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STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.29 14:49:00 -
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This is an FPS so kills and deaths DO matter. Yes I understand that this isn't a typical FPS and its connected with "The Almighty EVE Universe"  but its still an FPS. Teamwork is important but don't tell me when you see a well known elite killer on your team as opposed to the enemy side that you're not a little happy. If KDR doesn't matter then we should just take away guns and weapons and deaths and just run around capping objectives. For those that aren't elite killers there are other roles available, but get real this is still somewhat an FPS so KDR has at least a little relevant. |
STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.08.29 17:24:00 -
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Goliath Raven wrote:STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:This is an FPS so kills and deaths DO matter. Yes I understand that this isn't a typical FPS and its connected with "The Almighty EVE Universe" but its still an FPS. Teamwork is important but don't tell me when you see a well known elite killer on your team as opposed to the enemy side that you're not a little happy. If KDR doesn't matter then we should just take away guns and weapons and deaths and just run around capping objectives. For those that aren't elite killers there are other roles available, but get real this is still somewhat an FPS so KDR has at least a little relevant. I would much rather see someone I know I can work with to get an objective on my team then some leet KDR arrogant as F*** punk who thinks hes the almighty's gift to Dust514 because he can contribute nothing to squad efforts, play's it safe the entire match, and makes sure he saves his precious clone long enough to kill a few noobs. KDR mentality is stupid. It's not a reflection of a person ability or lack there of to play the game. Maybe if this were all about 1 on 1 fights you could make that argument but in the end a person who is on a squad with a 0.3 KDR that is willing to listen to squad leader and even act as a diversion or do whats dangerous to help the squad is 1000x more useful then some 20.0 KDR person who just hides from everyone and only takes the safe kills to save his precious KDR.
Sounds like you're talking about people like snipers who hide up in the hills and only get kills. I'm talking about the players who get right in the middle of the action and can clear out a squad. Just because some puts up a ton of kills it doesn't mean they aren't attacking objectives. The way the actual elite players play is by going to an objective that the other team has taking and killing all the enemy players that come around, then going to team objective that are getting attacked and defending them.
Just because some players can't get a lot of kills while near objectives that doesn't mean that others can't so stop generalizing. There is a reason that I had the most War points last build as an assault specialist and most of the other people near the top were tank specialists. |
STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.08.29 17:59:00 -
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mikegunnz wrote:STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:Goliath Raven wrote:STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:This is an FPS so kills and deaths DO matter. Yes I understand that this isn't a typical FPS and its connected with "The Almighty EVE Universe" but its still an FPS. Teamwork is important but don't tell me when you see a well known elite killer on your team as opposed to the enemy side that you're not a little happy. If KDR doesn't matter then we should just take away guns and weapons and deaths and just run around capping objectives. For those that aren't elite killers there are other roles available, but get real this is still somewhat an FPS so KDR has at least a little relevant. I would much rather see someone I know I can work with to get an objective on my team then some leet KDR arrogant as F*** punk who thinks hes the almighty's gift to Dust514 because he can contribute nothing to squad efforts, play's it safe the entire match, and makes sure he saves his precious clone long enough to kill a few noobs. KDR mentality is stupid. It's not a reflection of a person ability or lack there of to play the game. Maybe if this were all about 1 on 1 fights you could make that argument but in the end a person who is on a squad with a 0.3 KDR that is willing to listen to squad leader and even act as a diversion or do whats dangerous to help the squad is 1000x more useful then some 20.0 KDR person who just hides from everyone and only takes the safe kills to save his precious KDR. Sounds like you're talking about people like snipers who hide up in the hills and only get kills. I'm talking about the players who get right in the middle of the action and can clear out a squad. Just because some puts up a ton of kills it doesn't mean they aren't attacking objectives. The way the actual elite players play is by going to an objective that the other team has taking and killing all the enemy players that come around, then going to team objective that are getting attacked and defending them. Just because some players can't get a lot of kills while near objectives that doesn't mean that others can't so stop generalizing. There is a reason that I had the most War points last build as an assault specialist and most of the other people near the top were tank specialists. Reason you had most war points...You cheated?
Actually because I hacked objectives, destroyed vehicles, destroyed installations, and got tons of kills and assists, and knew how to use squad leader commands. |
STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.08.29 18:35:00 -
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Goliath Raven wrote:STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:
Actually because I hacked objectives, destroyed vehicles, destroyed installations, and got tons of kills and assists, and knew how to use squad leader commands.
This is exactly the mentality I disdain. I was because I, I, I, I. I want more focus on teams in this game and less focus on the 'I's. Hopefully implementation of merc corps will help with this but I fear some people are beyond help.
I guess you didn't realize I was in the largest corp currently in the beta and am always working with a squad of fellow STB. |
STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.08.29 19:19:00 -
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Goliath Raven wrote:STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:Goliath Raven wrote:STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:
Actually because I hacked objectives, destroyed vehicles, destroyed installations, and got tons of kills and assists, and knew how to use squad leader commands.
This is exactly the mentality I disdain. I was because I, I, I, I. I want more focus on teams in this game and less focus on the 'I's. Hopefully implementation of merc corps will help with this but I fear some people are beyond help. I guess you didn't realize I was in the largest corp currently in the beta and am always working with a squad of fellow STB. Yet your focus remains intently on the success of your character. Why should the success of your individual character even be a consideration in a squad based game? It's the combined efforts of the team that make everything an individual does possible so why give the individual false recognition? Your corp, or your squad (which you are a part of) deserve that top spot. Not just you. Win as a team, Lose as a team. If you want to claim otherwise, then your a lone-wolf and should not be in a squad, and in my opinion are detrimental to the Dust514 gameplay as a whole.
How so... does capping objectives, destroying enemy vehicles/equipment, and killing the enemy not help the team? |
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