efforts made during the fight' *CCP nothin goes back to work whipping the hamsters back into shape. Possible hinted other ccp people will be on later tongiht.
N3i1c9k5 1	Posted - 2012.09.03 13:37:00 - [2] - Quote You left out a lot of the other things that were discussed there, though. Shouldn`t everybody be able to know what was going on? This is just like the IRC. Why do the devs go there, and to the IRC and not do this themselves?
Kengfa 138	Posted - 2012.09.03 13:38:00 - [3] - Quote N3i1c9k5 wrote: You left out a lot of the other things that were discussed there, though. Shouldn`t everybody be able to know what was going on? This is just like the IRC. Why do the devs go there, and to the IRC and not do this themselves? I can't post everything myself. We've discussed a lot of things with the devs. I just felt that those were the biggest points to bring up here, so I saved myself some time.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.09.03 13:40:00 - [4] - Quote PS home? i installed that then straight uninstalled it when i realised it was ****, thats as bad as the IRC, no even worse because when my PS3 is on im playing games on it not the sims, il buy the sims if i want something better than PS home We have forums for a reason
Kengfa 138	Posted - 2012.09.03 13:44:00 - [5] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: PS home? i installed that then straight uninstalled it when i realised it was ****, thats as bad as the IRC, no even worse because when my PS3 is on im playing games on it not the sims, il buy the sims if i want something better than PS home We have forums for a reason PS Home and the IRC are both instant chats. It makes it easier for the devs. They use both to communicate across a larger audience.
Prince Ombra Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 29	Posted - 2012.09.03 14:01:00 - [6] - Quote So this PS Home meeting happens every Sunday at noon EST? I wish they'd announce that more, I could have gone yesteday.
N3i1c9k5 1	Posted - 2012.09.03 14:06:00 - [7] - Quote Prince Ombra wrote: So this PS Home meeting happens every Sunday at noon EST? I wish they'd announce that more, I could have gone yesteday. Well, someone did post about it yesterday.
a dirty Shisno Algintal Core Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2012.09.03 14:06:00 - [8] - Quote a dirty Shisno gets the point of this thread. Likes. real post
SoLJae ZionTCD Legacy Rising 351	Posted - 2012.09.03 14:06:00 - [9] - Quote Ha lolol Y'all are getting hustled by Kengfa as the OP is a cut and paste of Iron Wolf Sabre's silly IRC transcription.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.03 14:10:00 - [10] - Quote Why's it a silly IRC transcription?.... You guys are all crying because there's not enough information given to you, someone makes the effort to help you have access to the information as you're too lazy to use IRC and you call him out for trying to help you?

a dirty Shisno Algintal Core Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2012.09.03 14:13:00 - [11] - Quote Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: Why's it a silly IRC transcription?.... You guys are all crying because there's not enough information given to you, someone makes the effort to help you have access to the information as you're too lazy to use IRC and you call him out for trying to help you? I believe the point of this thread is to show that even using PS Home is better than using IRC, and not to attack Iron Wolf Saber or his transcript.
SoLJae ZionTCD Legacy Rising 351	Posted - 2012.09.03 14:20:00 - [12] - Quote Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: Why's it a silly IRC transcription?.... You guys are all crying because there's not enough information given to you, someone makes the effort to help you have access to the information as you're too lazy to use IRC and you call him out for trying to help you? It's silly because in the end it should be an official release of information by CCP on this forum which falls under the NDA. It's silly because it's basically BIASED information that has been filtered through a non-official source--Iron Wolf Sabre--who relishes his role as "information director." It's silly because it's like that game "telephone" where you line up ten people in a row, start at one end and whisper to that person a piece of information, that person relays the info to the next in line and so on. At the end, the last person to receive it has a completely different version of the beginning information. He only has the information that he "heard."
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.09.03 14:24:00 - [13] - Quote SoLJae wrote: Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: Why's it a silly IRC transcription?.... You guys are all crying because there's not enough information given to you, someone makes the effort to help you have access to the information as you're too lazy to use IRC and you call him out for trying to help you? It's silly because in the end it should be an official release of information by CCP on this forum which falls under the NDA. It's silly because it's basically BIASED information that has been filtered through a non-official source--Iron Wolf Sabre--who relishes his role as "information director." It's silly because it's like that game "telephone" where you line up ten people in a row, start at one end and whisper to that person a piece of information, that person relays the info to the next in line and so on. At the end, the last person to receive it has a completely different version of the beginning information. He only has the information that he "heard." Lets play then. Give me a 4 paragraph story and force me to ask that in a form of a question in two or less setences and I have to reguritate an entire chat log longe rthan the character limits back into forum readable format. IRC dont translate so well between here and the forums. Also CCP had an evil hamster to slay.
