People are so adamant about making this a wack a mole cover based shooter because they think it's "tactical" or will be more "thoughtful". Which seems to be the way Dust 514 is headed anyway. Uninspiring gameplay IMO if the gameplay does take that route I implore CCP to get rid of shields. Gun fights will be exactly like this poke out head take a round or two, shoot a round or two duck back down regen shield... rinse and repeat WACK a MOLE game play.

This style of gameplay is meant for people who are really not good at aiming or hitting moving targets so they want to slow the game down to the point where everyone is sitting behind cover all game. This style of gameplay also caters to camping . Most people think that this style of gameplay will make suppression and flanking more relevant when in reality flanking and suppressive fire already takes place in even the twitch shooter. It's very hard to advance in any game if the enemy has you pinned down regardless of how fast you move and you will most likely end up on the kill feed due to being flanked.

Fast movement does not make a game less "tactical" or "thoughtful" than a slow game but it certainly makes it more fun. If you have a problem hitting a moving target you got out gunned get better. Whats that saying umm... ADAPT OR DIE! Don't slow the game down because you can't hit a moving target to save your virtual life.

+1 if you can't hit a moving target leave the game or go hardcore logistics

I agree with many of your points, and also would not want this to become a cover-based tactical shooter... But I must disagree with the suggestion that faster is always more fun.

If the game gets so fast paced that twitch always beats tactics, then stuff like flanking becomes pointless: Why bother if you're still going to get slaughtered by the guy you shot in the back no matter what?

Yes, I am well aware of the mantra: "Get good or get out".... The thing is that people who suck will get out... And if the people who can't aim well just happen to form the majority of your target market, then pushing them away from this game can be just as deadly as driving away the twitch gamers by not meeting their expectations.

I'll probably play Logistics and still average over a 2.0 but that's besides the point having a high KD also comes with making the enemy fight you on your terms. Also I'll probably be a dedicated pilot, infantry second it all depends on whats needed of me from battle to battle.

https://account.hirezstudios.com/tribesascend/
Make shure u close the door on the way out

I don't mean a standard logi carrying an ar, i mean a logi with maxed out equipment that carries a scrambler to make the most room for high end equipment

Understood.

If the enemy is camping behind cover (which is perfectly okay, especially for defenders), then you need to change tactics. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Bring in a tank and have it soften up the defense while you advance behind it (tanks are cover too). Use a dropship to insert a squad behind them then rush from front and rear. Call in an orbital strike.

If you can't solve a problem by shooting them, try something different.

See how that kind of gameplay requires tactics?

Also it has nothing to do with me being unable to hit moving targets. I admit I'm not nearly as good with a thumbstick as I am with a mouse, but I can get by. However, I mostly play support roles anyway and if I get a kill, it's a nice bonus. I plan to specialize in logistics and/or dropship piloting. I may go a whole game and never get a single kill and I'm completely okay with that.

Another clarification: I'm not advocating making the gameplay slower. I think it's about right where it is now. Scouts should be fast, and sprinting should be pretty fast. I just don't want strafing to be a viable tactic. I'm against increasing the overall speed of the game, though. I don't think "fast" automatically equals "fun".

I swear some people need to learn basic comprehension... I never said the game is a whack a mole shooter I said it will become one if the speeds keep getting bogged down.

If i understand perfectly what you're blaming here, i'd say it's pretty much like that for every FPS now...

MAG had regen gun. Take a pick, go back, "psssssssccchhiiit" and there you go. Even worse, raising fallen comrade : run, go "pssssssssssccccchhhhhiiiiiit" and there you go running like a very vivid rabbit.

COD and other non-sense : take bullets, screen gets greyish, hide, screen back to normal. And there you go.

Let's face it. Hardcore FPS like CS are pretty much dead. And they never offered any chance to random players to get a good role in the game. They were just being called noob, were getting owned and then screamed "cheeeaaater" in text chat.

=> So i more or less agree but as i know you were a huge fan of MAG, i just wanted to point out the fact that it's kinda like the same. Except here you dont need to change weapon and then "pssssscccchhhiiiiit" yourself. Ok, you could one shot a guy in MAG ( at least the first year as after that hit detection just broke....).

I would agree that boosting the movement speed even slightly could help on this as it would allow a much quicker assault on damaged targets before they have a chance to fully regen. Maybe a slight boost to all handheld weapons as well.

Meh.... playing CS on PS3 just doesnt feel right to me. In fact, Since CS has gone to source, it never felt right again to me.

C.S isn't dead in fact you will see all the competitive ps3 community playing C.S:GO on release, so you will be left with scrubs like BHD and PRO circle jerking each other on this game.

@Shankster
You're pathetic.