...We don't want COD we want good gunplay! I've said it once and I'll sau\y it again the gun mechanics are unacceptable the game has been in dev for 3 years! Even with ex DICE working on the game this is **** poor. There is no way a game should be in dev for 3 years and this is what they have so far.

you wan the gunplay to be as polished as COD yes?

well look at how many cod titles they made everytime they do a new cod seeing as it is a once a year thing they are basically just taking all the same stuff and putting under a new title with som new maps and a campaign that follows the same basic path as all the others.

every new "title" is more or less a glorified dlc that you insist on paying 60 dollars for the same experience every single year. cods gungame probably wasnt as appealing as its 10 polished version that you are currently accustomed to. in fact in cod 1 it was **** the first time cods online gungame was even remotely playable was with MW1 that was 5 or so YEARS into the making of the cod franchise and about 3 YEARS into them working on their multiplayer aspect.

it took cod 7-8 years to reach the multiplayer that they have today and they just bothere to do clan support after being aked about it since MW1 about 5 years ago.

5 YEARS just to be bothered enough to finally put a little more depth into the multiplayer aspect of their game. we are 1 build away from singularity they are still working on the next build and will continue to for what i hope will be a long time because they wont say oh we missed this bug/glitch oh well we'll just let it go unless it becomes too op or just ignore it and work on the next map pack because all they care about is separating you from your money.

look at EVE that wasnt a one year process that is a persistent work that both ccp and its amazingly vocal community genuinely care about and want to see become even greater. go to youtube find the videos on burn jita EVE was able to handle having around 2500 ships in one system and was still working.

cod has nothing on this game in any way shape or form quite frankly cod is a dissapointment because they dont give a damn about the gamer they just keep pushing out cookie cutter game every year and only change the color of the sprinkles.
you dont like the game LEAVE.
ill be more than happy to collect your portion of the loot.


that is all and have a nice day/night

im not saying that there arent any problems im saying that they are comparing a game in its infancy to one that has had over a decade to get it right.

thats like comparing the yankees to a little league team

you wan the gunplay to be as polished as COD yes?

well look at how many cod titles they made everytime they do a new cod seeing as it is a once a year thing they are basically just taking all the same stuff and putting under a new title with som new maps and a campaign that follows the same basic path as all the others.

every new "title" is more or less a glorified dlc that you insist on paying 60 dollars for the same experience every single year. cods gungame probably wasnt as appealing as its 10 polished version that you are currently accustomed to. in fact in cod 1 it was **** the first time cods online gungame was even remotely playable was with MW1 that was 5 or so YEARS into the making of the cod franchise and about 3 YEARS into them working on their multiplayer aspect.

it took cod 7-8 years to reach the multiplayer that they have today and they just bothere to do clan support after being aked about it since MW1 about 5 years ago.

5 YEARS just to be bothered enough to finally put a little more depth into the multiplayer aspect of their game. we are 1 build away from singularity they are still working on the next build and will continue to for what i hope will be a long time because they wont say oh we missed this bug/glitch oh well we'll just let it go unless it becomes too op or just ignore it and work on the next map pack because all they care about is separating you from your money.

look at EVE that wasnt a one year process that is a persistent work that both ccp and its amazingly vocal community genuinely care about and want to see become even greater. go to youtube find the videos on burn jita EVE was able to handle having around 2500 ships in one system and was still working.

cod has nothing on this game in any way shape or form quite frankly cod is a dissapointment because they dont give a damn about the gamer they just keep pushing out cookie cutter game every year and only change the color of the sprinkles.
you dont like the game LEAVE.
ill be more than happy to collect your portion of the loot.


that is all and have a nice day/night

Has COD or BF ever have to worry about connecting two different types of games together and running them all on one Shard?
Has COD or BF ever have to worry about the lore behind the different races and have that reflect through the weapons/suits/ and vehicles?
Has COD or BF ever had a Economy where everything has to be priced just right?
Has COD or BF ever really innovated or pushed the Genre to a new area? (recent games)

This industry has gotten to stale with COD or COD rip offs.
Does the game need some tuning Yes, and with time the game will run smoother as they fix all the bugs on the server side.

How many times me and you said that pal?
Hundreds!

