DUST Search - for all the guys complaining about the gunplay

Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:

Well, I hate to be "that guy" but Dust has been in development since 2009 -at least-, which would mean that this is it's third year of development and testing. More likely however, is that it has been in development since 2007 or 2008, in which case this would be its fourth or fifth year of development and testing. So your argument that Dust has only been in testing for a few months vs CoD which has had over a decade, is slightly skewed, and quite invalid really.

However, the same is true for CoD, it was probably in development for two-to-four years before launch, meaning Black Ops 2 will be around it's 12th or 13th year. So your argument should be Dust has only had five years of development and testing, where as CoD has had just over a decade, more than doubling the time that Dust has been around.

This argument is still valid however, as CoD took -three years- after its initial launch to finally have a decent feel about it, and really make it's name popular, meaning that Dust still has hope, quite a lot at that. So long as CCP keeps themselves devoted to their players, and never shelves Dust 514, it will grow, and it will gain a following, just like EVE has. There will always be people looking for a deeper experience, and Dust will provide that.


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theschizogenious KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2012.08.24 04:07:00 - [1] - Quote you wan the gunplay to be as polished as COD yes? well look at how many cod titles they made everytime they do a new cod seeing as it is a once a year thing they are basically just taking all the same stuff and putting under a new title with som new maps and a campaign that follows the same basic path as all the others. every new "title" is more or less a glorified dlc that you insist on paying 60 dollars for the same experience every single year. cods gungame probably wasnt as appealing as its 10 polished version that you are currently accustomed to. in fact in cod 1 it was **** the first time cods online gungame was even remotely playable was with MW1 that was 5 or so YEARS into the making of the cod franchise and about 3 YEARS into them working on their multiplayer aspect. it took cod 7-8 years to reach the multiplayer that they have today and they just bothere to do clan support after being aked about it since MW1 about 5 years ago. 5 YEARS just to be bothered enough to finally put a little more depth into the multiplayer aspect of their game. we are 1 build away from singularity they are still working on the next build and will continue to for what i hope will be a long time because they wont say oh we missed this bug/glitch oh well we'll just let it go unless it becomes too op or just ignore it and work on the next map pack because all they care about is separating you from your money. look at EVE that wasnt a one year process that is a persistent work that both ccp and its amazingly vocal community genuinely care about and want to see become even greater. go to youtube find the videos on burn jita EVE was able to handle having around 2500 ships in one system and was still working. cod has nothing on this game in any way shape or form quite frankly cod is a dissapointment because they dont give a damn about the gamer they just keep pushing out cookie cutter game every year and only change the color of the sprinkles. you dont like the game LEAVE. ill be more than happy to collect your portion of the loot. that is all and have a nice day/night
theschizogenious KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2012.08.24 04:19:00 - [2] - Quote W0olley wrote: What does good gunplay have to do with your hate for CoD. People want the gunplay to be on par with all fps not just CoD. You can say all you want against CoD but the gunplay is one thing they get right. what im saying is that it took cod years to get to its level of gunplay performance and yet your bashing ccp after theyve only been testing it for months
theschizogenious KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2012.08.24 04:24:00 - [3] - Quote Burger Helper wrote: so you're saying the people who complain about the hit detection being bad, and the very basic core shooter mechanics being poor, are just cod kids? well damn i guess i better go out and buy black ops two im not saying that there arent any problems im saying that they are comparing a game in its infancy to one that has had over a decade to get it right. thats like comparing the yankees to a little league team
theschizogenious KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2012.08.24 04:28:00 - [4] - Quote Kleanur Guy wrote: theschizogenious wrote: W0olley wrote: What does good gunplay have to do with your hate for CoD. People want the gunplay to be on par with all fps not just CoD. You can say all you want against CoD but the gunplay is one thing they get right. what im saying is that it took cod years to get to its level of gunplay performance and yet your bashing ccp after theyve only been testing it for months No they've been testing it since 2009... really theyve been having a closed beta with around a thousand people shooting at the same time while also trying to run vehicles that are moving and shooting and the turrets and the people that arent in game that are walking about in the waiting area or the MQ.
theschizogenious KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2012.08.24 04:33:00 - [5] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: theschizogenious wrote: Burger Helper wrote: so you're saying the people who complain about the hit detection being bad, and the very basic core shooter mechanics being poor, are just cod kids? well damn i guess i better go out and buy black ops two im not saying that there arent any problems im saying that they are comparing a game in its infancy to one that has had over a decade to get it right. thats like comparing the yankees to a little league team CCP is not a little league team. They are entering the big league. CCP needs to adapt or die. itll be a cold day in hell before a team of people who never played in the big leagues went on to win the world series in their first season against teams that are foundated in decades of trial and error.
theschizogenious KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2012.08.24 04:38:00 - [6] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: theschizogenious wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: theschizogenious wrote: Burger Helper wrote: so you're saying the people who complain about the hit detection being bad, and the very basic core shooter mechanics being poor, are just cod kids? well damn i guess i better go out and buy black ops two im not saying that there arent any problems im saying that they are comparing a game in its infancy to one that has had over a decade to get it right. thats like comparing the yankees to a little league team CCP is not a little league team. They are entering the big league. CCP needs to adapt or die. itll be a cold day in hell before a team of people who never played in the big leagues went on to win the world series in their first season against teams that are foundated in decades of trial and error. Have you ever even watched a baseball movie? It happens all the time. lol yes because movies are accurate representations of real life i completely forgot that part and submit to your infinite wisdom. ill give you +1 for teh lulz
theschizogenious KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2012.08.24 04:45:00 - [7] - Quote if your illiterate then how can you be writing on these forums?
theschizogenious KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2012.08.24 16:24:00 - [8] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: Well, I hate to be "that guy" but Dust has been in development since 2009 -at least-, which would mean that this is it's third year of development and testing. More likely however, is that it has been in development since 2007 or 2008, in which case this would be its fourth or fifth year of development and testing. So your argument that Dust has only been in testing for a few months vs CoD which has had over a decade, is slightly skewed, and quite invalid really. However, the same is true for CoD, it was probably in development for two-to-four years before launch, meaning Black Ops 2 will be around it's 12th or 13th year. So your argument should be Dust has only had five years of development and testing, where as CoD has had just over a decade, more than doubling the time that Dust has been around. This argument is still valid however, as CoD took -three years- after its initial launch to finally have a decent feel about it, and really make it's name popular, meaning that Dust still has hope, quite a lot at that. So long as CCP keeps themselves devoted to their players, and never shelves Dust 514, it will grow, and it will gain a following, just like EVE has. There will always be people looking for a deeper experience, and Dust will provide that. thats what i was getting at but the reason that i wasnt incorporating the amount of time that was years before each game was that its alot easier to have a game run smoothly when the people who are testing it are all on the same server in the same building instead of being strung out across the world like the betas are.
theschizogenious KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2012.08.24 16:32:00 - [9] - Quote Tariq Tamir wrote: This is a beta. CCP want us to tell us what is wrong. Telling people to shut up or leave is the opposite of what should be happening. Further, the gunplay should be smooth at launch - even the first CoD met the standard for what is required in a shooter. It's not ready until it is smooth; that's basic FPS gameplay and is not something that should be fixed after release in any circumstance ever. That being said, I don't think CCP want to release the game until gunplay is smooth, so if you think you're defending their honor I think you'll find they disagree with your premise, value feedback, and you've missed the point of a beta. im not being a fanboy and defending them im just saying that they want the gungame to be as polished as a decade old franchise when theyre coming right out of the gate on their first endeavor. their technology is better so theyll be able to do it in less time but thats the main thing is TIME you cant expect to post a problem and then have them be able to fix it instantly. you talk about the problem having been there in june but what your blinding ourself to is the improvements they have made which also address that problem along with the others. all you E3 build guys may not know it but that build was the beggining of the beta essentially before that was basically the alpha build where people were getting used to the controls and the feel for the game E3 build was where they polished it up and started doing the tweaking and the fixing so that gives them about a month and a half to be adressing ALL the problems that have been reported not just the one problem. just have patience aslong as people are showing interest they will be working to make this game better.
theschizogenious KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2012.08.24 19:13:00 - [10] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: theschizogenious wrote: W0olley wrote: What does good gunplay have to do with your hate for CoD. People want the gunplay to be on par with all fps not just CoD. You can say all you want against CoD but the gunplay is one thing they get right. what im saying is that it took cod years to get to its level of gunplay performance and yet your bashing ccp after theyve only been testing it for months umm LOLwut? cod always had solid gunplay wtf are u smokin? cods first multiplayer was **** so idk what your smokin

