I once joined Soki in the hope of becoming a real life spy, but all they did all day was play strip poker on skype.

Do not recommend as they weren't any good-looking, even when compared to most basement nerds.

The GHSC has no interest in your petty squabbles peasant

Who or what Soki is shouldnGÇÖt be the least of your concerns, you will see little mention of who or what they are in New Eden if you tried looking, they don't exist as a corp., they donGÇÖt have a forum, they certainly donGÇÖt have a kill board, and they can certainly destroy most corporations when in the mood without firing a single shot and worst of all they don't leave calling cards or brag about doing specifc jobs.

Adding to that, this is the last official Soki statement to be made from this vessel. This vessel was compromised and is being punished for such. Should Soki believe it is in their best interest to contact you or your clan directly for its survival another vessel will be made available for that specific task and never again. This vessel is also restricted from answering questions specifically concerning this matter but is allowed to give broad answers to allow for best flexibility and test of your own intelligence to formulate how best fit the answer to your needs.

None the less the main concern especially those outside of New Eden migrating in is the disturbing number of spies already trying to get recruited and alliance agents and counter intelligence groups buzzing with orders to infiltrate as many dust 514 interested organizations as possible.

Treat all new clan members from other games in the last 4 months with suspect, especially any new members that joined when your organization first started showing interest for Dust 514. Monitor their behavior closely as itGÇÖs the farthest back the 'buzz' has been heard. It is possible bolder individuals have implanted themselves up to two years before, strong MAG clans are likely target victims from that time.

Start officially appointing Counter Intelligence Officers.

Start Drafting Counter Intelligence Doctrines.

Start drafting stricter recruiting requirements outside the normal kill efficiency.


39 minutes

Be paranoid of who you give control of your corporationGÇÖs assets to. This includes web presence of any sort; speak servers, even recruiting outlets and leadership positions. It would not surprise Soki if some of the second in charge are agents working against your clan.

Learn how to spot 'suspicious' activity in a corporation member.

Trim out the trash, anyone on long absence of leave without reason should be removed.

Those that give excuses should be monitored closely as well.

Finally begin your own intelligence program to preempt strike back before the game even launches.

Remember,

Divert
Instigate
Lie
Encryption
Consume
Leak
Divide
Confuse
Paralyze

Those who embrace the nine tales of Soki will be the bane of anyone not deserving to continue. To those who have yet experienced what it is like to wake up only to lose everything you ever did, there is no greater breaking point for a corporation than to shatter a corporation into thousands of pieces and not a single bullet, missile, ship, armada, army, or number of skill points could have stopped it, and knowing it as you helplessly watch it all get torn apart.

It can happen, it will happen expect it to happen, prepare, preplan, preempt.

There is a reason why this video exists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0I
Don't think too long about it and start thinking how to save your clan starting now.
You're already 300+ confirmed ID'd agents behind and thatGÇÖs usually a small fraction of actual headcounts.

If you want a simple test on how to rate yourself on getting counter intelligence give yourself 1 hr to find out this character's Eve Online counter part. All the information you need is contained in this post.

Yeah I'm sure it's meant to be funny... just makes me less interested in playin. An dislike EvEtards more.

Yeah I'm sure it's meant to be funny... just makes me less interested in playin. An dislike EvEtards more.

Who or what Soki is shouldnGÇÖt be the least of your concerns, you will see little mention of who or what they are in New Eden if you tried looking, they don't exist as a corp., they donGÇÖt have a forum, they certainly donGÇÖt have a kill board, and they can certainly destroy most corporations when in the mood without firing a single shot and worst of all they don't leave calling cards or brag about doing specifc jobs.

Adding to that, this is the last official Soki statement to be made from this vessel. This vessel was compromised and is being punished for such. Should Soki believe it is in their best interest to contact you or your clan directly for its survival another vessel will be made available for that specific task and never again. This vessel is also restricted from answering questions specifically concerning this matter but is allowed to give broad answers to allow for best flexibility and test of your own intelligence to formulate how best fit the answer to your needs.

None the less the main concern especially those outside of New Eden migrating in is the disturbing number of spies already trying to get recruited and alliance agents and counter intelligence groups buzzing with orders to infiltrate as many dust 514 interested organizations as possible.

Treat all new clan members from other games in the last 4 months with suspect, especially any new members that joined when your organization first started showing interest for Dust 514. Monitor their behavior closely as itGÇÖs the farthest back the 'buzz' has been heard. It is possible bolder individuals have implanted themselves up to two years before, strong MAG clans are likely target victims from that time.

Start officially appointing Counter Intelligence Officers.

Start Drafting Counter Intelligence Doctrines.

