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Omera Trenaric
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:03:00 -
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Ok, first off I'm a FPS player, once I heard of Dust I was really excited, this game has a lot of potential, that being said, this game is horrible.
The maps are just open areas of nothing, they are bland and boring, offer no realistic structures or buildings to take advantage of.
Graphics are horrible but I put that aside because it's in beta.
Vehicle controls are a joke, if I'm driving give me R2 as the accelerator, don't bind steering, breaks, and acceleration bound to one stick.
Game constantly crashes.
I fail to see the structure of this game, Dust players are supposed to be thrown into an already populated and functioning society, but every time I pick up the controller and start playing it feels like I'm just playing a cheap FPS. You join a game finish and go back to your Quarters, repeat.
The upgrades and skills system need to be scaled back or simplified, as a FPS player I don't need to sit around and figure out all this extra crap with stats and 5 pages of useless information for each item. Make it simpler, it can be done and should be done.
When you walk why does it seem your trudging threw wet sand..
Hit detection is horrible, I popped off a clip from my pistol right into this guys chest, nothing, so, weapon balance and hit detection need an overhaul.
Oh and let us not forget, the marketplace, you can either work for your upgrades or pay for them, turning this game *like so many others* into rich vs poor. Are we so lazy people can't work for their I game upgrades?
Bottom line, thus game seems to be a Starhawks ripoff, it doesn't appeal to true FPS fans. In fine tuning this game the craters need to keep in mind that this game is a FPS game not an MMORPG, although they are somehow connected... Meh, it's a shooter game, treat it as such. I'll be back in a week to see if there are anymore patches, only time will tell if this game is thrown on top of the "Cheap First Person Sooter" bargain bin. |
Omnipotent lilmamaj
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:04:00 -
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Agree 100% |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:08:00 -
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Next build is around the corner I've been told. There are alot of background work going on such as today they just turned on access eve online side to our servers.
There are plenty of bugs that making it hard to test and they're all being worked on when and where possible.
As for your social strucutre thats your fault, go join a corp get into thier ingame channel chat it up and squad up. |
Cyris Fortune
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:09:00 -
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Opinions are like arse holes .... Everyone has one and they are usually full of crap.
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Thick McRun Fast
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:13:00 -
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Don't let the door hit you where the good Armarrian lord split you. |
Zen Nar
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:14:00 -
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I was in the Beta before this E3 Build and I didn't think the game was viable, but the E3 build was a huge improvement.
I'd be very happy if they launched with this build, but I'm guessing they will still be upgrading and tweaking the entire game before release. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:15:00 -
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PS can i have your stuff? |
Shiro Mokuzan
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:16:00 -
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EVE is not for everyone and neither is DUST. It sounds like DUST is not for you.
The only part I agree with is the driving controls. |
Shiro Mokuzan
220
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:17:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:can i have your stuff?
This is the first time I've seen this glorious question asked in DUST, so +1 like for that.
However, you can't transfer stuff yet.  |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:17:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:You can't make a judgement about a game that isn't out yet. I don't like Precursor, I'm not enjoying it nearly as much as I was enjoying E3, but I'm not about to say Dust is bad. Saying Dust is bad now, would be like playing Starcraft: Brood War 8 years ago and saying "Man, Starcraft 2 really sucks!".
Wouldn't let me link the thread, so I brought the thread to you. Quoted from "-This is important-" |
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Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:18:00 -
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Shiro Mokuzan wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:can i have your stuff? This is the first time I've seen this glorious question asked in DUST, so +1 like for that. However, you can't transfer stuff yet.
Are you kidding me? It was said all over the place for a while. You new? |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:19:00 -
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Omera Trenaric wrote:Ok, first off I'm a FPS player,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUWEMKDmAUc&feature=fvwrel |
Shiro Mokuzan
220
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:20:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Shiro Mokuzan wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:can i have your stuff? This is the first time I've seen this glorious question asked in DUST, so +1 like for that. However, you can't transfer stuff yet. Are you kidding me? It was said all over the place for a while. You new?
I've been in the beta about a month now, so newer than some. |
EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
168
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:20:00 -
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never thought i would agree with lilmamaj. and to all those who say get out , bye ,can i have your stuff..look at the big picture kiddo's enough people leave and it will be the same 15 fanboys playing with themselves. is that what you want? |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:21:00 -
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EriktheHeartless wrote:never thought i would agree with lilmamaj. and to all those who say get out , bye ,can i have your stuff..look at the big picture kiddo's enough people leave and it will be the same 15 fanboys playing with themselves. is that what you want?
Yes please. If you think the game will fail, then leave. Then when it fails, say "I told you so" and be happy with yourself. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:22:00 -
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EriktheHeartless wrote:never thought i would agree with lilmamaj. and to all those who say get out , bye ,can i have your stuff..look at the big picture kiddo's enough people leave and it will be the same 15 fanboys playing with themselves. is that what you want?
yes... it's exactly what we want.
it's like the same in EVE, they say, "go back to WoW then.. we don't want your kind here anyway" |
Lawst One
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:22:00 -
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I see the point of the ts, but i am looking to stick it out. in part because already put in the time to figure things out some and like the mmo aspect of the game. I dont care if people are willing ot buy stuff, its their money and not my job to count it.. not different than buying gold in other mmos except its legal. I do wish they perhaps had a walkthru to get your feet wet and teach you the game more but its not like other mmo's.
