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Crimson MoonV
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Posted - 2012.08.07 18:30:00 -
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There will be no peace treaty signed.
The console vs eve war is part of new eden history whether you like it or not. I'm sure ccp is used to making a game with drama all over the forums. Did everybody just get along on the original eve beta forums? This is actually something that might effect the storyline in one way or another.
Eve players will be notoriously mistrusted throughout the console community because of your backstabbing ways. I won't associate myself with any of you unless I have to. Admitting to being an eve player in game might actually turn out to **** you over once FF is implemented.
You guys feel all big now but wait until you are the minority. |
Crimson MoonV
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Posted - 2012.08.07 19:31:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Admitting to being an eve player in game might actually turn out to **** you over once FF is implemented.
You guys feel all big now but wait until you are the minority. I have not seen that happen so far. I have mentioned to other in game that I am an eve player and I have yet to run into anyone who threatened to gut me like a fish because of that. I have however seen plenty of people threaten others to gut them like a fish in game for either being idiots or just disregarding orders. But the point you made is what I am trying to bring awareness to. We have far too many people here on both sides of the fence (fps players and eve players alike) who are just too damn concerned about their e-pride rather than working towards a common goal we all share. But if enough players from both sides of the fence truly love the game and want the game to be truly unique and better than everything else, then it will be within their best interest to work together and bring down that fence. As to the person who posted about some carpenter being nailed onto some wood 2000 years ago: he knew what he was getting into but that sure didn't stop him. Forum ate my post.
There more eve tards then there are console kiddies.
Evetards are the ones doing most of the trolling. The best part is you are all carbon copies. Its funny that you guys are the ones coming forward asking for a truce.
"Go back to CoD carebear derp DERP." Yeah we get it you guys are unoriginal and have nothing to add the conversation or the development of this game.
There will be no peace treaty signed and I'm gunning some scrubs down once we get FF. I can taste the tears now. |
Crimson MoonV
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Posted - 2012.08.07 20:36:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:@Crimson,
The Evetards as you so put it, do not speak on my behalf just like how the FPS epeen idiots do not speak on your behalf. But that doesn't mean you are obligated to stoop to their level just as I am not obligated to do that either.
I have no personal beef with you or the fps crowd. I am merely wanting to bring down the divide that separates you and I so that we can work together and make Dust a great game. But if you wish to continue the personal bickering just like the Evetards or just like the FPS Epeen forum warriors, then this discussion between you and me is over. That's the problem though. You do not speak on their behalf. This thread serves no purpose other then optimism.
Some eve players like to try and grief people and that's just how it is. Its not going to stop. New eden thrives on drama, backstabbing and trolling. No amount of optimism is going to change that.
Welcome to new eden. |
Crimson MoonV
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Posted - 2012.08.07 20:48:00 -
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Grimm Tripp wrote:Most of it honestly is console guys coming in and saying dumb stuff like " add killstreaks " "run faster with a knife" "put jets in the game", etc. These ideas are understandably getting flamed, righteously.
Then you have eve players (such as myself) , asking to put things in that are actually IN eve. The flaming is inevitable because you have a more patient, mature playerbase arguing with another playerbase who wants another fast paced twitch shooter piece of garbage. Thats a another huge misconception and another reason why eve players come off as smug assholes. Saying one playerbase is more mature then the other is incredibly ignorant. Every playerbase has their tards. Not every console player wants a balistic knife, jets and killstreaks in this game. You generalize us into one category and I have had time believing you are very mature at all.
Right now we are are the minority. In history the minority has almost always been discriminated against unfairly. That's what you have done to us. Some eve players are less mature then the average 12 year old playing CoD and blasting music over the mic. |
Crimson MoonV
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Posted - 2012.08.07 22:41:00 -
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Grimm Tripp wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Grimm Tripp wrote:Most of it honestly is console guys coming in and saying dumb stuff like " add killstreaks " "run faster with a knife" "put jets in the game", etc. These ideas are understandably getting flamed, righteously.
Then you have eve players (such as myself) , asking to put things in that are actually IN eve. The flaming is inevitable because you have a more patient, mature playerbase arguing with another playerbase who wants another fast paced twitch shooter piece of garbage. Thats a another huge misconception and another reason why eve players come off as smug assholes. Saying one playerbase is more mature then the other is incredibly ignorant. Every playerbase has their tards. Not every console player wants a balistic knife, jets and killstreaks in this game. You generalize us into one category and I have had time believing you are very mature at all. Right now we are are the minority. In history the minority has almost always been discriminated against unfairly. That's what you have done to us. Some eve players are less mature then the average 12 year old playing CoD and blasting music over the mic. Haha you definitely need more brains to play EvE then a numpty fps like cod. The reason why i put you all in the same category is because its the people in that category that are requesting the stupidest things, aka killstreaks. Them you have a bunch of idiots saying they'll friendly fire all the eve guys in dust. You can call me ignorant if you want but I really don't care, most of the good ideas are coming from eve players because they actually know New Eden, whereas people coming from a twitch shooter are offering recycled ideas from previous games theyve played. So you think generalizing people in one category, with an unfair stereotype is acceptable?
