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Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.10 03:31:00 -
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New dropship physics model
Vehicles now take continual armour damage once they catch on fire.
Fixes to dropship collision so more damage is taken on contact with the environment.
Increased the relative price of dropships
Reduced movement penalty on forge gun slightly
AV grenades now have homing functionality implemented; they will auto-target the nearest enemy vehicle within seek range
I loved my Eryx. It was already hard enough to fly since I didn't make enough money flying it to PAY for it, and since I can't see where the hell I'm being hit from by Forge Guns because the trails only show up 10% of the time and when they do they don't have enough particles so its only a dozen blue sprites spread over hundreds of metres.
I'm going to focus 100% on LAVs when the patch comes around because dropships are nothing but flying deathtraps, and I don't want to get half my team killed in one forge gun barrage that costs me more than I will make in the match. |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.10 03:37:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Source?
Precursor patch notes.
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Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.10 03:45:00 -
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crazy space wrote:um... I'm pretty sure that's a drop ship buff my friend
physics: can't tell until live (but I really liked the old physics)
fire armor damage: dropships are arguably the hardest to get to relative safety to rep (this is also making things even better for armor tanking at the expense of shield tanking
dropship collision damage: BALANCED damage I could understand, at the moment you can squish people for no penalty and clip a lamp post for instant death, INCREASING damage means that supporting ground troops at objectives will be almost impossible
relative price: I'm lucky if I'm flying my dropship to make enough money in a match to buy 1 restock. If I fly my Eryx and keep it alive the whole match (which is very difficult) I make a profit. Otherwise it costs me more than it makes. Now it will be worse.
forge gun agility: its already damn near impossible to detect the source and avoid forge guns, now worse because they have greater mobility
where buff?
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Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.10 03:51:00 -
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Buzzwords wrote:i support all of this except for the fire damage.
which i wouldn't mind (it works fine in battlefield 3) but there's 2 entirely different schools of tanking and repairing. what's a guy with a shield transporter gonna do?
Slowly burn to death while screaming for reps over comms that never come. |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.10 03:59:00 -
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Rhadiem wrote:I can fly an Eryx too, and I don't see this as a nerf at this point.
It could very well be the dropship physics model could be an agility/handling boost.
The price increase is across the board, and fine if it's worth it.
Forge guns are horribly slow, and essentially fixed turrets. It doesn't mean they hit any harder, just can move a little better.
The main thing is flames causing damage, which is logical, but not the way I wanted them to deal with "just barely alive" shield ships. This actually makes armor repping vehicles better since they can fix the flames.. but makes shield tanking pilots rely on repair guns and such to fix things.
FWIW- My Eryx dropships can take at least 3 proto FG hits before dying, assuming I don't turn on my shield repper. If yours can only take one hit, you may want to check our support skills or fit design. They're no tanks, but they're highly dependent on how you set them up.
Shield Management and Operation V, Adaptation and Upgrades III
Eryx
C3-L Shield Booster
F45 Peri. Damage Control
Supp. Shield Amp
Azeotropic Ward Shield Ext.
2 x Local Power Diag
2 x XT - 1 Missile Turret
223/225 cpu 302/308 pg
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Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.10 04:00:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Old physics were broken. Dropships were much cheaper than tanks. The new physics will probably help you out.
Like I said, I liked the old physics. Dropships SHOULD be cheaper than tanks. You never see a single dropship camping the enemy spawn for half a match but I've seen plenty of Sagaris doing it.
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Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.10 10:56:00 -
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i forgot the new av grenades... better add that in...
Grenades are not supposed to be effective AA weapons. |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.10 10:59:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:The new physics makes them much more responsive and agile. You can actually dodge swarm launchers with a dropship now! (And I mean -dodge- not fly around at full speed and never get hit. You won't be able to do that anymore!)
Or so I hear.
You hear wrong. Nothing in the notes about swarm launcher pathing I can see.
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Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.10 11:02:00 -
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Mr TamiyaCowboy wrote:
drop ship?
drop of squads and gtfo while supressing fire on incoming targets.
NOT, squish players and fly around a break neck speed with a worry of anything hitting you.
exploiting the speed to go outta bounds and regen shield etc etc. spam spawn sites, hacking points.
bellyflop onto towers, smash into the ground and squish tanks and shizzle.
they needed nerfing, because you the players exploit them. ccp sees huge data spikes in snazzy graphs and,
they click a few BRNB ( big red nerf buttons ).
whats next , hmmmmm me thinks TANKS
To lay down suppressing fire, gunners need to be able to target things. That means dropship needs to be NOT MOVING. Not moving means I suddenly get dropped by 3 forge guns whose trails I can't even see.
Also, drop squads where? Sounds like it had better be wide open so I don't get taken out by a lamp post.
If dropships were as op as you claim people might actually fly them instead of sitting them on towers.
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Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.16 02:28:00 -
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Called it. |
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Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.16 03:14:00 -
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Vehicle shake is retardly stupid. Running over someone in an LAV makes your screen shake like you're in an exploding volcano. |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.16 04:39:00 -
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LT Dans Legs wrote:Aw. Sounds like someones upset they cant fly around squashing people anymore for cheap COd type kills. Tear.
Sounds like someone is butthurt they couldnt avoid the obvious flying boxes.
Were you sniping from the tops of the towers like a noob?
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