The game itself isnt bad especially considering the pricetag. it is something with depth, and if you can get a group, i see it as worth playing. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:23:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Shiro Mokuzan wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:can i have your stuff? This is the first time I've seen this glorious question asked in DUST, so +1 like for that. However, you can't transfer stuff yet. Are you kidding me? It was said all over the place for a while. You new?
your just sad cause i got the like and you didn't.. it's like a soccer game, I scored another "goal" |
EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
168
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:24:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:EriktheHeartless wrote:never thought i would agree with lilmamaj. and to all those who say get out , bye ,can i have your stuff..look at the big picture kiddo's enough people leave and it will be the same 15 fanboys playing with themselves. is that what you want? Yes please. If you think the game will fail, then leave. Then when it fails, say "I told you so" and be happy with yourself.
i dont want the game to fail i want a game that people want to play.and i wont be able to say i told you so because up untill recently i have been telling people how great this game would be,therefor i would be proven wrong |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:24:00 -
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I don't see you making it either. Coincidence? |
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:24:00 -
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Omera Trenaric wrote:
but I put that aside because it's in beta.
That makes sense. |
Shiro Mokuzan
220
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:25:00 -
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EriktheHeartless wrote:never thought i would agree with lilmamaj. and to all those who say get out , bye ,can i have your stuff..look at the big picture kiddo's enough people leave and it will be the same 15 fanboys playing with themselves. is that what you want?
If the game doesn't appeal to Johnny Bro-shooter, I won't miss his presence. Just like if EVE doesn't appeal to Mary WoW-player I won't miss her either.
CCP games are not designed to appeal to everyone, but to a certain type of player, and EVE has shown that there are enough of that type of player to keep that game growing steadily for about 10 years.
I think DUST will be the same way. Almost everything the OP complained about are things I like, except for obvious things like crashing (it's a beta) and the aforementioned driving controls. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:26:00 -
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More forever alone type whining. |
Thick McRun Fast
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
177
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:29:00 -
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EriktheHeartless wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:EriktheHeartless wrote:never thought i would agree with lilmamaj. and to all those who say get out , bye ,can i have your stuff..look at the big picture kiddo's enough people leave and it will be the same 15 fanboys playing with themselves. is that what you want? Yes please. If you think the game will fail, then leave. Then when it fails, say "I told you so" and be happy with yourself. i dont want the game to fail i want a game that people want to play.and i wont be able to say i told you so because up untill recently i have been telling people how great this game would be,therefor i would be proven wrong
Nitch games are nitch for a reason. Not everyone can enjoy them. Its impossible for everyone to enjoy the same thing.
True honest opinions are "I don't like the flow of this game, others might but I don't." Then you wave goodbye and we all say happy trails. You don't try and change the fundamentals of the game because you don't like it. You go find a game with a foundation you enjoy. |
EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
168
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:31:00 -
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chances are this game won't be around in 3 years let alone 10 so i don't understand why people are willing to drink the kool aid so quickly. yes eve has been around for a long time but it is the exception not the rule.and eve is also not a console game wich adhere to a different set of rules. |
EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
168
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:34:00 -
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niche games also do not have a long shelf life on console tbqh |
Buck Hardback
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:36:00 -
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This living funeral of an entity not yet born is delicious. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:37:00 -
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Lawst One wrote:I see the point of the ts, but i am looking to stick it out. in part because already put in the time to figure things out some and like the mmo aspect of the game. I dont care if people are willing ot buy stuff, its their money and not my job to count it.. not different than buying gold in other mmos except its legal. I do wish they perhaps had a walkthru to get your feet wet and teach you the game more but its not like other mmo's.
The game itself isnt bad especially considering the pricetag. it is something with depth, and if you can get a group, i see it as worth playing.
Can you do me a favor and check your in game mail please next time you get a chance? I would like to speak with you some if it's not too much of a problem.. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:46:00 -
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I thought we needed more pages of stats, maybe simplify the current one and add all the removed stats to a "technical data page". Then fps players that don't care won't have to wade through it, people that do will have it. People that would like more item info are not all eve players, those strategy guides with all the gun stats for fps games wouldn't be in stores if it was. Things like, how big is the suits signature, weapon range(seems we have optimal and falloff like eve based on comment in video), lock time of swarms, degrees off-bore-sight seeker can acquire, ect...
Custom remappable keys would be nice.
Building work ok now, lot of room for improvement though, sci-fi Stalingrad-like urban ruins size of big skirmish map would be awesome.
glitches need fixed of coarse.
It's a weird console pc-addon, its almost like a dlc for eve that runs on different hardware, this could be a strength letting it be an exception to console rules or weakness that makes unplayable glitches. time will tell, it will be a nitche game though, it won't be able to compete with bf/cod if they try too. So they will need the niche market, hopefully a long lived one. |
Kyy Seiska
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
188
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Posted - 2012.08.27 20:05:00 -
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Maybe I am getting old, as for some reason I have enjoyed Dust 514 far more than I did Battlefield3 and Starhawk beta.
Maybe it's the depth?
Or perhaps the satisfying gunplay?
or perhaps the slower and more tactical combat?
rpg elements?
Many modern online fps games just seem boring run 'n gun fests where random players rush aimlessly in random directions hoping to get some frags before they get killed by backstab or some dude who just happened to have faster reflexes than he did. Respawn repeat and in the end whine/brag about your K/D or Points.
Not to mention that often in those games it doesn't really matter what weapon you use, as long as it shoots bullets. basically only the firerate and damage seem to vary while range is generally 5m or the end of the world. |
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