Would you all calm the hell down?

We are not here to post raging threads about whether or not FPS players are any better than Eve players or vise versa. We are here to test the game and assist CCP (who will make the final decision anyways, not us) in developing Dust 514 into the best game possible.

I'm an Eve Online player with almost 5 years experience in pvp, industry and now dabbling into trade. But I am also a dedicated Halo fan since the day the first Xbox (that big clunky black box with an giant X on it) hit the market. I have also played Call of Duty, KillZone, Battlefield, Ghost Recon, a little bit of Counter Strike, and Gears of War. But I'm still an Eve Online player by heart. But you don't see me bashing console players, do you?

I want both sides of the fence to work together to make Dust 514 better and unique compared to all the themepark-driven games we have seen so far. There are also MAG players here who want to work with Eve players to help Dust 514 balanced and to avoid going down the dark path that MAG unfortunately went through just like how Eve players want to avoid turning Eve into just another WoW.

My point is that console FPS players and PC Eve players have far more in common than you think. Sure, we have our differences, but that doesn't mean we should act like children and bicker over stupid things like the US Congress.

Also...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will not accept the notion that Eve players should stop first with the asshattery if FPS players want to get along. The exact same thing will be stated for the FPS players being required to stop first with the asshattery.

I kindly request that all of us, both Eve and FPS players stop this at once. It's annoying and childish and serves no purpose than make us look idiotic in the eyes of CCP games and the rest of the gaming community at large assuming CCP decides to lift the NDA and reveals everything we posted here.

Let's just work together to ensure that Dust 514 is balanced and that we keep each other informed about the changes that have happened and what is to happen according to CCP. This is CCP's work after all, not ours as CCP has the final say on how the last brush stroke will be made.

If we keep acting childish and post childish ideas simply because we couldn't settle our damn differences, then obviously Dust 514 will fail because we failed to work together and work on common ground which could've prevented this theoretical disaster.

Is that what you all want? To ruin Dust 514's chances of succeeding? Then all I got to say to that is that is a sign of some sort of mental illness. I mean, what possible gain could there be from doing this? To satisfy our irrelevant e-pride on who is right and who is wrong? To make one side of the fence feel better that they have put down those on the other side of the fence?

Seriously, I'm sick of this. I'm dead serious on this. I'm not joking here.

Dust 514 can only be a great game so long as we respect each others opinions and no wave around our useless e-pride. Dust 514 can only be a major fail if we act like it.

If you want to keep acting like asshats, then at least make sure you save that for in-game lulz like when you scam someone in Jita or when you constantly stab that one dude with the Nova Knife and he has no clue what's happening or when you post on the Fail Heap Challenge forums or on the regular Eve forums or whatever public forum you go to. Save the asshattery for that. The beta forums, a place where CCP looks into for our input on an incomplete game that hasn't even hit the market yet, is not the best place for that.

So let us all settle our differences right here right now and work together to make Dust 514 better than all the other games out there. Let's show the world how themepark games are about to become a thing of the past and that the sandbox is the wave of the future.

Would you all calm the hell down?

We are not here to post raging threads about whether or not FPS players are any better than Eve players or vise versa. We are here to test the game and assist CCP (who will make the final decision anyways, not us) in developing Dust 514 into the best game possible.

I'm an Eve Online player with almost 5 years experience in pvp, industry and now dabbling into trade. But I am also a dedicated Halo fan since the day the first Xbox (that big clunky black box with an giant X on it) hit the market. I have also played Call of Duty, KillZone, Battlefield, Ghost Recon, a little bit of Counter Strike, and Gears of War. But I'm still an Eve Online player by heart. But you don't see me bashing console players, do you?

I want both sides of the fence to work together to make Dust 514 better and unique compared to all the themepark-driven games we have seen so far. There are also MAG players here who want to work with Eve players to help Dust 514 balanced and to avoid going down the dark path that MAG unfortunately went through just like how Eve players want to avoid turning Eve into just another WoW.

My point is that console FPS players and PC Eve players have far more in common than you think. Sure, we have our differences, but that doesn't mean we should act like children and bicker over stupid things like the US Congress.

Also...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will not accept the notion that Eve players should stop first with the asshattery if FPS players want to get along. The exact same thing will be stated for the FPS players being required to stop first with the asshattery.

I kindly request that all of us, both Eve and FPS players stop this at once. It's annoying and childish and serves no purpose than make us look idiotic in the eyes of CCP games and the rest of the gaming community at large assuming CCP decides to lift the NDA and reveals everything we posted here.

Let's just work together to ensure that Dust 514 is balanced and that we keep each other informed about the changes that have happened and what is to happen according to CCP. This is CCP's work after all, not ours as CCP has the final say on how the last brush stroke will be made.

