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GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL
66
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:01:00 -
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I will be simple and straightforward.
- Abuse of vehicles getting worse. - Lag worse - Plateaus on maps like no place there for protection. - The vehicles have access to all places with the exception biomass. - The vehicles can hit you anywhere, and they also come in anywhere. - The focus of the games is more Vehicles x Vehicles and not Body x Body . - It is impossible to play in matches that have Erix Dropship and Surya tank.
You have 2 choices when it happens.
1 - Die trying. 2 - Quit the game.
It is my frustration! |
Omnipotent lilmamaj
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
205
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:02:00 -
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You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. |
Arceus Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
119
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:04:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Oh hey! You must be one of the people sending me hate mail every so often! Nice to meet you! |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:04:00 -
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Nope. |
Omnipotent lilmamaj
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
205
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:07:00 -
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Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Oh hey! You must be one of the people sending me hate mail every so often! Nice to meet you! Scrubs like you don't deserve hate mail. Only good players |
Arceus Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
119
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:07:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Oh hey! You must be one of the people sending me hate mail every so often! Nice to meet you! Scrubs like you don't deserve hate mail. Only good players Say that to my inbox! Oh wait ... You did.
PS - I make people angry enough to send it to my PSN mailbox. |
Arceus Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
119
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:09:00 -
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Btw Gagah, +1
I think of you as a rival player and respect you highly on the field. |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:11:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable.
Scrubs with tanks, you might be slow because scrubs only use the militia and those are easy to take out. Everyone else uses tanks that cost 100k isk plus and a lot more sp. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:11:00 -
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There's a new build expected sometime this month. Things will change. See how it goes. |
Omnipotent lilmamaj
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
205
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:13:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Scrubs with tanks, you might be slow because scrubs only use the militia and those are easy to take out. Everyone else uses tanks that cost 100k isk plus and a lot more sp. Scrubs use tanks that cost 100k isk plus |
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GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL
66
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:15:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:There's a new build expected sometime this month. Things will change. See how it goes.
I twist a lot to improve. |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:15:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Scrubs with tanks, you might be slow because scrubs only use the militia and those are easy to take out. Everyone else uses tanks that cost 100k isk plus and a lot more sp. Scrubs use tanks that cost 100k isk plus
Bullsh*t don't get mad cause you can't use a tank |
Jonquill Caronite
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:18:00 -
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Funny you should all say that... The trend I've noticed is quite the opposite, I've seen a number of Sagaris and Surya pilots who were good put into a situation of run and gunning all game with no oppertunity to aid in capture of points... Sure they rack up a lot of kills and are incredibly annoying, but their presence doesn't determine the winner of the games...
The game winners are determined by which team moves together the most, in an equal ratio with the most Creodon rifles and Proto Forge Guns.... A good balance of those three and the amount of Tanks and Dropships doesn't play an effect on the game... I've seen this a lot.
So it really depends on what you mean... If you mean winning the match, tank drivers are far less important then other fits... If you mean having the highest kill to death ratio? Then yeah tank drivers are ****. If you mean cost to benefit analysis? It depends on the tank, the ones that actually aid their team in capturing points go in the negative since they usually die every other game or so, the ones who never stop moving and **** everyone but don't aid in capturing at all, never die because they never get pinned, and thus they make insane amounts of bank and have 10-20 million ISK and 100 more fits just like the one they're currently driving...
Frankly are they balanced? Right now no, because right now the battles don't matter, and the points and K/D ratio are all that we can measure, so these tanks are the undisputed champs unless you count matches won, which no one seems to do... However, when there's assets on the line, I think you'll find this isn't the case at all...
We'll see. |
GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL
66
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:22:00 -
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Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Btw Gagah, +1
I think of you as a rival player and respect you highly on the field.
