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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2012.08.16 16:20:00 -
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I keep trying to like dropships, but it seems like they just get worse and worse with each new build. These new controls are laughable at best, I really hope it's just a bug or a bad joke.... |
Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
242
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Posted - 2012.08.16 16:28:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I keep trying to like dropships, but it seems like they just get worse and worse with each new build. These new controls are laughable at best, I really hope it's just a bug or a bad joke....
Well I like them :-P |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.16 16:38:00 -
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they just either went overboard nerfing them (which they did need a nerf they were waaay to easy to fly last build, it was basiaclly a hover tank) or they havent added the things that will stabilize them yet (pilot suit, propulsion) props to op for trying and suceeding some wtih them and you have every right to brag- a pilot who doesn't brag is just some guy.
the friendly fire effecting their physics is disturbing because then we just get grief by ppl who hate pilots but I'm sure they will work it out if not no ones gonna be flying dropships and despite what ragers claim CCP is not that stupid to just leave them like they are open to being grief by non enemy fire, the code was just not completed I'm guessing they didn't code in friendly fire vs non or idk but no one should scream about a sky is falling.. they want dropships to be in game but currently as they are it's not feasible really to risk them at such a high cost.
that said i dont have the isk right now to learn 2 fly them but I will be back once they get them worked out.. i'm having alot of fun on the ground anyway witnessing my first orbital strike was cool |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.16 16:43:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:they just either went overboard nerfing them (which they did need a nerf they were waaay to easy to fly last build, it was basiaclly a hover tank) or they havent added the things that will stabilize them yet (pilot suit, propulsion) props to op for trying and suceeding some wtih them and you have every right to brag- a pilot who doesn't brag is just some guy.
the friendly fire effecting their physics is disturbing because then we just get grief by ppl who hate pilots but I'm sure they will work it out if not no ones gonna be flying dropships and despite what ragers claim CCP is not that stupid to just leave them like they are open to being grief by non enemy fire, the code was just not completed I'm guessing they didn't code in friendly fire vs non or idk but no one should scream about a sky is falling.. they want dropships to be in game but currently as they are it's not feasible really to risk them at such a high cost.
that said i dont have the isk right now to learn 2 fly them but I will be back once they get them worked out.. i'm having alot of fun on the ground anyway witnessing my first orbital strike was cool
I shot at some guy flying on my team. I was way out in the open, running towards him, and he took off. I put a few bullets in it to tell him to pick me up.
Then I watched him do a lazy half loop into a pipe and almost crush me with the burning wreck.
CCP philosophy: cars in the future have no traction control or 4wd, aircraft in the future explode if you sneeze on them, all vehicles shake almost until they disintegrate if they crash into anything, like for example if a bee hits the windscreen.
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Thor Thunder Fist
Better Hide R Die
79
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Posted - 2012.08.16 16:53:00 -
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I called down a viper to see how the physics were. I liked them. think of barrel rolls and back flips as things that will break swarm locks. I also had no trouble with people spawning in and jumping out or shooting people with the turrets. I did eventually get shot down but it was a hell of fun flying around trying not to flip over |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.16 17:02:00 -
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Ferocitan wrote:give us an indicator when the landingear is down. since us pilots usually look top down when flying. I think Square do something too. open doors or panding gear. im not sure. They need to update the Pdf they gave out with all the new controlls.
It only opens doors so snipers can shoot people out. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.16 17:07:00 -
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Extra manuverable???
Seriously I cant dance around a light pole with the nose pointed to it in 2 seconds in the new model. I definetly cant go under the pipes in 2 second either.
There is a severe loss in mobility and agility. Velocity mass was increased that I dont mind, Fighting the wind that I dont mind, Getting nailed by hostile fire altering course, that I dont mind.
The simple fact that I cannot precisely land in the same amount of time on top of a cru or go full throttle under the warehouses without hitting a box down there. Dodge a swarm launch by manuvering alone.
This game is supposed to be for anyone to pick up and learn on day one but mastering over time the new controls alone is exact opposite of that approach.
