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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.08 05:35:00 -
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Who or what Soki is shouldnGÇÖt be the least of your concerns, you will see little mention of who or what they are in New Eden if you tried looking, they don't exist as a corp., they donGÇÖt have a forum, they certainly donGÇÖt have a kill board, and they can certainly destroy most corporations when in the mood without firing a single shot and worst of all they don't leave calling cards or brag about doing specifc jobs.
Adding to that, this is the last official Soki statement to be made from this vessel. This vessel was compromised and is being punished for such. Should Soki believe it is in their best interest to contact you or your clan directly for its survival another vessel will be made available for that specific task and never again. This vessel is also restricted from answering questions specifically concerning this matter but is allowed to give broad answers to allow for best flexibility and test of your own intelligence to formulate how best fit the answer to your needs.
None the less the main concern especially those outside of New Eden migrating in is the disturbing number of spies already trying to get recruited and alliance agents and counter intelligence groups buzzing with orders to infiltrate as many dust 514 interested organizations as possible.
Treat all new clan members from other games in the last 4 months with suspect, especially any new members that joined when your organization first started showing interest for Dust 514. Monitor their behavior closely as itGÇÖs the farthest back the 'buzz' has been heard. It is possible bolder individuals have implanted themselves up to two years before, strong MAG clans are likely target victims from that time.
Start officially appointing Counter Intelligence Officers.
Start Drafting Counter Intelligence Doctrines.
Start drafting stricter recruiting requirements outside the normal kill efficiency.
Be paranoid of who you give control of your corporationGÇÖs assets to. This includes web presence of any sort; speak servers, even recruiting outlets and leadership positions. It would not surprise Soki if some of the second in charge are agents working against your clan.
Learn how to spot 'suspicious' activity in a corporation member.
Trim out the trash, anyone on long absence of leave without reason should be removed.
Those that give excuses should be monitored closely as well.
Finally begin your own intelligence program to preempt strike back before the game even launches.
Remember,
Divert Instigate Lie Encryption Consume Leak Divide Confuse Paralyze
Those who embrace the nine tales of Soki will be the bane of anyone not deserving to continue. To those who have yet experienced what it is like to wake up only to lose everything you ever did, there is no greater breaking point for a corporation than to shatter a corporation into thousands of pieces and not a single bullet, missile, ship, armada, army, or number of skill points could have stopped it, and knowing it as you helplessly watch it all get torn apart.
It can happen, it will happen expect it to happen, prepare, preplan, preempt.
There is a reason why this video exists http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0I Don't think too long about it and start thinking how to save your clan starting now. You're already 300+ confirmed ID'd agents behind and thatGÇÖs usually a small fraction of actual headcounts.
If you want a simple test on how to rate yourself on getting counter intelligence give yourself 1 hr to find out this character's Eve Online counter part. All the information you need is contained in this post.
Also some incidents are already beginning to start such as this one http://www.d3ltaforc3.shivtr.com/forum_threads/1204057 btw there should be absolutly no reason why a nonmember like myself should be able to view this. |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
291
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Posted - 2012.08.08 05:50:00 -
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another four letters:
GHSC |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.08.08 05:52:00 -
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I once joined Soki in the hope of becoming a real life spy, but all they did all day was play strip poker on skype.
Do not recommend as they weren't any good-looking, even when compared to most basement nerds. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.08 05:53:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:I once joined Soki in the hope of becoming a real life spy, but all they did all day was play strip poker on skype.
Do not recommend as they weren't any good-looking, even when compared to most basement nerds.
Oh that is just a diversion that perfectly spanned out from one of the first corps we took out. They muddy up the waters quite nice.
As one would say
Would the real Soki please stand up?
