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Zarukei
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:08:00 -
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I was a Playstation Plus subscriber well before the mercenary pack was put in the store for 20. Now they are putting a 50% discount on it, I feel cheated now because of it. Have they said anything about reimbursing this to people who have spent the full price on it?
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/13/dust-514-beta-headed-to-playstation-plus |
Mmkk333
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:12:00 -
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Prices change. |
Jimbeezy
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:13:00 -
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It happens bro. Nothing to be mad about. Price drops happen all the time. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:14:00 -
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This is way different though, this is a product that hasn't been delivered yet. I am probably going to have to mail PSN about this. |
Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:18:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:This is way different though, this is a product that hasn't been delivered yet. I am probably going to have to mail PSN about this.
You should. I always like a good laugh at work...... |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:20:00 -
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Drommy Hood wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:This is way different though, this is a product that hasn't been delivered yet. I am probably going to have to mail PSN about this. You should. I always like a good laugh at work......
Your comment makes no sense. |
Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:25:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Drommy Hood wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:This is way different though, this is a product that hasn't been delivered yet. I am probably going to have to mail PSN about this. You should. I always like a good laugh at work...... Your comment makes no sense.
Im just saying, people whining always gives me a giggle |
Winscar Shinobi
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:25:00 -
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Except this is nothing more than a slap in the face to people that bought it already (most of which are ps+ members)
So in other words: **** move CCP. |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:31:00 -
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Buy it for the ten bucks. You will have two 30 day boosters. 8,000 Aur, and you can sell the extra dropsuit/smg for a shitload of isk/aur. It won't hurt you in the long run. It is a good deal! |
Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:32:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:Except this is nothing more than a slap in the face to people that bought it already (most of which are ps+ members)
So in other words: **** move CCP.
Lol, see I'm giggling
Just think of the bonus you've had in beta too though! LOL
No but seriously, you bought it to get in the beta, or to support the beta, either way your getting your moneys worth. If you bought it to get a head in the BETA then lol |
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Ad ski
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:33:00 -
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I doubt they will do anything. People have often brought things only for them to be released on PS+ not long after. |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:40:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:This is way different though, this is a product that hasn't been delivered yet. I am probably going to have to mail PSN about this.
Let's say I am part of a club for a shooting range. It gives me discounts on range prices. They sell ammo and guns as well. I buy a gun and love it very much. Now let's say they start to give discounts to people in the club for that gun. I'll feel cheated, but it's perfectly lawful. |
Winscar Shinobi
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:42:00 -
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Except you forget now that consumer confidence will be crushed, I know now I'll refuse to buy anything from CCP, if several others do the same CCP will have to ***** out and lower the price because everyone won't buy anything expecting a price drop.
It happened to the 3DS. They had to cut the price because people wouldn't buy it. It was a slap to the consumer, so to apologize they gave them free games.
But now the vita releases and the first thing out of the majorities mouth is "I'm not getting it until the price drop" people expect now that if they refuse to buy a product, it will force the price down and they'll buy it then.
Same principle here. If we refuse to buy any more packs from CCP they will have to lower the price.
Aka with this move it shows that CCP has lost consumer confidence and is trying to get it back.
In short. They sold crap for merc packs so they are screwing over those who JUST bought it to try and get new people to buy it. |
Pombe Geek
Red Star.
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:42:00 -
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Ad ski wrote:I doubt they will do anything. People have often brought things only for them to be released on PS+ not long after.
This.
There's nothing in the PSN or Plus agreement that states they price match if you buy something and it later becomes discounted. It's life, learn to deal with it.
On a side note, think of it as the price has been reduced because those that buy it now haven't had the PRIVILEGE to play in the beta as long as you have.
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Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:44:00 -
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It's called a sale. It's not uncommon at all to buy something and then see it massively drop in price a month or two after it comes out! As for being 'Undelivered' this cannot be said at all unless you have not recieved or used any of the merc pack aurum or items. It doesn't matter if it'll be reimbursed later. You've gotten and used your product that you paid for.
Pretty much no company out there will listen to people who come back and complain that something they bought ages ago just went on sale. Some companies do offer a 7 day "Price change promise" or so that if the price drops they'll refund you the difference... but I highly doubt PSN will offer such a deal. Either way, It's a sale. A sale for 10$. If you honestly care that much about 10$..... I don't even know. You bought your stuff, you're here. You're testing a game that could be the start of something truly amazing. What's there to complain about? I would've paid 40$ for the merc pack. |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:45:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:Except you forget now that consumer confidence will be crushed, I know now I'll refuse to buy anything from CCP, if several others do the same CCP will have to ***** out and lower the price because everyone won't buy anything expecting a price drop.
