DUST Search - Squad Leader commands

xxBIG DIRTYxx wrote:

Mauler McCoy wrote:

While I'd like to see more coordination between players, I have to confess myself that it is damn difficult in ANY game to get a little cooperation. The few times I've been in any lobby of any game with a showing of mics, there's always just a buncha people talking about anything and everything under the sun EXCEPT what's really going on. The few times I break in I wind up getting yelled at for even calling out 'sniper in the courtyard'

However, I really think the problem is mostly that everyone is still stuck in Deathmatch mode. You don't think, you don't really plan anything, you just kill. So, if it doesn't immediately help you to get the objective to kill achieved, people aren't going to really do it. I'm sure if you signed up with a squad of people who went in with the intent of either issuing or following orders, you'd get a lot more coordination, not to mention a lot more done.

Yes indeed, get to know the team players and roll with them. Issueing and following orders is a fine way to make massive SP and negate the effects of diminishing returns, i.e. 'gettin paid'. And keep on calling out snipers, tanks etc... ( and use the command wheel its faster and can be done on the fly..... R2 + R3, select command then aim with reticle and shoot command R1).

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Aqil Aegivan The Southern Legion 50	Posted - 2012.09.09 10:01:00 - [31] - Quote Does anyone know of a way to apply squad orders to myself? It would be great if I didn't have to open the minimap. If there's no way to do this perhaps we should request that it be linked to the knife button (R3) or similar, since that would be fairly fluid.
Kyy Seiska Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 188	Posted - 2012.09.09 11:44:00 - [32] - Quote Currently haven't found away to do that, but the squad-command system is only half functional so you only get bonus points. - If squad member captures a point you have ordered him to capture (don't capture it yourself if you want points, instead wait until the member starts capturing and then assist him to get the reward. - Defend object only yields bonus points only if the target is a allied vehicle, allied clone spawn point, ammunition storage. This means defend the squad leader command only tells your team to defend you but they get no rewards doing so if you are not in a vehicle. Then the squad members and leader gets rewarded from kills near the defendable target (area is wider than the circle shown in the map so don't take unnecessary risks just to stay inside the circle)
D'Finn Rhedlyne Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 266	Posted - 2012.09.09 11:47:00 - [33] - Quote My heart sinks when I see my squad and I am not the leader. I just know the squad is gonna be split and not know what the hell they are supposed to be doing. +1 to the OP for bringing this to the attention of the newer players and quite possibly a few of the older ones.
xxBIG DIRTYxx 19	Posted - 2012.09.09 12:04:00 - [34] - Quote Mauler McCoy wrote: While I'd like to see more coordination between players, I have to confess myself that it is damn difficult in ANY game to get a little cooperation. The few times I've been in any lobby of any game with a showing of mics, there's always just a buncha people talking about anything and everything under the sun EXCEPT what's really going on. The few times I break in I wind up getting yelled at for even calling out 'sniper in the courtyard' However, I really think the problem is mostly that everyone is still stuck in Deathmatch mode. You don't think, you don't really plan anything, you just kill. So, if it doesn't immediately help you to get the objective to kill achieved, people aren't going to really do it. I'm sure if you signed up with a squad of people who went in with the intent of either issuing or following orders, you'd get a lot more coordination, not to mention a lot more done. Yes indeed, get to know the team players and roll with them. Issueing and following orders is a fine way to make massive SP and negate the effects of diminishing returns, i.e. 'gettin paid'. And keep on calling out snipers, tanks etc... ( and use the command wheel its faster and can be done on the fly..... R2 + R3, select command then aim with reticle and shoot command R1).
Kyy Seiska Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 188	Posted - 2012.09.09 14:04:00 - [35] - Quote xxBIG DIRTYxx wrote: Mauler McCoy wrote: While I'd like to see more coordination between players, I have to confess myself that it is damn difficult in ANY game to get a little cooperation. The few times I've been in any lobby of any game with a showing of mics, there's always just a buncha people talking about anything and everything under the sun EXCEPT what's really going on. The few times I break in I wind up getting yelled at for even calling out 'sniper in the courtyard' However, I really think the problem is mostly that everyone is still stuck in Deathmatch mode. You don't think, you don't really plan anything, you just kill. So, if it doesn't immediately help you to get the objective to kill achieved, people aren't going to really do it. I'm sure if you signed up with a squad of people who went in with the intent of either issuing or following orders, you'd get a lot more coordination, not to mention a lot more done. Yes indeed, get to know the team players and roll with them. Issueing and following orders is a fine way to make massive SP and negate the effects of diminishing returns, i.e. 'gettin paid'. And keep on calling out snipers, tanks etc... ( and use the command wheel its faster and can be done on the fly..... R2 + R3, select command then aim with reticle and shoot command R1). Yeah it's pretty handy that you can spot and mark enemies with the Attack command it could potentially save lives in your squad. Too bad only the squad can see it. Maybe in the future there will be a weapon/equipment for the same purpose.
FatalFlaw V1 ISK Faucet Industries 76	Posted - 2012.09.09 14:41:00 - [36] - Quote Is there a difference between defending an objective and ordering to rally at an objective? I mean strictly in terms of the squad bonus points. Often I dont end up getting many squad members to actually follow the order. If the order is to defend a target, do only kills near the objective count? Seems that way in vehicles anyway. Edit: Also sometimes its difficult to give an order when you are in a vehicle. Dropships tend to blow themselves up sometimes from bouncing on terrian as you are in the squad command menu. I've noticed it in tanks too but it wasnt as bad.
Kyy Seiska Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 188	Posted - 2012.09.09 15:08:00 - [37] - Quote Yes, kills near the objective only count and the thing you defend needs to be a vehicle, spawn point or ammunition storage. The area is wider than the circle tough so feel free to spread around bit. Rally and attack don't seem to give anything at least for Squad-leader.
City Fan Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2012.09.09 20:32:00 - [38] - Quote Seran Jinkar wrote: I already suggested it: Give us a "Request Orders" and "Start Squad Leader Vote" Option or the ones who have mics.... when i can get them to work.. i only heard voices in one game so far.. so how do you ask for help etc then.. defending, rally etc.... i see no menus or buttons that do it.. but i have been awarded that 'orbital command' 2 or 3 times... didnt even realise it was a weapon to fire.... how did i get it without ordering anyone? were my squad just near me or something?? its very rare for that
Prince Ombra Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 29	Posted - 2012.09.09 20:49:00 - [39] - Quote Orbital strikes are awarded after a team gets a certain number of Warpoints (for killng, hacking, reviving, etc). It's only squad commanders who can order them but I believe everyone on the team knows when they become active.
The-Truth02 Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2012.09.09 21:02:00 - [40] - Quote This is Great info to have, I knew there was a way to give orders, but hadn't figured it out before, I really don't think this is common knowledge... so I'll bump the **** out of this post to get the word out if I have to..



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