The next question is for you is how do you know I am not a fake soki member? |
Milk Supreme
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
127
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Posted - 2012.08.08 06:08:00 -
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The GHSC has no interest in your petty squabbles peasant |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.08 06:13:00 -
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Milk Supreme wrote:The GHSC has no interest in your petty squabbles peasant
Soki typically calls them prey. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.08.08 06:15:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Who or what Soki is shouldnGÇÖt be the least of your concerns, you will see little mention of who or what they are in New Eden if you tried looking, they don't exist as a corp., they donGÇÖt have a forum, they certainly donGÇÖt have a kill board, and they can certainly destroy most corporations when in the mood without firing a single shot and worst of all they don't leave calling cards or brag about doing specifc jobs. Adding to that, this is the last official Soki statement to be made from this vessel. This vessel was compromised and is being punished for such. Should Soki believe it is in their best interest to contact you or your clan directly for its survival another vessel will be made available for that specific task and never again. This vessel is also restricted from answering questions specifically concerning this matter but is allowed to give broad answers to allow for best flexibility and test of your own intelligence to formulate how best fit the answer to your needs. None the less the main concern especially those outside of New Eden migrating in is the disturbing number of spies already trying to get recruited and alliance agents and counter intelligence groups buzzing with orders to infiltrate as many dust 514 interested organizations as possible. Treat all new clan members from other games in the last 4 months with suspect, especially any new members that joined when your organization first started showing interest for Dust 514. Monitor their behavior closely as itGÇÖs the farthest back the 'buzz' has been heard. It is possible bolder individuals have implanted themselves up to two years before, strong MAG clans are likely target victims from that time. Start officially appointing Counter Intelligence Officers. Start Drafting Counter Intelligence Doctrines. Start drafting stricter recruiting requirements outside the normal kill efficiency. 39 minutes Be paranoid of who you give control of your corporationGÇÖs assets to. This includes web presence of any sort; speak servers, even recruiting outlets and leadership positions. It would not surprise Soki if some of the second in charge are agents working against your clan. Learn how to spot 'suspicious' activity in a corporation member. Trim out the trash, anyone on long absence of leave without reason should be removed. Those that give excuses should be monitored closely as well. Finally begin your own intelligence program to preempt strike back before the game even launches. Remember, Divert Instigate Lie Encryption Consume Leak Divide Confuse Paralyze Those who embrace the nine tales of Soki will be the bane of anyone not deserving to continue. To those who have yet experienced what it is like to wake up only to lose everything you ever did, there is no greater breaking point for a corporation than to shatter a corporation into thousands of pieces and not a single bullet, missile, ship, armada, army, or number of skill points could have stopped it, and knowing it as you helplessly watch it all get torn apart. It can happen, it will happen expect it to happen, prepare, preplan, preempt. There is a reason why this video exists http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0IDon't think too long about it and start thinking how to save your clan starting now. You're already 300+ confirmed ID'd agents behind and thatGÇÖs usually a small fraction of actual headcounts. If you want a simple test on how to rate yourself on getting counter intelligence give yourself 1 hr to find out this character's Eve Online counter part. All the information you need is contained in this post.
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MR-NASTY
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
87
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Posted - 2012.08.08 06:21:00 -
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Knock, knock! |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.08 08:19:00 -
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Pathetic. This doesn't help EvE & console player become a community. Stupid post, doesn't relate to Dust.
Post my EvE chars name. From my trial. In an hour. Well off you go. Sad act spy boy. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.08.08 10:52:00 -
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I dunno, it was meant to be funny, and I kinda read it as a public service announcement. Some of it is good advice. |
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.08 11:09:00 -
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Yeah I'm sure it's meant to be funny... just makes me less interested in playin. An dislike EvEtards more. |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
660
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Posted - 2012.08.08 11:12:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Yeah I'm sure it's meant to be funny... just makes me less interested in playin. An dislike EvEtards more. I don't know how to treat the OP actually. I'm sure it's serious but not sure how critical it is.
As for what you're saying about EVE players, you really should get used to these kinds of actions. They are a big part of the EVE universe and they will probably be an even bigger part of Dust. If you can't play the meta-game, your game will be very vulnerable. |
Booker DaFooker
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
69
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Posted - 2012.08.08 11:21:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Yeah I'm sure it's meant to be funny... just makes me less interested in playin. An dislike EvEtards more.
