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Grimm Trip
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:37:00 -
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Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:38:00 -
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must move hand faster
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Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:42:00 -
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Sensitivity isn't great, but the real problem is the turn speed hardcap - ridiculous. |
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:51:00 -
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did make my first kill with mouse , very nice. Just some tweaking to do. |
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Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:54:00 -
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So M/KB is proving no significant advantage at the moment? |
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Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:55:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Sensitivity isn't great, but the real problem is the turn speed hardcap - ridiculous.
Haven't tried it, yet, but that might be necessary to balance out the immense inherent advantage of KBM over a controller. |
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:55:00 -
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They made it so that KB/M has no advantage, and TC is complaining that he doesn't get an advantage... FFS |
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Fredreichson von Fredreich
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:00:00 -
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Yeah seriously if I can't set my dpi to 5,000 and do a 1080 headshot like counter-strike what was even the point of implementing mouse and keyboard? I want to dance around a scout with my heavy armor laughing as the dumb console pubbie can't keep up with his max sensitivity joystick
Who cares about balance |
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Etero Narciss
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:02:00 -
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Fredreichson von Fredreich wrote:Yeah seriously if I can't set my dpi to 5,000 and do a 1080 headshot like counter-strike what was even the point of implementing mouse and keyboard? I want to dance around a scout with my heavy armor laughing as the dumb console pubbie can't keep up with his max sensitivity joystick
Who cares about balance Not sure if serious, but I had a good laugh.
I'm not sure why people are complaining considering they can strafe far better. |
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:03:00 -
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Etero Narciss wrote:Fredreichson von Fredreich wrote:Yeah seriously if I can't set my dpi to 5,000 and do a 1080 headshot like counter-strike what was even the point of implementing mouse and keyboard? I want to dance around a scout with my heavy armor laughing as the dumb console pubbie can't keep up with his max sensitivity joystick
Who cares about balance Not sure if serious, but I had a good laugh. I'm not sure why people are complaining considering they can strafe far better.
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Fredreichson von Fredreich
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:15:00 -
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I'm super serious
CCP promised us months ago that they would implement a completely unbalanced mouse and keyboard system so that only players with KB/M would be competitive, and all of the losers with a controller would be forced to quit the game or play in highsec matches with other controller peasants
I bought a $150 razoer mouse with 27 buttons and a keyboard with the expectation that it would guarantee I top the scoreboard 76/0 in every match and THIS HAS NOT BEEN THE CASE! For some UNGODLY reason they have decided to OPPRESS THE KB/M USERS by giving them the SAME TURN SPEED AS A DS3 USER!
WHERE IS OUR PAID ADVANTAGE CCCP? ARE YOU GOING TO REIMBURSE US FOR OUR EXPENSIVE GAMING PERIPHERALS?
HOW COULD YOU LET THE CONSOLE GAMERS GET AWAY WITH "BALANCE"?
It is not too late to fix this transgression. All you need to do is allow raw mouse control and also give us keyboard-only console command access and perhaps let us install UE3 aimbots and change the FOV to 120
I expect to be able to headshot noobs with the speed and grace of Quake Pro by this time tomorrow
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Grimm Trip
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:16:00 -
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Haha, yeah why complain, only takes me two lengths of my desk to turn my character around.so cute how intimidated console players are by a mouse. |
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Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:23:00 -
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The whining never ceases.
Kb/M is going to take some serious tweaking, guys. This is not supposed to be a floating gun arm FPS; our characters are supposed to have mass.
Also, it's only just been implemented, and they're still working on the DS controls. Have a little faith, tweak your settings, and report your findings here. We don't have to get apoplectic over ever little thing. |
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Gilbatron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2012.08.14 22:12:00 -
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confirming things feel weird |
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IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.14 22:15:00 -
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Unlucky. |
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Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.14 22:44:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:The whining never ceases.
Kb/M is going to take some serious tweaking, guys. This is not supposed to be a floating gun arm FPS; our characters are supposed to have mass.
Also, it's only just been implemented, and they're still working on the DS controls. Have a little faith, tweak your settings, and report your findings here. We don't have to get apoplectic over ever little thing.