Thank you friend. Sorry my bad english, I use google translator to communicate. |
lDocHollidayl
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
171
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:23:00 -
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Unique. I played a game with you and %50 of your kills seemed to be RE. What will you do next build. Coming from an AV man tanks are only rough when your alone. When there are no mics and everyone on your team has never heard of a forge gun or swarm launcher. As soon as you got a mate tanks fear you. But with no groups...alas it happens.
I also have ran tanks a hair and they are far from too powerful...but that might mean I am not very good.
I will join you as the game is no longer enjoyable...just bored unless I play with friends. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:23:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Scrubs with tanks, you might be slow because scrubs only use the militia and those are easy to take out. Everyone else uses tanks that cost 100k isk plus and a lot more sp. Scrubs use tanks that cost 100k isk plus Bullsh*t don't get mad cause you can't use a tank Who wants to sit in a tank and grind for 1000s of hours?
Seriously? Does that really sound like fun? I think I would put a bullet in my brain after about 400 hours. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:24:00 -
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This is gonna be good. |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:26:00 -
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Jonquill Caronite wrote:Funny you should all say that... The trend I've noticed is quite the opposite, I've seen a number of Sagaris and Surya pilots who were good put into a situation of run and gunning all game with no oppertunity to aid in capture of points... Sure they rack up a lot of kills and are incredibly annoying, but their presence doesn't determine the winner of the games...
The game winners are determined by which team moves together the most, in an equal ration with the most Creodon rifles and Proto Forge Guns.... A good balance of those three and the amount of Tanks and Dropships doesn't play an effect on the game... I've seen this a lot.
So it really depends one what you mean... If you mean winning the match, tank drivers are far less important then other fits... If you mean having the highest kill to death ratio? Then yeah tank drivers are ****. If you mean cost to benefit analysis? It depends on the tank, the ones that actually aid their team in capturing points go in the negative since they usually die every other game or so, the ones who never stop moving and **** everyone but don't aid in capturing at all, never die because they never get pinned, and thus they make insane amounts of bank and have 10-20 million ISK and 100 more fits just like the one they're currently driving...
Frankly are they balanced? Right now no, because right now the battles don't matter, and the points and K/D ratio are all that we can measure, so these tanks are the undisputed champs unless you count matches won, which no one seems to do... However, when there's assets on the line, I think you'll find this isn't the case at all...
We'll see.
Most of the tank drivers I've gunned for today have been ferrying troops to objectives and defending them so even though tanks go for kd they aren't the only ones |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:27:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Scrubs with tanks, you might be slow because scrubs only use the militia and those are easy to take out. Everyone else uses tanks that cost 100k isk plus and a lot more sp. Scrubs use tanks that cost 100k isk plus Bullsh*t don't get mad cause you can't use a tank Who wants to sit in a tank and grind for 1000s of hours? Seriously? Does that really sound like fun? I think I would put a bullet in my brain after about 400 hours.
To take out scrubs with the creo that think they're good |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:29:00 -
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GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL wrote:I will be simple and straightforward.
- Abuse of vehicles getting worse. - Lag worse - Plateaus on maps like no place there for protection. - The vehicles have access to all places with the exception biomass. - The vehicles can hit you anywhere, and they also come in anywhere. - The focus of the games is more Vehicles x Vehicles and not Body x Body . - It is impossible to play in matches that have Erix Dropship and Surya tank.
You have 2 choices when it happens.
1 - Die trying. 2 - Quit the game.
It is my frustration! You abuse RE's which are a legitametely OP weapon and are getting nerfed for that , is that any less harmful then this so called vehicle "abuse"? |
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HowDidThatTaste
461
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:30:00 -
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GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL wrote:I will be simple and straightforward.
- Abuse of vehicles getting worse. - Lag worse - Plateaus on maps like no place there for protection. - The vehicles have access to all places with the exception biomass. - The vehicles can hit you anywhere, and they also come in anywhere. - The focus of the games is more Vehicles x Vehicles and not Body x Body . - It is impossible to play in matches that have Erix Dropship and Surya tank.