theschizogenious KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2012.08.25 02:27:00 - [11] - Quote game hasnt launched yet and theyre still working on it its been said its a beta and everyone know's that with the exception of yourself
theschizogenious KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2012.08.25 03:18:00 - [12] - Quote you might not want to cuss so much just pointing that out
theschizogenious KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2012.08.25 14:36:00 - [13] - Quote STB Vermaak Doe wrote: XxStonedAssassinxX wrote: W0olley wrote: What does good gunplay have to do with your hate for CoD. People want the gunplay to be on par with all fps not just CoD. You can say all you want against CoD but the gunplay is one thing they get right. lol and why that because every time you shot a person on cod its instant death the game is gay and ppl say its realistic when u die that fast haha sheit in rl alot off ppl still move when they get shot not instantly fall down like a ***** dust514 is gonna make cod into a new fps genre called fps arcade cause compared to dust cod is like a simple arcade game run n gun or more like camp n kill shot kill turn corner get killed over n over n over If you feel that way get a friend to shoot you point blank in the torso and keep standing. If you live do the same thing agin at about 15 meters away. Now repeat the steps again while recording it. Last step: post on YouTube cant see anything going wrong with that better yet let your friend use rubber rounds and see if you can stand after one of those at point blank or stab yourself with a taser
theschizogenious KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2012.08.25 18:10:00 - [14] - Quote some people need to take a chillaxitive