SoLJae ZionTCD Legacy Rising 351	Posted - 2012.09.03 14:34:00 - [14] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: SoLJae wrote: Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: Why's it a silly IRC transcription?.... You guys are all crying because there's not enough information given to you, someone makes the effort to help you have access to the information as you're too lazy to use IRC and you call him out for trying to help you? It's silly because in the end it should be an official release of information by CCP on this forum which falls under the NDA. It's silly because it's basically BIASED information that has been filtered through a non-official source--Iron Wolf Sabre--who relishes his role as "information director." It's silly because it's like that game "telephone" where you line up ten people in a row, start at one end and whisper to that person a piece of information, that person relays the info to the next in line and so on. At the end, the last person to receive it has a completely different version of the beginning information. He only has the information that he "heard." Lets play then. Give me a 4 paragraph story and force me to ask that in a form of a question in two or less setences and I have to reguritate an entire chat log longe rthan the character limits back into forum readable format. IRC dont translate so well between here and the forums. Also CCP had an evil hamster to slay. I'd rather play the actual game of DUST 514 and have CCP provide the official information and question answering right here on this forum. I mean, you have stated your love of espionage or so-called spying in EVE and we are supposed to trust you as a source of information? lol You probably are a cool player/person, Sabre, but there has to be a better way for information dissemination.
Heinz Doofenshertz BetaMax. 360	Posted - 2012.09.03 14:53:00 - [15] - Quote None of the people on IRC say that more information should not be related on the forums, what we are trying to do is inform you of the information we are provided with. ccontinued attacks on the people trying to help will probably result in them stopping their efforts, and then you wold get nothing. TLDR We agree they need to post on the forums more, stop attacking us.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.09.03 16:00:00 - [16] - Quote You dont see any other irc'ers protesting what I transcribed. Also they are my peer review they make sure what I say is in proper tone message and content.
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 314	Posted - 2012.09.03 16:15:00 - [17] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: PS home? i installed that then straight uninstalled it when i realised it was ****, thats as bad as the IRC, no even worse because when my PS3 is on im playing games on it not the sims, il buy the sims if i want something better than PS home We have forums for a reason Q F T
Shadows Maker Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 129	Posted - 2012.09.03 16:26:00 - [18] - Quote Heinz Doofenshertz wrote: None of the people on IRC say that more information should not be related on the forums, what we are trying to do is inform you of the information we are provided with. ccontinued attacks on the people trying to help will probably result in them stopping their efforts, and then you wold get nothing. TLDR We agree they need to post on the forums more, stop attacking us. maybe by attacking you CCP will try to protect there beloved IRCers and starts posting here JK
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.09.03 16:27:00 - [19] - Quote I'm sorry, but "meeting" on PlayStation Home is a horrible way to discuss, or review or even just meet up. I honestly think CCP just lost points with me. I honestly now take them a bit less seriously for this crap. Talk about arse backwards. IRC chat rooms, and meetings on PlayStation Hom?! Are you serious?.. Ugh! Talk about a group of people with the communication skills of a labotomite. I've seen gorrillas using sign language that have more communication skills then CCP. Epic fail! Seriously pissed off. Edit: We're not asking for much, but seriously they could have just posted this information here, or given us all a mass e-mail with this information. Seriously they have some weird, and twisted priorities.
a dirty Shisno Algintal Core Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2012.09.03 16:29:00 - [20] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: I'm sorry, but "meeting" on PlayStation Home is a horrible way to discuss, or review or even just meet up. I honestly think CCP just lost points with me. I honestly now take them a bit less seriously for this crap. Talk about arse backwards. IRC chat rooms, and meetings on PlayStation Hom?! Are you serious?.. Ugh! Talk about a group of people with the communication skills of a labotomite. I've seen gorrillas using sign language that have more communication skills then CCP. Epic fail! Seriously pissed off. Pssst! Read the rest of the thread.

Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.09.03 16:32:00 - [21] - Quote a dirty Shisno wrote: Rorek IronBlood wrote: I'm sorry, but "meeting" on PlayStation Home is a horrible way to discuss, or review or even just meet up. I honestly think CCP just lost points with me. I honestly now take them a bit less seriously for this crap. Talk about arse backwards. IRC chat rooms, and meetings on PlayStation Hom?! Are you serious?.. Ugh! Talk about a group of people with the communication skills of a labotomite. I've seen gorrillas using sign language that have more communication skills then CCP. Epic fail! Seriously pissed off. Pssst! Read the rest of the thread. Read it and I still stand by what I said. CCP is seriously in terms of communication the equivalent of Hellen Keller.
a dirty Shisno Algintal Core Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2012.09.03 16:34:00 - [22] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: a dirty Shisno wrote: Rorek IronBlood wrote: I'm sorry, but "meeting" on PlayStation Home is a horrible way to discuss, or review or even just meet up. I honestly think CCP just lost points with me. I honestly now take them a bit less seriously for this crap. Talk about arse backwards. IRC chat rooms, and meetings on PlayStation Hom?! Are you serious?.. Ugh! Talk about a group of people with the communication skills of a labotomite. I've seen gorrillas using sign language that have more communication skills then CCP. Epic fail! Seriously pissed off. Pssst! Read the rest of the thread. Read it and I still stand by what I said. CCP is seriously in terms of communication the equivalent of Hellen Keller. Okay. As long as you realize they don't host meetings in Home.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.09.03 16:38:00 - [23] - Quote They may not "host" them, but they still showed up, and provided more info there then they do here. Seriously by the time the information gets an official posting here on the forums we've had like six threads from people here in the community relaying the information back. It's sad to think how utterly inept they are at communicating. Infact it is downright attrocious. They need to up their game. Hellen Keller, is laughing at them.
a dirty Shisno Algintal Core Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2012.09.03 16:47:00 - [24] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: They may not "host" them, but they still showed up, and provided more info there then they do here. Seriously by the time the information gets an official posting here on the forums we've had like six threads from people here in the community relaying the information back. It's sad to think how utterly inept they are at communicating. Infact it is downright attrocious. They need to up their game. Hellen Keller, is laughing at them. Ugh. So you DIDN'T read the rest of the thread then. Why did you say you did? There was no meeting in Home. No one from CCP even dropped by for a match of Slay. The OP in this thread is a complete copy/paste job of Iron Wolf Saber's IRC thread, with any mention of IRC replaced with Home.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.09.03 16:50:00 - [25] - Quote ... Because, they still suck at communicating, and the community itself is better at communicating and relaying information then the people they actually pay to do so? Sadly. Edit: Just went through and read this crappy thread again, and still I relent to say that CCP needs to step up their communication skills. I really think the community itself and certain people -- individuals -- whom are willing to try to push CCP for information through horrible means are doing the best they can. CCP just needs to get on the ball when it comes to information. This is something a large majority of us have been complaining and ugring for months.
a dirty Shisno Algintal Core Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2012.09.03 16:52:00 - [26] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: ... Because, they still suck at communicating, and the community itself is better at communicating and relaying information then the people they actually pay to do so? Sadly. Yeah. Way to backpedal. Please just don't lie next time, and actually read through a thread and absorb the information within it before posting about it.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.09.03 16:54:00 - [27] - Quote a dirty Shisno wrote: Rorek IronBlood wrote: ... Because, they still suck at communicating, and the community itself is better at communicating and relaying information then the people they actually pay to do so? Sadly. Yeah. Way to backpedal. Please just don't lie next time, and actually read through a thread and absorb the information within it before posting about it. Dude.. I read twice now, and still IRC, or PlayStation Home does not matter. CCP sucks the proverbial big one when it comes to information. You need to understand what I am saying. Not the other way around.
a dirty Shisno Algintal Core Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2012.09.03 17:00:00 - [28] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: a dirty Shisno wrote: Rorek IronBlood wrote: ... Because, they still suck at communicating, and the community itself is better at communicating and relaying information then the people they actually pay to do so? Sadly. Yeah. Way to backpedal. Please just don't lie next time, and actually read through a thread and absorb the information within it before posting about it. Dude.. I read twice now, and still IRC, or PlayStation Home does not matter. CCP sucks the proverbial big one when it comes to information. You need to understand what I am saying. Not the other way around. Even if you did read it, you clearly didn't understand it. You continued on insisting that CCP had some sort of appearance in Home, when it had already been established that they hadn't. That is why I stated that you need to "read through a thread and absorb the information within it before posting about it." I do understand what it is you are saying and it is in fact you who needs to understand what it is I am saying.
Gridboss BetaMax. 185	Posted - 2012.09.03 17:07:00 - [29] - Quote This thread reminds me of the time I met GM Karidor in PS Home. He was bored and chilling there, I was bored so I joined him We both laughed at the guys trying to recruit on PS Home. No seriously, there was someone recruiting there. As most other people have pointed out, CCP doesn't make appearances on PS Home. It is just a straight copy/paste from one of Iron Wolf's threads labelled as having originated from PS Home.
Ignatius Crumwald Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 475	Posted - 2012.09.03 17:14:00 - [30] - Quote Y'all Minmatars postin' in a troll thread.



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