You have 2 choices when it happens.
1 - Die trying. 2 - Quit the game.
It is my frustration!
From one of the biggest RE abusers I have ever come across. Just quit the game and move on. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:34:00 -
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So, I'm assuming you're running around proto assault right? Cause I have no problems with any Eryx or Surya with my Forge Gun. |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:36:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL wrote:I will be simple and straightforward.
- Abuse of vehicles getting worse. - Lag worse - Plateaus on maps like no place there for protection. - The vehicles have access to all places with the exception biomass. - The vehicles can hit you anywhere, and they also come in anywhere. - The focus of the games is more Vehicles x Vehicles and not Body x Body . - It is impossible to play in matches that have Erix Dropship and Surya tank.
You have 2 choices when it happens.
1 - Die trying. 2 - Quit the game.
It is my frustration! From one of the biggest RE abusers I have ever come across. Just quit the game and move on.
He should realize that he has a third option:
Switch to an av fit |
Garma QUDA
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
468
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:37:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:So, I'm assuming you're running around proto assault right? Cause I have no problems with any Eryx or Surya with my Forge Gun. Said the Forge Gunner |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:40:00 -
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Garma QUDA wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:So, I'm assuming you're running around proto assault right? Cause I have no problems with any Eryx or Surya with my Forge Gun. Said the Forge Gunner
If you can't fight vehicles, you're f*cked. People are lucky all weapons damage vehicles |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:43:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Oh hey! You must be one of the people sending me hate mail every so often! Nice to meet you! Scrubs like you don't deserve hate mail. Only good players Wow. Yet another person who's butthurt over an MMOFPS having vehicles. You do realize how hopelessly stupid a game like this would be without a heavy vehicle element? Plateau -is- more open, but Craterlake Communication and Biomass had two points that were accessable only to infantry, and one that could be reached by dropship from overhead, but couldn't be reached by ground vehicles. You're going to see all kinds of environments, some which cater to vehicles, and some that do not. |
STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:45:00 -
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No offense to vehicle specialists, but hopefully next patch changes the vehicle dynamics. I sometimes feel that I'm the only person that believes gun combat should be more important that vehicle combat in an FPS. With higher vehicle prices and new AV gear I hope that vehicle combat becomes secondary to gun combat, but we'll see. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:48:00 -
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STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:No offense to vehicle specialists, but hopefully next patch changes the vehicle dynamics. I sometimes feel that I'm the only person that believes gun combat should be more important that vehicle combat in an FPS. With higher vehicle prices and new AV gear I hope that vehicle combat becomes secondary to gun combat, but we'll see. The two should really go hand in hand. You just can't have a gameplay environment of the sizes we're going to be looking at, and the player counts they'll involve without a robust vehicle mechanic to go alongside the infantry gameplay. |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:49:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Oh hey! You must be one of the people sending me hate mail every so often! Nice to meet you! Scrubs like you don't deserve hate mail. Only good players Wow. Yet another person who's butthurt over an MMOFPS having vehicles. You do realize how hopelessly stupid a game like this would be without a heavy vehicle element? Plateau -is- more open, but Craterlake Communication and Biomass had two points that were accessable only to infantry, and one that could be reached by dropship from overhead, but couldn't be reached by ground vehicles. You're going to see all kinds of environments, some which cater to vehicles, and some that do not.