I'm sure you'll be able to play the game fine without being personally involved in these kind of politics and fair play to you but you will prob need to join a corps at some point to enjoy game to it's fullest extent and they will be affected by it all without a doubt so it will impact on you in a secondary way, even if it just dictates which contracts you fight for |
EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
168
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Posted - 2012.08.08 11:34:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Who or what Soki is shouldnGÇÖt be the least of your concerns, you will see little mention of who or what they are in New Eden if you tried looking, they don't exist as a corp., they donGÇÖt have a forum, they certainly donGÇÖt have a kill board, and they can certainly destroy most corporations when in the mood without firing a single shot and worst of all they don't leave calling cards or brag about doing specifc jobs. Adding to that, this is the last official Soki statement to be made from this vessel. This vessel was compromised and is being punished for such. Should Soki believe it is in their best interest to contact you or your clan directly for its survival another vessel will be made available for that specific task and never again. This vessel is also restricted from answering questions specifically concerning this matter but is allowed to give broad answers to allow for best flexibility and test of your own intelligence to formulate how best fit the answer to your needs. None the less the main concern especially those outside of New Eden migrating in is the disturbing number of spies already trying to get recruited and alliance agents and counter intelligence groups buzzing with orders to infiltrate as many dust 514 interested organizations as possible. Treat all new clan members from other games in the last 4 months with suspect, especially any new members that joined when your organization first started showing interest for Dust 514. Monitor their behavior closely as itGÇÖs the farthest back the 'buzz' has been heard. It is possible bolder individuals have implanted themselves up to two years before, strong MAG clans are likely target victims from that time. Start officially appointing Counter Intelligence Officers. Start Drafting Counter Intelligence Doctrines. Start drafting stricter recruiting requirements outside the normal kill efficiency. Be paranoid of who you give control of your corporationGÇÖs assets to. This includes web presence of any sort; speak servers, even recruiting outlets and leadership positions. It would not surprise Soki if some of the second in charge are agents working against your clan. Learn how to spot 'suspicious' activity in a corporation member. Trim out the trash, anyone on long absence of leave without reason should be removed. Those that give excuses should be monitored closely as well. Finally begin your own intelligence program to preempt strike back before the game even launches. Remember, Divert Instigate Lie Encryption Consume Leak Divide Confuse Paralyze Those who embrace the nine tales of Soki will be the bane of anyone not deserving to continue. To those who have yet experienced what it is like to wake up only to lose everything you ever did, there is no greater breaking point for a corporation than to shatter a corporation into thousands of pieces and not a single bullet, missile, ship, armada, army, or number of skill points could have stopped it, and knowing it as you helplessly watch it all get torn apart. It can happen, it will happen expect it to happen, prepare, preplan, preempt. There is a reason why this video exists http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0IDon't think too long about it and start thinking how to save your clan starting now. You're already 300+ confirmed ID'd agents behind and thatGÇÖs usually a small fraction of actual headcounts. If you want a simple test on how to rate yourself on getting counter intelligence give yourself 1 hr to find out this character's Eve Online counter part. All the information you need is contained in this post. http://youtu.be/gZEdDMQZaCU |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.08 11:58:00 -
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Booker DaFooker wrote:Tony Calif wrote:Yeah I'm sure it's meant to be funny... just makes me less interested in playin. An dislike EvEtards more. I'm sure you'll be able to play the game fine without being personally involved in these kind of politics and fair play to you but you will prob need to join a corps at some point to enjoy game to it's fullest extent and they will be affected by it all without a doubt so it will impact on you in a secondary way, even if it just dictates which contracts you fight for
I'll just explain why... 1.) our community sucks. We're pretty agreed on that. 2.) no player corps at release (CSM notes) 3.) it seems that people don't want t give the game time to sort itself. The spies idea simply encourages lone wolves, and pub stars.
There's so much competition, I just don't see how people can try so hard to make people NOT play.
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Booker DaFooker
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
69
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Posted - 2012.08.08 12:18:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Booker DaFooker wrote:Tony Calif wrote:Yeah I'm sure it's meant to be funny... just makes me less interested in playin. An dislike EvEtards more. I'm sure you'll be able to play the game fine without being personally involved in these kind of politics and fair play to you but you will prob need to join a corps at some point to enjoy game to it's fullest extent and they will be affected by it all without a doubt so it will impact on you in a secondary way, even if it just dictates which contracts you fight for I'll just explain why... 1.) our community sucks. We're pretty agreed on that. 2.) no player corps at release (CSM notes) 3.) it seems that people don't want t give the game time to sort itself. The spies idea simply encourages lone wolves, and pub stars. There's so much competition, I just don't see how people can try so hard to make people NOT play.
I belong to a really cool community playing dust so I reckon there is hope on that score! lol no player corps at release does suck big time and I suppose I have to just have faith that there are good reasons for it, I believe there will be ad hoc group formation tho so we should be able to play with "corps mates" I agree with you on point 3 too, there are too many doomsayers and griefers all chucking their 3 pennies worth in, most with their own agendas of some sort but that is, like it or not, part of what being in the New Eden universe is all about, there is no getting away from it and as Dust players we will have to hit it head on and make a place for ourselves. If you think it's bad now, wait till we starting messing with null sec for real!! lol |
Quiverous
Dark Harlequin
37
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Posted - 2012.08.08 12:52:00 -
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A classic example of the masturbationary post. Full of grandiose claims and self reverence. Followed by an example of how we all fail next to posters awesome epicness. Being the only one with an "i win button" all us plebs should just suzy side outta here.