Start drafting stricter recruiting requirements outside the normal kill efficiency.

Be paranoid of who you give control of your corporationGÇÖs assets to. This includes web presence of any sort; speak servers, even recruiting outlets and leadership positions. It would not surprise Soki if some of the second in charge are agents working against your clan.

Learn how to spot 'suspicious' activity in a corporation member.

Trim out the trash, anyone on long absence of leave without reason should be removed.

Those that give excuses should be monitored closely as well.

Finally begin your own intelligence program to preempt strike back before the game even launches.

Remember,

Divert
Instigate
Lie
Encryption
Consume
Leak
Divide
Confuse
Paralyze

Those who embrace the nine tales of Soki will be the bane of anyone not deserving to continue. To those who have yet experienced what it is like to wake up only to lose everything you ever did, there is no greater breaking point for a corporation than to shatter a corporation into thousands of pieces and not a single bullet, missile, ship, armada, army, or number of skill points could have stopped it, and knowing it as you helplessly watch it all get torn apart.

It can happen, it will happen expect it to happen, prepare, preplan, preempt.

There is a reason why this video exists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0I
Don't think too long about it and start thinking how to save your clan starting now.
You're already 300+ confirmed ID'd agents behind and thatGÇÖs usually a small fraction of actual headcounts.

If you want a simple test on how to rate yourself on getting counter intelligence give yourself 1 hr to find out this character's Eve Online counter part. All the information you need is contained in this post.

I'm sure you'll be able to play the game fine without being personally involved in these kind of politics and fair play to you but you will prob need to join a corps at some point to enjoy game to it's fullest extent and they will be affected by it all without a doubt so it will impact on you in a secondary way, even if it just dictates which contracts you fight for

I'll just explain why...
1.) our community sucks. We're pretty agreed on that.
2.) no player corps at release (CSM notes)
3.) it seems that people don't want t give the game time to sort itself. The spies idea simply encourages lone wolves, and pub stars.

There's so much competition, I just don't see how people can try so hard to make people NOT play.

I belong to a really cool community playing dust so I reckon there is hope on that score! lol
no player corps at release does suck big time and I suppose I have to just have faith that there are good reasons for it, I believe there will be ad hoc group formation tho so we should be able to play with "corps mates"
I agree with you on point 3 too, there are too many doomsayers and griefers all chucking their 3 pennies worth in, most with their own agendas of some sort but that is, like it or not, part of what being in the New Eden universe is all about, there is no getting away from it and as Dust players we will have to hit it head on and make a place for ourselves. If you think it's bad now, wait till we starting messing with null sec for real!! lol

Who or what Soki is shouldnGÇÖt be the least of your concerns, you will see little mention of who or what they are in New Eden if you tried looking, they don't exist as a corp., they donGÇÖt have a forum, they certainly donGÇÖt have a kill board, and they can certainly destroy most corporations when in the mood without firing a single shot and worst of all they don't leave calling cards or brag about doing specifc jobs.

Adding to that, this is the last official Soki statement to be made from this vessel. This vessel was compromised and is being punished for such. Should Soki believe it is in their best interest to contact you or your clan directly for its survival another vessel will be made available for that specific task and never again. This vessel is also restricted from answering questions specifically concerning this matter but is allowed to give broad answers to allow for best flexibility and test of your own intelligence to formulate how best fit the answer to your needs.

None the less the main concern especially those outside of New Eden migrating in is the disturbing number of spies already trying to get recruited and alliance agents and counter intelligence groups buzzing with orders to infiltrate as many dust 514 interested organizations as possible.

Treat all new clan members from other games in the last 4 months with suspect, especially any new members that joined when your organization first started showing interest for Dust 514. Monitor their behavior closely as itGÇÖs the farthest back the 'buzz' has been heard. It is possible bolder individuals have implanted themselves up to two years before, strong MAG clans are likely target victims from that time.

Start officially appointing Counter Intelligence Officers.

Start Drafting Counter Intelligence Doctrines.

Start drafting stricter recruiting requirements outside the normal kill efficiency.

Be paranoid of who you give control of your corporationGÇÖs assets to. This includes web presence of any sort; speak servers, even recruiting outlets and leadership positions. It would not surprise Soki if some of the second in charge are agents working against your clan.

Learn how to spot 'suspicious' activity in a corporation member.

Trim out the trash, anyone on long absence of leave without reason should be removed.

Those that give excuses should be monitored closely as well.

Finally begin your own intelligence program to preempt strike back before the game even launches.

