what no more squish ships? Cool maybe i get now the chance to survive a active AV role without getting squished by a mad tank driver which sagaris ive blew up. Another thing is i dont trust any 1 whos flying a viper or a gorgon. Most of the time the ship crashes or gets stright shot down cause cpt. moron (militia dropship pilot) decided to hover 2m over a forgegunner or jumps out of it when he reaches his desired target destination. Cause of this reason i have 1 eye 24/7 at the shield/armor display and if some 1 is in the pilot seat. Cant tell how many times i had to emergency eject myself out of one of those flying coffins.

You hear wrong. Nothing in the notes about swarm launcher pathing I can see.

New dropship physics model

Vehicles now take continual armour damage once they catch on fire.

Fixes to dropship collision so more damage is taken on contact with the environment.

Increased the relative price of dropships

Reduced movement penalty on forge gun slightly

AV grenades now have homing functionality implemented; they will auto-target the nearest enemy vehicle within seek range


I loved my Eryx. It was already hard enough to fly since I didn't make enough money flying it to PAY for it, and since I can't see where the hell I'm being hit from by Forge Guns because the trails only show up 10% of the time and when they do they don't have enough particles so its only a dozen blue sprites spread over hundreds of metres.

I'm going to focus 100% on LAVs when the patch comes around because dropships are nothing but flying deathtraps, and I don't want to get half my team killed in one forge gun barrage that costs me more than I will make in the match.

come in to my ship then, last time i had voice with my gunner he ended up with a k/d of 24/O even though we lost the ship two times

To lay down suppressing fire, gunners need to be able to target things. That means dropship needs to be NOT MOVING. Not moving means I suddenly get dropped by 3 forge guns whose trails I can't even see.

Also, drop squads where? Sounds like it had better be wide open so I don't get taken out by a lamp post.

If dropships were as op as you claim people might actually fly them instead of sitting them on towers.

As a dropship pilot I could not be happier. I will still crush you all

Really tho this might even add some skill to flying them and as for the AV nades lol gona be fun

I was one of the militia squishers.
I became exceedingly good at it and it filled me with much joy.
I came to love the controls and was quite good at dodging and avoiding weapon fire or structures.
I understand it was quite silly and needed a change in some way.

The fact that it was free (militia suit and militia viper and modules) is worth changing.
The fact that you often take very little damage from bumping into things is a good thing to change.

The control change is horrendous. The fact that the very first thing that happened after hopping into my first viper with this patch was to get it permanently stuck on its side should not happen. Sure I was still used to the old controls, but even after figuring out about how it works, i consider the new controls inferior in everything except for flipping and crashing.
Moving forward ranges from very slow cautious advancement to a short startup time followed by charging forward and downward in an almost or completely unrecoverable dive that's bound to crash into the ground or something sooner.
I don't expect the gunner is able to aim very well with the ship swaying back and forth as much as it is.

summary: most of the changes are perfectly fine and necessary. The control change is not good.
(I did really love the original controls so this is probably slightly biased but I think I still bring some good points)

IMO the main problem is that the controls only tilt the ship, no matter what the main engines are doing.

My fix? For controls, make the right stick up/down "vector" the engines, allowing us to cancel our forward/backward momentum or add to it as needed. That can be the ONLY change for controls, and i'll be fine.

For squish, we shouldn't be taking ANY damage for a gentle touchdown. The threshold for this zero-damage should be VERY low, like 1 Km/h.
But when we reach squish-velocity, both damage and destabilize the ship, forcing the pilot to correct himself.

Aw. Sounds like someones upset they cant fly around squashing people anymore for cheap COd type kills. Tear.

No more cheap squish kills seems great

i support all of this except for the fire damage.

which i wouldn't mind (it works fine in battlefield 3) but there's 2 entirely different schools of tanking and repairing. what's a guy with a shield transporter gonna do?

It actually makes it easier. Allows people to get in the crevices by turning the ship on it's side.