Are you a closet racist? |
Crimson MoonV
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Posted - 2012.08.07 23:11:00 -
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Grimm Tripp wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Grimm Tripp wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Grimm Tripp wrote:Most of it honestly is console guys coming in and saying dumb stuff like " add killstreaks " "run faster with a knife" "put jets in the game", etc. These ideas are understandably getting flamed, righteously.
Then you have eve players (such as myself) , asking to put things in that are actually IN eve. The flaming is inevitable because you have a more patient, mature playerbase arguing with another playerbase who wants another fast paced twitch shooter piece of garbage. Thats a another huge misconception and another reason why eve players come off as smug assholes. Saying one playerbase is more mature then the other is incredibly ignorant. Every playerbase has their tards. Not every console player wants a balistic knife, jets and killstreaks in this game. You generalize us into one category and I have had time believing you are very mature at all. Right now we are are the minority. In history the minority has almost always been discriminated against unfairly. That's what you have done to us. Some eve players are less mature then the average 12 year old playing CoD and blasting music over the mic. Haha you definitely need more brains to play EvE then a numpty fps like cod. The reason why i put you all in the same category is because its the people in that category that are requesting the stupidest things, aka killstreaks. Them you have a bunch of idiots saying they'll friendly fire all the eve guys in dust. You can call me ignorant if you want but I really don't care, most of the good ideas are coming from eve players because they actually know New Eden, whereas people coming from a twitch shooter are offering recycled ideas from previous games theyve played. So you think generalizing people in one category, with an unfair stereotype is acceptable? Are you a closet racist? Uh.... Calling an fps gamer an fps gamer is racist? You'd make a horrible lawyer. When presented with fact you resort to playing the racist card. Either a bad troll or just really dumb. I can't believe you are so dense that I have to explain this to you.
Not all console fps gamers want killstreaks and cliche bullshit in this game. Generalizing people unfairly makes you look like a tool. You thinking its fact makes you look like an idiot. Fail harder.
I never called you a racist. I just asked you if you were in the closet with it because you think its fair to generalize people into stereotypes.
You're digging your own hole buddy. |
Crimson MoonV
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Posted - 2012.08.08 00:01:00 -
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Grimm Tripp wrote: The reason why i put you all in the same category is because its the people in that category that are requesting the stupidest things, aka killstreaks. You said right here that you generalize us all in the same category.
Do you even know what you are typing?
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Crimson MoonV
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Posted - 2012.08.08 00:25:00 -
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Kev Crow wrote: When it comes to all the arguing EVE vs FPS, KB&M vs DS3, PC vs Console: If you want to make an omelet you have to brake some eggs, and as far as I understand it, CCP is attempting something that has never been attempted before. Naturally, the FPS elite will say fail because DUST is too slow or too RPG like - if it does not meet their usual expectations, lets blame the nasty and arrogant EVE players. On the other side of the barricade the vocal minority , mostly null-sec fascists, say fail because they are afraid that their precious chaos and anarchy is being threaten by some more chaos - yes EVE is full of such paradoxes and I guess that's what makes it so fun.
I think the there is no real creativity without some creative tension, you cannot discover new possibilities if you don't risk the impossible - Unfortunately, to the surface observer this unfamiliar pattern usually feels as something wrong.
Well said.
The forum drama isn't as terrible as some people think. Honestly, as long as something beneficial comes from it all. Then I don't mind all the tension.
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Crimson MoonV
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Posted - 2012.08.08 00:53:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Kev Crow wrote: When it comes to all the arguing EVE vs FPS, KB&M vs DS3, PC vs Console: If you want to make an omelet you have to brake some eggs, and as far as I understand it, CCP is attempting something that has never been attempted before. Naturally, the FPS elite will say fail because DUST is too slow or too RPG like - if it does not meet their usual expectations, lets blame the nasty and arrogant EVE players. On the other side of the barricade the vocal minority , mostly null-sec fascists, say fail because they are afraid that their precious chaos and anarchy is being threaten by some more chaos - yes EVE is full of such paradoxes and I guess that's what makes it so fun.
I think the there is no real creativity without some creative tension, you cannot discover new possibilities if you don't risk the impossible - Unfortunately, to the surface observer this unfamiliar pattern usually feels as something wrong.
Well said. The forum drama isn't as terrible as some people think. Honestly, as long as something beneficial comes from it all. Then I don't mind all the tension. The problem there is how to keep the tension beneficial. Not too long ago, we just had Eve and FPS players going at each others throats over petty differences. If tension is needed, then we have to make sure that it's the good tension. Otherwise Dust will tear itself apart before it is even finished. Doesn't the eve forums have tons of bickering and drama on the forums. I would think that ccp is used to developing with people going at each others throat on the forums.
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