Ah. Uh-huh. Well that is a gross accusation. Funny, but still a gross accusation.

It suggest you're crazy but it's just an antisocial attitude

Oh my... I've been found out.

Sarcasm. Can you sense it there? Ha-ha. Thank you, for the good laugh though.

Back on topic -- "Scouts!"

I hate to burst your bubble but Scouts aren't invincible. Hit detection along with lag and low/choppy Fps makes them seem invincible, but among all that there are many things that will take scouts out very easily, Any Anti-infantry grenade, Mass drivers, Shotguns(scare me the most cause of the instant death), Charged Sniper rifle, Forge gun, and if your a good shot the scrambler pistol (takes only a hand full of shots).
Should the Strafe speed be nerfed, i don't personally think so. I think if you nerf 1 of the 2 critical aspects of being a Scout (Speed and fast shield recharge) your basically turning it into a weak Assault suite.

Not a good counter against my Mass Driver, Abron. I'll kill us both if you get too close to me and my Mass Driver, and if I'm still at full health I'll kill the scout and walk away with only a damaged logi suit. Many a scout have made that mistake, thinking closer is safer.

I understand the frustration when the hit detection isn't working well, but I don't think scouts need any nerfing, they die just fine.

Nerfing the scout suit is NOT the answer. Like others have said, it has high speed but LOW HP. If you nerf the speed it will make it completely useless.

What needs to be done to balance the scout, is the improvement of the hit detection/frame rate. Improving this alone will fix the prob.

Actually, the turn rate of the Assault and Logistics needs to be the same speed as the scout strafing speed. NO suit should be able to strafe faster than a suit can turn. Not only does it make zero sense, it ruins game play for everyone but the scout.

I like the scout. I play the equivalent of a scout in most FPS titles I play. I play quick and hit harder. What I dislike above all else are conformist. People are jumping ship and joining the scout ranks just because, they believe any and everything. If you put it on the interent -- well the stupid flock to it, and believe it. Same happened to SVER in MAG. I'm dreading this happening to Dust514. It's lame. Granted I'll give you the scout is annoying at times. Frame rate may play an issue during certain situations, but overall? Scouts are parafin paper. People over exaggerate and stretch the truths. It starts with one person complaining, and someone buys into it, and then another, and another. It's a cascade affect. Look at history, and you'll see a pattern. People do it to themselves.

I was serious. I am borderlining leaving the scout behind simply because, of conformist. I just want my command suit though. Been asking for that since day one of the E3 build. Yup. Selfish? Maybe.

I blame the metagame.

Because a lot of people are specializing into heavy and logistics suits the scout's speed is now starting to become relevant. The best way to defeat a strafing scout is to strafe 45 degrees backwards... this will make the scout's relative rotation to you slower which will allow you to peg them with bullets.

Not sure what you mean. I use mostly assault, and have no prob turning to keep up with a scouts strafe speed.
What's your controller sensitivity set to? Perhaps turn it up? Not trying to troll, being serious.
The problem I run into is scouts being able to literally just hit left, right, left, right repeatedly on the left stick, and just strafe right through a stream of bullets without anything registering.

I can not be sure the cause but I am sure of the effect. To be honest...assaults can do it too. They will get hit a bit more but a noticeable amount of bullets will miss the assault.

Im a heavy so scouts can run circles around me but most of the time I win because I lead my shots, nothing more satisfying then watching a scout jump into the stream of death that my HMG spits out lol. But I'll agree scouts do move fast it could be toned down just alittle and let them retain their edge in battle

Actually, the turn rate of the Assault and Logistics needs to be the same speed as the scout strafing speed. NO suit should be able to strafe faster than a suit can turn. Not only does it make zero sense, it ruins game play for everyone but the scout.

Actually, months ago in the beta they were still tweaking turn speed, and I believe the heavy was further reduced at some point. It's always been a tactic to get in close and strafe faster than they can turn, it's the very reason the classes have different turn speeds and limits.

If your class has more slots for tank, more base tank, AND you can turn as fast as a scout can strafe, please tell me what advantage a scout has over assault/logi at that point?

It wont even matter if they strafe or not, you have equal or greater damage and more tank so ignoring skill your class is now imbalanced vs scout.

Actually, months ago in the beta they were still tweaking turn speed, and I believe the heavy was further reduced at some point. It's always been a tactic to get in close and strafe faster than they can turn, it's the very reason the classes have different turn speeds and limits.

If your class has more slots for tank, more base tank, AND you can turn as fast as a scout can strafe, please tell me what advantage a scout has over assault/logi at that point?

It wont even matter if they strafe or not, you have equal or greater damage and more tank so ignoring skill your class is now imbalanced vs scout.

The speed of the scout suit is fine, but the character model and hit box on the scout is too small. Damage doesn't always register against them. Anybody that denies this is clearly abusing the class.