It's not to say there are no valid points in the post, but the tone ... undermines everything said. |
theschizogenious
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
167
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Posted - 2012.08.08 12:56:00 -
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Booker DaFooker wrote:Tony Calif wrote:Booker DaFooker wrote:Tony Calif wrote:Yeah I'm sure it's meant to be funny... just makes me less interested in playin. An dislike EvEtards more. I'm sure you'll be able to play the game fine without being personally involved in these kind of politics and fair play to you but you will prob need to join a corps at some point to enjoy game to it's fullest extent and they will be affected by it all without a doubt so it will impact on you in a secondary way, even if it just dictates which contracts you fight for I'll just explain why... 1.) our community sucks. We're pretty agreed on that. 2.) no player corps at release (CSM notes) 3.) it seems that people don't want t give the game time to sort itself. The spies idea simply encourages lone wolves, and pub stars. There's so much competition, I just don't see how people can try so hard to make people NOT play. I belong to a really cool community playing dust so I reckon there is hope on that score! lol no player corps at release does suck big time and I suppose I have to just have faith that there are good reasons for it, I believe there will be ad hoc group formation tho so we should be able to play with "corps mates" I agree with you on point 3 too, there are too many doomsayers and griefers all chucking their 3 pennies worth in, most with their own agendas of some sort but that is, like it or not, part of what being in the New Eden universe is all about, there is no getting away from it and as Dust players we will have to hit it head on and make a place for ourselves. If you think it's bad now, wait till we starting messing with null sec for real!! lol
everyone does have their own agenda the difference between us and soki are that our agendas consist of things like giving feedback on the game and enjoying ourselves for as long as we can.
goodluck to soki.
and if they are so good at spying tell me what my eve name is? |
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2012.08.08 13:07:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Who or what Soki is shouldnGÇÖt be the least of your concerns, you will see little mention of who or what they are in New Eden if you tried looking, they don't exist as a corp., they donGÇÖt have a forum, they certainly donGÇÖt have a kill board, and they can certainly destroy most corporations when in the mood without firing a single shot and worst of all they don't leave calling cards or brag about doing specifc jobs. Adding to that, this is the last official Soki statement to be made from this vessel. This vessel was compromised and is being punished for such. Should Soki believe it is in their best interest to contact you or your clan directly for its survival another vessel will be made available for that specific task and never again. This vessel is also restricted from answering questions specifically concerning this matter but is allowed to give broad answers to allow for best flexibility and test of your own intelligence to formulate how best fit the answer to your needs. None the less the main concern especially those outside of New Eden migrating in is the disturbing number of spies already trying to get recruited and alliance agents and counter intelligence groups buzzing with orders to infiltrate as many dust 514 interested organizations as possible. Treat all new clan members from other games in the last 4 months with suspect, especially any new members that joined when your organization first started showing interest for Dust 514. Monitor their behavior closely as itGÇÖs the farthest back the 'buzz' has been heard. It is possible bolder individuals have implanted themselves up to two years before, strong MAG clans are likely target victims from that time. Start officially appointing Counter Intelligence Officers. Start Drafting Counter Intelligence Doctrines. Start drafting stricter recruiting requirements outside the normal kill efficiency. Be paranoid of who you give control of your corporationGÇÖs assets to. This includes web presence of any sort; speak servers, even recruiting outlets and leadership positions. It would not surprise Soki if some of the second in charge are agents working against your clan. Learn how to spot 'suspicious' activity in a corporation member. Trim out the trash, anyone on long absence of leave without reason should be removed. Those that give excuses should be monitored closely as well. Finally begin your own intelligence program to preempt strike back before the game even launches. Remember, Divert Instigate Lie Encryption Consume Leak Divide Confuse Paralyze Those who embrace the nine tales of Soki will be the bane of anyone not deserving to continue. To those who have yet experienced what it is like to wake up only to lose everything you ever did, there is no greater breaking point for a corporation than to shatter a corporation into thousands of pieces and not a single bullet, missile, ship, armada, army, or number of skill points could have stopped it, and knowing it as you helplessly watch it all get torn apart. It can happen, it will happen expect it to happen, prepare, preplan, preempt. There is a reason why this video exists http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0IDon't think too long about it and start thinking how to save your clan starting now. You're already 300+ confirmed ID'd agents behind and thatGÇÖs usually a small fraction of actual headcounts. If you want a simple test on how to rate yourself on getting counter intelligence give yourself 1 hr to find out this character's Eve Online counter part. All the information you need is contained in this post.