+1 but i think most maps will cater to vehicles because number of players in one match could increase and along with it map size |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.06 05:05:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:
+1 but i think most maps will cater to vehicles because number of players in one match could increase and along with it map size
There will be maps with areas that will be inaccessible to vehicles, and there will be maps with areas that will be like a red zone for infantry. |
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Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.06 05:05:00 -
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Garma QUDA wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:So, I'm assuming you're running around proto assault right? Cause I have no problems with any Eryx or Surya with my Forge Gun. Said the Forge Gunner And, the point of your reply is..? |
Raynor Ragna
266
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Posted - 2012.08.06 05:42:00 -
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Change your tactics. You're clearly playing wrong. I've pretty much maxed my tank skills but when the opposing team is smart, they'll make me useless in battle. |
Grimm Tripp
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2012.08.06 05:43:00 -
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I laugh when a tank is sitting at a hack point but the driver is too afraid to get out so he rolls away.. |
William HBonney
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
318
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Posted - 2012.08.06 05:51:00 -
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He is right that the game is getting boring...which is not a result of any type of abuse really. The game is getting boring because once you have ground out your fitting that you want and have invested in the grind of the game...you find the end result to be lack luster and frankly, a bit boring. Without groups there is very little team work and very little competition when a good group is randomly thrown together. The bad hit detection and not up to par FPS game mechanics make the end result, boring.
It was fun when I was grinding to get the sweet gear...but once you are there it becomes like....eh' I know it is only a beta and there will be this super persistent awesome sandbox world that we will be in, but oh' if the game itself is sub par in terms of it's FPS aspects do not expect many people to join your sandbox....no matter how big it is. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.08.06 07:20:00 -
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This problems will be solved SOONGäó. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.08.06 07:29:00 -
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GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL wrote:Yadda yada yadda...and more yadda.
There are plenty of ways to kill tanks. Yes, they can go anywhere, but just a little teamwork, and you'll kill just about any tank in short order. A few (very few) tank drivers are really good, and have some awesome fittings that they manage to avoid being killed most of the time. But that takes skills. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.08.06 07:32:00 -
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Grimm Tripp wrote:I laugh when a tank is sitting at a hack point but the driver is too afraid to get out so he rolls away..
And I rage when I sit there, covering the infantry's asses, and no one uses the opportunity to take the objective. A parked tank is soon a dead tank, and we pay a lot for them, too much to allow scrubs like you to just get up to it and kill it with your RE's. Of course you are probably also of those scrubs who "laugh when tanks just sit there, deserving to die because they don't move"...
twit! |
Ima Leet
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.08.06 07:34:00 -
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yea, it seems dropships are more OP than tanks IMO. i'm seeing more and more of them being used and more and more of them are not going down to proto swarms... wtf.. idk
the lag is atrocious. why do i keep getting kicked out of battles. everyone freezes and then about a minute later the game just kicks everyone... wow wtf |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.08.06 07:36:00 -
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The game hasn't changed since the E3 build. It's the players that have adapted.
Don't like that? Then don't play it and wait for the new build.
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Ima Leet
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.08.06 07:36:00 -
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William HBonney wrote: The bad hit detection and not up to par FPS game mechanics make the end result, boring.
It was fun when I was grinding to get the sweet gear...but once you are there it becomes like....eh' I know it is only a beta and there will be this super persistent awesome sandbox world that we will be in, but oh' if the game itself is sub par in terms of it's FPS aspects do not expect many people to join your sandbox....no matter how big it is.
QFT. if the game cannot function as a game... it will not last and no one will play it |
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Dankpancakes II
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.08.06 08:20:00 -
[41] - Quote
Balance aside, Why are you complaining about a game that's in its beta stage??? You bought a 20$ back to TEST the game.
YOU ARE TESTING
why are you getting this angry?? stop. It's a Beta , cool your jets little man
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.06 08:31:00 -
[42] - Quote
This is why. It's a beta. He wanted to know if everyone else is fed up with vehicles. I'm bored of vehicles. Takes very little skill. Dropships and HAV are both splash damage killers. That means relatively no skill involved. You pay ISK because you are terrible at FPS games :) or you get free militia ones this build. |
GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL
66
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Posted - 2012.08.06 12:51:00 -
[43] - Quote
Rhadiem wrote:The game hasn't changed since the E3 build. It's the players that have adapted.
Don't like that? Then don't play it and wait for the new build.
