According to the person I talked to on comms, who played from the earliest version of Dust from 2009, he said that those jets are so fast that you often find yourself flying off into the red zone. If ccp has any plans to bring them back, which is likely given the evidence shown on the table in the merc quarters, then we need far bigger maps.

I'm not sure how a flying vehicle that fast would be balanced in terms of AV weaponry.

I don't remember where I heard this from but seems that I remember something about CCP allowing Eve ships (small ones like frigates, cruisers) to enter atmosphere to provide air support. I would also think that if this is true then they would provide a way to take them down just as they are going to provide weapons large enough to take out capital ships in space.

Has any one heard of this?

Adding jets that us dust users can fly could be a downfall. Take BF3 for example, numerous games you get people doing nothing but waiting for jets/heli's. Even if they miss the jet and spawn in they'll suicide and wait until the next one becomes available.

Are you talking orbital strikes or are you saying these ships would be visible entities to people in DUST? If the latter, people have posted the sizes of these smaller EVE ships in numerous posts. If memory serves, even the smallest frigate is massive. I don't think this would work out considering the current map sizes (even if they were quadrupled in size).

Zoom all the way out on the plateu map.. the map extends waaaay past the area we have benn given to play in... the maps ARE pretty big...

Side note: Minmatar jets please!!!!

Thanks OP for posting that video. I believe that the video was of Dust on its engine developed by CCP.. They later scrapped it in favor of UTs engine... Man, Hopefully Dust becomes more like that. 3 years extra development and all we get is this build :(

You can thank Monoclegate for this.

I guess I should've worded that last post correctly.

I meant bigger map to fly around in without accidentally flying into the red zone. So far, the red zones are so constricting that I feel claustrophobic in an open area.

Well i was on the forums a couple of days ago and i saw a reference to a video from 2009 showing off the prototype overview map. What really surprised me though was when he ordered some sort of dropship, but it moved 4x the speed of a normal one.
The HUD led me to believe that this wasn't a dropship as it went sideways and at angles.

Here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED-YF-v7WCw

Skip almost to the end

This video is from fanfest 2009 I'm not sure whether this breaks the NDA

Tell me what you think

Thanks OP for posting that video. I believe that the video was of Dust on its engine developed by CCP.. They later scrapped it in favor of UTs engine... Man, Hopefully Dust becomes more like that. 3 years extra development and all we get is this build :(

who is OP

Vehicles don't spawn they get ordered for your isk so no waiting as long as you have enough money

Yes I know that but the principle is still the same. Think of it this way, vehicle limit reached. So someone wants a jet but they can't , they will stand around doing nothing until they can call one in.

Just because it is a team based game it doesn't mean people will play it like one. Bf3 is team based game, how often do you actually get people playing as a team? Just because someone has to approve a jet it doesn't mean that the guy will go infantry etc if he can't get a jet. You have to remember the mentality of some FPS players. I've played plenty of FPS games and believe me many are not team players like you or I.

I agree with that. I'm not saying it'll be an easy task reeducating FPS players.
The thing is that if they don't accept the command structure they will quickly find themselves only in the arena battles. Or maybe as odd lone wolves in FW.

We can only hope that is the case. If not I'll have to find some people to play with pretty damn quickly

You can thank Monoclegate for this.

According to the person I talked to on comms, who played from the earliest version of Dust from 2009, he said that those jets are so fast that you often find yourself flying off into the red zone. If ccp has any plans to bring them back, which is likely given the evidence shown on the table in the merc quarters, then we need far bigger maps.

I don't remember where I heard this from but seems that I remember something about CCP allowing Eve ships (small ones like frigates, cruisers) to enter atmosphere to provide air support. I would also think that if this is true then they would provide a way to take them down just as they are going to provide weapons large enough to take out capital ships in space.

Has any one heard of this?

That was an ancient fan fest concept video about atmospheric flight

That was an ancient fan fest concept video about atmospheric flight

They would be cool, but I'm not sure how a flying vehicle that fast would be balanced in terms of AV weaponry. Current dropships can already outrun SL missiles if the pilot knows what they are doing, and hitting them with a Forge while moving can be a task depending on range.

I'm not sure how you deal with something moving at 2-3X those speeds. If you increase the speed of SL missiles you totally screw Dropships, but then the jets are near impossible to shoot down. If they can figure a way to balance it though havin jets would be awesome.