Some people aren't cut out for FPS games.

Remember that dust is unlike the marjoity of FPS out there. The team oriented aspect has probably turned away alot of testers by now just because they dont want to play as a team. They just want to kill stuff and that is it. I suggest you find some people who are willing to work as a team and play with them regularlly.

I think its a general thing. Lots of people non-com`ed and ignoring roles/objectives. Once the game releases and things get serious I hope/think it will change.

I think its a general thing. Lots of people non-com`ed and ignoring roles/objectives. Once the game releases and things get serious I hope/think it will change.

How many equipment slots do the basic Logi suits get?

[quote=Obama DAT]Some people aren't cut out for FPS games.

What have I done to upset you Veigar Mordekaiser?

Complaining on a Dust 514 forum about how bad things are LOL. Guess you're doing alright, got enough time to play video games.

I'm neither a troll or baiter. The gentleman Mordekaiser made a condesending remark and I merely responded. I have no desire to discuss politics here either as it's a fruitless endevour.

Can we keep American politics out from a futuristic military shooter game? It goes without saying, but I doubt that he is the ACTUAL obama, just a troll or a baiter. On topic, it's funny, when the new build came out, people were complaining about too many logis, now we have too many ineffective logis, and it hurts. Playing with some corp mates with a dedicated EMS logi, our squad hold hold an objective by ourselves for 3/4 of the round. It took always take an all out assault to dig us out. Fun times

no its not, you get lockfruit. lots of lockfruit. To bad too a thread like this might just help some logis notice their roles. Logis seem to have a future of usefullness.

I just went down, in a group of 10 allies, 3 of whom were logistics, and not one of them even tried to revive me. They weren't even putting down hives. WTF guys? The entire point of playing LogiBro, is to support your team, and if you aren't doing that, just play assault! It is so annoying to have a bunch of people running around with no mics, and no desire to play their role.

Atleast you tank/dropship pilots are doing it right. 2 or 3 of you on a team and you pull off an easy win.

Yea, logistics players are retards. I play logistics and I'm always the only one who rezzes people.

Rezzing teammates, the curiously effective way to win games.

I just went down, in a group of 10 allies, 3 of whom were logistics, and not one of them even tried to revive me. They weren't even putting down hives. WTF guys? The entire point of playing LogiBro, is to support your team, and if you aren't doing that, just play assault! It is so annoying to have a bunch of people running around with no mics, and no desire to play their role.

I don't really have any friends, so it's tough to scrape a team together.

Edit: Well, of the ones I do have, none of them play PS3 I should say.

I think someone was complaining about going like 30 to 0 and getting little sp. Its because he did not participate or contribute to the team effort.

I'll be your DUST friend.

I just went down, in a group of 10 allies, 3 of whom were logistics, and not one of them even tried to revive me. They weren't even putting down hives. WTF guys? The entire point of playing LogiBro, is to support your team, and if you aren't doing that, just play assault! It is so annoying to have a bunch of people running around with no mics, and no desire to play their role.

Atleast you tank/dropship pilots are doing it right. 2 or 3 of you on a team and you pull off an easy win.

I just went down, in a group of 10 allies, 3 of whom were logistics, and not one of them even tried to revive me. They weren't even putting down hives. WTF guys? The entire point of playing LogiBro, is to support your team, and if you aren't doing that, just play assault! It is so annoying to have a bunch of people running around with no mics, and no desire to play their role.

Atleast you tank/dropship pilots are doing it right. 2 or 3 of you on a team and you pull off an easy win.

People need to stop running away from me and charging into battle with 10% armor then dying out in the open with enemies all around and expecting a revive. In that situation, I say "nope" and try to stay alive because I can't support my team if I'm dead.

Also keep in mind that just because someone is playing logistics, it doesn't mean they have an injector. They may have other support tools. Militia suits only have 2 equipment slots and most of the rest have 3. There are enough ways to support your team so that a logistics player might specialize in one other than triage.

Also remember that anyone can carry an injector, and I think it's a good idea for assaults or scouts to have them. If a logistics guy dies, and you can revive him, then he can repair everyone and provide support. Injectors are very important. How often have you been the last survivor in a group after a battle? If you can revive another player with an injector, you can get a whole squad back on their feet in no time. Reviving shouldn't be solely the logistics guy's responsibility. Remember that the same skill is used for nanohives and nanite injectors, so if you can use one, you can use the other.

Part of the problem is the stupid K/D ratio displayed everywhere. This makes certain people play in a way that maximizes kills while ignoring teamwork. "After all", the average K/D ***** thinks, "why carry gear that doesn't help me get kills?"

I think a lot of it could be new players using the logistics starter fit that has the nanite injector, and then not knowing how to use it.

Main reasons for NOT getting revived even though you have a Logistics suit in your team:

6. Your marker is on a slope and can't be properly clicked.

Important injector tip here kids. You need to hit the spot the blue went down, not the body. Many times they are the same place, but not always.

An example is a sniper crouched on/behind a small hill. He goes down, and then slides a bit. You have to search about a bit to find the sweet spot for the injector. Gets easier with practice. This will probably change in the future as well, and be tied to the body more accurately.

Hence the reason I carry milita injectors on almost all my builds... so no matter what load out I choose, I can revive someone.

For sure though, they need bigger hit targets for the injectors, I hate searching around for it when it's not on the fallen body.

I have been playing fulltime logi this patch and have a few observations for you all.

• Bleedout timer doesn't last very long, and your respawn timer is shortened by the amount of time you spend in bleedout.
Give the logibros the time to get to you if they can.


• Reds. If your surrounded and we are not already in a major push in your direction I probably can't solo hero my way to you.


• Reps. Once you get rezzed get to cover, preferable with your logibro, who will be applying reps if he has that gear fit.


• Carry injectors, and learn to use them. Assault and Scout suits and work great with injectors. Don't worry about carrying nanohives, carry injectors. Rez me, I have nanohives. The SP payout for a successful rez is pretty damn good. A few guys with injectors can make a huge difference. Carrying injectors also gives you the icons for blues who went down. This can be a tremendous asset for situational awareness.


• Triage. Sometimes you losers are dying all over the place and I have to pick a direction. I will attempt to make the save I think I can, and let the guys who got overrun bleed out.


• Stick together, this greatly enhances the chances for me to get to you in time.

I'm a scout and I used to run with the revive thing until recently I use uplinks.

Although it's important to revive your comrades it is also a pain to do. You have to find the location of where that player died and move in circles until the R1 button appears. Not only that, but it can be quite annoying to operate the weapon wheel.

Why can't we just be able to revive people without having to pull out the injector?

I just went down, in a group of 10 allies, 3 of whom were logistics, and not one of them even tried to revive me. They weren't even putting down hives. WTF guys? The entire point of playing LogiBro, is to support your team, and if you aren't doing that, just play assault! It is so annoying to have a bunch of people running around with no mics, and no desire to play their role.

I know not all Logi's are triage, but I often see the "triage unit nearby" text and see a Logi run by me off to nowhere. It's just a bit frustrating. I myself have been doing quite the large amount of rezzing since then, and I find it very rewarding, +50 for kills, and +60 for rezzing? Yes please!

How many equipment slots do the basic Logi suits get?

I may be wrong, but I think it's already higher than 60 (maybe 90 or 100) for reviving

I'm a scout and I used to run with the revive thing until recently I use uplinks.

Although it's important to revive your comrades it is also a pain to do. You have to find the location of where that player died and move in circles until the R1 button appears. Not only that, but it can be quite annoying to operate the weapon wheel.

Why can't we just be able to revive people without having to pull out the injector?