Well, I hate to be "that guy" but Dust has been in development since 2009 -at least-, which would mean that this is it's third year of development and testing. More likely however, is that it has been in development since 2007 or 2008, in which case this would be its fourth or fifth year of development and testing. So your argument that Dust has only been in testing for a few months vs CoD which has had over a decade, is slightly skewed, and quite invalid really.

However, the same is true for CoD, it was probably in development for two-to-four years before launch, meaning Black Ops 2 will be around it's 12th or 13th year. So your argument should be Dust has only had five years of development and testing, where as CoD has had just over a decade, more than doubling the time that Dust has been around.

This argument is still valid however, as CoD took -three years- after its initial launch to finally have a decent feel about it, and really make it's name popular, meaning that Dust still has hope, quite a lot at that. So long as CCP keeps themselves devoted to their players, and never shelves Dust 514, it will grow, and it will gain a following, just like EVE has. There will always be people looking for a deeper experience, and Dust will provide that.

what im saying is that it took cod years to get to its level of gunplay performance and yet your bashing ccp after theyve only been testing it for months

This is a beta. CCP want us to tell us what is wrong. Telling people to shut up or leave is the opposite of what should be happening.

Further, the gunplay should be smooth at launch - even the first CoD met the standard for what is required in a shooter. It's not ready until it is smooth; that's basic FPS gameplay and is not something that should be fixed after release in any circumstance ever.

That being said, I don't think CCP want to release the game until gunplay is smooth, so if you think you're defending their honor I think you'll find they disagree with your premise, value feedback, and you've missed the point of a beta.

umm LOLwut?
cod always had solid gunplay wtf are u smokin?

im not being a fanboy and defending them im just saying that they want the gungame to be as polished as a decade old franchise when theyre coming right out of the gate on their first endeavor.

their technology is better so theyll be able to do it in less time but thats the main thing is TIME you cant expect to post a problem and then have them be able to fix it instantly.

you talk about the problem having been there in june but what your blinding ourself to is the improvements they have made which also address that problem along with the others.

all you E3 build guys may not know it but that build was the beggining of the beta essentially before that was basically the alpha build where people were getting used to the controls and the feel for the game E3 build was where they polished it up and started doing the tweaking and the fixing so that gives them about a month and a half to be adressing ALL the problems that have been reported not just the one problem.

just have patience aslong as people are showing interest they will be working to make this game better.

What does good gunplay have to do with your hate for CoD. People want the gunplay to be on par with all fps not just CoD. You can say all you want against CoD but the gunplay is one thing they get right.

lol and why that because every time you shot a person on cod its instant death the game is gay and ppl say its realistic when u die that fast haha sheit in rl alot off ppl still move when they get shot not instantly fall down like a ***** dust514 is gonna make cod into a new fps genre called fps arcade cause compared to dust cod is like a simple arcade game run n gun or more like camp n kill shot kill turn corner get killed over n over n over

If you feel that way get a friend to shoot you point blank in the torso and keep standing. If you live do the same thing agin at about 15 meters away. Now repeat the steps again while recording it. Last step: post on YouTube

Let me summarize:

We should leave if we think this a beta that needs improvement. Do you fanboys realize that you are a contradiction in this game development? It astounds me.

I like how everyone is bitching about CCP not getting things done... for one Dust514 is FREE. I'm sorry you paid 60$ for the same ******* CoD games but nobody has to pay a cent for this game.

Secondly Dust514 is still in beta, something the Cod team could learn from before re-titling the same game and selling it as something new.

Third, this is nowhere to as complete as the actual game... Have any of you read the interviews stating what all is going to be added to Dust? This beta is just a sliver of the game and that's just what CCP has told people, there is so much more they refuse to talk about.

Get a ******* grip people.

if your illiterate then how can you be writing on these forums?

So othr than the following

Sniper rifel red dot lies sometimes.
Shotguns are OP at lower levels
and Swarm Launchers are fustrating
and Breached overnerfed
And controller sensitivity doesnt scale well.

What other gun play issues we're having?

So other than the following

Few more refinements in hit boxing.
Sniper rifel red dot lies sometimes.
Shotguns are OP at lower levels
Swarm Launchers are fustrating to use.
Forge Gun range overnerfed.
Pernamently jerked out of aim when shot using ADS
and Breach AR overnerfed
And controller sensitivity doesnt scale well.

What other gun play issues we're having?

They need to raise the breach ammo per mag to the same as the regular ar

massive TLDR bro