Dude, the proto assault forge does 1135 direct damage.... Really? For 11k I'm doing like 500 damage on a well fit sagaris - and it's probably repping?


I just vomited a little.

Proto does not cost 11k, tank will prob OHK you unless your suit is tanked up to the hilt but then again anyone on the ground would occupy you enough

Do people use anything but the breach forge?

Nah would be easier if everyone skilled into tanks instead and break the game

C'mon, in no way is AV more expensive iskwise than the tank profession. That's coming from a rabid AV fan with not a single SP in vehicles in this build.

my AV fit in a dragonfly scout suit costs 50K, never died 3 times in same match in it , but tbh if I did I wouldn't spawn again in it - I'd switch to a subprime fit and I suspect most AV players would operate in the same vein.

I can't attest for the average lifespan of a tank but I doubt it's over 10 matches - yes, I know the better players will last much longer but fair play to them if that's the case.


So, if I field 3 of my AV fits in 10 matches in a row that would cost 1.5m isk. Not that I would but for the purposes of the post....

A decent tank has got to cost, what, 2mil ish ?

We AV just need to group up in larger numbers - My last match tonight, I partnered with A N Other AV guy - layed down all my advanced SL ammo and advanced AV grenades on a madragar, using up 2 nanohives in the process. Most of my shots hit, I did not die once - He was pretty poor admittidly - Think we got him down to 1/3 armor twice during the match. It's gonna take more manpower now more than ever.

Take into account tho that the tank may cost 2mil for 10games using your example but it could easily make 2mil in them 10games and also collect some useful salavage and earn more SP as a consequnce for winning the game and destroying everyone

Now, i dont mean to be rude as i dont know your AV fit, but at 50k each , that isnt really a "good" fit. A good fit, would be using adv DS at least, and a adv/proto swarm & smg, along w/ mods. That is a "good" fit that ud need to compare to a good tank. With that u can assume the same 3 deaths if u want, and that will be costing u close to 250k per game, and if do that 10 games ina row.. yeah being a good AV fit can definitely be WAY more costly then a AV assuming it survives 10 game like in yout example

Armor plate slows you down, its a skin suit anyways so whack on a damage mod instead for the SL and just go for full gank

Dragonfly Scout suit
Basic Shield Extender
Milita Armor Plate
Biotics
Advanced Launcher, 1st one on market
Advanced SMG Breach one, used to be minddrive.
Advanced AV grenade
Militia Nanohive.

I keep the shield extender as opposed to weapon modifier as I treat the AV side of it as situational even though I field one as soon as I see enemy vehicles on the map. I consider that fit fairly good and better than most randoms on the field considering I'm just breaking 4m SP. That advanced dropsuit doesn't look that good these days anyway so I'll not be going that route until we can sell salvage or transfer isk.

Ah, thought we were talking scout suits. Thats a better fit for damage and survivability if you discount the speed tank, oh and a few million sp down the line too, thanks to x4 SP speed last build. Lets play fair it's only been 2 weeks

Maybe it's like when people burn something for insurance......... Is that what's going on CCP ? are you trying to maake this fail on purpose ?

I am serious btw, not trolling, because if you don't want more than a few hundred playing you're right on track.

With the forge gun range nerfed and the swarms locking like kittens after catnip this build made AV very hard, saving grace was the AV nade...still harder this build then last.

Then they nerf it even more...I am very confused to their motivation.