If the player's not to like something in the beta stopped playing to wait for the next build would not have any online player. |
Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
205
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Posted - 2012.08.06 12:58:00 -
[44] - Quote
Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Lol tanks ? I don't know how many vehicles I've blown up with my ar |
Iceyburnz
316
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Posted - 2012.08.06 12:58:00 -
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GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL wrote:I will be simple and straightforward.
- Abuse of vehicles getting worse. - Lag worse - Plateaus on maps like no place there for protection. - The vehicles have access to all places with the exception biomass. - The vehicles can hit you anywhere, and they also come in anywhere. - The focus of the games is more Vehicles x Vehicles and not Body x Body . - It is impossible to play in matches that have Erix Dropship and Surya tank.
You have 2 choices when it happens.
1 - Die trying. 2 - Quit the game.
It is my frustration!
It was a map created to have vehicles tested why do you think they handed out crap loads of exp. So people could run in vehicles and test them. CCP don't do anything by accident. The towers, the spaces, the lack of buildings was all deliberate.
Your testing, its not the final game. Just wait for the next build and refocus on real life.
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Southern1Cross
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.08.06 13:11:00 -
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CRY SOME MORE LITTLE BABEYS , ,lol but seriously? cmon guys tanks are supposed to be scary THERE TANKS FOR FK SAKES! you do realise that you can retreat and avoid the tanks? theres this awesome thing on your controller looks like a lil stick you use it to MOVE! ive put heaps of time into making a badass tank , going against unorganised lonewolfs i wreck there **** but as soon as a team works together against me im a sitting duck |
Oswald Banecroft II
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.08.06 13:26:00 -
[47] - Quote
The only time vehicles are a problem is when the people on your side decide against using them while the people on the other team think that doing the same would be stupid. Also, I think the skirmish map being small has more to do with peoples anguish over the tanks and dropships than the vehicles themselves. Because of the size of the map you can't turn around without bumping into a tank army, bigger map means more ways to get in behind them and take them out. Mines would certainly be helpful as well. |
GamerEvan77
One-Armed Bandits Orbital Rights
8
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Posted - 2012.08.06 15:13:00 -
[48] - Quote
vermacht Doe wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:You aren't alone. This game takes no skill because of these scrubs with tanks. Its certainly unplayable. Scrubs with tanks, you might be slow because scrubs only use the militia and those are easy to take out. Everyone else uses tanks that cost 100k isk plus and a lot more sp. Scrubs use tanks that cost 100k isk plus Bullsh*t don't get mad cause you can't use a tank
Most people that run in tanks get owned as soon as they get out of it. So no, it's not BS. It's real, and it's a problem that will probably be addressed in the next build if CCP hears the requests of people who want a balanced game where vehicles and infantry exist simultaneously and equally. |
Citizen Khaos
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.08.06 15:36:00 -
[49] - Quote
The game gets more fun during beta events IMO because you get a lot of noobs who don't know these exploits, and that breaks up some of the synergy for those who do and who use them. I think a lot of this will be resolved once we can group, and those with mics will be able to really work as a team. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2012.08.06 16:49:00 -
[50] - Quote
Its all about how you train your character and who is on your team. If you not trained to destroyed vehicles or have a team mate who is trained to destroy vehicles. Then perpare to be destroyed lol |
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Garma QUDA
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
468
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Posted - 2012.08.06 16:57:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Garma QUDA wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:So, I'm assuming you're running around proto assault right? Cause I have no problems with any Eryx or Surya with my Forge Gun. Said the Forge Gunner And, the point of your reply is..?
Right back at you fool |
Mitchman 514
36
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:29:00 -
[52] - Quote
Tony Calif wrote:This is why. It's a beta. He wanted to know if everyone else is fed up with vehicles. I'm bored of vehicles. Takes very little skill. Dropships and HAV are both splash damage killers. That means relatively no skill involved. You pay ISK because you are terrible at FPS games :) or you get free militia ones this build.
