DUST Search - Unofficial September Release Thread

Skytt Syysch wrote:

xAckie wrote:

Needless Sacermendor wrote:

xAckie wrote:

Why would they remove the dumb fire mode for swarm launchers. Do CCP hate AV that much ?

Dumb fire swarm is NOT AV !! It's anti infantry. I use swarm SMG as my main fit and dumb fire is ineffective against any vehicle.

no its not. I blow up Lavs as they try and run me over or when close to a tank I can fire a swarm and throw av grenades - i dont have to waste time for lock on - and can quickly switch back to smg say. . Swarms havent been effective against infantry since 3 builds ago

its removal removes a useful aspect of the AV weapon - another nerf to AV ability.

Before you get too mad, there's talk of a dumbfire variant, just that the standard would be lock-only. I don't remember if that came from a dev's mouth, but I know it was brought up in direct reaction to hearing of that. Also, I think one of the devs said there'd be a swarm variant that locked onto infantry as well. I don't remember 100% that coming directly from them, but I'm pretty sure it was. Don't go asking where it is in the future "because they promised it" when all you have is me saying this right now, though. Blink

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Icy Tiger 496	Posted - 2012.09.02 15:10:00 - [1] - Quote In this thread, please post any and all info that is currently known about changes, additions, subtractions, and multiplications to be done by the release of the September release. Info can have any valid source, IRC, forums, Twitter, etc.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.09.02 15:14:00 - [2] - Quote IRC sourced HMG have been reworked entirely and will operate differently Swarm Launchers will lose dumbfire mode most likely More Skill Book changes. Laser Rifles possibly Antimaterial Rifle possibly Webifier Mines Mismia Grenades Flux Grenades get fixed and will no longer kill infantry Mass Drivers tweaked New reactive Hit Detection system that autoadust for compression lag and various other factors. More buildings. More ladders. Scrapping a possibility more variants of guns additional electronic warfare. Price adjustments. Females possibly
Icy Tiger 496	Posted - 2012.09.02 17:27:00 - [3] - Quote Thanks Iron.
4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 649	Posted - 2012.09.02 17:47:00 - [4] - Quote we getting a september update?
Patches The Hyena 204	Posted - 2012.09.02 17:55:00 - [5] - Quote Unofficial word from a Dev in IRC is the next build hits late Sept.
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.09.02 17:59:00 - [6] - Quote 4447 wrote: we getting a september update? + when. I can't wait to see what you pulled off with HMG. If it's anything like the balance patch we have now i'll delete and wait for release day. No one expects you to get it right the first time but you don't have to be shirlock holmes to see what this patch was going to be like before you released it. And thanks Iron Wolf Saber if it wen'nt for you, us here on the official forums would be in the dark. Not all people on IRC are asshats just quite a lot of them. i wouldnt mind the logs of the parts where they "voiced their feelings" about the isk reward not being high enough if you have them. post them here in the forums. thanks patches. massive lag due to dl a 4 gb patch on a slow connection. cya late sept then.
Aile Striker Ghost Wolf Industries 0	Posted - 2012.09.02 18:08:00 - [7] - Quote An update for the game would be nice
Sees-Too-Much 332	Posted - 2012.09.02 18:09:00 - [8] - Quote Any word on if this will come with a wipe?
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.09.02 18:10:00 - [9] - Quote Aile Striker wrote: An update for the game would be nice what like the one they got moaning at something that wasn't broken in the first place? LOL
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 125	Posted - 2012.09.02 18:34:00 - [10] - Quote Why would they remove the dumb fire mode for swarm launchers. Do CCP hate AV that much ?