Give me the new physics, drop the new controls. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.16 17:12:00 -
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Just you wait until friendly fire hurts you too... I think everyone is looking forward to that one. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.16 17:12:00 -
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Umallon Macross wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:they just either went overboard nerfing them (which they did need a nerf they were waaay to easy to fly last build, it was basiaclly a hover tank) or they havent added the things that will stabilize them yet (pilot suit, propulsion) props to op for trying and suceeding some wtih them and you have every right to brag- a pilot who doesn't brag is just some guy.
the friendly fire effecting their physics is disturbing because then we just get grief by ppl who hate pilots but I'm sure they will work it out if not no ones gonna be flying dropships and despite what ragers claim CCP is not that stupid to just leave them like they are open to being grief by non enemy fire, the code was just not completed I'm guessing they didn't code in friendly fire vs non or idk but no one should scream about a sky is falling.. they want dropships to be in game but currently as they are it's not feasible really to risk them at such a high cost.
that said i dont have the isk right now to learn 2 fly them but I will be back once they get them worked out.. i'm having alot of fun on the ground anyway witnessing my first orbital strike was cool I shot at some guy flying on my team. I was way out in the open, running towards him, and he took off. I put a few bullets in it to tell him to pick me up. Then I watched him do a lazy half loop into a pipe and almost crush me with the burning wreck.
CCP philosophy: cars in the future have no traction control or 4wd, aircraft in the future explode if you sneeze on them, all vehicles shake almost until they disintegrate if they crash into anything, like for example if a bee hits the windscreen.
lol..
yea my maiden patch flight was very short I had a big smile I was like yea this is cool until I was slammed with an SL travelling the speed of the voyager satalite.
i was shot down over about 16 enemy troops but i managed to duvolle their medic down who was reviving the guy my burning wreck crashed into, before I was gunned down by all 14 of the rest of them shot me at the same time.
must have been an epic moment on their end which i don't mind being the guy who looses because someone else is having their moment and fun- it's not all about me
needless to say I didn't survive like the guy does in "Behind Enemy Lines"
i really like these threads tho it's a testament to pilot mentality of how were able to discuss this like men instead of spoiled children who have had their toys taken away from them and make rageposts about how CCP sux.
no. we pilots, you see, we discuss things sarcastically without turning it into a division of the community when no one sypathizes with our rantings and then it becomes cod kid vs evetard flame thread. take note everyone.
/salute to my other pilots, I'm turning in my wings for now guys [Top Gun moment. scared, shaken look] and keep us up with these good reports
PS what botherd me the most was that my 3900 shield was destroyed by only one SL, if i could still tank some hits then I could deal with the mobilty challenge but not having any ability to tank hits and being so unstable was a bit more than i could "tank" the biggest hit's i'm taking tho are to my wallet, those 3 combined have done it for me for now. i will be back when they get some things figured/ironed out |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.08.16 17:18:00 -
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It'll really be interesting to see how things look in a couple weeks and what people spend their SP on. I'm seriously doubting it'll be full-on into dropships. No way of earning SP without help (don't even get SP for spawns), massive price hike, significant SP investment.. not sure how badly I'm a glutton for punishment. |
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TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.16 17:19:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:I called down a viper to see how the physics were. I liked them. think of barrel rolls and back flips as things that will break swarm locks. I also had no trouble with people spawning in and jumping out or shooting people with the turrets. I did eventually get shot down but it was a hell of fun flying around trying not to flip over
do you mean the ship or the guy from top gun?
sry guys full of bad jokes today waiting for the server no offense to anyone not only that but this stupid forum the way it jumps up and down as you type with that laggy save draft thing drives me insane |
coldfire reborn
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
63
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Posted - 2012.08.16 17:28:00 -
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i dnt know abut you guys but i like the new feel to tham all you need to do is take the time to tlk to your baby and she will rock you make it so no one can spwn in it fly it hi up and fly it arond to get the new feel trust me in time you will fly like a pro
on the side note the landing part is indeed abit overkill
i did hav one time were i did a backflip and a guy dropout of my dropship and land on top of my dropship as i str to fly away he had a mic and me and him were lol |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.16 17:35:00 -
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next time i can afford to fly i will have some dog tags with me, squeeze them in my hand and say things like "talk to me goose" i think that's maybe why i was shot down so quick.. and when my gunner is asking me "why the hell didnt you engage?" I will push that sob a remind him I WILL ENGAGE WHEN I'M GDAM GOOD AND READY!!! |
Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
242
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Posted - 2012.08.16 18:06:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:next time i can afford to fly i will have some dog tags with me, squeeze them in my hand and say things like "talk to me goose" i think that's maybe why i was shot down so quick.. and when my gunner is asking me "why the hell didnt you engage?" I will push that sob a remind him I WILL ENGAGE WHEN I'M GDAM GOOD AND READY!!! Lolage
Any of you boys seen an aircraft carrier round here?!
