I would much rather see someone I know I can work with to get an objective on my team then some leet KDR arrogant as F*** punk who thinks hes the almighty's gift to Dust514 because he can contribute nothing to squad efforts, play's it safe the entire match, and makes sure he saves his precious clone long enough to kill a few noobs. KDR mentality is stupid. It's not a reflection of a person ability or lack there of to play the game. Maybe if this were all about 1 on 1 fights you could make that argument but in the end a person who is on a squad with a 0.3 KDR that is willing to listen to squad leader and even act as a diversion or do whats dangerous to help the squad is 1000x more useful then some 20.0 KDR person who just hides from everyone and only takes the safe kills to save his precious KDR.

Except the problem with your thinking is that a lot of us are right there on the front lines, tearing it up, making sure you guys that aren't as good aren't dieing, so that way you can still contribute.

You guys act like people with good KDRs don't know how to cap objectives or listen to orders....

People with good KDR's can cap objectives and listen to orders. People who are fixated on their KDR are a different story.

I still fail to see what this has to do with letting us know when we just tore the enemy a new one >_< I think we're overcomplicating things here lol

I would much rather see someone I know I can work with to get an objective on my team then some leet KDR arrogant as F*** punk who thinks hes the almighty's gift to Dust514 because he can contribute nothing to squad efforts, play's it safe the entire match, and makes sure he saves his precious clone long enough to kill a few noobs. KDR mentality is stupid. It's not a reflection of a person ability or lack there of to play the game. Maybe if this were all about 1 on 1 fights you could make that argument but in the end a person who is on a squad with a 0.3 KDR that is willing to listen to squad leader and even act as a diversion or do whats dangerous to help the squad is 1000x more useful then some 20.0 KDR person who just hides from everyone and only takes the safe kills to save his precious KDR.

Sounds like you're talking about people like snipers who hide up in the hills and only get kills. I'm talking about the players who get right in the middle of the action and can clear out a squad. Just because some puts up a ton of kills it doesn't mean they aren't attacking objectives. The way the actual elite players play is by going to an objective that the other team has taking and killing all the enemy players that come around, then going to team objective that are getting attacked and defending them.

Just because some players can't get a lot of kills while near objectives that doesn't mean that others can't so stop generalizing. There is a reason that I had the most War points last build as an assault specialist and most of the other people near the top were tank specialists.

Reason you had most war points...You cheated?

Actually because I hacked objectives, destroyed vehicles, destroyed installations, and got tons of kills and assists, and knew how to use squad leader commands.

This is exactly the mentality I disdain. I was because I, I, I, I. I want more focus on teams in this game and less focus on the 'I's. Hopefully implementation of merc corps will help with this but I fear some people are beyond help.

This is exactly the mentality I disdain. I was because I, I, I, I. I want more focus on teams in this game and less focus on the 'I's. Hopefully implementation of merc corps will help with this but I fear some people are beyond help.

I guess you didn't realize I was in the largest corp currently in the beta and am always working with a squad of fellow STB.

Yet your focus remains intently on the success of your character. Why should the success of your individual character even be a consideration in a squad based game? It's the combined efforts of the team that make everything an individual does possible so why give the individual false recognition? Your corp, or your squad (which you are a part of) deserve that top spot. Not just you. Win as a team, Lose as a team. If you want to claim otherwise, then your a lone-wolf and should not be in a squad, and in my opinion are detrimental to the Dust514 gameplay as a whole.

How so... does capping objectives, destroying enemy vehicles/equipment, and killing the enemy not help the team?

You can't possibly be that stupid.....can you?

If I capture an objective, then I defend said objective by killing several opponents trying to take, then I revive a couple teammates near the objective, I did a lot to help my team. Chances are, if carlos does the same thing at an adjacent letter, we'll win.

What clowns like you don't get, is that there is a difference between a KDR-obsessed idiot, who farms nubs off in the corner of a map, and someone who happens to be good at killing, who is in the middle of the action, capping objectives, reviving teammates, AND killing enemies.

I don't see why we couldn't have both? I'm all for adding stuff for the guys who are capping objectives and following orders and stuff, but also putting things in for kills could only help.

Yea, I think we should have both ^_^