Needless Sacermendor 98	Posted - 2012.09.02 19:00:00 - [11] - Quote xAckie wrote: Why would they remove the dumb fire mode for swarm launchers. Do CCP hate AV that much ? Dumb fire swarm is NOT AV !! It's anti infantry. I use swarm SMG as my main fit and dumb fire is ineffective against any vehicle.
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 125	Posted - 2012.09.02 19:25:00 - [12] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: xAckie wrote: Why would they remove the dumb fire mode for swarm launchers. Do CCP hate AV that much ? Dumb fire swarm is NOT AV !! It's anti infantry. I use swarm SMG as my main fit and dumb fire is ineffective against any vehicle. no its not. I blow up Lavs as they try and run me over or when close to a tank I can fire a swarm and throw av grenades - i dont have to waste time for lock on - and can quickly switch back to smg say. . Swarms havent been effective against infantry since 3 builds ago its removal removes a useful aspect of the AV weapon - another nerf to AV ability.
a dirty Shisno Algintal Core Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2012.09.02 19:31:00 - [13] - Quote xAckie wrote: Needless Sacermendor wrote: xAckie wrote: Why would they remove the dumb fire mode for swarm launchers. Do CCP hate AV that much ? Dumb fire swarm is NOT AV !! It's anti infantry. I use swarm SMG as my main fit and dumb fire is ineffective against any vehicle. no its not. I blow up Lavs as they try and run me over or when close to a tank I can fire a swarm and throw av grenades - i dont have to waste time for lock on - and can quickly switch back to smg say. . Swarms havent been effective against infantry since 3 builds ago its removal removes a useful aspect of the AV weapon. I've noticed that when a nearby tank has figured out where I am, it often rolls right up to me in an effort to make an easy lock on nearly impossible. My only hope of getting in just one more shot before I die is to dumbfire at it, since it's really almost impossible to miss when it's bumper is rubbing against your nose.
arimal lavaren L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 186	Posted - 2012.09.02 19:34:00 - [14] - Quote lol, go ahead shoot me with those swarms, while I merrily dance between them and show you the business end of my AR. Anyway why would dumb fire be removed to make it like a charge weapon? I can't see the rationale for removing the ability to just pull a trigger.
Gilbatron Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda 81	Posted - 2012.09.02 19:39:00 - [15] - Quote Mismia grenades ?
Kyy Seiska Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 188	Posted - 2012.09.02 19:40:00 - [16] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: More ladders. My suggestion actually went trough o// probably wasn't the only one but still.
Skytt Syysch Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 235	Posted - 2012.09.02 19:40:00 - [17] - Quote xAckie wrote: Needless Sacermendor wrote: xAckie wrote: Why would they remove the dumb fire mode for swarm launchers. Do CCP hate AV that much ? Dumb fire swarm is NOT AV !! It's anti infantry. I use swarm SMG as my main fit and dumb fire is ineffective against any vehicle. no its not. I blow up Lavs as they try and run me over or when close to a tank I can fire a swarm and throw av grenades - i dont have to waste time for lock on - and can quickly switch back to smg say. . Swarms havent been effective against infantry since 3 builds ago its removal removes a useful aspect of the AV weapon - another nerf to AV ability. Before you get too mad, there's talk of a dumbfire variant, just that the standard would be lock-only. I don't remember if that came from a dev's mouth, but I know it was brought up in direct reaction to hearing of that. Also, I think one of the devs said there'd be a swarm variant that locked onto infantry as well. I don't remember 100% that coming directly from them, but I'm pretty sure it was. Don't go asking where it is in the future "because they promised it" when all you have is me saying this right now, though.
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 125	Posted - 2012.09.02 19:44:00 - [18] - Quote Skytt Syysch wrote: xAckie wrote: Needless Sacermendor wrote: xAckie wrote: Why would they remove the dumb fire mode for swarm launchers. Do CCP hate AV that much ? Dumb fire swarm is NOT AV !! It's anti infantry. I use swarm SMG as my main fit and dumb fire is ineffective against any vehicle. no its not. I blow up Lavs as they try and run me over or when close to a tank I can fire a swarm and throw av grenades - i dont have to waste time for lock on - and can quickly switch back to smg say. . Swarms havent been effective against infantry since 3 builds ago its removal removes a useful aspect of the AV weapon - another nerf to AV ability. Before you get too mad, there's talk of a dumbfire variant, just that the standard would be lock-only. I don't remember if that came from a dev's mouth, but I know it was brought up in direct reaction to hearing of that. Also, I think one of the devs said there'd be a swarm variant that locked onto infantry as well. I don't remember 100% that coming directly from them, but I'm pretty sure it was. Don't go asking where it is in the future "because they promised it" when all you have is me saying this right now, though. thanks for info... ok lads you can put the pitch forks down now....
NEGA LEAVESEY Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 24	Posted - 2012.09.02 20:08:00 - [19] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: xAckie wrote: Why would they remove the dumb fire mode for swarm launchers. Do CCP hate AV that much ? Dumb fire swarm is NOT AV !! It's anti infantry. I use swarm SMG as my main fit and dumb fire is ineffective against any vehicle. So, so wrong. EDIT just read rest of posts. Veins in forehead subsiding. No way am I speccing AV again in any case.
4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 649	Posted - 2012.09.03 21:31:00 - [20] - Quote big update 3.0 or small update 2.1?

crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.09.03 21:34:00 - [21] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: xAckie wrote: Why would they remove the dumb fire mode for swarm launchers. Do CCP hate AV that much ? Dumb fire swarm is NOT AV !! It's anti infantry. I use swarm SMG as my main fit and dumb fire is ineffective against any vehicle. it's also ineffective when trying to kill people too. Why not let it lock on to dropsuits? just have it only deal splash and be avoidable by running behind a wall.They were lol anti-dropsuits in the very 1st build. but now you've got new people running around with a useless weapon "{
D3LTA NORMANDY Doomheim 101	Posted - 2012.09.03 21:35:00 - [22] - Quote 4447 wrote: big update 3.0 or small update 2.1? I guess it will be a big including a reset.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.09.03 21:36:00 - [23] - Quote arimal lavaren wrote: lol, go ahead shoot me with those swarms, while I merrily dance between them and show you the business end of my AR. Anyway why would dumb fire be removed to make it like a charge weapon? I can't see the rationale for removing the ability to just pull a trigger. I think this is related to an intention to raise its damage stats back up, which were also nerfed after Replication.
Shiro Mokuzan 220	Posted - 2012.09.03 22:22:00 - [24] - Quote Gilbatron wrote: Mismia grenades ? Futuristic smoke grenades.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.09.03 22:27:00 - [25] - Quote Cpl Quartz wrote: 4447 wrote: we getting a september update? + when. I can't wait to see what you pulled off with HMG. If it's anything like the balance patch we have now i'll delete and wait for release day. No one expects you to get it right the first time but you don't have to be shirlock holmes to see what this patch was going to be like before you released it. And thanks Iron Wolf Saber if it wen'nt for you, us here on the official forums would be in the dark. Not all people on IRC are asshats just quite a lot of them. i wouldnt mind the logs of the parts where they "voiced their feelings" about the isk reward not being high enough if you have them. post them here in the forums. thanks patches. massive lag due to dl a 4 gb patch on a slow connection. cya late sept then. That was deleted and for various reasons I have to agree as the original subject was around a much more hot button topic.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.09.03 22:33:00 - [26] - Quote Hey Icy mind updating the OP? Anyways. New Awards system to count time on field and award even if kicked/disconnected
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.09.03 22:44:00 - [27] - Quote Sweet. I can't wait to get myself some EWAR.


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