If we keep acting childish and post childish ideas simply because we couldn't settle our damn differences, then obviously Dust 514 will fail because we failed to work together and work on common ground which could've prevented this theoretical disaster.

Is that what you all want? To ruin Dust 514's chances of succeeding? Then all I got to say to that is that is a sign of some sort of mental illness. I mean, what possible gain could there be from doing this? To satisfy our irrelevant e-pride on who is right and who is wrong? To make one side of the fence feel better that they have put down those on the other side of the fence?

Seriously, I'm sick of this. I'm dead serious on this. I'm not joking here.

Dust 514 can only be a great game so long as we respect each others opinions and no wave around our useless e-pride. Dust 514 can only be a major fail if we act like it.

If you want to keep acting like asshats, then at least make sure you save that for in-game lulz like when you scam someone in Jita or when you constantly stab that one dude with the Nova Knife and he has no clue what's happening or when you post on the Fail Heap Challenge forums or on the regular Eve forums or whatever public forum you go to. Save the asshattery for that. The beta forums, a place where CCP looks into for our input on an incomplete game that hasn't even hit the market yet, is not the best place for that.

So let us all settle our differences right here right now and work together to make Dust 514 better than all the other games out there. Let's show the world how themepark games are about to become a thing of the past and that the sandbox is the wave of the future.

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It becomes a waste of our time Garr. It's frustrating explaining the same thing over and over. And then some idiot turns up "none of it matters. I'm going to OS you all." We just can't be arsed in general. I just have too much time on my hands.

I'm going to let you in on a secret. You touched on it earlier. Probably 90% of those people who say "lol imma OS you" probably has never stepped out of hisec and I bet they would try and bring a BS to OS, and cry sad delicious tears as it gets destroyed by a few frigates. Not to mention the planet based weapons that can fire back.

Just try and remember their name so you can laugh a big hearty laugh when you kill them.

Hell I wouldnt bring a frigate to OS either...

Cost my clone is now abut 500 million isk without implants. 2.3 billion with.

So let us all settle our differences right here right now and work together...

Even though i like this idea, people won't listen. People are always a**holes behind the saftey of the internet

Admitting to being an eve player in game might actually turn out to **** you over once FF is implemented.

You guys feel all big now but wait until you are the minority.

I have not seen that happen so far. I have mentioned to other in game that I am an eve player and I have yet to run into anyone who threatened to gut me like a fish because of that. I have however seen plenty of people threaten others to gut them like a fish in game for either being idiots or just disregarding orders.

But the point you made is what I am trying to bring awareness to. We have far too many people here on both sides of the fence (fps players and eve players alike) who are just too damn concerned about their e-pride rather than working towards a common goal we all share. But if enough players from both sides of the fence truly love the game and want the game to be truly unique and better than everything else, then it will be within their best interest to work together and bring down that fence.

As to the person who posted about some carpenter being nailed onto some wood 2000 years ago: he knew what he was getting into but that sure didn't stop him.

@Crimson,

The Evetards as you so put it, do not speak on my behalf just like how the FPS epeen idiots do not speak on your behalf. But that doesn't mean you are obligated to stoop to their level just as I am not obligated to do that either.

I have no personal beef with you or the fps crowd. I am merely wanting to bring down the divide that separates you and I so that we can work together and make Dust a great game. But if you wish to continue the personal bickering just like the Evetards or just like the FPS Epeen forum warriors, then this discussion between you and me is over.

Most of it honestly is console guys coming in and saying dumb stuff like " add killstreaks " "run faster with a knife" "put jets in the game", etc. These ideas are understandably getting flamed, righteously.

Then you have eve players (such as myself) , asking to put things in that are actually IN eve. The flaming is inevitable because you have a more patient, mature playerbase arguing with another playerbase who wants another fast paced twitch shooter piece of garbage.

Thats a another huge misconception and another reason why eve players come off as smug assholes. Saying one playerbase is more mature then the other is incredibly ignorant. Every playerbase has their tards. Not every console player wants a balistic knife, jets and killstreaks in this game. You generalize us into one category and I have had time believing you are very mature at all.

Right now we are are the minority. In history the minority has almost always been discriminated against unfairly. That's what you have done to us. Some eve players are less mature then the average 12 year old playing CoD and blasting music over the mic.

Haha you definitely need more brains to play EvE then a numpty fps like cod. The reason why i put you all in the same category is because its the people in that category that are requesting the stupidest things, aka killstreaks. Them you have a bunch of idiots saying they'll friendly fire all the eve guys in dust. You can call me ignorant if you want but I really don't care, most of the good ideas are coming from eve players because they actually know New Eden, whereas people coming from a twitch shooter are offering recycled ideas from previous games theyve played.