Remember,

Divert
Instigate
Lie
Encryption
Consume
Leak
Divide
Confuse
Paralyze

Those who embrace the nine tales of Soki will be the bane of anyone not deserving to continue. To those who have yet experienced what it is like to wake up only to lose everything you ever did, there is no greater breaking point for a corporation than to shatter a corporation into thousands of pieces and not a single bullet, missile, ship, armada, army, or number of skill points could have stopped it, and knowing it as you helplessly watch it all get torn apart.

It can happen, it will happen expect it to happen, prepare, preplan, preempt.

There is a reason why this video exists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0I
Don't think too long about it and start thinking how to save your clan starting now.
You're already 300+ confirmed ID'd agents behind and thatGÇÖs usually a small fraction of actual headcounts.

If you want a simple test on how to rate yourself on getting counter intelligence give yourself 1 hr to find out this character's Eve Online counter part. All the information you need is contained in this post.

that all nice
but umm wont we have to wait till 0.0 is out?

You're already 300+ confirmed ID'd agents behind and thatGÇÖs usually a small fraction of actual headcount.

A classic example of the masturbationary post. Full of grandiose claims and self reverence. Followed by an example of how we all fail next to posters awesome epicness. Being the only one with an "i win button" all us plebs should just suzy side outta here.

It's not to say there are no valid points in the post, but the tone ... undermines everything said.

There is a reason why this video exists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0I

Pathetic. This doesn't help EvE & console player become a community. Stupid post, doesn't relate to Dust.

Post my EvE chars name. From my trial. In an hour. Well off you go. Sad act spy boy.

Start officially appointing Counter Intelligence Officers.

Start Drafting Counter Intelligence Doctrines.

Start drafting stricter recruiting requirements outside the normal kill efficiency.

Be paranoid of who you give control of your corporationGÇÖs assets to. This includes web presence of any sort; speak servers, even recruiting outlets and leadership positions. It would not surprise Soki if some of the second in charge are agents working against your clan.

Learn how to spot 'suspicious' activity in a corporation member.

Trim out the trash, anyone on long absence of leave without reason should be removed.

Those that give excuses should be monitored closely as well.

Finally begin your own intelligence program to preempt strike back before the game even launches.

Remember,

Divert
Instigate
Lie
Encryption
Consume
Leak
Divide
Confuse
Paralyze

everyone does have their own agenda the difference between us and soki are that our agendas consist of things like giving feedback on the game and enjoying ourselves for as long as we can.

goodluck to soki.

and if they are so good at spying tell me what my eve name is?

Adding to that, this is the last official Soki statement to be made from this vessel. This vessel was compromised and is being punished for such. Should Soki believe it is in their best interest to contact you or your clan directly for its survival another vessel will be made available for that specific task and never again. This vessel is also restricted from answering questions specifically concerning this matter but is allowed to give broad answers to allow for best flexibility and test of your own intelligence to formulate how best fit the answer to your needs.

people take this **** way too seriously.

people take this **** way too seriously.

No Proto it's true and you know it. Think of the MAG players who went to EvE and are already in cushy little corps (oh wait, yiu EvEtards didnt think this would work both ways?) I'll go play a decent shooter once one comes out. Stuff Dust, filled with people who don't want to play an FPS, just ruin it for others. I just can't be bothered with it all. Like you say Proto, these his take EvE so seriously they're willin to jepodise the game before it comes out. Like I say, when a good shooter comes out, I'll play that.
Damn I just wish there were other FPS common out... Especially MMO ones on PC...

It's ok Iron. The fact is the game will not be a "AAA FPS moment to moment console title" which is what CCP wanted to do. Mostly because of EvE players and their sad little agendas. Dust=fail. Thanks for opening my eyes.

I know... I unfourtunately didnt take is seriously enough and now I can't reliably join any competent allaince becuase of it. Talk about screwups that follow you ingame for years.

Its like if they invite me its to watch me and monitor what I do to see if they can catch any other members of the soki group which clearly has been doing thier best to keep thier distance from me. Then anyone else with a good counter intel program would already have me red flagged.

Im surpsized they tapped me this early... which makes me think someone else from soki got caught finally and hes the new wippin boy.

Baaaaaaaaahaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaa!

You pay for a game that your someones whipping boy

Baaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaa!

I cant take another thing you ever post seriously again.
Seriously grow a pair. Or start a new character for dust at least
Or do you just enjoy being their whipping boy.

I don't like reading. :[

Especially fanboy dribble like this.

Posting in 514's first tinfoil hat thread.

Maybe you should change your name from Iron Wolf Sabre to Fluffy Kitten Spork.

Since meta gaming is so scary and urgent for you.

Keep laughing. Dont make a tear thread a year or two from now.