Ironically since they now take a little skill to fly, you'll be seeing a lot more goodness gracious; great balls of fire!!! |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.16 18:26:00 -
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Rhadiem wrote:It'll really be interesting to see how things look in a couple weeks and what people spend their SP on. I'm seriously doubting it'll be full-on into dropships. No way of earning SP without help (don't even get SP for spawns), massive price hike, significant SP investment.. not sure how badly I'm a glutton for punishment.
Yup. I'm going full LAV driver with the reset. |
Carilito
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
345
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Posted - 2012.08.16 18:52:00 -
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LAV is pretty damn amazing now that the drop ship got turned into a troop transport kite |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.16 19:10:00 -
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Carilito wrote:LAV is pretty damn amazing now that the drop ship got turned into a troop transport kite
Even when no one gets in a can still be useful by running people over, although i swear they've increased the speed required and reduced the hitboxes.
And of course if I kill someone EARTHQUAKE
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Dante Daedrik
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2012.08.16 19:15:00 -
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But yet since RE's were nerfed, everyone has AV grenades now. |
pjster long
Doomheim
28
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Posted - 2012.08.16 19:17:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:.
...The new ejector seat throws you into orbit.
I HAVE GOT TO SEE THIS!!!!! |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.08.16 19:17:00 -
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a lot less sky trolls.
Good. |
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Carilito
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
345
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Posted - 2012.08.16 19:29:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:a lot less sky trolls.
Good.
No lie, hunting Sky Troll with my forge gun was my favorite past time |
pjster long
Doomheim
28
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Posted - 2012.08.16 19:29:00 -
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we need fighter jets in this game... |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.16 20:05:00 -
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pjster long wrote:we need fighter jets in this game...
that would be sick. just like the scout suit of the sky, not much tank but very fast and agile, and the pilot has like blasters on it, possibly 2 seated for one co pilot |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.16 20:08:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:a lot less sky trolls.
Good.
If anything this would only encorage to dropship camping even more as parking the thing on the roof is the only reliable way to maintain presence. |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.16 20:12:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:a lot less sky trolls.
Good. If anything this would only encorage to dropship camping even more as parking the thing on the roof is the only reliable way to maintain presence.
Parking on roofs was nerfed when safe landings were removed from the game.
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SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
421
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Posted - 2012.08.16 20:14:00 -
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New Dropship mechanics FTW!
I love the new mechanics. If you take the time to learn to fly the ship you can do a lot more with it now.
If you think it is hard then it is finally good. It will separate the good pilots from the useless pilots. |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
421
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Posted - 2012.08.16 20:15:00 -
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pjster long wrote:we need fighter jets in this game... Not totally sure, but I think they are planned. That and the large mechs we can get inside of called MTAC's. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.16 22:32:00 -
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SILENTSAM 69 wrote:New Dropship mechanics FTW!
I love the new mechanics. If you take the time to learn to fly the ship you can do a lot more with it now.
If you think it is hard then it is finally good. It will separate the good pilots from the useless pilots.
Another person who hasnt read the OP.
I have learned I did rack up some kills today that where extremly hard to do.
Dropship overall efficency was basically cut to about 1/10 of its former self you cannot do nearly half of the thinds the previous dropship did in the same amount of time. |
Mitchman 514
36
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Posted - 2012.08.17 00:07:00 -
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... when the meaning of "drop" has changed to talk about the most common usage of them now. |
Adaris Manpher
70
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Posted - 2012.08.17 00:15:00 -
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Alright I am not a pilot but I am one hell of a drop ship gunner. I had to relearn gunning its different now but i got it down. So if any of you dropship pilots want a good gunner Add me on the contacts i will for sure gun for ya! |
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