Prices are just too damn high for the average player to bu, and maintain anything above Basic gear. Hell, they would even have a hard time maintaining the unkeep suit outfitted with JUST basic gear. And once the game goes live, prices are probably going to sky rocket due to Eve player greed, and we'll only be given low priced contract to maintain our fittings.


Think about it. once this game goes live, EVE players will make our weapons (yes, even the standard ones) extremely expensive. I'm talking about guns jumping to the tens of thousands, or maybe even the hundreds of thousands for a single standard weapon. They'll do that just to screw us over, and to leech off us.

They'll screw us over even more by making contracts that'll only have a price cap of maybe 5-10k. You'll have to play 10 games to be able to buy 5 standard guns.


That's what this game will turn into.


prices are too damn high, and they're only going to get higher. We will all be stuck in militia gear once this game is finished.

Think about it. once this game goes live, EVE players will make our weapons (yes, even the standard ones) extremely expensive. I'm talking about guns jumping to the tens of thousands, or maybe even the hundreds of thousands for a single standard weapon. They'll do that just to screw us over, and to leech off us.

Not really, I consider myself to be an average player and I've played this new build for about 15 hours so far. I'm already using the advanced rifles.

Prices are just too damn high for the average player to bu, and maintain anything above Basic gear. Hell, they would even have a hard time maintaining the unkeep suit outfitted with JUST basic gear. And once the game goes live, prices are probably going to sky rocket due to Eve player greed, and we'll only be given low priced contract to maintain our fittings.


Think about it. once this game goes live, EVE players will make our weapons (yes, even the standard ones) extremely expensive. I'm talking about guns jumping to the tens of thousands, or maybe even the hundreds of thousands for a single standard weapon. They'll do that just to screw us over, and to leech off us.

They'll screw us over even more by making contracts that'll only have a price cap of maybe 5-10k. You'll have to play 10 games to be able to buy 5 standard guns.


That's what this game will turn into.


prices are too damn high, and they're only going to get higher. We will all be stuck in militia gear once this game is finished.

Eve players aren't going to be able to make much of a profit selling equipment too expensively, if they do people will undercut them.

Even if the player-driven market remains expensive, it won't affect the primary NPC-run market. If people want to make money, they'll have to sell cheaper than the primary market.

As for contracts, no one will do them if they're not worth it, they'll just do NPC missions, matchmaking in High-Sec, or battles for their own corp to make money, which again will screw over EVE players. They'll have to pay us well if they want our services, and from the sounds of how Planetary Interaction will work once Dust goes live, they'll lose control of entire systems without our help.

I'm pretty sure us Dust Bunnies will be fine.

It is broken at the moment. This ecomic model, while incomplete, sets the wrong direction. Even prototype gear should be managable even if it is not every round. People will not skill for bread and butter stuff (non rare isk gear) they can't have fun in. There is empire, pirate, and faction warfare gear for Sunday best .

I was curious as to what you meant by npc market? I was under the impression ( aside from the aurum store) that we were adopting the eve market and therefore there is no "npc market" to speak of (aside from loyalty point stores which are close to the aurum store) the market is solely player driven with the only exception being when ccp releases something new and they have to inject a blue print or something like it in

I had heard that they'd be running an NPC market similar to the one they have now alongside the player market for awhile after launch. I don't remember where I read that, though.

I hope i can make them in EVE

Right now im sticking to milita gear, it is not worth using anything else atm until i have a fat bank account so i can support it for a fair amount of time because isk rewards at the end of a match aint that great

Who says prototype should be manageable? Keeping people poor makes mercenary contracts with bigger payoffs more important. If people can just play random fights and they get enough money to run around in top-tier stuff almost all the time, then who would care about doing contracts? What incentive would there be to try and make a bunch of ISK fighting for an EVE corp?

The only way to make mercenary work attractive is to make ISK valuable. The way to make ISK valuable is to prevent people from easily having all of it that they want. High prices and low payouts for regular missions ensures that, once doing contracts comes in, people will really want to do them, and they'll really want to win at them, because then they can afford to run around in expensive stuff for a while.

Because the alternative is DUST becomes a job to play in a fun way. ISK IS easy to get, especially once the game is live. Good gear should be time or AUR to find, earn, trade for, etc. Stuff you merely unlock should always be accessible. I'm telling you now, before the wipe, the best players in the game were going broke using prototype gear. That doesn't make any sense, and will delete the incentive to skill up in the first place. And that incentive drives the AUR market, aka the long term viability of the game. There can be unaffordable gear, but if that is the same gear that is the reward for leveling up the economy is broken.

Well, I think militia gear being the "average" gear is overall a GOOD thing, but it does seem like everyone is forgetting about PVE.

Prices are just too damn high for the average player to bu, and maintain anything above Basic gear. Hell, they would even have a hard time maintaining the unkeep suit outfitted with JUST basic gear. And once the game goes live, prices are probably going to sky rocket due to Eve player greed, and we'll only be given low priced contract to maintain our fittings.


Think about it. once this game goes live, EVE players will make our weapons (yes, even the standard ones) extremely expensive. I'm talking about guns jumping to the tens of thousands, or maybe even the hundreds of thousands for a single standard weapon. They'll do that just to screw us over, and to leech off us.

They'll screw us over even more by making contracts that'll only have a price cap of maybe 5-10k. You'll have to play 10 games to be able to buy 5 standard guns.


That's what this game will turn into.


prices are too damn high, and they're only going to get higher. We will all be stuck in militia gear once this game is finished.

do we have any signs that PVE will take place at launch?

I dunno I love being in milita gear never felt so satisfying destroying aurum and isk gear.

do we have any signs that PVE will take place at launch?

Because the alternative is DUST becomes a job to play in a fun way. ISK IS easy to get, especially once the game is live. Good gear should be time or AUR to find, earn, trade for, etc. Stuff you merely unlock should always be accessible. I'm telling you now, before the wipe, the best players in the game were going broke using prototype gear. That doesn't make any sense, and will delete the incentive to skill up in the first place. And that incentive drives the AUR market, aka the long term viability of the game. There can be unaffordable gear, but if that is the same gear that is the reward for leveling up the economy is broken.

I don't care what prices are set. If I have a clan battle (only time you NEED Prototype stuff) then I'll just grind some PvE assault drone stuff with the guys. Or with randoms.
Relax guys. The prices are steep, but I think once we get to use Proto gear (no-one is on 8mil sp. I hope), we'll see it dominate. I had mad stats... and I will again.

If it's purely PvP pickup stuff, IMHO the current prices are too high. But only a bit. Advanced should be the dominant suit in most games.

tony i officialy give up on trying to understand you.

you go from talking nothing but shite about this game to being an advocate for it bro you got some forum bipolarity going on.

Prices are just too damn high for the average player to bu, and maintain anything above Basic gear. Hell, they would even have a hard time maintaining the unkeep suit outfitted with JUST basic gear. And once the game goes live, prices are probably going to sky rocket due to Eve player greed, and we'll only be given low priced contract to maintain our fittings.


Think about it. once this game goes live, EVE players will make our weapons (yes, even the standard ones) extremely expensive. I'm talking about guns jumping to the tens of thousands, or maybe even the hundreds of thousands for a single standard weapon. They'll do that just to screw us over, and to leech off us.

They'll screw us over even more by making contracts that'll only have a price cap of maybe 5-10k. You'll have to play 10 games to be able to buy 5 standard guns.


That's what this game will turn into.


prices are too damn high, and they're only going to get higher. We will all be stuck in militia gear once this game is finished.

If PvE coop isn't in at launch, Dust is fail.