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zerkin gerend
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:10:00 -
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that all nice but umm wont we have to wait till 0.0 is out? |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.08 15:06:00 -
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zerkin gerend wrote:that all nice but umm wont we have to wait till 0.0 is out?
Iron Wolf Saber wrote: You're already 300+ confirmed ID'd agents behind and thatGÇÖs usually a small fraction of actual headcount.
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.08 15:09:00 -
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Quiverous wrote:A classic example of the masturbationary post. Full of grandiose claims and self reverence. Followed by an example of how we all fail next to posters awesome epicness. Being the only one with an "i win button" all us plebs should just suzy side outta here.
It's not to say there are no valid points in the post, but the tone ... undermines everything said.
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.08 15:10:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Pathetic. This doesn't help EvE & console player become a community. Stupid post, doesn't relate to Dust.
Post my EvE chars name. From my trial. In an hour. Well off you go. Sad act spy boy.
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Start officially appointing Counter Intelligence Officers.
Start Drafting Counter Intelligence Doctrines.
Start drafting stricter recruiting requirements outside the normal kill efficiency.
Be paranoid of who you give control of your corporationGÇÖs assets to. This includes web presence of any sort; speak servers, even recruiting outlets and leadership positions. It would not surprise Soki if some of the second in charge are agents working against your clan.
Learn how to spot 'suspicious' activity in a corporation member.
Trim out the trash, anyone on long absence of leave without reason should be removed.
Those that give excuses should be monitored closely as well.
Finally begin your own intelligence program to preempt strike back before the game even launches.
Remember,
Divert Instigate Lie Encryption Consume Leak Divide Confuse Paralyze
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.08 15:11:00 -
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theschizogenious wrote:
everyone does have their own agenda the difference between us and soki are that our agendas consist of things like giving feedback on the game and enjoying ourselves for as long as we can.
goodluck to soki.
and if they are so good at spying tell me what my eve name is?
Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Adding to that, this is the last official Soki statement to be made from this vessel. This vessel was compromised and is being punished for such. Should Soki believe it is in their best interest to contact you or your clan directly for its survival another vessel will be made available for that specific task and never again. This vessel is also restricted from answering questions specifically concerning this matter but is allowed to give broad answers to allow for best flexibility and test of your own intelligence to formulate how best fit the answer to your needs.
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Degren Cthulhu
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:16:00 -
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I wonder how long it will be before the first elite dust corp made up of people from [insert console fps] who for sum reason dosnt like eve and are here for just the pew pew and think the meta game or whateva you want to call it is a waste of time embrace what is shown in that little vid. only to realise they hav become what they hate the most, citizens of new eden |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:18:00 -
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There is only one type of people in the realm of meta-gaming.
Targets. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:28:00 -
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people take this **** way too seriously.
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:31:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:people take this **** way too seriously.
I know... I unfourtunately didnt take is seriously enough and now I can't reliably join any competent allaince becuase of it. Talk about screwups that follow you ingame for years.
Its like if they invite me its to watch me and monitor what I do to see if they can catch any other members of the soki group which clearly has been doing thier best to keep thier distance from me. Then anyone else with a good counter intel program would already have me red flagged.
Im surpsized they tapped me this early... which makes me think someone else from soki got caught finally and hes the new wippin boy. |
Degren Cthulhu
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:33:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:people take this **** way too seriously.
from what i remember people took clan matches on mag even thou you couldnt do it without a lot of hasle serious to, same thing just a different game:) |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:34:00 -
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No Proto it's true and you know it. Think of the MAG players who went to EvE and are already in cushy little corps (oh wait, yiu EvEtards didnt think this would work both ways?) I'll go play a decent shooter once one comes out. Stuff Dust, filled with people who don't want to play an FPS, just ruin it for others. I just can't be bothered with it all. Like you say Proto, these his take EvE so seriously they're willin to jepodise the game before it comes out. Like I say, when a good shooter comes out, I'll play that. Damn I just wish there were other FPS common out... Especially MMO ones on PC... |
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