It happened to the 3DS. They had to cut the price because people wouldn't buy it. It was a slap to the consumer, so to apologize they gave them free games.
But now the vita releases and the first thing out of the majorities mouth is "I'm not getting it until the price drop" people expect now that if they refuse to buy a product, it will force the price down and they'll buy it then.
Same principle here. If we refuse to buy any more packs from CCP they will have to lower the price.
Aka with this move it shows that CCP has lost consumer confidence and is trying to get it back.
In short. They sold crap for merc packs so they are screwing over those who JUST bought it to try and get new people to buy it.
See here's the problem. CCP can have no sales for Dust and still make thousands of dollars in profit for their company. They have EVE for income. |
Noc Tempre
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:46:00 -
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Debacle Nano wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:This is way different though, this is a product that hasn't been delivered yet. I am probably going to have to mail PSN about this. Let's say I am part of a club for a shooting range. It gives me discounts on range prices. They sell ammo and guns as well. I buy a gun and love it very much. Now let's say they start to give discounts to people in the club for that gun. I'll feel cheated, but it's perfectly lawful.
You do realize I am a customer that already invested in AUR and PS+ and had full beta access? The pack is for items delivered at launch. Getting versions of them during beta doesn't constitute delivery since they are still subject to change dramatically. It's not that I'm going to get outraged, but I'm not going to ignore the fact that I paid a different price for an identical SKU based on time of purchase before delivery, and got nothing additional out of it. |
Pombe Geek
Red Star.
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:46:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:
Same principle here. If we refuse to buy any more packs from CCP they will have to lower the price.
Or they'll quit supporting the game since no one would be supporting it. Remember CCP is a company looking to make a profit. If you enjoy what they produce (Eve and Dust) then pay, if you don't, then don't play. Simple economics.
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Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:49:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:This is way different though, this is a product that hasn't been delivered yet. I am probably going to have to mail PSN about this. Let's say I am part of a club for a shooting range. It gives me discounts on range prices. They sell ammo and guns as well. I buy a gun and love it very much. Now let's say they start to give discounts to people in the club for that gun. I'll feel cheated, but it's perfectly lawful. You do realize I am a customer that already invested in AUR and PS+ and had full beta access. The pack is for items delivered at launch. Getting versions of them during beta doesn't constitute delivery since they are still subject to change dramatically. It's not that I'm going to get outraged, but I'm not going to ignore the fact that I paid a different price for an identical SKU based on time of purchase before delivery, and got nothing additional out of it.
That's how the market acts. Anyone can change their price at any time.You also still have what you paid for at that time. |
Noc Tempre
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:51:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:It's called a sale. It's not uncommon at all to buy something and then see it massively drop in price a month or two after it comes out! As for being 'Undelivered' this cannot be said at all unless you have not recieved or used any of the merc pack aurum or items. It doesn't matter if it'll be reimbursed later. You've gotten and used your product that you paid for.
Pretty much no company out there will listen to people who come back and complain that something they bought ages ago just went on sale. Some companies do offer a 7 day "Price change promise" or so that if the price drops they'll refund you the difference... but I highly doubt PSN will offer such a deal. Either way, It's a sale. A sale for 10$. If you honestly care that much about 10$..... I don't even know. You bought your stuff, you're here. You're testing a game that could be the start of something truly amazing. What's there to complain about? I would've paid 40$ for the merc pack.
Principal, not amount. It is undelivered, beta items are not the product we paid for, and CCP was very explicit that it is not even possible to have to pay to test things. Why are you so offended that I am not happy that I basically donated $10 to Sony for being an earlier adopter? |
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tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:53:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:Except this is nothing more than a slap in the face to people that bought it already (most of which are ps+ members)
So in other words: **** move CCP. Blame Sony bro, not ccp. The same **** happened with bf3 and b2k, 'preorder bf3 and get b2k free', then dice go and slap those people in the face with y offering it with premium which meant that those who didn't already own b2k and bought premium .........got a better deal than those who did own b2k and bought premium. It happens |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:55:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Winscar Shinobi wrote:Except this is nothing more than a slap in the face to people that bought it already (most of which are ps+ members)
So in other words: **** move CCP. Blame Sony bro, not ccp. The same **** happened with bf3 and b2k, 'preorder bf3 and get b2k free', then dice go and slap those people in the face with y offering it with premium which meant that those who didn't already own b2k and bought premium .........got a better deal than those who did own b2k and bought premium. It happens
The better comparison is if they took preorders on premium, and then a week before they gave it to you they dropped the price, but early adopters were price locked anyway. It's a digital item, there is no consumer benefit to ordering earlier, so it is very backwards to overcharge that group. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:58:00 -
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@ Noc : I am not offended. I am perplexed!
