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Skytt Syysch
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.01 08:20:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
For example I think the thing about a laser war hammer was a joke.
They also said I would be getting an invincible tank and a BPO grenade that would kill everyone on the map by next week. I'm pretty sure they were serious about those, though.
KingBlade82 wrote:i still see it as a special club and dont see why the players have to post it on here or wed never hear it from them (until official build notes that is)
It really isn't. You're welcome to join. The thing is, it got overwhelming with just a small number of us asking questions to the point of the channel having to be muted so things could be more organized. We're also the people who frequent the forums, whether we contribute or not, we're collectively reading probably as much as the devs are, and know the questions everyone here is asking and can represent the concerns of everyone on the forums by using a few people.
It'd just go to hell if they tried to do something similar here. There'd be way too much noise for them to be able to parse all the questions and they'd have no time to answer any of it. Evidence: It was getting that way with just 10-20 of us being active in IRC, imagine dozens more here. And, honestly, it's a more mature environment for the most part where people will take questions seriously and provide honest, thoughtful feedback, rather than a lot of the bickering and trolling you see here (that's not to say everyone acts that way here, but the obnoxious minority would clutter up a Q&A kind of thread and it'd get derailed with side discussions and repeated questions).
It's not like this is an everyday thing, either. Just every once in a while they pile in at the same time to answer some questions when they can, see where the community stands on the more major issues, and we generally give the forum consensus and our personal opinions. A lot of times we're just reminding them of issues or pointing them to specific threads we want to keep their attention on. |
Skytt Syysch
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
235
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Posted - 2012.09.01 08:33:00 -
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Jimbeezy wrote:Weakspots on buildings?
I brought up that the CRU had areas of differing efficiency ratings for some reason, they're looking into it.
Templar Two wrote:Listening/talking to 10-20 pole instead then 200 or 2k is the reason why the FPS players here all disappointed by Dust and why the gameplay/shooting is not good.
What are we here for then?
I was told that CCP was reading here but it's clear that IRC comes first.
They're not only listening to us. Our voices aren't shaping how the game is getting designed any more than yours are. They read every post on the forums. But, we've been able to have the opportunity to get some direct answers and provide feedback. You would get the same result with creating your own bug or feedback thread, we just get human interaction and an opportunity to clarify right away if they go "wait, what?" |
Skytt Syysch
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.01 08:42:00 -
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Leviticus Krauthammer wrote:Jimbeezy wrote:Weakspots on buildings? I thought that sounded odd also.
Instead of editing my post for clarification, I'll just add it here. I targeted a CRU earlier with my large missile turret, and on the center body portion had 99% efficiency rating, and on the corner "legs" of it, it was saying 129% efficiency. That's what that question was about, they thought maybe it was assigned a different material or something for the different parts, or something else was wonky. |
Skytt Syysch
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
235
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Posted - 2012.09.01 08:57:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:I proposed/asked CCP to make survey & polls to get specific feedback on a large scale.
That, combined with the forums would have sufficed to get the feedback they needed.
Yours are all excuses.
Ways to get us all involved exist and are are far from chaotic.
Well, the forums don't support polls from what I can see, unless you want them to post em somewhere else (they emailed one out recently didn't they?). Either way, having to create polls per issue takes up resources. I think it's in one or many of their job descriptions to read every post on the forums, so they already get the feedback there.
I'm not saying polls and surveys wouldn't work, I'm just saying they'd be additional work. They may also not be able to provide the kind of feedback they want on certain issues, and if you leave answers as open-ended fill-in text fields, that's more manual data crunching that has to be done.
I would like to see surveys, don't get me wrong. But it's not like the discussion we had with them was us providing more than you can in the currently available means. It was much more asking questions and getting answers or clarification than giving feedback. Usually "feedback" was along the lines of "are we gonna get skills that do more things than simply unlock items?" yeah we should have some more of that in the next build "cool, I think something like this kind of skill bonus would be neat to see." It's not largely in-depth "you need to make X happen this way, and only listen to me and ignore the forums" kind of thing. |
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