Who or what Soki is shouldnGÇÖt be the least of your concerns, you will see little mention of who or what they are in New Eden if you tried looking, they don't exist as a corp., they donGÇÖt have a forum, they certainly donGÇÖt have a kill board, and they can certainly destroy most corporations when in the mood without firing a single shot and worst of all they don't leave calling cards or brag about doing specifc jobs.

Adding to that, this is the last official Soki statement to be made from this vessel. This vessel was compromised and is being punished for such. Should Soki believe it is in their best interest to contact you or your clan directly for its survival another vessel will be made available for that specific task and never again. This vessel is also restricted from answering questions specifically concerning this matter but is allowed to give broad answers to allow for best flexibility and test of your own intelligence to formulate how best fit the answer to your needs.

None the less the main concern especially those outside of New Eden migrating in is the disturbing number of spies already trying to get recruited and alliance agents and counter intelligence groups buzzing with orders to infiltrate as many dust 514 interested organizations as possible.

Treat all new clan members from other games in the last 4 months with suspect, especially any new members that joined when your organization first started showing interest for Dust 514. Monitor their behavior closely as itGÇÖs the farthest back the 'buzz' has been heard. It is possible bolder individuals have implanted themselves up to two years before, strong MAG clans are likely target victims from that time.

Start officially appointing Counter Intelligence Officers.

Start Drafting Counter Intelligence Doctrines.

Start drafting stricter recruiting requirements outside the normal kill efficiency.

Be paranoid of who you give control of your corporationGÇÖs assets to. This includes web presence of any sort; speak servers, even recruiting outlets and leadership positions. It would not surprise Soki if some of the second in charge are agents working against your clan.

Learn how to spot 'suspicious' activity in a corporation member.

Trim out the trash, anyone on long absence of leave without reason should be removed.

Those that give excuses should be monitored closely as well.

Finally begin your own intelligence program to preempt strike back before the game even launches.

Remember,

Divert
Instigate
Lie
Encryption
Consume
Leak
Divide
Confuse
Paralyze

Those who embrace the nine tales of Soki will be the bane of anyone not deserving to continue. To those who have yet experienced what it is like to wake up only to lose everything you ever did, there is no greater breaking point for a corporation than to shatter a corporation into thousands of pieces and not a single bullet, missile, ship, armada, army, or number of skill points could have stopped it, and knowing it as you helplessly watch it all get torn apart.

It can happen, it will happen expect it to happen, prepare, preplan, preempt.

There is a reason why this video exists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0I
Don't think too long about it and start thinking how to save your clan starting now.
You're already 300+ confirmed ID'd agents behind and thatGÇÖs usually a small fraction of actual headcounts.

If you want a simple test on how to rate yourself on getting counter intelligence give yourself 1 hr to find out this character's Eve Online counter part. All the information you need is contained in this post.

Tear thread about what?

So basically your the Illuminati of the Eve universe.

If I get the gist, the warning is this. Corps fail from within. The history of new eden is replete with cascade failure of alliances because someone got greedy or a good offer from an enemy or simply ragequit. We call it meta game, because the truth that gamers might be anything other than gamers is to much like RL. Rather than freak at the responsiblity you are taking on revel in it, make it your own. The author of the thread has set out an agenda, agree, disagree, find them in game and shoot them in the face.

Welcome to the sandbox.

Shudders at the unbidden image of Axl Rose.

Wouldn't know that is something we'd have to find out. I wont be there to say 'told you so' either.

Running a Corporation sounds fun if the real life job setup is limited to Burger King, et all.
Running a Dust Corporation when the real life job setup is about the same is not interesting to me.

I rather run around in Dust and just shoot instead of wondering about ISK and in the background checking what property/asset is worth what in yens/euros/dollars/pesos/et all.

There is nothing that super scary meta-gaming elite (man I wish there was punctuation to denote sarcasm) could do that any

reasonable person that would change their game. It's only the hot heads that go screaming to the forums when they get

scammed. Everyone else remembers that nothings actually changed and carry on playing.

Its understandable I suppose, you're an artist and they are prone to bouts of intense emotion. (Quit being a *****).

I'm also going to throw my hat in with a 'what is even happening here I don't even'. Why can't we all just be smiling friends in one big social club? All this meta-game business... I could see it having an affect later, maybe (it's a first person shooter after all, It's not that deep), but as is, it's a beta with next to no real player grouping. Besides, all this headgame stuff really isn't a big deal, just do what you would do normally, act rationally, and have fun (fistbumbs to Da'Wg and Iceybums), if you buy into it that means you're already at a disadvantage.

And I think Bear Force1 is cool how they post that stuff publicly, transparency is the best policy (pretty sure Iron is just bored and trolling/bringing up the possibility for people to think about, which is a legitimate thing to do).

BearForce1 you say...?