If you buy something early you are -always- going to pay more than later down the road. It makes no sense to be upset about it. I'm astounded at the self-entitled posts here from several people who I thought were pretty logical people and above such things. You paid for something, you got what you paid for. It then went on sale later on. It's that simple. There is no great injustice here. There is no problem. I spent just as much money on this as you did, if not more... and I am not upset. I have also bought several individual aurum packs in addition to the merc pack. I also subscribed to PS+ since last december ever since the initial survey for Dust514 came out. Was I 'Cheated' because CCP mentioned PS+ and then I was subscribed for two months before I ever got a key? Not really.
It's a sale, people. Sales happen in business when people want to sell their product. Grow up and move on. |
Winscar Shinobi
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Posted - 2012.08.13 22:01:00 -
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It's not really anything to do with the price.
It's about showing a little bit of respect and thanks to your most dedicated followers.
And the difference between this getting a sale so insanely early compared to most games is that retailers decide sales for games, retailers that almost ALL have a price garuntee so you can get your money back if an item goes on sale. Since this was a choice by the developer to lower the price for a sale, it's a lot more personal.
It also is as noc says. The item we purchased has no value until the game launches, so until the game launches, it is considered a pre-order, which means in the case of a price changed, it should be for everyone who had pre-ordered the goods, which hold no value until release.
But really mostly about forgoing your dedicated following in order to make more money in a short time.
Of course we will always have the fanboys (most of the time blind fanboys) that say "well I would pay 5x the amount for this!" which is a load of crap. |
Winscar Shinobi
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Posted - 2012.08.13 22:05:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Winscar Shinobi wrote:Except this is nothing more than a slap in the face to people that bought it already (most of which are ps+ members)
So in other words: **** move CCP. Blame Sony bro, not ccp. The same **** happened with bf3 and b2k, 'preorder bf3 and get b2k free', then dice go and slap those people in the face with y offering it with premium which meant that those who didn't already own b2k and bought premium .........got a better deal than those who did own b2k and bought premium. It happens
Except price is determined by the publisher, in this case CCP.
So you agree with me without even knowing you did. |
Mmkk333
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.13 22:06:00 -
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What you don't understand is that the Plus members are getting access for FREE, and the normally $19.99 priced pack has dropped because now the most important part of the pack, the access pass, has been removed, they are JUST getting the AUR, and the few in-game items. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.13 22:08:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:@ Noc : I am not offended. I am perplexed!
If you buy something early you are -always- going to pay more than later down the road. It makes no sense to be upset about it. I'm astounded at the self-entitled posts here from several people who I thought were pretty logical people and above such things. You paid for something, you got what you paid for. It then went on sale later on. It's that simple. There is no great injustice here. There is no problem. I spent just as much money on this as you did, if not more... and I am not upset. I have also bought several individual aurum packs in addition to the merc pack. I also subscribed to PS+ since last december ever since the initial survey for Dust514 came out. Was I 'Cheated' because CCP mentioned PS+ and then I was subscribed for two months before I ever got a key? Not really.
It's a sale, people. Sales happen in business when people want to sell their product. Grow up and move on.
You are oversimplifying. It is a sale on a preorder of a digital (read not supply limited) item that hasn't launched yet. I am not saying I am entitled to my money back. I am just saying it is not as clear cut to not demand investigation into the matter. |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2012.08.13 22:13:00 -
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I remember alot of members were pretty blunt on a subject similar to this.
Remember when 4,000 aur cost twenty bucks? Right after the Merc Bundle came for 20 bucks with the 4,000 aur+goodies.
The people who bought the 4,000 aur felt cheated. The lot of you were like too bad so sad, especially the merc pack buyers. Saying buyers remorse etc.
Well...Karmas sucks eh? |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.13 22:14:00 -
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i have a friend who bought team fortress 2 from steam not even a week before it went free.
did he feel cheated? yes
did he whine like a child? no
these things happen. |
Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.13 22:17:00 -
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The games free anyway quit cryin |
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