I have a feeling this is what they are supposed to be like, so that DS3 isn't left in the dust. |
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Volgair
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.14 22:45:00 -
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29 inches to turn my heavy suit 180 degrees at what i am assuming is 2000DPI... ok... going back to the DS3 because simply stated i don't have that much free range, even on my giant ass desk. i will say the strafing and toggling of Sprinting and general control is much smoother with the KB but the mouse needs work to be competitive with the DS3. |
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Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.14 22:53:00 -
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im gonna say it.... it feels fine. i played with both..... The ds3 controls are alot better, m/kb i think still have the edge slightly but it's not as bad as i thought. altho trying to figure out how to activate the mouse/kb and what buttons did what etc was abit mad, telling me to press triange to spawn, was like umm yeah no triangle on kb XD and was mashing 1, 2 ,3 to try and change weapon. |
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Ourors
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.08.14 22:54:00 -
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don't know what you guys are talking about, i'm currently tearing **** up with KBM.
stick to longer ranged weapons, don't try to CQC brawl with it, you turn slower than a heavy but you're INCREDIBLY accurate |
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Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.14 22:55:00 -
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Volgair wrote:29 inches to turn my heavy suit 180 degrees at what i am assuming is 2000DPI... ok... going back to the DS3 because simply stated i don't have that much free range, even on my giant ass desk. i will say the strafing and toggling of Sprinting and general control is much smoother with the KB but the mouse needs work to be competitive with the DS3.
the only solution i can think of is to allow the mouse and KB to move as fast as the player wants to go, then to have the ctr model move into position as a response. so the DS3 would be absolute movement. and the KB&M would be decision setup and response.... that's one solution but 29 inches is absurd 1 to 1.5 at most is about what it would take in most other games.
EDIT; jumped the gun on this a little bit its not bad for scout or assault suits. |
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Posted - 2012.08.14 23:08:00 -
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Gilbatron wrote:confirming things feel weird
confirming things feel weird with any game i've ever played a lot at after it's been patched.
seriously glad i check the forums before going to bed. are the servers up mid week now? anyway if they are not i'm working overtime so i get friday off. |
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Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.15 02:35:00 -
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a mouse was never said to overcome the inherent slow turn speed of different dropsuits.
Try the scout suit if you want to turn fastest.
I believe the mouse will be best at fine aiming, not godlike snap turns. |
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Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.15 02:55:00 -
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Rhadiem wrote:a mouse was never said to overcome the inherent slow turn speed of different dropsuits.
Try the scout suit if you want to turn fastest.
I believe the mouse will be best at fine aiming, not godlike snap turns. Turn speed is absolute ****, the suit type doesn't matter. Basically, unless you're sniping, KBM is currently at an extreme disadvantage. Sure it's got better precision in it's little "aim box", but if you want to aim at someone longer than 2 seconds while they're running, you better be ready to run your mouse 4 feet across your desk. |
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Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.15 10:02:00 -
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Adapt or die m&kb users! They're fnding out that it takes more skill to use a ds3 controller BECAUSE of the imput handicap |
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Grimm Trip
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.15 10:32:00 -
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Kbm is useless for anything other than long range sniping, and even then players can run out of your scope faster than you can track them.
Just ignore d3 trolling, ill be feasting on their tears when turn speed is boosted. Get them in while you can. |
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Posted - 2012.08.15 10:48:00 -
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lol why do you think CCP would let you have a advantage with KB/M, when it's on ps3 you fools. your going to have the same turn speed as DS3 to even it out lol. i'm happy with this because you have all told me that it's not KB/M you like, it's the advantage of speed you get with it lol. i play DS3 because i feel apart of the game with it, not because it gives me an advantage.
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Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.15 10:50:00 -
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Just make it balanced. |
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Posted - 2012.08.15 10:53:00 -
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4447 wrote:lol why do you think CCP would let you have a advantage with KB/M, when it's on ps3 you fools. your going to have the same turn speed as DS3 to even it out lol. i'm happy with this because you have all told me that it's not KB/M you like, it's the advantage of speed you get with it lol. i play DS3 because i feel apart of the game with it, not because it gives me an advantage.
All were asking for is the same turn speed as a ds3. Don't call people fools when you can't even read before you post. |
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ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.15 11:03:00 -
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Grimm Trip wrote:4447 wrote:lol why do you think CCP would let you have a advantage with KB/M, when it's on ps3 you fools. your going to have the same turn speed as DS3 to even it out lol. i'm happy with this because you have all told me that it's not KB/M you like, it's the advantage of speed you get with it lol. i play DS3 because i feel apart of the game with it, not because it gives me an advantage.
All were asking for is the same turn speed as a ds3. Don't call people fools when you can't even read before you post.
you are fools, always complaining about KB/M. if CCP fix the KB/M then you will ask them for more turning speed your never happy unless your got an advantage. |
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Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.15 11:15:00 -
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felt about the same turn speed as my ds3 when i was using it. no way should mkb be able to turn faster than ds3. i was using a assault suit tho, i'll try heavy ds3 and heavy m/kb when i can. |
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