It does give a certain satisfaction to kill multiple marauders in a single match, though.
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Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:51:00 -
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To me, It sounds like the complaints are about stuff that should be fixed by release. The one exception being nerf vehicles, I disagree with this one.(I have killed multiple marauders in single game with standard scout and assault suits with different weapons) Killing vehicles takes teamwork, vehicle driver not knowing what they are doing, lots of practice to solo, or vehicle was militia therefore made of paper. I love seeing three hav bumping into things, sure sign of multiple vehicle kills and almost 1/2 million isk at end of match.
The comment about game getting boring, this should be fixed in beta. Not an excuse, they need feedback from testers to fix this. The lack of maps, grouping, player corps, sandbox elements, and glitched comms seem to be main culprits. All should be fixed by release. If not fixed game may fail, but being connected to EvE may linger half dead for a while till fixed then start growing long after release. So, two chances instead of most playstation games one, far better to get it right with first live then second.
Only the skilled players can go everywhere, many spots on map are very hard to drive thrue with out getting stuck and killed. With time and many dead tanks players develop skill. Not all the weapons work well as splash, the rail is a pain to aim, the blasters don't have any useful splash, the rockets are splash. Everyone seems to be favoring rockets, so the problem may be rockets not the vehicles.
I have killed sagaris and surya with av grenades and smg, they are not invincible. The dropships out running the swarms is annoying, but they can still be hit by firing the swarms to lead them. They also are not hitting anything while evading, the weapons aim is glitched to fire in ways that make no sense when going that speed. The swarms suppress them at least.
The rumored map size of 5km is the same as entire fallout 3 rpg map, with out vehicles it would take 10-20min to get to objectives. We may have big maps like that with 2 or 3 biomass type complexes containing the objectives in the future. This type of map would be impossible too win with out both infantry and vehicles. There may also be tight maps that are vehicle death traps, and wide open tank duel maps.
One map with one mode(ambush does't count) and most of the vehicle, dropsuits, and gear yet to be added is not enough to tell if vehicles in general need nerfed.
The tower camping dropship rocket spam should be fixed, It is not a glitch to get up there. It is boring for the spammer, and very annoying to be killed by. They can be killed by hav rails, other dropships, forge gun, and mass driver (swarm hits tower most of time), so there are counters. Still seems like a tactic that needs toning down. Maybe just alter the flight path of swarms so they arc up and over a little more and come from above, they already do this vs hav(annoying vs hav since they bang into things above them). |
Arceus Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
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Posted - 2012.08.07 02:26:00 -
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Do not fret at this I place Boom flowers to bloom RE's give you wings
I hope you like my poem. I wrote it just for you! |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2012.08.07 03:53:00 -
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Gagah is a remote explosive user crying about tanks? Lol seriously. Hypocrite. You should be down with abusing a tactic.
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Arceus Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
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Posted - 2012.08.07 04:01:00 -
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NERFGäó <==== And we all wonder why the game is becoming unplayable ... |
Mmkk333
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.07 04:09:00 -
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What was the topic again? Seems like the farther I got into the comments, the more it seemed like people were simply whining rather than petting in useful information they had from their experiences in game... Having said that, I have experienced plenty of bugs, glitches, and troll methods, but I would hardly say the game is unplayable. There are just a few things that need to be ironed out pre-launch. Saying this is unplayable is like saying CoD is unplayable just because you got trolled a few times, which seems exactly what happened to you, except in Dust, not in CoD. |
William HBonney
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.07 04:09:00 -
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Tanks are strong but not OP, if they change the flight pattern/speed of swarms it would be fine....making them 1.2 mil will make it much more costly to field them esp if eve accounts can't front money. I don't complain too much about swarms because the devs said this build was just a quick fix so hopefully their tracking systems/speed get a little buff, and AV gernades becoming stickies to tanks/vehicles will also improve the AV arsenal. |
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